Today at the Macoupin Co. Courthouse I looked for any deed to the Virden Church of the Brethren, incorporated in 1912, which apparently no one has ever had. I looked under "B" for Brethren and Baptist, "C" for Church, "V" for Virden, and thought about "G" for German Baptist Church. I noted several deeds between David C. Vaniman and Trustees of the Church of the Brethren and Trustees of the German Baptist Church for other lands. Surely, I thought, such deeds would not be listed under "T" for Trustees! Wrong!!! I found not only the deeds for the Virden Brethren church property in Grantee Book 21, but noted many others for Trustees of Hettick Church, I.O.O.F., Stults Burying Ground (Palmyra), churches in Carlinville, Modesto, and elsewhere, school districts, banks, companies, and many other entities. Thus, at least in this 1900-1920 period, it might be wise to look under "T" for trustees of those groups. Linda Kmiecik
Pamela Goess <pgoess@optonline.net> wrote 22 Apr 2009: "I have 2 US Census records where David Andrews is listed in the Almshouse in Carlinville as an inmate. the 1920 and 1930. He was listed as being 64 years old in the 1920 and around 77 in the 1930 one." =================== Can anyone tell us if the Almshouse was the Old Folks Home which was on Rt #4 north of Carlinville where the county road building is now? I am slow Pamela but I USUALLY get there. Gloria
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Robert, I am sending your query to the Macoupin County genealogy maillist. I remember we have had Reader queries but not sure we have a current contact. If we do, would that person contact Robert at <rhedges9@yahoo.com> Thanks. Gloria ------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 11:34:49 -0700 (PDT) From: rhedges9@yahoo.com Subject: seek Reeder of Carlinville IL genealogy contact person Lewis Reeder (with 1835 attached as a date) seems to have descendants in Parke Co IN and Carlinville, IL . I seek a family member who is knowledgeable. They have a Y chromosome match w/ my Reader family. The phone on Reeder Lane, Carlinville, is disconnected. Thanks, Robert Hedges http://www.ecsd.com/~rhhedgz1/ rhedges9@yahoo.com
Like this?: William Henry Schultz b. Mt Olive, Macoupin Co., IL 2 May 1893 d. Lakeland Village, Riverside, CA 18 Jan 1951 Draft Card: 5 June 1917 Montgomery Co., IL Served: U.S. Army Co. K 310th Infantry 78th division. Was overseas., discharged 1919 ? Sharon Buethner Grand niece On 21 May 2009 at 12:18, G Frazier wrote: You would probably have to qualify that as "born, lived, and/or died" in the city or county, say, of Wayne's choosing. Because a soldier died in the county probably because a child is taking care of the veteran or living in a veterans home should not leave him/her out of the list. Gloria At 12:56 AM 5/21/2009, you wrote: >Sometimes it is hard to know which county to put them. One of my Gr >Uncles was born in Macoupin, but after his Mom died in 1911, he was living >in Montgomery County when he enlisted for WW1. > >Another, born in Macoupin, but was living in Christian County when his son >enlisted in WWII, Robert died in Luzon, Philippines. > >Sharon > > > >On 21 May 2009 at 0:27, G Frazier wrote: > >The list of current veterans is a huge undertaking. > >I don't know what percentage of this list are veterans but I know a few >right off. Kathie and myself served in the Navy, no war, but in the Vietnam >era. > >What I do do for current veterans is just to go up to a service person in >uniform and thank them. I am visiting NY City and the fleet came in today >so I had the chance to thank several military personnel. Makes me proud to >see the service personnel. > >And, Wayne, don't feel bad about not being able to cover all current >veterans. It is just a huge undertaking. So, if you construct a list of >military personnel from your area or any area in Macoupin I would make an >early cutoff date, like 1920. > >We as veterans have several lists where we enter our names such as >places >where we served. > >I am guilty of getting away from doing a Vets page on Veterans Day but >when >I did one, there were many Macoupin people, dead and alive, on it. I will >try to remember to revive the page on Veterans Day if someone will help >remind me. There are many Macoupin vets on that list. > >So, Wayne, I wouldn't quit on it. You have a good idea. You just need to >limit the years, I think. Start the page and put a note on it for any >veteran someone knows of having served during certain years from a >certain >place, to contact you and you can add them. Let it set; don't fret over it >and over a few yrs, you will have quite a list. > >Just my opinion. > >Gloria > >At 06:31 AM 5/20/2009, you wrote: > >Thanks Debbi for the input. > >The lack of response has shown that there is not any interest. > >Without an interest, there is no reason to do anything. > >It isn't surprising though, judging by the very low > >attendance at the Veteran's Day and Memorial Day > >ceremonies. > >9-11 should have been a wake-up call. > >Respect for the military personnel that have served > >our country real well in the past are being shown > >a lack of respect in the modern day world. > >My little part in trying to honor all veterans > >is not appreciated by many, so I suppose it > >is best to stop putting anything on-line at this point > >in time. > >It may be time for me to hang it up. > >Wayne > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Debbi Geer" <dgirth@yahoo.com> > >To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:02 AM > >Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] recent veterans > > > > > >Wayne > > > >You have to draw the line somewhere. If you start adding the more recent > >overseas engagements, then you'd have to include those who were only > >assigned to stateside military bases. If you'll talking about making a list > >of individuals who served in the military (war and/or peace), then I say you > >should only put the names on the "military memory lists" of those who have > >passed away. As long as they are living don't mention them. Along the way, > >someone will be missed causing feelings to be hurt and I know it will not be > >intended to do such. I would only include the following - > > > >1) those who graduated from the Gillespie High School or a high school no > >longer in existence (such as Benld HS) in the Gillespie School District area > >regardless of burial location > >2) those who moved into the Gillespie School District later in life being > >residents at the time of their deaths regardless of burial location > >3) those who are buried in a cemetery in the Gillespie School District > > > >If you start including the entire county, then someone will be missed and > >the next thing you'll hear is an unkind word by someone. Perhaps those >who > >live outside the Gillespie School District can be given to Gloria for the > >Macoupin Co website. > > > >Debbi > > > > > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP- >request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Born, lived and or died, I mentioned. Sometimes in early parts of researching lines, you know the veteran/ancestral grparent lived all of his life in one place but your research turns up nothing. If the veteran should be listed in another place and a global search will turn the veteran up in another city/county because of a health situation then they are buried in that other city/county probably for financial reason....a win in research/less time. Gloria At 12:56 AM 5/21/2009, you wrote: >Sometimes it is hard to know which county to put them. One of my Gr >Uncles was born in Macoupin, but after his Mom died in 1911, he was living >in Montgomery County when he enlisted for WW1. > >Another, born in Macoupin, but was living in Christian County when his son >enlisted in WWII, Robert died in Luzon, Philippines. > >Sharon > > > >On 21 May 2009 at 0:27, G Frazier wrote: > >The list of current veterans is a huge undertaking. > >I don't know what percentage of this list are veterans but I know a few >right off. Kathie and myself served in the Navy, no war, but in the Vietnam >era. > >What I do do for current veterans is just to go up to a service person in >uniform and thank them. I am visiting NY City and the fleet came in today >so I had the chance to thank several military personnel. Makes me proud to >see the service personnel. > >And, Wayne, don't feel bad about not being able to cover all current >veterans. It is just a huge undertaking. So, if you construct a list of >military personnel from your area or any area in Macoupin I would make an >early cutoff date, like 1920. > >We as veterans have several lists where we enter our names such as >places >where we served. > >I am guilty of getting away from doing a Vets page on Veterans Day but >when >I did one, there were many Macoupin people, dead and alive, on it. I will >try to remember to revive the page on Veterans Day if someone will help >remind me. There are many Macoupin vets on that list. > >So, Wayne, I wouldn't quit on it. You have a good idea. You just need to >limit the years, I think. Start the page and put a note on it for any >veteran someone knows of having served during certain years from a >certain >place, to contact you and you can add them. Let it set; don't fret over it >and over a few yrs, you will have quite a list. > >Just my opinion. > >Gloria > >At 06:31 AM 5/20/2009, you wrote: > >Thanks Debbi for the input. > >The lack of response has shown that there is not any interest. > >Without an interest, there is no reason to do anything. > >It isn't surprising though, judging by the very low > >attendance at the Veteran's Day and Memorial Day > >ceremonies. > >9-11 should have been a wake-up call. > >Respect for the military personnel that have served > >our country real well in the past are being shown > >a lack of respect in the modern day world. > >My little part in trying to honor all veterans > >is not appreciated by many, so I suppose it > >is best to stop putting anything on-line at this point > >in time. > >It may be time for me to hang it up. > >Wayne > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Debbi Geer" <dgirth@yahoo.com> > >To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:02 AM > >Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] recent veterans > > > > > >Wayne > > > >You have to draw the line somewhere. If you start adding the more recent > >overseas engagements, then you'd have to include those who were only > >assigned to stateside military bases. If you'll talking about making a list > >of individuals who served in the military (war and/or peace), then I say you > >should only put the names on the "military memory lists" of those who have > >passed away. As long as they are living don't mention them. Along the way, > >someone will be missed causing feelings to be hurt and I know it will not be > >intended to do such. I would only include the following - > > > >1) those who graduated from the Gillespie High School or a high school no > >longer in existence (such as Benld HS) in the Gillespie School District area > >regardless of burial location > >2) those who moved into the Gillespie School District later in life being > >residents at the time of their deaths regardless of burial location > >3) those who are buried in a cemetery in the Gillespie School District > > > >If you start including the entire county, then someone will be missed and > >the next thing you'll hear is an unkind word by someone. Perhaps those >who > >live outside the Gillespie School District can be given to Gloria for the > >Macoupin Co website. > > > >Debbi > > > > > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP- >request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message
You would probably have to qualify that as "born, lived, and/or died" in the city or county, say, of Wayne's choosing. Because a soldier died in the county probably because a child is taking care of the veteran or living in a veterans home should not leave him/her out of the list. Gloria At 12:56 AM 5/21/2009, you wrote: >Sometimes it is hard to know which county to put them. One of my Gr >Uncles was born in Macoupin, but after his Mom died in 1911, he was living >in Montgomery County when he enlisted for WW1. > >Another, born in Macoupin, but was living in Christian County when his son >enlisted in WWII, Robert died in Luzon, Philippines. > >Sharon > > > >On 21 May 2009 at 0:27, G Frazier wrote: > >The list of current veterans is a huge undertaking. > >I don't know what percentage of this list are veterans but I know a few >right off. Kathie and myself served in the Navy, no war, but in the Vietnam >era. > >What I do do for current veterans is just to go up to a service person in >uniform and thank them. I am visiting NY City and the fleet came in today >so I had the chance to thank several military personnel. Makes me proud to >see the service personnel. > >And, Wayne, don't feel bad about not being able to cover all current >veterans. It is just a huge undertaking. So, if you construct a list of >military personnel from your area or any area in Macoupin I would make an >early cutoff date, like 1920. > >We as veterans have several lists where we enter our names such as >places >where we served. > >I am guilty of getting away from doing a Vets page on Veterans Day but >when >I did one, there were many Macoupin people, dead and alive, on it. I will >try to remember to revive the page on Veterans Day if someone will help >remind me. There are many Macoupin vets on that list. > >So, Wayne, I wouldn't quit on it. You have a good idea. You just need to >limit the years, I think. Start the page and put a note on it for any >veteran someone knows of having served during certain years from a >certain >place, to contact you and you can add them. Let it set; don't fret over it >and over a few yrs, you will have quite a list. > >Just my opinion. > >Gloria > >At 06:31 AM 5/20/2009, you wrote: > >Thanks Debbi for the input. > >The lack of response has shown that there is not any interest. > >Without an interest, there is no reason to do anything. > >It isn't surprising though, judging by the very low > >attendance at the Veteran's Day and Memorial Day > >ceremonies. > >9-11 should have been a wake-up call. > >Respect for the military personnel that have served > >our country real well in the past are being shown > >a lack of respect in the modern day world. > >My little part in trying to honor all veterans > >is not appreciated by many, so I suppose it > >is best to stop putting anything on-line at this point > >in time. > >It may be time for me to hang it up. > >Wayne > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Debbi Geer" <dgirth@yahoo.com> > >To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:02 AM > >Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] recent veterans > > > > > >Wayne > > > >You have to draw the line somewhere. If you start adding the more recent > >overseas engagements, then you'd have to include those who were only > >assigned to stateside military bases. If you'll talking about making a list > >of individuals who served in the military (war and/or peace), then I say you > >should only put the names on the "military memory lists" of those who have > >passed away. As long as they are living don't mention them. Along the way, > >someone will be missed causing feelings to be hurt and I know it will not be > >intended to do such. I would only include the following - > > > >1) those who graduated from the Gillespie High School or a high school no > >longer in existence (such as Benld HS) in the Gillespie School District area > >regardless of burial location > >2) those who moved into the Gillespie School District later in life being > >residents at the time of their deaths regardless of burial location > >3) those who are buried in a cemetery in the Gillespie School District > > > >If you start including the entire county, then someone will be missed and > >the next thing you'll hear is an unkind word by someone. Perhaps those >who > >live outside the Gillespie School District can be given to Gloria for the > >Macoupin Co website. > > > >Debbi > > > > > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP- >request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The list of current veterans is a huge undertaking. I don't know what percentage of this list are veterans but I know a few right off. Kathie and myself served in the Navy, no war, but in the Vietnam era. What I do do for current veterans is just to go up to a service person in uniform and thank them. I am visiting NY City and the fleet came in today so I had the chance to thank several military personnel. Makes me proud to see the service personnel. And, Wayne, don't feel bad about not being able to cover all current veterans. It is just a huge undertaking. So, if you construct a list of military personnel from your area or any area in Macoupin I would make an early cutoff date, like 1920. We as veterans have several lists where we enter our names such as places where we served. I am guilty of getting away from doing a Vets page on Veterans Day but when I did one, there were many Macoupin people, dead and alive, on it. I will try to remember to revive the page on Veterans Day if someone will help remind me. There are many Macoupin vets on that list. So, Wayne, I wouldn't quit on it. You have a good idea. You just need to limit the years, I think. Start the page and put a note on it for any veteran someone knows of having served during certain years from a certain place, to contact you and you can add them. Let it set; don't fret over it and over a few yrs, you will have quite a list. Just my opinion. Gloria At 06:31 AM 5/20/2009, you wrote: >Thanks Debbi for the input. >The lack of response has shown that there is not any interest. >Without an interest, there is no reason to do anything. >It isn't surprising though, judging by the very low >attendance at the Veteran's Day and Memorial Day >ceremonies. >9-11 should have been a wake-up call. >Respect for the military personnel that have served >our country real well in the past are being shown >a lack of respect in the modern day world. >My little part in trying to honor all veterans >is not appreciated by many, so I suppose it >is best to stop putting anything on-line at this point >in time. >It may be time for me to hang it up. >Wayne > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Debbi Geer" <dgirth@yahoo.com> >To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:02 AM >Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] recent veterans > > >Wayne > >You have to draw the line somewhere. If you start adding the more recent >overseas engagements, then you'd have to include those who were only >assigned to stateside military bases. If you'll talking about making a list >of individuals who served in the military (war and/or peace), then I say you >should only put the names on the "military memory lists" of those who have >passed away. As long as they are living don't mention them. Along the way, >someone will be missed causing feelings to be hurt and I know it will not be >intended to do such. I would only include the following - > >1) those who graduated from the Gillespie High School or a high school no >longer in existence (such as Benld HS) in the Gillespie School District area >regardless of burial location >2) those who moved into the Gillespie School District later in life being >residents at the time of their deaths regardless of burial location >3) those who are buried in a cemetery in the Gillespie School District > >If you start including the entire county, then someone will be missed and >the next thing you'll hear is an unkind word by someone. Perhaps those who >live outside the Gillespie School District can be given to Gloria for the >Macoupin Co website. > >Debbi > > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Sometimes it is hard to know which county to put them. One of my Gr Uncles was born in Macoupin, but after his Mom died in 1911, he was living in Montgomery County when he enlisted for WW1. Another, born in Macoupin, but was living in Christian County when his son enlisted in WWII, Robert died in Luzon, Philippines. Sharon On 21 May 2009 at 0:27, G Frazier wrote: The list of current veterans is a huge undertaking. I don't know what percentage of this list are veterans but I know a few right off. Kathie and myself served in the Navy, no war, but in the Vietnam era. What I do do for current veterans is just to go up to a service person in uniform and thank them. I am visiting NY City and the fleet came in today so I had the chance to thank several military personnel. Makes me proud to see the service personnel. And, Wayne, don't feel bad about not being able to cover all current veterans. It is just a huge undertaking. So, if you construct a list of military personnel from your area or any area in Macoupin I would make an early cutoff date, like 1920. We as veterans have several lists where we enter our names such as places where we served. I am guilty of getting away from doing a Vets page on Veterans Day but when I did one, there were many Macoupin people, dead and alive, on it. I will try to remember to revive the page on Veterans Day if someone will help remind me. There are many Macoupin vets on that list. So, Wayne, I wouldn't quit on it. You have a good idea. You just need to limit the years, I think. Start the page and put a note on it for any veteran someone knows of having served during certain years from a certain place, to contact you and you can add them. Let it set; don't fret over it and over a few yrs, you will have quite a list. Just my opinion. Gloria At 06:31 AM 5/20/2009, you wrote: >Thanks Debbi for the input. >The lack of response has shown that there is not any interest. >Without an interest, there is no reason to do anything. >It isn't surprising though, judging by the very low >attendance at the Veteran's Day and Memorial Day >ceremonies. >9-11 should have been a wake-up call. >Respect for the military personnel that have served >our country real well in the past are being shown >a lack of respect in the modern day world. >My little part in trying to honor all veterans >is not appreciated by many, so I suppose it >is best to stop putting anything on-line at this point >in time. >It may be time for me to hang it up. >Wayne > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Debbi Geer" <dgirth@yahoo.com> >To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:02 AM >Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] recent veterans > > >Wayne > >You have to draw the line somewhere. If you start adding the more recent >overseas engagements, then you'd have to include those who were only >assigned to stateside military bases. If you'll talking about making a list >of individuals who served in the military (war and/or peace), then I say you >should only put the names on the "military memory lists" of those who have >passed away. As long as they are living don't mention them. Along the way, >someone will be missed causing feelings to be hurt and I know it will not be >intended to do such. I would only include the following - > >1) those who graduated from the Gillespie High School or a high school no >longer in existence (such as Benld HS) in the Gillespie School District area >regardless of burial location >2) those who moved into the Gillespie School District later in life being >residents at the time of their deaths regardless of burial location >3) those who are buried in a cemetery in the Gillespie School District > >If you start including the entire county, then someone will be missed and >the next thing you'll hear is an unkind word by someone. Perhaps those who >live outside the Gillespie School District can be given to Gloria for the >Macoupin Co website. > >Debbi > > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
" DOCUMENTATION of DATA, [ prior to 07 Apr 2006 ]" . " Notes not having a reference to { "Sources" } or { "URL address" } were compiled by James W. DUGGER, < jmswdggr@yahoo .com > prior to 01 Jan 2005 and those source is not know or avaiable at that time.". ! The Battle of Virden, the UMWA and the Challenge of Solidarity ! URL: < http://www.kentlaw.edu/ilhs/sanjuan.htm > /s/ Jim -- theOldMan -- James W. DUGGER ---Sometimes the -- DELETED key -- is the Best KEY to be USE --- --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Richard & Jene Cheek <cheekfamok@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Richard & Jene Cheek <cheekfamok@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Virden Monuments To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 4:37 PM I really appreciate what you do to keep us aware of those who have sacrificed for us. I just noticed on the Revolutionary War Monument in Carlinville, you have listed John Creek. I am pretty sure it should be John Cheek. I have spent quite a bit of time trying to find a connection between John's family and my line of Cheeks but so far have not been successful. I am often called Richard Creek by those who just can't quite believe my name really is Cheek so it is not an unusual thing to do.Thanks again for your efforts, Richard Cheek <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<| >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity." -General Dwight David Eisenhower --- On Mon, 5/18/09, W Hinton <wmhntn@frontiernet.net> wrote: From: W Hinton <wmhntn@frontiernet.net> Subject: [ILMACOUP] Virden Monuments To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 8:01 AM I have updated the Virden section of Macoupin County Monuments & Memorials with the following monuments : Battle of Virden 1898 Officer Mike Operation Iraqi Freedom The Battle of Virden 1898, dedicated to the Coal Miners in the 1898 Riot of Virden is well worth the time to visit, The only way I know to descibe it is a Scupltured Mural with a lot of detail. A photograph can not do justice for this monument. A big item in the history of coal mining in Macoupin County. http://gillespieil.com/monpg5.html Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I really appreciate what you do to keep us aware of those who have sacrificed for us. I just noticed on the Revolutionary War Monument in Carlinville, you have listed John Creek. I am pretty sure it should be John Cheek. I have spent quite a bit of time trying to find a connection between John's family and my line of Cheeks but so far have not been successful. I am often called Richard Creek by those who just can't quite believe my name really is Cheek so it is not an unusual thing to do.Thanks again for your efforts, Richard Cheek <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<| >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity." -General Dwight David Eisenhower --- On Mon, 5/18/09, W Hinton <wmhntn@frontiernet.net> wrote: From: W Hinton <wmhntn@frontiernet.net> Subject: [ILMACOUP] Virden Monuments To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 8:01 AM I have updated the Virden section of Macoupin County Monuments & Memorials with the following monuments : Battle of Virden 1898 Officer Mike Operation Iraqi Freedom The Battle of Virden 1898, dedicated to the Coal Miners in the 1898 Riot of Virden is well worth the time to visit, The only way I know to descibe it is a Scupltured Mural with a lot of detail. A photograph can not do justice for this monument. A big item in the history of coal mining in Macoupin County. http://gillespieil.com/monpg5.html Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Wayne, I would like to give input regarding recent veterans, but mine comes from afar. I agree that 9-11 should be a huge wake-up call. It seems that as time lengthens from Sept. 11th, 2001, the shorter the memory is of that horrible day. (When my mother or my brother mentions their birth date, the reaction borders on horror--both were born on September 11th.) I would like you to know I check your website all the time even though most of my early Macoupin families were in the Palmyra area. Because my Macoupin families are much further removed in time from today's Macoupin people, I didn't think I could or should have much input to offer. I know it is a lot of work, but I would like to see those who have served recently in the military. Just my thoughts for what they are worth. Linda R.F. Arnold Menifee, California In a message dated 5/20/2009 3:31:54 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, wmhntn@frontiernet.net writes: Thanks Debbi for the input. The lack of response has shown that there is not any interest. Without an interest, there is no reason to do anything. It isn't surprising though, judging by the very low attendance at the Veteran's Day and Memorial Day ceremonies. 9-11 should have been a wake-up call. Respect for the military personnel that have served our country real well in the past are being shown a lack of respect in the modern day world. My little part in trying to honor all veterans is not appreciated by many, so I suppose it is best to stop putting anything on-line at this point in time. It may be time for me to hang it up. Wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbi Geer" <dgirth@yahoo.com> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:02 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] recent veterans Wayne You have to draw the line somewhere. If you start adding the more recent overseas engagements, then you'd have to include those who were only assigned to stateside military bases. If you'll talking about making a list of individuals who served in the military (war and/or peace), then I say you should only put the names on the "military memory lists" of those who have passed away. As long as they are living don't mention them. Along the way, someone will be missed causing feelings to be hurt and I know it will not be intended to do such. I would only include the following - 1) those who graduated from the Gillespie High School or a high school no longer in existence (such as Benld HS) in the Gillespie School District area regardless of burial location 2) those who moved into the Gillespie School District later in life being residents at the time of their deaths regardless of burial location 3) those who are buried in a cemetery in the Gillespie School District If you start including the entire county, then someone will be missed and the next thing you'll hear is an unkind word by someone. Perhaps those who live outside the Gillespie School District can be given to Gloria for the Macoupin Co website. Debbi Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in the U.S. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcntustrav00000002)
Wayne, Your efforts are appreciated by those of us who still respect and honor veterans. Perhaps we don't say thanks enough though. My husband is responsible for a Veteran's Memorial in our small town. He has donated his work for over 5 years building it, maintaining it and adding more bricks each year. What started out as a local only Vet Memorial has turned into an open invitation to any who want to honor their Vet with a purchase of a brick. These brick purchases paid for the Memorial which was very inexpensive as Memorials go. We are very proud of our Vets Memorial. This year we added our grandson who just returned from Iraq in Feb. We now have over 350 bricks honoring Vets from early on to as recent as Iraq, which is great for a town under 1,000. So thanks, Wayne, and hang in there, your efforts are very much appreciated. Mary Ann At 05:31 AM 5/20/2009, you wrote: >Thanks Debbi for the input. >The lack of response has shown that there is not any interest. >Without an interest, there is no reason to do anything. >It isn't surprising though, judging by the very low >attendance at the Veteran's Day and Memorial Day >ceremonies. >9-11 should have been a wake-up call. >Respect for the military personnel that have served >our country real well in the past are being shown >a lack of respect in the modern day world. >My little part in trying to honor all veterans >is not appreciated by many, so I suppose it >is best to stop putting anything on-line at this point >in time. >It may be time for me to hang it up. >Wayne > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Debbi Geer" <dgirth@yahoo.com> >To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:02 AM >Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] recent veterans > > >Wayne > >You have to draw the line somewhere. If you start adding the more recent >overseas engagements, then you'd have to include those who were only >assigned to stateside military bases. If you'll talking about making a list >of individuals who served in the military (war and/or peace), then I say you >should only put the names on the "military memory lists" of those who have >passed away. As long as they are living don't mention them. Along the way, >someone will be missed causing feelings to be hurt and I know it will not be >intended to do such. I would only include the following - > >1) those who graduated from the Gillespie High School or a high school no >longer in existence (such as Benld HS) in the Gillespie School District area >regardless of burial location >2) those who moved into the Gillespie School District later in life being >residents at the time of their deaths regardless of burial location >3) those who are buried in a cemetery in the Gillespie School District > >If you start including the entire county, then someone will be missed and >the next thing you'll hear is an unkind word by someone. Perhaps those who >live outside the Gillespie School District can be given to Gloria for the >Macoupin Co website. > >Debbi > > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thanks Debbi for the input. The lack of response has shown that there is not any interest. Without an interest, there is no reason to do anything. It isn't surprising though, judging by the very low attendance at the Veteran's Day and Memorial Day ceremonies. 9-11 should have been a wake-up call. Respect for the military personnel that have served our country real well in the past are being shown a lack of respect in the modern day world. My little part in trying to honor all veterans is not appreciated by many, so I suppose it is best to stop putting anything on-line at this point in time. It may be time for me to hang it up. Wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbi Geer" <dgirth@yahoo.com> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:02 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] recent veterans Wayne You have to draw the line somewhere. If you start adding the more recent overseas engagements, then you'd have to include those who were only assigned to stateside military bases. If you'll talking about making a list of individuals who served in the military (war and/or peace), then I say you should only put the names on the "military memory lists" of those who have passed away. As long as they are living don't mention them. Along the way, someone will be missed causing feelings to be hurt and I know it will not be intended to do such. I would only include the following - 1) those who graduated from the Gillespie High School or a high school no longer in existence (such as Benld HS) in the Gillespie School District area regardless of burial location 2) those who moved into the Gillespie School District later in life being residents at the time of their deaths regardless of burial location 3) those who are buried in a cemetery in the Gillespie School District If you start including the entire county, then someone will be missed and the next thing you'll hear is an unkind word by someone. Perhaps those who live outside the Gillespie School District can be given to Gloria for the Macoupin Co website. Debbi
Wayne You have to draw the line somewhere. If you start adding the more recent overseas engagements, then you'd have to include those who were only assigned to stateside military bases. If you'll talking about making a list of individuals who served in the military (war and/or peace), then I say you should only put the names on the "military memory lists" of those who have passed away. As long as they are living don't mention them. Along the way, someone will be missed causing feelings to be hurt and I know it will not be intended to do such. I would only include the following - 1) those who graduated from the Gillespie High School or a high school no longer in existence (such as Benld HS) in the Gillespie School District area regardless of burial location 2) those who moved into the Gillespie School District later in life being residents at the time of their deaths regardless of burial location 3) those who are buried in a cemetery in the Gillespie School District If you start including the entire county, then someone will be missed and the next thing you'll hear is an unkind word by someone. Perhaps those who live outside the Gillespie School District can be given to Gloria for the Macoupin Co website. Debbi --- On Tue, 5/19/09, W Hinton <wmhntn@frontiernet.net> wrote: From: W Hinton <wmhntn@frontiernet.net> Subject: [ILMACOUP] recent veterans To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 7:12 AM I had a person inquire as to the more recent veterans info. Is there an interest and who has the data? Isn't there something else besides these, maybe Croatia or ?. ? Persian Gulf War "Desert Storm" / "Desert Shield" War in Afganistan "War on Terrorism" War in Iraq "Operation Iraqi Freedom" I am willing to add these, along with the Vietnam and Korean War veterans pages. Although I have been trying to concentrate on the Gillespie area, if adding the recent veterans, I will be willimg to include all of Macoupin County. Back to the Civil War - updated the Biography of Joseph H. Proctor http://gillespieil.com/gillespie/bio_proctor_j.html Wayme http://gillespieil.com/gillespie/ Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I had a person inquire as to the more recent veterans info. Is there an interest and who has the data? Isn't there something else besides these, maybe Croatia or ?. ? Persian Gulf War "Desert Storm" / "Desert Shield" War in Afganistan "War on Terrorism" War in Iraq "Operation Iraqi Freedom" I am willing to add these, along with the Vietnam and Korean War veterans pages. Although I have been trying to concentrate on the Gillespie area, if adding the recent veterans, I will be willimg to include all of Macoupin County. Back to the Civil War - updated the Biography of Joseph H. Proctor http://gillespieil.com/gillespie/bio_proctor_j.html Wayme http://gillespieil.com/gillespie/
Someone mentioned weeding license application signed by Lorenzo Mantle on behalf of one of his daughters; I would appreciate it if the person would contact me again. I lost the e-mail. Wilbur Aiken In a message dated 5/18/2009 10:55:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time, tonky@royell.org writes: I see you got there! It is so impressive. Three small points: on the typed list of those killed, you missed Frank Bilyeu, and you have Kamerer as Kamperer. And on the list of patrons, there should be an "&" ampersand sign between the names John and Jeannie Alexander. It's good to see it covered so well. Linda Kmiecik ----- Original Message ----- From: "W Hinton" <wmhntn@frontiernet.net> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 8:01 AM Subject: [ILMACOUP] Virden Monuments >I have updated the Virden section of > Macoupin County Monuments & Memorials > with the following monuments : > Battle of Virden 1898 > Officer Mike > Operation Iraqi Freedom > > The Battle of Virden 1898, dedicated to > the Coal Miners in the 1898 Riot of Virden > is well worth the time to visit, The only way > I know to descibe it is a Scupltured Mural > with a lot of detail. A photograph can not > do justice for this monument. > A big item in the history of coal mining > in Macoupin County. > > http://gillespieil.com/monpg5.html > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in the U.S. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcntustrav00000002)
I see you got there! It is so impresssive. Three small points: on the typed list of those killed, you missed Frank Bilyeu, and you have Kamerer as Kamperer. And on the list of patrons, there should be an "&" ampersand sign between the names John and Jeannie Alexander. It's good to see it covered so well. Linda Kmiecik ----- Original Message ----- From: "W Hinton" <wmhntn@frontiernet.net> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 8:01 AM Subject: [ILMACOUP] Virden Monuments >I have updated the Virden section of > Macoupin County Monuments & Memorials > with the following monuments : > Battle of Virden 1898 > Officer Mike > Operation Iraqi Freedom > > The Battle of Virden 1898, dedicated to > the Coal Miners in the 1898 Riot of Virden > is well worth the time to visit, The only way > I know to descibe it is a Scupltured Mural > with a lot of detail. A photograph can not > do justice for this monument. > A big item in the history of coal mining > in Macoupin County. > > http://gillespieil.com/monpg5.html > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
I have updated the Virden section of Macoupin County Monuments & Memorials with the following monuments : Battle of Virden 1898 Officer Mike Operation Iraqi Freedom The Battle of Virden 1898, dedicated to the Coal Miners in the 1898 Riot of Virden is well worth the time to visit, The only way I know to descibe it is a Scupltured Mural with a lot of detail. A photograph can not do justice for this monument. A big item in the history of coal mining in Macoupin County. http://gillespieil.com/monpg5.html
A photo was sent by Denise Simpson with her grandparents attired for the centennial. I have added this to the Gillespie website : http://gillespieil.com/gillespie/noefamily.html With this in mind, it would be great to hear more about the events and people during this 1953 celebration. Wednesday night's night storms hit Gillespie rather hard. With power lines down and sparking, I was able to get only a few photos on Thursday morning. I have put a couple on the main website page. http://gillespieil.com/gillespie/ Wayne