Thank you for making a contact about Macoupin  on ancestry. Hope it does change soon. I have written numerous times for a correction to no avail. I had a cousin die in January of this year in Macoupin and her Social Security Death info has MacOupin, no response to that email either! Ruthann Rives Hellemeyer --- On Fri, 6/5/09, KathieMir@aol.com <KathieMir@aol.com> wrote: From: KathieMir@aol.com <KathieMir@aol.com> Subject: [ILMACOUP] updating your Ancestry.com e-mail Preferences To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 6:54 PM This works if you are a member of ANCESTRY.com   This is how I  changed mine. 1.  Log onto ANCESTRY.COM 2.  In the upper right of screen is "My Account" - click on that 3.  Look for a box on the right side with two choices - My Alerts and  My Site Preferences.  Click on My Site Preferences 4  Select - Display my email address to other members. 5.  Go  to bottom of screen and click on Update Preferences. PS - I met a woman that works for the Generations Network (they  own Ancestry.com).  She said she can help change the look/spelling of  MacOupin to Macoupin on the Ancestry.com index.  Give it some time - may  take a month or two..  Kathie Mirabella  In a message dated 6/5/2009 7:18:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  macoupincounty@earthlink.net writes: Jan, I  am using a cell phone so I can't right now go explore to show you where  you edit your profile or change your preference to give people your email  address. If someone could lead Jan thru this, I would appreciate it. Even  the wifi here at a campground in Maine won't let me do anything so on a  wing with the cell phone. Gloria At 12:47 PM 6/5/2009, you  wrote: >You ladies are going to have to pick me up by the shoulders on  this one. I >don't use the message boards as often as I would like, but  I like to know >when another "control" is added to our daily lives.  There are too many now >and more projected I'm afraid. I read Gloria's  message 3 times and while I >get the general drift, I am a Model T when  it comes to Tweet, Twitter and >their cousins. Is there a way to  explain what is happening in lay terms? >Change my email addy? Ancestry  is always 'harvesting' something--which >they turn around and sell. Jan  in California ----- Original Message ----- >From:  <LRFArnold@aol.com> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June  >05, 2009 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] ancestry email system >I  ditto >your comments!  I just went to my Ancestry.com  account  and changed > my >preferences to allow my E-mail  address. > > Ancestry.com must have >recently automatically  restricted E-mail addresses > because I mine had >always been  available as far I knew until you  called > attention to >it.  > > Thanks for the heads up. > > Linda R.F. Arnold >  >_LRFArnold@AOL.com_ (mailto:LRFArnold@AOL.com) > > Menifee,  >California > > > > > > > Quoted  from Cindy  Birk Conley, cc White County >ILGenWeb: > > "The Overstreet   mailing list is having a fuss over a new >feature ancestry > has  added to make  it harder to email other folks, so I >checked it  out > and sent the following  message to my White County list  >members: > > Listmembers, > > Ancestry  has recently  added another >restriction on their message boards. > If you  want  to directly email >someone who has posted to a message board  > you will likely  get a message >that the person has CHOSEN to  only use > ancestry's email  system, which >makes it hard for  anyone who does not > have an ancestry  subscription. >Ancestry  seems to have made this choice > for  everyone. > > However, if  >you would like to be contacted directly or off  the message >  board, you >can edit your profile or change your preference to   give > people your >email addy, although it is shown as a graphic to  keep  spam > robots from >grabbing it. > > I would  suggest you make the change. I  went ahead and >added a public  > profile, since I am the board administrator.  These >public  profiles seem > to be an attempt to morph ancestry into a  >social  networking website. I'm > certainly more interested in  finding >the  immigration record of Robert > Savage than going  to Twitter >or  Facebook. > > Cindy" > > Check out  Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >  ------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list,  please  send an email to > >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with  the word 'unsubscribe'  without the > >quotes in the subject  and > the body of the  message > > > >**************We  found the real ‘Hotel California’ and the >‘Seinfeld’ >  diner. What will you find? 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Thank you Kathie for taking time to walk people through this Ancestry.com change. Also I do hope they will change the spelling of Macoupin! Wow, I have worked on this for years to no avail. When I copy things to add to my files I always have had to change the way it was spelled. Thanks so much! Marilyn G. ----- Original Message ----- From: <KathieMir@aol.com> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 6:54 PM Subject: [ILMACOUP] updating your Ancestry.com e-mail Preferences > This works if you are a member of ANCESTRY.com This is how I changed > mine. > > 1. Log onto ANCESTRY.COM > 2. In the upper right of screen is "My Account" - click on that > 3. Look for a box on the right side with two choices - My Alerts and My > Site Preferences. Click on My Site Preferences > 4 Select - Display my email address to other members. > 5. Go to bottom of screen and click on Update Preferences. > > PS - I met a woman that works for the Generations Network (they own > Ancestry.com). She said she can help change the look/spelling of > MacOupin to > Macoupin on the Ancestry.com index. Give it some time - may take a month > or > two.. > > Kathie Mirabella

THANK YOU! And I printed it to keep on hand. Once I get a handle, I'm a good steady ender. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <KathieMir@aol.com> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 4:54 PM Subject: [ILMACOUP] updating your Ancestry.com e-mail Preferences > This works if you are a member of ANCESTRY.com This is how I changed > mine. > > 1. Log onto ANCESTRY.COM > 2. In the upper right of screen is "My Account" - click on that > 3. Look for a box on the right side with two choices - My Alerts and My > Site Preferences. Click on My Site Preferences > 4 Select - Display my email address to other members. > 5. Go to bottom of screen and click on Update Preferences. > > PS - I met a woman that works for the Generations Network (they own > Ancestry.com). She said she can help change the look/spelling of > MacOupin to > Macoupin on the Ancestry.com index. Give it some time - may take a month > or > two.. > > Kathie Mirabella > > > In a message dated 6/5/2009 7:18:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > macoupincounty@earthlink.net writes: > > Jan, I am using a cell phone so I can't right now go explore to show you > where you edit your profile or change your preference to give people your > email address. If someone could lead Jan thru this, I would appreciate > it. > Even the wifi here at a campground in Maine won't let me do anything so > on > a wing with the cell phone. > > Gloria > > At 12:47 PM 6/5/2009, you wrote: >>You ladies are going to have to pick me up by the shoulders on this one. > I >>don't use the message boards as often as I would like, but I like to know >>when another "control" is added to our daily lives. There are too many > now >>and more projected I'm afraid. I read Gloria's message 3 times and while > I >>get the general drift, I am a Model T when it comes to Tweet, Twitter and >>their cousins. Is there a way to explain what is happening in lay terms? >>Change my email addy? Ancestry is always 'harvesting' something--which >>they turn around and sell. Jan in California ----- Original Message ----- >>From: <LRFArnold@aol.com> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June >>05, 2009 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] ancestry email system >I ditto >>your comments! I just went to my Ancestry.com account and changed > my >>preferences to allow my E-mail address. > > Ancestry.com must have >>recently automatically restricted E-mail addresses > because I mine had >>always been available as far I knew until you called > attention to >>it. > > Thanks for the heads up. > > Linda R.F. Arnold > >>_LRFArnold@AOL.com_ (mailto:LRFArnold@AOL.com) > > Menifee, >>California > > > > > > > Quoted from Cindy Birk Conley, cc White County >>ILGenWeb: > > "The Overstreet mailing list is having a fuss over a new >>feature ancestry > has added to make it harder to email other folks, so > I >>checked it out > and sent the following message to my White County list >>members: > > Listmembers, > > Ancestry has recently added another >>restriction on their message boards. > If you want to directly email >>someone who has posted to a message board > you will likely get a > message >>that the person has CHOSEN to only use > ancestry's email system, which >>makes it hard for anyone who does not > have an ancestry subscription. >>Ancestry seems to have made this choice > for everyone. > > However, if >>you would like to be contacted directly or off the message > board, you >>can edit your profile or change your preference to give > people your >>email addy, although it is shown as a graphic to keep spam > robots from >>grabbing it. > > I would suggest you make the change. I went ahead and >>added a public > profile, since I am the board administrator. These >>public profiles seem > to be an attempt to morph ancestry into a >>social networking website. I'm > certainly more interested in finding >>the immigration record of Robert > Savage than going to Twitter >>or Facebook. > > Cindy" > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > > >>http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > >>**************We found the real ‘Hotel California’ and the >>‘Seinfeld’ > diner. What will you find? 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This works if you are a member of ANCESTRY.com This is how I changed mine. 1. Log onto ANCESTRY.COM 2. In the upper right of screen is "My Account" - click on that 3. Look for a box on the right side with two choices - My Alerts and My Site Preferences. Click on My Site Preferences 4 Select - Display my email address to other members. 5. Go to bottom of screen and click on Update Preferences. PS - I met a woman that works for the Generations Network (they own Ancestry.com). She said she can help change the look/spelling of MacOupin to Macoupin on the Ancestry.com index. Give it some time - may take a month or two.. Kathie Mirabella In a message dated 6/5/2009 7:18:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, macoupincounty@earthlink.net writes: Jan, I am using a cell phone so I can't right now go explore to show you where you edit your profile or change your preference to give people your email address. If someone could lead Jan thru this, I would appreciate it. Even the wifi here at a campground in Maine won't let me do anything so on a wing with the cell phone. Gloria At 12:47 PM 6/5/2009, you wrote: >You ladies are going to have to pick me up by the shoulders on this one. I >don't use the message boards as often as I would like, but I like to know >when another "control" is added to our daily lives. There are too many now >and more projected I'm afraid. I read Gloria's message 3 times and while I >get the general drift, I am a Model T when it comes to Tweet, Twitter and >their cousins. Is there a way to explain what is happening in lay terms? >Change my email addy? Ancestry is always 'harvesting' something--which >they turn around and sell. Jan in California ----- Original Message ----- >From: <LRFArnold@aol.com> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June >05, 2009 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] ancestry email system >I ditto >your comments! I just went to my Ancestry.com account and changed > my >preferences to allow my E-mail address. > > Ancestry.com must have >recently automatically restricted E-mail addresses > because I mine had >always been available as far I knew until you called > attention to >it. > > Thanks for the heads up. > > Linda R.F. Arnold > >_LRFArnold@AOL.com_ (mailto:LRFArnold@AOL.com) > > Menifee, >California > > > > > > > Quoted from Cindy Birk Conley, cc White County >ILGenWeb: > > "The Overstreet mailing list is having a fuss over a new >feature ancestry > has added to make it harder to email other folks, so I >checked it out > and sent the following message to my White County list >members: > > Listmembers, > > Ancestry has recently added another >restriction on their message boards. > If you want to directly email >someone who has posted to a message board > you will likely get a message >that the person has CHOSEN to only use > ancestry's email system, which >makes it hard for anyone who does not > have an ancestry subscription. >Ancestry seems to have made this choice > for everyone. > > However, if >you would like to be contacted directly or off the message > board, you >can edit your profile or change your preference to give > people your >email addy, although it is shown as a graphic to keep spam > robots from >grabbing it. > > I would suggest you make the change. I went ahead and >added a public > profile, since I am the board administrator. These >public profiles seem > to be an attempt to morph ancestry into a >social networking website. I'm > certainly more interested in finding >the immigration record of Robert > Savage than going to Twitter >or Facebook. > > Cindy" > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > >**************We found the real ‘Hotel California’ and the >‘Seinfeld’ > diner. What will you find? 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Jan, I am using a cell phone so I can't right now go explore to show you where you edit your profile or change your preference to give people your email address. If someone could lead Jan thru this, I would appreciate it. Even the wifi here at a campground in Maine won't let me do anything so on a wing with the cell phone. Gloria At 12:47 PM 6/5/2009, you wrote: >You ladies are going to have to pick me up by the shoulders on this one. I >don't use the message boards as often as I would like, but I like to know >when another "control" is added to our daily lives. There are too many now >and more projected I'm afraid. I read Gloria's message 3 times and while I >get the general drift, I am a Model T when it comes to Tweet, Twitter and >their cousins. Is there a way to explain what is happening in lay terms? >Change my email addy? Ancestry is always 'harvesting' something--which >they turn around and sell. Jan in California ----- Original Message ----- >From: <LRFArnold@aol.com> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June >05, 2009 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] ancestry email system >I ditto >your comments! I just went to my Ancestry.com account and changed > my >preferences to allow my E-mail address. > > Ancestry.com must have >recently automatically restricted E-mail addresses > because I mine had >always been available as far I knew until you called > attention to >it. > > Thanks for the heads up. > > Linda R.F. Arnold > >_LRFArnold@AOL.com_ (mailto:LRFArnold@AOL.com) > > Menifee, >California > > > > > > > Quoted from Cindy Birk Conley, cc White County >ILGenWeb: > > "The Overstreet mailing list is having a fuss over a new >feature ancestry > has added to make it harder to email other folks, so I >checked it out > and sent the following message to my White County list >members: > > Listmembers, > > Ancestry has recently added another >restriction on their message boards. > If you want to directly email >someone who has posted to a message board > you will likely get a message >that the person has CHOSEN to only use > ancestry's email system, which >makes it hard for anyone who does not > have an ancestry subscription. >Ancestry seems to have made this choice > for everyone. > > However, if >you would like to be contacted directly or off the message > board, you >can edit your profile or change your preference to give > people your >email addy, although it is shown as a graphic to keep spam > robots from >grabbing it. > > I would suggest you make the change. I went ahead and >added a public > profile, since I am the board administrator. These >public profiles seem > to be an attempt to morph ancestry into a >social networking website. I'm > certainly more interested in finding >the immigration record of Robert > Savage than going to Twitter >or Facebook. > > Cindy" > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > >**************We found the real ‘Hotel California’ and the >‘Seinfeld’ > diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. > >(http://www.whereitsat.com/#/music/all-spots/355/47.796964/-66.374711/2/Youve-Found-Where-Its-At?ncid=eml > > cntnew00000007) > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message Check out Macoupin >County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send >an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I ditto your comments! I just went to my Ancestry.com account and changed my preferences to allow my E-mail address. Ancestry.com must have recently automatically restricted E-mail addresses because I mine had always been available as far I knew until you called attention to it. Thanks for the heads up. Linda R.F. Arnold _LRFArnold@AOL.com_ (mailto:LRFArnold@AOL.com) Menifee, California Quoted from Cindy Birk Conley, cc White County ILGenWeb: "The Overstreet mailing list is having a fuss over a new feature ancestry has added to make it harder to email other folks, so I checked it out and sent the following members to my White County listmembers: Listmembers, Ancestry has recently added another restriction on their message boards. If you want to directly email someone who has posted to a message board you will likely get a message that the person has CHOSEN to only use ancestry's email system, which makes it hard for anyone who does not have an ancestry subscription. Ancestry seems to have made this choice for everyone. However, if you would like to be contacted directly or off the message board, you can edit your profile or change your preference to give people your email addy, although it is shown as a graphic to keep spam robots from grabbing it. I would suggest you make the change. I went ahead and added a public profile, since I am the board administrator. These public profiles seem to be an attempt to morph ancestry into a social networking website. I'm certainly more interested in finding the immigration record of Robert Savage than going to Twitter or Facebook. Cindy" Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************We found the real ‘Hotel California’ and the ‘Seinfeld’ diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. (http://www.whereitsat.com/#/music/all-spots/355/47.796964/-66.374711/2/Youve-Found-Where-Its-At?ncid=eml cntnew00000007)

Quoted from Cindy Birk Conley, cc White County ILGenWeb: "The Overstreet mailing list is having a fuss over a new feature ancestry has added to make it harder to email other folks, so I checked it out and sent the following members to my White County listmembers: Listmembers, Ancestry has recently added another restriction on their message boards. If you want to directly email someone who has posted to a message board you will likely get a message that the person has CHOSEN to only use ancestry's email system, which makes it hard for anyone who does not have an ancestry subscription. Ancestry seems to have made this choice for everyone. However, if you would like to be contacted directly or off the message board, you can edit your profile or change your preference to give people your email addy, although it is shown as a graphic to keep spam robots from grabbing it. I would suggest you make the change. I went ahead and added a public profile, since I am the board administrator. These public profiles seem to be an attempt to morph ancestry into a social networking website. I'm certainly more interested in finding the immigration record of Robert Savage than going to Twitter or Facebook. Cindy"

You ladies are going to have to pick me up by the shoulders on this one. I don't use the message boards as often as I would like, but I like to know when another "control" is added to our daily lives. There are too many now and more projected I'm afraid. I read Gloria's message 3 times and while I get the general drift, I am a Model T when it comes to Tweet, Twitter and their cousins. Is there a way to explain what is happening in lay terms? Change my email addy? Ancestry is always 'harvesting' something--which they turn around and sell. Jan in California ----- Original Message ----- From: <LRFArnold@aol.com> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] ancestry email system >I ditto your comments! I just went to my Ancestry.com account and changed > my preferences to allow my E-mail address. > > Ancestry.com must have recently automatically restricted E-mail addresses > because I mine had always been available as far I knew until you called > attention to it. > > Thanks for the heads up. > > Linda R.F. Arnold > _LRFArnold@AOL.com_ (mailto:LRFArnold@AOL.com) > > Menifee, California > > > > > > > Quoted from Cindy Birk Conley, cc White County ILGenWeb: > > "The Overstreet mailing list is having a fuss over a new feature ancestry > has added to make it harder to email other folks, so I checked it out > and sent the following message to my White County list members: > > Listmembers, > > Ancestry has recently added another restriction on their message boards. > If you want to directly email someone who has posted to a message board > you will likely get a message that the person has CHOSEN to only use > ancestry's email system, which makes it hard for anyone who does not > have an ancestry subscription. Ancestry seems to have made this choice > for everyone. > > However, if you would like to be contacted directly or off the message > board, you can edit your profile or change your preference to give > people your email addy, although it is shown as a graphic to keep spam > robots from grabbing it. > > I would suggest you make the change. I went ahead and added a public > profile, since I am the board administrator. These public profiles seem > to be an attempt to morph ancestry into a social networking website. I'm > certainly more interested in finding the immigration record of Robert > Savage than going to Twitter or Facebook. > > Cindy" > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > **************We found the real ‘Hotel California’ and the ‘Seinfeld’ > diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. > (http://www.whereitsat.com/#/music/all-spots/355/47.796964/-66.374711/2/Youve-Found-Where-Its-At?ncid=eml > cntnew00000007) > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I also found following: Could this be the marriage? I have seen the names wrong on the index. Jenny could be nick name for Virginia. ANDERSON, JOHN B RAMEY, JENNY (MISS) 1865-05-28 005/0022 00004800 MACOUPIN Tombstone Revelations in Macoupin County, IL Book VI Carlinville City Cemetery page 9 Anderson John B - August 15, 1843 January 23, 1877 Virginia M (w/John B.) July 24, 1841 September 3, 1902 I noticed all your Anderson's are buried in section E of the Carlinville Cemetery. Also note these death in section E Anderson, David (S/ J.B. & ?V.) December 15 1872 (this is death date - there is no birth date) Anderson, Grace R. (d/J.B. & V.) 18 years 2 months 12 days November 2, 1891 Following Ramey is also in section E Ramey, Elizabeth (w/Rev. M.B) 54 years 8 days June 8, 1867. Kathie Mirabella In a message dated 6/4/2009 9:03:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sjlbuethner-sheminee@att.net writes: The answer to your question [unknown Anderson] is below, in the 1870 Census. However, finding a John and Alford Anderson in Missouri is whole lot more difficult. Sigh. Sharon 1880 United States Federal Census about Mary V. Anderson Name: Mary V. Anderson Home in 1880: Carlinville, MacOupin, Illinois Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Birthplace: Illinois Relation to head-of-household: Self (Head) Father's birthplace: Virginia Mother's birthplace: Maryland Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: Keeping House Marital Status: Widowed Race: White Gender: Female Household Members: Name Age Mary V. Anderson 38 Joseph Anderson 14 Alice Anderson 11 Florence G. Anderson 6 John K. Anderson 3 Joseph Ramey 33 xxxxxxxx 1870 United States Federal Census about John Anderson Name: John Anderson Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Age in 1870: 25 Birthplace: Missouri Home in 1870: Township 10 Range 7, MacOupin, Illinois Race: White Gender: Male Value of real estate: View Image Post Office: Carlinville Household Members: Name Age John Anderson 25, b. Missouri, Blacksmith Virginia Anderson 27, b. IL Joseph Anderson 4, b. IL Alice Anderson 1, b. IL Alford Anderson 20, b. Missouri, Farm Hand [brother to John?] xxxxxxxxxx Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Limited Time Offers: Save big on popular laptops at Dell (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221354145x1201369495/aol?redir=http:%2F %2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215221161%3B37268813%3By)

It looks like Virginia had 5 children, 3 living in 1900. And Alice m. Richard Philips. 1900 United States Federal Census about Virginia Anderson Name: Virginia Anderson Home in 1900: Carlinville, MacOupin, Illinois Age: 59 Birth Date: Jun 1840 Birthplace: Illinois Race: White Ethnicity: American Gender: Female Relationship to head-of-house: Mother-in-law Father's Birthplace: Pennsylvania Mother's Birthplace: Virginia Mother: number of living children: 3 Mother: How many children: 5 Marital Status: Widowed Residence : Carlinville City, MacOupin, Illinois Occupation: View on Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Richard Philips 30 Allice Philips 30 Bert Philips 8 Virginia Anderson 59 On 4 Jun 2009 at 21:09, KathieMir@aol.com wrote: I also found following: Could this be the marriage? I have seen the names wrong on the index. Jenny could be nick name for Virginia. ANDERSON, JOHN B RAMEY, JENNY (MISS) 1865-05-28 005/0022 00004800 MACOUPIN Tombstone Revelations in Macoupin County, IL Book VI Carlinville City Cemetery page 9 Anderson John B - August 15, 1843 January 23, 1877 Virginia M (w/John B.) July 24, 1841 September 3, 1902 I noticed all your Anderson's are buried in section E of the Carlinville Cemetery. Also note these death in section E Anderson, David (S/ J.B. & ?V.) December 15 1872 (this is death date - there is no birth date) Anderson, Grace R. (d/J.B. & V.) 18 years 2 months 12 days November 2, 1891 Following Ramey is also in section E Ramey, Elizabeth (w/Rev. M.B) 54 years 8 days June 8, 1867. Kathie Mirabella In a message dated 6/4/2009 9:03:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sjlbuethner-sheminee@att.net writes: The answer to your question [unknown Anderson] is below, in the 1870 Census. However, finding a John and Alford Anderson in Missouri is whole lot more difficult. Sigh. Sharon 1880 United States Federal Census about Mary V. Anderson Name: Mary V. Anderson Home in 1880: Carlinville, MacOupin, Illinois Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Birthplace: Illinois Relation to head-of-household: Self (Head) Father's birthplace: Virginia Mother's birthplace: Maryland Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: Keeping House Marital Status: Widowed Race: White Gender: Female Household Members: Name Age Mary V. Anderson 38 Joseph Anderson 14 Alice Anderson 11 Florence G. Anderson 6 John K. Anderson 3 Joseph Ramey 33 xxxxxxxx 1870 United States Federal Census about John Anderson Name: John Anderson Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Age in 1870: 25 Birthplace: Missouri Home in 1870: Township 10 Range 7, MacOupin, Illinois Race: White Gender: Male Value of real estate: View Image Post Office: Carlinville Household Members: Name Age John Anderson 25, b. Missouri, Blacksmith Virginia Anderson 27, b. IL Joseph Anderson 4, b. IL Alice Anderson 1, b. IL Alford Anderson 20, b. Missouri, Farm Hand [brother to John?] xxxxxxxxxx Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Limited Time Offers: Save big on popular laptops at Dell (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221354145x1201369495/aol?r edir=http:%2F %2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215221161%3B37268813%3By) Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The answer to your question [unknown Anderson] is below, in the 1870 Census. However, finding a John and Alford Anderson in Missouri is whole lot more difficult. Sigh. Sharon 1880 United States Federal Census about Mary V. Anderson Name: Mary V. Anderson Home in 1880: Carlinville, MacOupin, Illinois Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Birthplace: Illinois Relation to head-of-household: Self (Head) Father's birthplace: Virginia Mother's birthplace: Maryland Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: Keeping House Marital Status: Widowed Race: White Gender: Female Household Members: Name Age Mary V. Anderson 38 Joseph Anderson 14 Alice Anderson 11 Florence G. Anderson 6 John K. Anderson 3 Joseph Ramey 33 xxxxxxxx 1870 United States Federal Census about John Anderson Name: John Anderson Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Age in 1870: 25 Birthplace: Missouri Home in 1870: Township 10 Range 7, MacOupin, Illinois Race: White Gender: Male Value of real estate: View Image Post Office: Carlinville Household Members: Name Age John Anderson 25, b. Missouri, Blacksmith Virginia Anderson 27, b. IL Joseph Anderson 4, b. IL Alice Anderson 1, b. IL Alford Anderson 20, b. Missouri, Farm Hand [brother to John?] xxxxxxxxxx

My name is Edith Ann Anderson <edith.anderson42@yahoo.com> My father was John Harbird Anderson of University City, MO and Carlinville, IL (until he was 17). His sister is Helen Virginia ("Alice") Anderson Brock also of Carlinville. Their father was John K. Anderson b. 1877 to a Male Anderson and Virginia M. Ramey Anderson b. 1842 in Carlinville, IL. I have attached a census page from 1880 (I couldn't open the file.gf) that shows Mary Ramey Anderson as widowed head of household, along with her brother, Joseph and my 3 yo grandfather along with his 3 siblings. I have spent, and other relatives, too, several years trying to locate the husband of Virginia M. Ramey/father of my grandfather John K(imball) Anderson. Can you give me any help at all? Other relatives of mine in Carlinville on my father's (John Harbird Anderson) were Georgia and Betty Burroughs of 302 Minton, Charles Burroughs and other Burroughs, and many Cherrys. Reputedly our uncle George Cherry was a drummer for Gen Sherman in his march from Atlanta to the sea (who knows?). Maternal relatives are from Gillespie. My mother was Edith Margaret Hutton Anderson and her parents were Charles and Lula (Fitzpatrick) Hutton. I did find a James B. Anderson who mustered out of the army in 1877 and returned to Tennessee. Coincidentally, Tennessee is where Mary Ramey Anderson's husband was from. Thanks for considering this inquiry. Edith Anderson 1606 E. 50th Place, 2A Chicago, IL 60615

Debra, I have no idea what preceded the Brethren Church on its location at Dean St. and Finis St. in Virden. The legal description includes Lots 2, 3, & 6 in Block 29 in Hickox addition to the town, now city, of Virden. Three deeds recorded together on the 19th of October 1911 appear consecutively in Deed Book 251, pages 500-501. Linda Kmiecik ----- Original Message ----- From: "debro1114" <debra1114@sbcglobal.net> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:02 PM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Trustees as Land Owner > Would this be the church that was built on the old home site of Jacob > and Alice Jane (Burch) Post? I believe it was on the "Thomas" corner. If > so Jacob and Alice were my great-great grandparents. I just wondered if > you found mention of them in your search. > Thanks > Debra Hayes Brodbeck > > Linda Kmiecik wrote: >> Today at the Macoupin Co. Courthouse I looked for any deed to the Virden >> Church of the Brethren, incorporated in 1912, which apparently no one has >> ever had. I looked under "B" for Brethren and Baptist, "C" for Church, >> "V" for Virden, and thought about "G" for German Baptist Church. I noted >> several deeds between David C. Vaniman and Trustees of the Church of the >> Brethren and Trustees of the German Baptist Church for other lands. >> Surely, I thought, such deeds would not be listed under "T" for Trustees! >> Wrong!!! I found not only the deeds for the Virden Brethren church >> property in Grantee Book 21, but noted many others for Trustees of >> Hettick Church, I.O.O.F., Stults Burying Ground (Palmyra), churches in >> Carlinville, Modesto, and elsewhere, school districts, banks, companies, >> and many other entities. >> >> Thus, at least in this 1900-1920 period, it might be wise to look under >> "T" for trustees of those groups. >> >> Linda Kmiecik >> >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Would this be the church that was built on the old home site of Jacob and Alice Jane (Burch) Post? I believe it was on the "Thomas" corner. If so Jacob and Alice were my great-great grandparents. I just wondered if you found mention of them in your search. Thanks Debra Hayes Brodbeck Linda Kmiecik wrote: > Today at the Macoupin Co. Courthouse I looked for any deed to the Virden Church of the Brethren, incorporated in 1912, which apparently no one has ever had. I looked under "B" for Brethren and Baptist, "C" for Church, "V" for Virden, and thought about "G" for German Baptist Church. I noted several deeds between David C. Vaniman and Trustees of the Church of the Brethren and Trustees of the German Baptist Church for other lands. Surely, I thought, such deeds would not be listed under "T" for Trustees! Wrong!!! I found not only the deeds for the Virden Brethren church property in Grantee Book 21, but noted many others for Trustees of Hettick Church, I.O.O.F., Stults Burying Ground (Palmyra), churches in Carlinville, Modesto, and elsewhere, school districts, banks, companies, and many other entities. > > Thus, at least in this 1900-1920 period, it might be wise to look under "T" for trustees of those groups. > > Linda Kmiecik > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Oops. In my reply to Linda below I was off by a century, mentioning the 1740s and 1760s when I really meant the 1840s and 1860s. No excuse for these errors except getting old and used to doing really early family history. Dwayne -----Original Message----- From: ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dwayne Wrightsman Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 7:36 PM To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Trustees as Land Owner Linda, That's great that you found the deed to the Virden CoB. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. If the deed is not too long, could you prepare a summary of the essential facts in the deed. My maternal great-grandfather, John H. Brubaker, was the first elder in charge of the Virden church. His oldest son (my maternal grandfather), Irvin J. Brubaker, was one of the early deacons. So was my paternal grandfather, George W. Wrightsman. The Virden church was organized the same year (1912) that the West Otter Creek church closed. My paternal grandmother's father, Javan Gibson, was elder in charge at that time. The new Pleasant Hill book that your committee published a few years back has a 1912 photo (p. 352) of the West Otter Creek church with a number of Brethren in it, including my father, Okal Wrightsman, who was a tiny baby at the time. He was held by his mother, Melva Wrightsman Gibson (daughter of Javan Gibson). Last year I wrote a book entitled SUGAR CREEK BRETHREN which follows the Brethren who settled on the Banks of Sugar Creek in Auburn Township in 1830 when Isham Gibson (father of Javan) founded the congregation. It then moves on to the Otter Creek congregation in Macoupin County, also established by Isham Gibson in the 1740s and even into the 1760s when the Pleasant Hill group formed. Isham Gibson was kicked out of the Brethren in the late 1760s just as Pleasant Hill was taking off. He moved to Missouri shortly thereafter and died. At one time the Otter Creek congregation included the satellite Brethren groups at Pleasant Hill in Virden-Girard, the "new" Sugar Creek in Auburn, Macoupin Creek over near Farmersville, and the Bear Creek group over in Christian County. Probably the most interesting chapter in the book is the naming of all the early Brethren buried in the Thayer Cemetery behind Maggie's Tavern. Most people do not know that this cemetery started out as a Brethren burial ground in 1833 on the farm of Elder John Dick. Yes, this is the same Dick family that the library in Carlinville is named after. If anyone wants to take a peek at my book, copies are at the Lincoln Presidential Library in Springfield and in the local libraries in Virden and in Auburn. Dwayne Wrightsman Lee, NH -----Original Message----- From: ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Kmiecik Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 6:34 PM To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILMACOUP] Trustees as Land Owner Today at the Macoupin Co. Courthouse I looked for any deed to the Virden Church of the Brethren, incorporated in 1912, which apparently no one has ever had. I looked under "B" for Brethren and Baptist, "C" for Church, "V" for Virden, and thought about "G" for German Baptist Church. I noted several deeds between David C. Vaniman and Trustees of the Church of the Brethren and Trustees of the German Baptist Church for other lands. Surely, I thought, such deeds would not be listed under "T" for Trustees! Wrong!!! I found not only the deeds for the Virden Brethren church property in Grantee Book 21, but noted many others for Trustees of Hettick Church, I.O.O.F., Stults Burying Ground (Palmyra), churches in Carlinville, Modesto, and elsewhere, school districts, banks, companies, and many other entities. Thus, at least in this 1900-1920 period, it might be wise to look under "T" for trustees of those groups. Linda Kmiecik Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ruthann, Five years ago (2004) the board of Asbury Cemetery had the following names listed: Harold Rich, Marcella Huson, Florence Gross, Eugene Ferguson and C. Thomas Sonneborn as well as myself. There were 2 more listed but they are now deceased, as some of the others listed could be also. We met once and I compiled a letter asking for donations for the upkeep of the cemetery. As I live too far away from Asbury Cemetery it is difficult for me to know what is going on. I corresponded with Florence Gross and sent a donation a few years in a row for the mowing. I was not aware that anyone was mowing for free as at one time there was monies in the bank to cover the "once a year" mowing, before Memorial Day, the last I knew. I need to look into the matter as I have been negligent in that respect. As you might know, I have ancestors buried there, several in fact, and am concerned about the upkeep. In fact one of mine married a Rives (Converse). Have we corresponded in the past? Mary Ann Kaylor At 07:38 PM 6/2/2009, you wrote: >Linda > > Did you find anything about Asbury Chuch or it's cemetery in rural > Hettick? I haven't been able to find out who is really responsible > for the cemetery other than the family that mows it for free. > >Ruthann Rives Hellemeyer > >--- On Tue, 6/2/09, Linda Kmiecik <tonky@royell.org> wrote: > > >From: Linda Kmiecik <tonky@royell.org> >Subject: [ILMACOUP] Trustees as Land Owner >To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com >Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 5:33 PM > > >Today at the Macoupin Co. Courthouse I looked for any deed to the >Virden Church of the Brethren, incorporated in 1912, which >apparently no one has ever had. I looked under "B" for Brethren and >Baptist, "C" for Church, "V" for Virden, and thought about "G" for >German Baptist Church. I noted several deeds between David C. >Vaniman and Trustees of the Church of the Brethren and Trustees of >the German Baptist Church for other lands. Surely, I thought, such >deeds would not be listed under "T" for Trustees! Wrong!!! I found >not only the deeds for the Virden Brethren church property in >Grantee Book 21, but noted many others for Trustees of Hettick >Church, I.O.O.F., Stults Burying Ground (Palmyra), churches in >Carlinville, Modesto, and elsewhere, school districts, banks, >companies, and many other entities. > >Thus, at least in this 1900-1920 period, it might be wise to look >under "T" for trustees of those groups. > >Linda Kmiecik > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I wasn't taking notes on anything but the Brethren Church deeds, but I sure did notice all the other trustee items. I looked at Grantee Books 20 and 21 only today, so if someone wants to pursue that, they should keep the book numbers in mind. Sorry. I also noticed a half page or so, located after some other initial letter (like "C", maybe") that was nothing but affidavits! Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruthann Hellemeyer" <suzeeq27@att.net> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Trustees as Land Owner Linda Did you find anything about Asbury Chuch or it's cemetery in rural Hettick? I haven't been able to find out who is really responsible for the cemetery other than the family that mows it for free. Ruthann Rives Hellemeyer --- On Tue, 6/2/09, Linda Kmiecik <tonky@royell.org> wrote: From: Linda Kmiecik <tonky@royell.org> Subject: [ILMACOUP] Trustees as Land Owner To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 5:33 PM Today at the Macoupin Co. Courthouse I looked for any deed to the Virden Church of the Brethren, incorporated in 1912, which apparently no one has ever had. I looked under "B" for Brethren and Baptist, "C" for Church, "V" for Virden, and thought about "G" for German Baptist Church. I noted several deeds between David C. Vaniman and Trustees of the Church of the Brethren and Trustees of the German Baptist Church for other lands. Surely, I thought, such deeds would not be listed under "T" for Trustees! Wrong!!! I found not only the deeds for the Virden Brethren church property in Grantee Book 21, but noted many others for Trustees of Hettick Church, I.O.O.F., Stults Burying Ground (Palmyra), churches in Carlinville, Modesto, and elsewhere, school districts, banks, companies, and many other entities. Thus, at least in this 1900-1920 period, it might be wise to look under "T" for trustees of those groups. Linda Kmiecik Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List and Dwayne I believe that Jesse Caudle built a Church in Macoupin Co. Ill 1830-1880. Jesse, Joshua, Isham, and Thomas Parish Caudle were very active in Churches in Wayne, Macoupin, and Greene Co Ill. Do you have any information about Jesse Church? Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dwayne Wrightsman" <dwayne55@comcast.net> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Trustees as Land Owner > Linda, > > That's great that you found the deed to the Virden CoB. Thank you for > bringing it to our attention. If the deed is not too long, could you > prepare a summary of the essential facts in the deed. > > My maternal great-grandfather, John H. Brubaker, was the first elder in > charge of the Virden church. His oldest son (my maternal grandfather), > Irvin J. Brubaker, was one of the early deacons. So was my paternal > grandfather, George W. Wrightsman. The Virden church was organized the > same > year (1912) that the West Otter Creek church closed. My paternal > grandmother's father, Javan Gibson, was elder in charge at that time. The > new Pleasant Hill book that your committee published a few years back has > a > 1912 photo (p. 352) of the West Otter Creek church with a number of > Brethren > in it, including my father, Okal Wrightsman, who was a tiny baby at the > time. He was held by his mother, Melva Wrightsman Gibson (daughter of > Javan > Gibson). > > Last year I wrote a book entitled SUGAR CREEK BRETHREN which follows the > Brethren who settled on the Banks of Sugar Creek in Auburn Township in > 1830 > when Isham Gibson (father of Javan) founded the congregation. It then > moves > on to the Otter Creek congregation in Macoupin County, also established by > Isham Gibson in the 1740s and even into the 1760s when the Pleasant Hill > group formed. Isham Gibson was kicked out of the Brethren in the late > 1760s > just as Pleasant Hill was taking off. He moved to Missouri shortly > thereafter and died. > > At one time the Otter Creek congregation included the satellite Brethren > groups at Pleasant Hill in Virden-Girard, the "new" Sugar Creek in Auburn, > Macoupin Creek over near Farmersville, and the Bear Creek group over in > Christian County. Probably the most interesting chapter in the book is > the > naming of all the early Brethren buried in the Thayer Cemetery behind > Maggie's Tavern. Most people do not know that this cemetery started out > as > a Brethren burial ground in 1833 on the farm of Elder John Dick. Yes, > this > is the same Dick family that the library in Carlinville is named after. > > If anyone wants to take a peek at my book, copies are at the Lincoln > Presidential Library in Springfield and in the local libraries in Virden > and > in Auburn. > > Dwayne Wrightsman > Lee, NH > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Linda Kmiecik > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 6:34 PM > To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ILMACOUP] Trustees as Land Owner > > Today at the Macoupin Co. Courthouse I looked for any deed to the Virden > Church of the Brethren, incorporated in 1912, which apparently no one has > ever had. I looked under "B" for Brethren and Baptist, "C" for Church, > "V" > for Virden, and thought about "G" for German Baptist Church. I noted > several deeds between David C. Vaniman and Trustees of the Church of the > Brethren and Trustees of the German Baptist Church for other lands. > Surely, > I thought, such deeds would not be listed under "T" for Trustees! > Wrong!!! > I found not only the deeds for the Virden Brethren church property in > Grantee Book 21, but noted many others for Trustees of Hettick Church, > I.O.O.F., Stults Burying Ground (Palmyra), churches in Carlinville, > Modesto, > and elsewhere, school districts, banks, companies, and many other > entities. > > Thus, at least in this 1900-1920 period, it might be wise to look under > "T" > for trustees of those groups. > > Linda Kmiecik > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Linda, That's great that you found the deed to the Virden CoB. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. If the deed is not too long, could you prepare a summary of the essential facts in the deed. My maternal great-grandfather, John H. Brubaker, was the first elder in charge of the Virden church. His oldest son (my maternal grandfather), Irvin J. Brubaker, was one of the early deacons. So was my paternal grandfather, George W. Wrightsman. The Virden church was organized the same year (1912) that the West Otter Creek church closed. My paternal grandmother's father, Javan Gibson, was elder in charge at that time. The new Pleasant Hill book that your committee published a few years back has a 1912 photo (p. 352) of the West Otter Creek church with a number of Brethren in it, including my father, Okal Wrightsman, who was a tiny baby at the time. He was held by his mother, Melva Wrightsman Gibson (daughter of Javan Gibson). Last year I wrote a book entitled SUGAR CREEK BRETHREN which follows the Brethren who settled on the Banks of Sugar Creek in Auburn Township in 1830 when Isham Gibson (father of Javan) founded the congregation. It then moves on to the Otter Creek congregation in Macoupin County, also established by Isham Gibson in the 1740s and even into the 1760s when the Pleasant Hill group formed. Isham Gibson was kicked out of the Brethren in the late 1760s just as Pleasant Hill was taking off. He moved to Missouri shortly thereafter and died. At one time the Otter Creek congregation included the satellite Brethren groups at Pleasant Hill in Virden-Girard, the "new" Sugar Creek in Auburn, Macoupin Creek over near Farmersville, and the Bear Creek group over in Christian County. Probably the most interesting chapter in the book is the naming of all the early Brethren buried in the Thayer Cemetery behind Maggie's Tavern. Most people do not know that this cemetery started out as a Brethren burial ground in 1833 on the farm of Elder John Dick. Yes, this is the same Dick family that the library in Carlinville is named after. If anyone wants to take a peek at my book, copies are at the Lincoln Presidential Library in Springfield and in the local libraries in Virden and in Auburn. Dwayne Wrightsman Lee, NH -----Original Message----- From: ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Kmiecik Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 6:34 PM To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILMACOUP] Trustees as Land Owner Today at the Macoupin Co. Courthouse I looked for any deed to the Virden Church of the Brethren, incorporated in 1912, which apparently no one has ever had. I looked under "B" for Brethren and Baptist, "C" for Church, "V" for Virden, and thought about "G" for German Baptist Church. I noted several deeds between David C. Vaniman and Trustees of the Church of the Brethren and Trustees of the German Baptist Church for other lands. Surely, I thought, such deeds would not be listed under "T" for Trustees! Wrong!!! I found not only the deeds for the Virden Brethren church property in Grantee Book 21, but noted many others for Trustees of Hettick Church, I.O.O.F., Stults Burying Ground (Palmyra), churches in Carlinville, Modesto, and elsewhere, school districts, banks, companies, and many other entities. Thus, at least in this 1900-1920 period, it might be wise to look under "T" for trustees of those groups. Linda Kmiecik Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Linda    Did you find anything about Asbury Chuch or it's cemetery in rural Hettick? I haven't been able to find out who is really responsible for the cemetery other than the family that mows it for free.    Ruthann Rives Hellemeyer --- On Tue, 6/2/09, Linda Kmiecik <tonky@royell.org> wrote: From: Linda Kmiecik <tonky@royell.org> Subject: [ILMACOUP] Trustees as Land Owner To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 5:33 PM Today at the Macoupin Co. Courthouse I looked for any deed to the Virden Church of the Brethren, incorporated in 1912, which apparently no one has ever had.  I looked under "B" for Brethren and Baptist, "C" for Church, "V" for Virden, and thought about "G" for German Baptist Church.  I noted several deeds between David C. Vaniman and Trustees of the Church of the Brethren and Trustees of the German Baptist Church for other lands.  Surely, I thought, such deeds would not be listed under "T" for Trustees!  Wrong!!!  I found not only the deeds for the Virden Brethren church property in Grantee Book 21, but noted many others for Trustees of Hettick Church, I.O.O.F., Stults Burying Ground (Palmyra), churches in Carlinville, Modesto, and elsewhere, school districts, banks, companies, and many other entities. Thus, at least in this 1900-1920 period, it might be wise to look under "T" for trustees of those groups. Linda Kmiecik Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message