I saved part of the message. Don't know if this will help and don't recall any answer to his question. Pamela Bane Baneshe42@aol.com [ILMACOUP-L] Naturalization Loose Papers I just noticed that my gg grandfather Robert WATT's name is found among those listed in naturalization loose papers at: ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/il/misc/naturalization/natural.txt I am not clear how to pursue this. The instructions say that IRAD will not search through these loose papers unless I have a date. The date of naturalization is one of the things I am looking for:-( Kind of a catch 22 here. Does anyone have any suggestions?