There used to be an elderly gentleman that would come into the downtown bank for a couple of hours each day to "work". Don't know his position, but he was old and had a map that looked as old. I was there a few years ago, and he was able to locate my great-grandparents on the map. Priscilla Davis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jarid Ott" <jott@madisontelco.com> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Benld City and Bunker Hill Cemetery maps? >I just checked the Benld & Bunker Hill cemetery files and neither of them > have maps. > > Jarid > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Chuck & Cindy Leonard > Date: 7/5/2009 10:02:02 AM > To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Benld City and Bunker Hill Cemetery maps? > > I don't know if Jill Secoy or Jarid Ott would have any or not. > JLSecoy > E-mail Address(es): > jlsecoy1@hotmail.com > > Jarid Ott > E-mail Address(es): > jott@madisontelco.com > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "G Frazier" <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> > To: <ILMACOUP@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:54 AM > Subject: [ILMACOUP] Benld City and Bunker Hill Cemetery maps? > > >> Does anyone know of a stone map for Benld City and/or Bunker Hill > Cemeteries? >> ======================= >> I am looking for maps and locations for a couple family members in Benld >> Cemetery. >> Do you know where I could go for this? I am also working on Bunker >> Hill. I spoke to someone on the cemetery board who says there is only 1 >> big map on a wall in an office that they rarely visit. No maps to hand >> out. The library does have a listing of names and locations. I have >> several people there. I have driving in from St. Louis twice now and did >> alot of walking and have found several but still have many to find. >> Suggestions? >> Susan Ing >> ============= >> >> Gloria >> >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy > org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jan please excuse me for jumping in here. Is this the James Allen who was married to Jane Dodson that is being discussed here ? NB ---- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Miller" <jgrellim@sbcglobal.net> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > Gloria > I forgot to add it is: James Allen--2 Generations, his and both sons. 6 > pages including documentation. > Jan >

No I"m sorry to say. Wife was Delilah. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "nbilash2" <nbilash@windstream.net> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > Jan please excuse me for jumping in here. Is this the James Allen who was > married to Jane Dodson that is being discussed here ? > NB ---- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Miller" <jgrellim@sbcglobal.net> > To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 6:03 PM > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > > >> Gloria >> I forgot to add it is: James Allen--2 Generations, his and both sons. 6 >> pages including documentation. >> Jan >> > > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gloria I forgot to add it is: James Allen--2 Generations, his and both sons. 6 pages including documentation. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "G Frazier" <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > Sending your family info to the list would be great but it would have to > be > ON an email. Rootsweb will not allow attachments to go to any rootsweb > list. > > Gloria > <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> > > At 08:09 PM 7/2/2009, you wrote: >>That's probably a good thing. I thought about that after I sent it--would >>go to all in the list. >> >>But I don't have your email or your snail address :-)) >>Jan >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "G Frazier" <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> >>To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 4:46 PM >>Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman >> >> >> > Hi Jan, >> > >> > You can't send attachments on the maillist and I didn't see it printed >> > ON >> > the email. >> > >> > Send it to me personally. Thanks. I appreciate the information. >> > >> > Gloria >> > >> > At 11:37 AM 7/2/2009, you wrote: >> >>Dear Gloria: >> >>Every thing you say is right, Jenny. We are lucky to still have that >> >>source >> >>and that dedication. Until my husband's health halted my time for >> >>travel, my daughter and I have spent LOTS of time with the >> >>Allen's--both >> >>on >> >>line and in Salt Lake City. We used to go together with a group for a >> >>week >> >>at the Library. We were more novice genealogists at the time, but >> >>gaining >> >>skills rapidly. She finally threw up her hands and declared "no more >> >>Allen's", simply on sheer frustration. I have too on several >> >>occasions -- >> >>but I'm too much of an optimist to toss--I do bury, however--but it >> >>just >> >>keeps >> >>popping up regardless. >> >> >> >>I am sending Gloria a 4 page print-out of my research on my 2 earliest >> >>Allen generations. It is all my own research except for the noted ** >> >>areas >> >>which were sent to me. Because none of that information came with any >> >>documentation, I used lower case and asterisks to differentiate it in >> >>my >> >>own >> >>research. I've since lost contact with the donor, but I don't want to >> >>be >> >>responsible for passing information without permission. It does seem >> >>strange that with all the Allen's reposing in Macoupin County that >> >>Eveline >> >>Hall Allen's death record cannot be found, though her grave and obit >> >>are available. I so much need to know her parentage, because Hall is >> >>big in the area as well as Allen. She just pops from nowhere into that >> >>Allen household in 1850 and her death is just as silent and as >> >>mysterious. >> >>I have a photo that I think is surely Eveline, because the features are >> >>different than the Allen likenesses I've seen--and the time frame, hair >> >>and clothing are appropriate. It's bizarre to be IN then OUT so >> >>silently. >> >> >> >>In sending this, I'm hoping that within, there is a trigger-clue that >> >>those >> >>familiar with both the local Genie Society and County repository will >> >>provide an extra boost. Daughter and I have been fooling around with >> >>this >> >>as you can see for at least 10 years--off site. Maybe that's the >> >>reason. >> >>For a while Lula V. was helping me --she was my "bird-dog" on scene, >> >>responsible for both gravestone photo and obit, for which I am so >> >>grateful. >> >>I hope there's a kernel in it. I've done a lot of IL research because >> >>I >> >>have 3 Illinois Prairie Pioneer surnames: Joel BACON, Seth CHIPMAN >> >>and Henry MILLER. From James' sons, we have everything through >> >>Eveline's daughter Libby to the present. I only include 2nd >> >>generations >> >>here, however. I'm not good at forwarding, so I will copy and paste to >> >>is message. >> >> >> >>Report program won't permit copy/paste so I'm trying--export to Adobe. >> >>By George, I THINK I Have It. You'll be the first to know! >> >> >> >>Thanks for your interest, >> >>Jan >> >> >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >> >>From: "jenny burgin" <jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net> >> >>To: "'Jan Miller'" <jgrellim@sbcglobal.net>; <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> >> >>Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:32 PM >> >>Subject: RE: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman >> >> >> >> >> >> > Gail, Thank you very much for the information and I will forward to >> >> > Jan. I >> >> > just joined the list serve this last month and I personally have >> >> > been >> >> > extremely impressed and I think you all are very blessed to have >> >> > such a >> >> > great group of people who are so kind and "neighborly" on how >> >> > everyone >> >> > helps >> >> > each other out. I especially find the Macoupin group as great in >> >> > this >> >> > respect. Jan, I will check to see if I can see any connection to my >> >> > Allen's >> >> > and see if I can find any relationship. And I don't think you are a >> >> > buttinski but only try to be a good researcher. I have only been >> >> > doing >> >> > this >> >> > for about 2-3 yrs but one thing I have learned is that you find >> >> > clues >> >> > to >> >> > some piece of your tree in the weirdest places. Jenny >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >> > From: Jan Miller [mailto:jgrellim@sbcglobal.net] >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:04 AM >> >> > To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com >> >> > Cc: jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net >> >> > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman >> >> > >> >> > All, >> >> > I am interested in this surname, this time period and this location >> >> > between >> >> > Apple and Macoupin Creeks also. >> >> > I have a James and Delia [Davis] Allen and with all the Allen's that >> >> > are >> >> > possible, still have not been able to find >> >> > the exact date of James and Delia's arrival in the county, their >> >> > parents >> >> > or relatives--probably relatives. >> >> > >> >> > One of their 2 sons was my husband's great grandfather, but both >> >> > surnames >> >> > are so popular --as is the common given name--it is very hard to >> >> > sort, and my best information is James' birth date, which he gave >> >> > correctly on each subsequent census. >> >> > It was April 13, 1813 -- near Louisville, KY >> >> > >> >> > If this bears any similarity to the information you're referring to, >> >> > may I >> >> > ask to be copied as well. >> >> > I don't think"buttinsky"s are very considerate generally, but in the >> >> > case >> >> > of genealogy, maybe that can be softened a little? I apologize in >> >> > advance. >> >> > >> >> > I have filed my Allen data in the back of the cabinet so many times, >> >> > it's >> >> > getting frowsy. Thanks in advance! >> >> > Jan in California. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: "jenny burgin" <jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net> >> >> > To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:03 PM >> >> > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Gloria, I am also interested in Littleton Bradley Allen research >> >> >> page >> >> >> also. >> >> >> I have an Emily Allen daughter to Thomas Davis Allen. Could you >> >> >> please >> >> >> provide me the information on this page. Jenny Burgin >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> >> From: ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com >> >> >> [mailto:ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> >> >> On Behalf Of G Frazier >> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:58 PM >> >> >> To: ILMACOUP@rootsweb.com >> >> >> Subject: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman >> >> >> >> >> >> I gave Annie general information about the area and Littleton >> >> >> Bradley's >> >> >> Allen research page she requested but which didn't have any info >> >> >> about >> >> >> Uriah or Eliza. >> >> >> I am assuming Annie isn't on this maillist. If you have information >> >> >> on >> >> >> these people, PLEASE copy Annie if you reply to this maillist >> >> >> because >> >> >> if >> >> >> you only reply to this maillist, Annie won't get a copy of your >> >> >> msg. >> >> >> Thank >> >> >> you. >> >> >> Gloria >> >> >> ========= >> >> >> Annie wrote: >> >> >> "I am looking for information on Uriah Rocky Allen and family >> >> >> (Eliza >> >> >> Jane >> >> >> Coffman his wife) who resided on a farm between the Macoupin and >> >> >> Apple >> >> >> Creeks. Please tell me a little about the area, especially in the >> >> >> mid >> >> >> 1800's. Thank you! Annie O'Leary annieol@stx.rr.com >> >> >> 512-773-8056" >> >> >> >> >> >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >> >> >> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> >> ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> >> >> the >> >> >> quotes >> >> >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >> >> >> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> >> ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> >> >> the >> >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > >> >> >> >>Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >> >>http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >> >>------------------------------- >> >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >> > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >>Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >>http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gloria What surnames are being searched for in Bunker Hill Cemetery?  My grandfather was the caretaker of the cemetery back in the 1950's and I often walked the cemetery when he was there and have walked it many times since.  I may recognize the names and be able to tell where the lots are. I inquired about the map several years ago from one of the board members and was told the same story.  In the past year or so, one board member died, one lost her husband and the other is in poor health from what I understand too.  I have no idea who they got to replace the deceased member, but know that the other two board members are in their 80's.  One lives just down the road from my mother.  I told the librarian several years ago that they should try to get a copy of the map for use in the genealogy area since the listing of burials provides the lots and would save phone calls to the board members as well as giving people an idea as to where to go when they leave the library.  I guess either the board members didn't approve it or were not approached with the request.  I just may call the one board member and see if she can help get a copy of the map to the library.  If not, perhaps I can get approval to go to the office and draw up something which can be placed at the library. Debbi --- On Sun, 7/5/09, G Frazier <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> wrote: From: G Frazier <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> Subject: [ILMACOUP] Benld City and Bunker Hill Cemetery maps? To: ILMACOUP@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 8:54 AM Does anyone know of a stone map for Benld City and/or Bunker Hill Cemeteries? ======================= I am looking for maps and locations for a couple family members in Benld Cemetery. Do you know where I could go for this?  I am also working on Bunker Hill.  I spoke to someone on the cemetery board who says there is only 1 big map on a wall in an office that they rarely visit.  No maps to hand out.  The library does have a listing of names and locations.  I have several people there.  I have driving in from St. Louis twice now and did alot of walking and have found several but still have many to find. Suggestions? Susan Ing ============= Gloria Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I really don't want it to go out to the complete list because I don't have permission from some who gave me information. I would prefer it go to you, and you can use the information appropriately. Can I mail it to the Society address in care of you? Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "G Frazier" <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > Sending your family info to the list would be great but it would have to > be > ON an email. Rootsweb will not allow attachments to go to any rootsweb > list. > > Gloria > <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> > > At 08:09 PM 7/2/2009, you wrote: >>That's probably a good thing. I thought about that after I sent it--would >>go to all in the list. >> >>But I don't have your email or your snail address :-)) >>Jan >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "G Frazier" <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> >>To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 4:46 PM >>Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman >> >> >> > Hi Jan, >> > >> > You can't send attachments on the maillist and I didn't see it printed >> > ON >> > the email. >> > >> > Send it to me personally. Thanks. I appreciate the information. >> > >> > Gloria >> > >> > At 11:37 AM 7/2/2009, you wrote: >> >>Dear Gloria: >> >>Every thing you say is right, Jenny. We are lucky to still have that >> >>source >> >>and that dedication. Until my husband's health halted my time for >> >>travel, my daughter and I have spent LOTS of time with the >> >>Allen's--both >> >>on >> >>line and in Salt Lake City. We used to go together with a group for a >> >>week >> >>at the Library. We were more novice genealogists at the time, but >> >>gaining >> >>skills rapidly. She finally threw up her hands and declared "no more >> >>Allen's", simply on sheer frustration. I have too on several >> >>occasions -- >> >>but I'm too much of an optimist to toss--I do bury, however--but it >> >>just >> >>keeps >> >>popping up regardless. >> >> >> >>I am sending Gloria a 4 page print-out of my research on my 2 earliest >> >>Allen generations. It is all my own research except for the noted ** >> >>areas >> >>which were sent to me. Because none of that information came with any >> >>documentation, I used lower case and asterisks to differentiate it in >> >>my >> >>own >> >>research. I've since lost contact with the donor, but I don't want to >> >>be >> >>responsible for passing information without permission. It does seem >> >>strange that with all the Allen's reposing in Macoupin County that >> >>Eveline >> >>Hall Allen's death record cannot be found, though her grave and obit >> >>are available. I so much need to know her parentage, because Hall is >> >>big in the area as well as Allen. She just pops from nowhere into that >> >>Allen household in 1850 and her death is just as silent and as >> >>mysterious. >> >>I have a photo that I think is surely Eveline, because the features are >> >>different than the Allen likenesses I've seen--and the time frame, hair >> >>and clothing are appropriate. It's bizarre to be IN then OUT so >> >>silently. >> >> >> >>In sending this, I'm hoping that within, there is a trigger-clue that >> >>those >> >>familiar with both the local Genie Society and County repository will >> >>provide an extra boost. Daughter and I have been fooling around with >> >>this >> >>as you can see for at least 10 years--off site. Maybe that's the >> >>reason. >> >>For a while Lula V. was helping me --she was my "bird-dog" on scene, >> >>responsible for both gravestone photo and obit, for which I am so >> >>grateful. >> >>I hope there's a kernel in it. I've done a lot of IL research because >> >>I >> >>have 3 Illinois Prairie Pioneer surnames: Joel BACON, Seth CHIPMAN >> >>and Henry MILLER. From James' sons, we have everything through >> >>Eveline's daughter Libby to the present. I only include 2nd >> >>generations >> >>here, however. I'm not good at forwarding, so I will copy and paste to >> >>is message. >> >> >> >>Report program won't permit copy/paste so I'm trying--export to Adobe. >> >>By George, I THINK I Have It. You'll be the first to know! >> >> >> >>Thanks for your interest, >> >>Jan >> >> >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >> >>From: "jenny burgin" <jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net> >> >>To: "'Jan Miller'" <jgrellim@sbcglobal.net>; <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> >> >>Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:32 PM >> >>Subject: RE: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman >> >> >> >> >> >> > Gail, Thank you very much for the information and I will forward to >> >> > Jan. I >> >> > just joined the list serve this last month and I personally have >> >> > been >> >> > extremely impressed and I think you all are very blessed to have >> >> > such a >> >> > great group of people who are so kind and "neighborly" on how >> >> > everyone >> >> > helps >> >> > each other out. I especially find the Macoupin group as great in >> >> > this >> >> > respect. Jan, I will check to see if I can see any connection to my >> >> > Allen's >> >> > and see if I can find any relationship. And I don't think you are a >> >> > buttinski but only try to be a good researcher. I have only been >> >> > doing >> >> > this >> >> > for about 2-3 yrs but one thing I have learned is that you find >> >> > clues >> >> > to >> >> > some piece of your tree in the weirdest places. Jenny >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >> > From: Jan Miller [mailto:jgrellim@sbcglobal.net] >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:04 AM >> >> > To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com >> >> > Cc: jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net >> >> > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman >> >> > >> >> > All, >> >> > I am interested in this surname, this time period and this location >> >> > between >> >> > Apple and Macoupin Creeks also. >> >> > I have a James and Delia [Davis] Allen and with all the Allen's that >> >> > are >> >> > possible, still have not been able to find >> >> > the exact date of James and Delia's arrival in the county, their >> >> > parents >> >> > or relatives--probably relatives. >> >> > >> >> > One of their 2 sons was my husband's great grandfather, but both >> >> > surnames >> >> > are so popular --as is the common given name--it is very hard to >> >> > sort, and my best information is James' birth date, which he gave >> >> > correctly on each subsequent census. >> >> > It was April 13, 1813 -- near Louisville, KY >> >> > >> >> > If this bears any similarity to the information you're referring to, >> >> > may I >> >> > ask to be copied as well. >> >> > I don't think"buttinsky"s are very considerate generally, but in the >> >> > case >> >> > of genealogy, maybe that can be softened a little? I apologize in >> >> > advance. >> >> > >> >> > I have filed my Allen data in the back of the cabinet so many times, >> >> > it's >> >> > getting frowsy. Thanks in advance! >> >> > Jan in California. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: "jenny burgin" <jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net> >> >> > To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:03 PM >> >> > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Gloria, I am also interested in Littleton Bradley Allen research >> >> >> page >> >> >> also. >> >> >> I have an Emily Allen daughter to Thomas Davis Allen. Could you >> >> >> please >> >> >> provide me the information on this page. Jenny Burgin >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> >> From: ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com >> >> >> [mailto:ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> >> >> On Behalf Of G Frazier >> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:58 PM >> >> >> To: ILMACOUP@rootsweb.com >> >> >> Subject: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman >> >> >> >> >> >> I gave Annie general information about the area and Littleton >> >> >> Bradley's >> >> >> Allen research page she requested but which didn't have any info >> >> >> about >> >> >> Uriah or Eliza. >> >> >> I am assuming Annie isn't on this maillist. If you have information >> >> >> on >> >> >> these people, PLEASE copy Annie if you reply to this maillist >> >> >> because >> >> >> if >> >> >> you only reply to this maillist, Annie won't get a copy of your >> >> >> msg. >> >> >> Thank >> >> >> you. >> >> >> Gloria >> >> >> ========= >> >> >> Annie wrote: >> >> >> "I am looking for information on Uriah Rocky Allen and family >> >> >> (Eliza >> >> >> Jane >> >> >> Coffman his wife) who resided on a farm between the Macoupin and >> >> >> Apple >> >> >> Creeks. Please tell me a little about the area, especially in the >> >> >> mid >> >> >> 1800's. Thank you! Annie O'Leary annieol@stx.rr.com >> >> >> 512-773-8056" >> >> >> >> >> >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >> >> >> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> >> ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> >> >> the >> >> >> quotes >> >> >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >> >> >> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> >> ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> >> >> the >> >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > >> >> >> >>Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >> >>http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >> >>------------------------------- >> >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >> > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >>Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >>http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just checked the Benld & Bunker Hill cemetery files and neither of them have maps. Jarid -------Original Message------- From: Chuck & Cindy Leonard Date: 7/5/2009 10:02:02 AM To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Benld City and Bunker Hill Cemetery maps? I don't know if Jill Secoy or Jarid Ott would have any or not. JLSecoy E-mail Address(es): jlsecoy1@hotmail.com Jarid Ott E-mail Address(es): jott@madisontelco.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "G Frazier" <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> To: <ILMACOUP@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: [ILMACOUP] Benld City and Bunker Hill Cemetery maps? > Does anyone know of a stone map for Benld City and/or Bunker Hill Cemeteries? > ======================= > I am looking for maps and locations for a couple family members in Benld > Cemetery. > Do you know where I could go for this? I am also working on Bunker > Hill. I spoke to someone on the cemetery board who says there is only 1 > big map on a wall in an office that they rarely visit. No maps to hand > out. The library does have a listing of names and locations. I have > several people there. I have driving in from St. Louis twice now and did > alot of walking and have found several but still have many to find. > Suggestions? > Susan Ing > ============= > > Gloria > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't know if Jill Secoy or Jarid Ott would have any or not. JLSecoy E-mail Address(es): jlsecoy1@hotmail.com Jarid Ott E-mail Address(es): jott@madisontelco.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "G Frazier" <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> To: <ILMACOUP@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: [ILMACOUP] Benld City and Bunker Hill Cemetery maps? > Does anyone know of a stone map for Benld City and/or Bunker Hill Cemeteries? > ======================= > I am looking for maps and locations for a couple family members in Benld > Cemetery. > Do you know where I could go for this? I am also working on Bunker > Hill. I spoke to someone on the cemetery board who says there is only 1 > big map on a wall in an office that they rarely visit. No maps to hand > out. The library does have a listing of names and locations. I have > several people there. I have driving in from St. Louis twice now and did > alot of walking and have found several but still have many to find. > Suggestions? > Susan Ing > ============= > > Gloria > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sending your family info to the list would be great but it would have to be ON an email. Rootsweb will not allow attachments to go to any rootsweb list. Gloria <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> At 08:09 PM 7/2/2009, you wrote: >That's probably a good thing. I thought about that after I sent it--would >go to all in the list. > >But I don't have your email or your snail address :-)) >Jan > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "G Frazier" <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> >To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 4:46 PM >Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > > > > Hi Jan, > > > > You can't send attachments on the maillist and I didn't see it printed ON > > the email. > > > > Send it to me personally. Thanks. I appreciate the information. > > > > Gloria > > > > At 11:37 AM 7/2/2009, you wrote: > >>Dear Gloria: > >>Every thing you say is right, Jenny. We are lucky to still have that > >>source > >>and that dedication. Until my husband's health halted my time for > >>travel, my daughter and I have spent LOTS of time with the Allen's--both > >>on > >>line and in Salt Lake City. We used to go together with a group for a > >>week > >>at the Library. We were more novice genealogists at the time, but gaining > >>skills rapidly. She finally threw up her hands and declared "no more > >>Allen's", simply on sheer frustration. I have too on several occasions -- > >>but I'm too much of an optimist to toss--I do bury, however--but it just > >>keeps > >>popping up regardless. > >> > >>I am sending Gloria a 4 page print-out of my research on my 2 earliest > >>Allen generations. It is all my own research except for the noted ** > >>areas > >>which were sent to me. Because none of that information came with any > >>documentation, I used lower case and asterisks to differentiate it in my > >>own > >>research. I've since lost contact with the donor, but I don't want to be > >>responsible for passing information without permission. It does seem > >>strange that with all the Allen's reposing in Macoupin County that Eveline > >>Hall Allen's death record cannot be found, though her grave and obit > >>are available. I so much need to know her parentage, because Hall is > >>big in the area as well as Allen. She just pops from nowhere into that > >>Allen household in 1850 and her death is just as silent and as mysterious. > >>I have a photo that I think is surely Eveline, because the features are > >>different than the Allen likenesses I've seen--and the time frame, hair > >>and clothing are appropriate. It's bizarre to be IN then OUT so silently. > >> > >>In sending this, I'm hoping that within, there is a trigger-clue that > >>those > >>familiar with both the local Genie Society and County repository will > >>provide an extra boost. Daughter and I have been fooling around with > >>this > >>as you can see for at least 10 years--off site. Maybe that's the reason. > >>For a while Lula V. was helping me --she was my "bird-dog" on scene, > >>responsible for both gravestone photo and obit, for which I am so > >>grateful. > >>I hope there's a kernel in it. I've done a lot of IL research because I > >>have 3 Illinois Prairie Pioneer surnames: Joel BACON, Seth CHIPMAN > >>and Henry MILLER. From James' sons, we have everything through > >>Eveline's daughter Libby to the present. I only include 2nd generations > >>here, however. I'm not good at forwarding, so I will copy and paste to > >>is message. > >> > >>Report program won't permit copy/paste so I'm trying--export to Adobe. > >>By George, I THINK I Have It. You'll be the first to know! > >> > >>Thanks for your interest, > >>Jan > >> > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "jenny burgin" <jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net> > >>To: "'Jan Miller'" <jgrellim@sbcglobal.net>; <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> > >>Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:32 PM > >>Subject: RE: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > >> > >> > >> > Gail, Thank you very much for the information and I will forward to > >> > Jan. I > >> > just joined the list serve this last month and I personally have been > >> > extremely impressed and I think you all are very blessed to have such a > >> > great group of people who are so kind and "neighborly" on how everyone > >> > helps > >> > each other out. I especially find the Macoupin group as great in this > >> > respect. Jan, I will check to see if I can see any connection to my > >> > Allen's > >> > and see if I can find any relationship. And I don't think you are a > >> > buttinski but only try to be a good researcher. I have only been doing > >> > this > >> > for about 2-3 yrs but one thing I have learned is that you find clues > >> > to > >> > some piece of your tree in the weirdest places. Jenny > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: Jan Miller [mailto:jgrellim@sbcglobal.net] > >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:04 AM > >> > To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com > >> > Cc: jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net > >> > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > >> > > >> > All, > >> > I am interested in this surname, this time period and this location > >> > between > >> > Apple and Macoupin Creeks also. > >> > I have a James and Delia [Davis] Allen and with all the Allen's that > >> > are > >> > possible, still have not been able to find > >> > the exact date of James and Delia's arrival in the county, their > >> > parents > >> > or relatives--probably relatives. > >> > > >> > One of their 2 sons was my husband's great grandfather, but both > >> > surnames > >> > are so popular --as is the common given name--it is very hard to > >> > sort, and my best information is James' birth date, which he gave > >> > correctly on each subsequent census. > >> > It was April 13, 1813 -- near Louisville, KY > >> > > >> > If this bears any similarity to the information you're referring to, > >> > may I > >> > ask to be copied as well. > >> > I don't think"buttinsky"s are very considerate generally, but in the > >> > case > >> > of genealogy, maybe that can be softened a little? I apologize in > >> > advance. > >> > > >> > I have filed my Allen data in the back of the cabinet so many times, > >> > it's > >> > getting frowsy. Thanks in advance! > >> > Jan in California. > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "jenny burgin" <jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net> > >> > To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:03 PM > >> > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > >> > > >> > > >> >> Gloria, I am also interested in Littleton Bradley Allen research page > >> >> also. > >> >> I have an Emily Allen daughter to Thomas Davis Allen. Could you > >> >> please > >> >> provide me the information on this page. Jenny Burgin > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> From: ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com > >> >> [mailto:ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com] > >> >> On Behalf Of G Frazier > >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:58 PM > >> >> To: ILMACOUP@rootsweb.com > >> >> Subject: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > >> >> > >> >> I gave Annie general information about the area and Littleton > >> >> Bradley's > >> >> Allen research page she requested but which didn't have any info about > >> >> Uriah or Eliza. > >> >> I am assuming Annie isn't on this maillist. If you have information on > >> >> these people, PLEASE copy Annie if you reply to this maillist because > >> >> if > >> >> you only reply to this maillist, Annie won't get a copy of your msg. > >> >> Thank > >> >> you. > >> >> Gloria > >> >> ========= > >> >> Annie wrote: > >> >> "I am looking for information on Uriah Rocky Allen and family (Eliza > >> >> Jane > >> >> Coffman his wife) who resided on a farm between the Macoupin and Apple > >> >> Creeks. Please tell me a little about the area, especially in the > >> >> mid > >> >> 1800's. Thank you! Annie O'Leary annieol@stx.rr.com > >> >> 512-773-8056" > >> >> > >> >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > >> >> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > >> >> ------------------------------- > >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> >> ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> >> quotes > >> >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > >> >> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > >> >> ------------------------------- > >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> >> ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > >>Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > >>http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > >>------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone know of a stone map for Benld City and/or Bunker Hill Cemeteries? ======================= I am looking for maps and locations for a couple family members in Benld Cemetery. Do you know where I could go for this? I am also working on Bunker Hill. I spoke to someone on the cemetery board who says there is only 1 big map on a wall in an office that they rarely visit. No maps to hand out. The library does have a listing of names and locations. I have several people there. I have driving in from St. Louis twice now and did alot of walking and have found several but still have many to find. Suggestions? Susan Ing ============= Gloria

Dee, your great grandmother's youngest sister was my mother's great grandmother! I hope you can find the obits--have you ever seen them? Jean

G Frazier <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> Thank you. If it is in text or Word or pdf, I can put it on the Macoupin site and let the maillist where the file is located. Gloria At 08:09 PM 7/2/2009, you wrote: >That's probably a good thing. I thought about that after I sent it--would >go to all in the list. > >But I don't have your email or your snail address :-)) >Jan > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "G Frazier" <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> >To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 4:46 PM >Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > > > > Hi Jan, > > > > You can't send attachments on the maillist and I didn't see it printed ON > > the email. > > > > Send it to me personally. Thanks. I appreciate the information. > > > > Gloria > > > > At 11:37 AM 7/2/2009, you wrote: > >>Dear Gloria: > >>Every thing you say is right, Jenny. We are lucky to still have that > >>source > >>and that dedication. Until my husband's health halted my time for > >>travel, my daughter and I have spent LOTS of time with the Allen's--both > >>on > >>line and in Salt Lake City. We used to go together with a group for a > >>week > >>at the Library. We were more novice genealogists at the time, but gaining > >>skills rapidly. She finally threw up her hands and declared "no more > >>Allen's", simply on sheer frustration. I have too on several occasions -- > >>but I'm too much of an optimist to toss--I do bury, however--but it just > >>keeps > >>popping up regardless. > >> > >>I am sending Gloria a 4 page print-out of my research on my 2 earliest > >>Allen generations. It is all my own research except for the noted ** > >>areas > >>which were sent to me. Because none of that information came with any > >>documentation, I used lower case and asterisks to differentiate it in my > >>own > >>research. I've since lost contact with the donor, but I don't want to be > >>responsible for passing information without permission. It does seem > >>strange that with all the Allen's reposing in Macoupin County that Eveline > >>Hall Allen's death record cannot be found, though her grave and obit > >>are available. I so much need to know her parentage, because Hall is > >>big in the area as well as Allen. She just pops from nowhere into that > >>Allen household in 1850 and her death is just as silent and as mysterious. > >>I have a photo that I think is surely Eveline, because the features are > >>different than the Allen likenesses I've seen--and the time frame, hair > >>and clothing are appropriate. It's bizarre to be IN then OUT so silently. > >> > >>In sending this, I'm hoping that within, there is a trigger-clue that > >>those > >>familiar with both the local Genie Society and County repository will > >>provide an extra boost. Daughter and I have been fooling around with > >>this > >>as you can see for at least 10 years--off site. Maybe that's the reason. > >>For a while Lula V. was helping me --she was my "bird-dog" on scene, > >>responsible for both gravestone photo and obit, for which I am so > >>grateful. > >>I hope there's a kernel in it. I've done a lot of IL research because I > >>have 3 Illinois Prairie Pioneer surnames: Joel BACON, Seth CHIPMAN > >>and Henry MILLER. From James' sons, we have everything through > >>Eveline's daughter Libby to the present. I only include 2nd generations > >>here, however. I'm not good at forwarding, so I will copy and paste to > >>is message. > >> > >>Report program won't permit copy/paste so I'm trying--export to Adobe. > >>By George, I THINK I Have It. You'll be the first to know! > >> > >>Thanks for your interest, > >>Jan > >> > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "jenny burgin" <jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net> > >>To: "'Jan Miller'" <jgrellim@sbcglobal.net>; <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> > >>Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:32 PM > >>Subject: RE: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > >> > >> > >> > Gail, Thank you very much for the information and I will forward to > >> > Jan. I > >> > just joined the list serve this last month and I personally have been > >> > extremely impressed and I think you all are very blessed to have such a > >> > great group of people who are so kind and "neighborly" on how everyone > >> > helps > >> > each other out. I especially find the Macoupin group as great in this > >> > respect. Jan, I will check to see if I can see any connection to my > >> > Allen's > >> > and see if I can find any relationship. And I don't think you are a > >> > buttinski but only try to be a good researcher. I have only been doing > >> > this > >> > for about 2-3 yrs but one thing I have learned is that you find clues > >> > to > >> > some piece of your tree in the weirdest places. Jenny > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: Jan Miller [mailto:jgrellim@sbcglobal.net] > >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:04 AM > >> > To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com > >> > Cc: jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net > >> > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > >> > > >> > All, > >> > I am interested in this surname, this time period and this location > >> > between > >> > Apple and Macoupin Creeks also. > >> > I have a James and Delia [Davis] Allen and with all the Allen's that > >> > are > >> > possible, still have not been able to find > >> > the exact date of James and Delia's arrival in the county, their > >> > parents > >> > or relatives--probably relatives. > >> > > >> > One of their 2 sons was my husband's great grandfather, but both > >> > surnames > >> > are so popular --as is the common given name--it is very hard to > >> > sort, and my best information is James' birth date, which he gave > >> > correctly on each subsequent census. > >> > It was April 13, 1813 -- near Louisville, KY > >> > > >> > If this bears any similarity to the information you're referring to, > >> > may I > >> > ask to be copied as well. > >> > I don't think"buttinsky"s are very considerate generally, but in the > >> > case > >> > of genealogy, maybe that can be softened a little? I apologize in > >> > advance. > >> > > >> > I have filed my Allen data in the back of the cabinet so many times, > >> > it's > >> > getting frowsy. Thanks in advance! > >> > Jan in California. > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "jenny burgin" <jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net> > >> > To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:03 PM > >> > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > >> > > >> > > >> >> Gloria, I am also interested in Littleton Bradley Allen research page > >> >> also. > >> >> I have an Emily Allen daughter to Thomas Davis Allen. Could you > >> >> please > >> >> provide me the information on this page. Jenny Burgin > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> From: ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com > >> >> [mailto:ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com] > >> >> On Behalf Of G Frazier > >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:58 PM > >> >> To: ILMACOUP@rootsweb.com > >> >> Subject: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > >> >> > >> >> I gave Annie general information about the area and Littleton > >> >> Bradley's > >> >> Allen research page she requested but which didn't have any info about > >> >> Uriah or Eliza. > >> >> I am assuming Annie isn't on this maillist. If you have information on > >> >> these people, PLEASE copy Annie if you reply to this maillist because > >> >> if > >> >> you only reply to this maillist, Annie won't get a copy of your msg. > >> >> Thank > >> >> you. > >> >> Gloria > >> >> ========= > >> >> Annie wrote: > >> >> "I am looking for information on Uriah Rocky Allen and family (Eliza > >> >> Jane > >> >> Coffman his wife) who resided on a farm between the Macoupin and Apple > >> >> Creeks. Please tell me a little about the area, especially in the > >> >> mid > >> >> 1800's. Thank you! Annie O'Leary annieol@stx.rr.com > >> >> 512-773-8056" > >> >> > >> >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > >> >> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > >> >> ------------------------------- > >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> >> ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> >> quotes > >> >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > >> >> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > >> >> ------------------------------- > >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> >> ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > >>Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > >>http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > >>------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jan, You can't send attachments on the maillist and I didn't see it printed ON the email. Send it to me personally. Thanks. I appreciate the information. Gloria At 11:37 AM 7/2/2009, you wrote: >Dear Gloria: >Every thing you say is right, Jenny. We are lucky to still have that source >and that dedication. Until my husband's health halted my time for >travel, my daughter and I have spent LOTS of time with the Allen's--both on >line and in Salt Lake City. We used to go together with a group for a week >at the Library. We were more novice genealogists at the time, but gaining >skills rapidly. She finally threw up her hands and declared "no more >Allen's", simply on sheer frustration. I have too on several occasions -- >but I'm too much of an optimist to toss--I do bury, however--but it just >keeps >popping up regardless. > >I am sending Gloria a 4 page print-out of my research on my 2 earliest >Allen generations. It is all my own research except for the noted ** areas >which were sent to me. Because none of that information came with any >documentation, I used lower case and asterisks to differentiate it in my >own >research. I've since lost contact with the donor, but I don't want to be >responsible for passing information without permission. It does seem >strange that with all the Allen's reposing in Macoupin County that Eveline >Hall Allen's death record cannot be found, though her grave and obit >are available. I so much need to know her parentage, because Hall is >big in the area as well as Allen. She just pops from nowhere into that >Allen household in 1850 and her death is just as silent and as mysterious. >I have a photo that I think is surely Eveline, because the features are >different than the Allen likenesses I've seen--and the time frame, hair >and clothing are appropriate. It's bizarre to be IN then OUT so silently. > >In sending this, I'm hoping that within, there is a trigger-clue that those >familiar with both the local Genie Society and County repository will >provide an extra boost. Daughter and I have been fooling around with this >as you can see for at least 10 years--off site. Maybe that's the reason. >For a while Lula V. was helping me --she was my "bird-dog" on scene, >responsible for both gravestone photo and obit, for which I am so grateful. >I hope there's a kernel in it. I've done a lot of IL research because I >have 3 Illinois Prairie Pioneer surnames: Joel BACON, Seth CHIPMAN >and Henry MILLER. From James' sons, we have everything through >Eveline's daughter Libby to the present. I only include 2nd generations >here, however. I'm not good at forwarding, so I will copy and paste to >is message. > >Report program won't permit copy/paste so I'm trying--export to Adobe. >By George, I THINK I Have It. You'll be the first to know! > >Thanks for your interest, >Jan > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "jenny burgin" <jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net> >To: "'Jan Miller'" <jgrellim@sbcglobal.net>; <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:32 PM >Subject: RE: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > > > > Gail, Thank you very much for the information and I will forward to Jan. I > > just joined the list serve this last month and I personally have been > > extremely impressed and I think you all are very blessed to have such a > > great group of people who are so kind and "neighborly" on how everyone > > helps > > each other out. I especially find the Macoupin group as great in this > > respect. Jan, I will check to see if I can see any connection to my > > Allen's > > and see if I can find any relationship. And I don't think you are a > > buttinski but only try to be a good researcher. I have only been doing > > this > > for about 2-3 yrs but one thing I have learned is that you find clues to > > some piece of your tree in the weirdest places. Jenny > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jan Miller [mailto:jgrellim@sbcglobal.net] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:04 AM > > To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com > > Cc: jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net > > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > > > > All, > > I am interested in this surname, this time period and this location > > between > > Apple and Macoupin Creeks also. > > I have a James and Delia [Davis] Allen and with all the Allen's that are > > possible, still have not been able to find > > the exact date of James and Delia's arrival in the county, their parents > > or relatives--probably relatives. > > > > One of their 2 sons was my husband's great grandfather, but both surnames > > are so popular --as is the common given name--it is very hard to > > sort, and my best information is James' birth date, which he gave > > correctly on each subsequent census. > > It was April 13, 1813 -- near Louisville, KY > > > > If this bears any similarity to the information you're referring to, may I > > ask to be copied as well. > > I don't think"buttinsky"s are very considerate generally, but in the case > > of genealogy, maybe that can be softened a little? I apologize in advance. > > > > I have filed my Allen data in the back of the cabinet so many times, it's > > getting frowsy. Thanks in advance! > > Jan in California. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "jenny burgin" <jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net> > > To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:03 PM > > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > > > > > >> Gloria, I am also interested in Littleton Bradley Allen research page > >> also. > >> I have an Emily Allen daughter to Thomas Davis Allen. Could you please > >> provide me the information on this page. Jenny Burgin > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com > >> [mailto:ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com] > >> On Behalf Of G Frazier > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:58 PM > >> To: ILMACOUP@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > >> > >> I gave Annie general information about the area and Littleton Bradley's > >> Allen research page she requested but which didn't have any info about > >> Uriah or Eliza. > >> I am assuming Annie isn't on this maillist. If you have information on > >> these people, PLEASE copy Annie if you reply to this maillist because if > >> you only reply to this maillist, Annie won't get a copy of your msg. > >> Thank > >> you. > >> Gloria > >> ========= > >> Annie wrote: > >> "I am looking for information on Uriah Rocky Allen and family (Eliza Jane > >> Coffman his wife) who resided on a farm between the Macoupin and Apple > >> Creeks. Please tell me a little about the area, especially in the mid > >> 1800's. Thank you! Annie O'Leary annieol@stx.rr.com > >> 512-773-8056" > >> > >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > >> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > >> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That's probably a good thing. I thought about that after I sent it--would go to all in the list. But I don't have your email or your snail address :-)) Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "G Frazier" <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > Hi Jan, > > You can't send attachments on the maillist and I didn't see it printed ON > the email. > > Send it to me personally. Thanks. I appreciate the information. > > Gloria > > At 11:37 AM 7/2/2009, you wrote: >>Dear Gloria: >>Every thing you say is right, Jenny. We are lucky to still have that >>source >>and that dedication. Until my husband's health halted my time for >>travel, my daughter and I have spent LOTS of time with the Allen's--both >>on >>line and in Salt Lake City. We used to go together with a group for a >>week >>at the Library. We were more novice genealogists at the time, but gaining >>skills rapidly. She finally threw up her hands and declared "no more >>Allen's", simply on sheer frustration. I have too on several occasions -- >>but I'm too much of an optimist to toss--I do bury, however--but it just >>keeps >>popping up regardless. >> >>I am sending Gloria a 4 page print-out of my research on my 2 earliest >>Allen generations. It is all my own research except for the noted ** >>areas >>which were sent to me. Because none of that information came with any >>documentation, I used lower case and asterisks to differentiate it in my >>own >>research. I've since lost contact with the donor, but I don't want to be >>responsible for passing information without permission. It does seem >>strange that with all the Allen's reposing in Macoupin County that Eveline >>Hall Allen's death record cannot be found, though her grave and obit >>are available. I so much need to know her parentage, because Hall is >>big in the area as well as Allen. She just pops from nowhere into that >>Allen household in 1850 and her death is just as silent and as mysterious. >>I have a photo that I think is surely Eveline, because the features are >>different than the Allen likenesses I've seen--and the time frame, hair >>and clothing are appropriate. It's bizarre to be IN then OUT so silently. >> >>In sending this, I'm hoping that within, there is a trigger-clue that >>those >>familiar with both the local Genie Society and County repository will >>provide an extra boost. Daughter and I have been fooling around with >>this >>as you can see for at least 10 years--off site. Maybe that's the reason. >>For a while Lula V. was helping me --she was my "bird-dog" on scene, >>responsible for both gravestone photo and obit, for which I am so >>grateful. >>I hope there's a kernel in it. I've done a lot of IL research because I >>have 3 Illinois Prairie Pioneer surnames: Joel BACON, Seth CHIPMAN >>and Henry MILLER. From James' sons, we have everything through >>Eveline's daughter Libby to the present. I only include 2nd generations >>here, however. I'm not good at forwarding, so I will copy and paste to >>is message. >> >>Report program won't permit copy/paste so I'm trying--export to Adobe. >>By George, I THINK I Have It. You'll be the first to know! >> >>Thanks for your interest, >>Jan >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "jenny burgin" <jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net> >>To: "'Jan Miller'" <jgrellim@sbcglobal.net>; <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:32 PM >>Subject: RE: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman >> >> >> > Gail, Thank you very much for the information and I will forward to >> > Jan. I >> > just joined the list serve this last month and I personally have been >> > extremely impressed and I think you all are very blessed to have such a >> > great group of people who are so kind and "neighborly" on how everyone >> > helps >> > each other out. I especially find the Macoupin group as great in this >> > respect. Jan, I will check to see if I can see any connection to my >> > Allen's >> > and see if I can find any relationship. And I don't think you are a >> > buttinski but only try to be a good researcher. I have only been doing >> > this >> > for about 2-3 yrs but one thing I have learned is that you find clues >> > to >> > some piece of your tree in the weirdest places. Jenny >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Jan Miller [mailto:jgrellim@sbcglobal.net] >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:04 AM >> > To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com >> > Cc: jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net >> > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman >> > >> > All, >> > I am interested in this surname, this time period and this location >> > between >> > Apple and Macoupin Creeks also. >> > I have a James and Delia [Davis] Allen and with all the Allen's that >> > are >> > possible, still have not been able to find >> > the exact date of James and Delia's arrival in the county, their >> > parents >> > or relatives--probably relatives. >> > >> > One of their 2 sons was my husband's great grandfather, but both >> > surnames >> > are so popular --as is the common given name--it is very hard to >> > sort, and my best information is James' birth date, which he gave >> > correctly on each subsequent census. >> > It was April 13, 1813 -- near Louisville, KY >> > >> > If this bears any similarity to the information you're referring to, >> > may I >> > ask to be copied as well. >> > I don't think"buttinsky"s are very considerate generally, but in the >> > case >> > of genealogy, maybe that can be softened a little? I apologize in >> > advance. >> > >> > I have filed my Allen data in the back of the cabinet so many times, >> > it's >> > getting frowsy. Thanks in advance! >> > Jan in California. >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "jenny burgin" <jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net> >> > To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:03 PM >> > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman >> > >> > >> >> Gloria, I am also interested in Littleton Bradley Allen research page >> >> also. >> >> I have an Emily Allen daughter to Thomas Davis Allen. Could you >> >> please >> >> provide me the information on this page. Jenny Burgin >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com >> >> [mailto:ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> >> On Behalf Of G Frazier >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:58 PM >> >> To: ILMACOUP@rootsweb.com >> >> Subject: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman >> >> >> >> I gave Annie general information about the area and Littleton >> >> Bradley's >> >> Allen research page she requested but which didn't have any info about >> >> Uriah or Eliza. >> >> I am assuming Annie isn't on this maillist. If you have information on >> >> these people, PLEASE copy Annie if you reply to this maillist because >> >> if >> >> you only reply to this maillist, Annie won't get a copy of your msg. >> >> Thank >> >> you. >> >> Gloria >> >> ========= >> >> Annie wrote: >> >> "I am looking for information on Uriah Rocky Allen and family (Eliza >> >> Jane >> >> Coffman his wife) who resided on a farm between the Macoupin and Apple >> >> Creeks. Please tell me a little about the area, especially in the >> >> mid >> >> 1800's. Thank you! Annie O'Leary annieol@stx.rr.com >> >> 512-773-8056" >> >> >> >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >> >> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >> quotes >> >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >> >> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >>Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >>http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am going to Carlinville today, so will see if the obits are on microfilm. I'm interested in how you are related to Frederick and Louisa. Their second child Dena was my great grandmother who was married to Theodore Henry Hacke. Dee Snell > -----Original Message----- > From: sunao@primus.ca > To: ILMACOUP@rootsweb.com > Date: 07/02/09 10:10 > Subject: [ILMACOUP] Keune/Kuene/Kuenekke obit > > Is there anyone who has or would be willing to look up these two > obituaries? > > Moore Cemetery in Carlinville Township, Macoupin County, IL > > Keune, Frederick Christian December 7, 1815 July 2, 1903 > 87 years, 7 months 25 days > > Keune, Louisa H. Kasten (w/Frederick C. Keune) January 16, 1892 > 74 years, 3 months 10 days > > Thank you! > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In today's mail I received the latest Macoupin County Searcher. It is a great issue as usual. Mary takes the information provided by others and the information she so diligently digs up and puts together a great read. Without Jarid's help, it wouldn't arrive in the mail. He prints the mailing labels, sorts the newsletters, prints the postage billing and heads to the Post Office to get the news to the members. Sometimes he is involved in taking the newsletter to the printer and picking it up when Mary is not in the area. My personal thanks to both of them for their hard work. Our next meeting will be held on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 at Staunton Family Restaurant. In a few days, I will send out a more complete notice. If there is a topic you want us to bring up at the meeting, please contact me or one of the board members or if you are in the area, come join us. Have a safe and happy July 4th! More later. Cindy Leonard, President Macoupin County Genealogical Society

Dear Gloria: Every thing you say is right, Jenny. We are lucky to still have that source and that dedication. Until my husband's health halted my time for travel, my daughter and I have spent LOTS of time with the Allen's--both on line and in Salt Lake City. We used to go together with a group for a week at the Library. We were more novice genealogists at the time, but gaining skills rapidly. She finally threw up her hands and declared "no more Allen's", simply on sheer frustration. I have too on several occasions -- but I'm too much of an optimist to toss--I do bury, however--but it just keeps popping up regardless. I am sending Gloria a 4 page print-out of my research on my 2 earliest Allen generations. It is all my own research except for the noted ** areas which were sent to me. Because none of that information came with any documentation, I used lower case and asterisks to differentiate it in my own research. I've since lost contact with the donor, but I don't want to be responsible for passing information without permission. It does seem strange that with all the Allen's reposing in Macoupin County that Eveline Hall Allen's death record cannot be found, though her grave and obit are available. I so much need to know her parentage, because Hall is big in the area as well as Allen. She just pops from nowhere into that Allen household in 1850 and her death is just as silent and as mysterious. I have a photo that I think is surely Eveline, because the features are different than the Allen likenesses I've seen--and the time frame, hair and clothing are appropriate. It's bizarre to be IN then OUT so silently. In sending this, I'm hoping that within, there is a trigger-clue that those familiar with both the local Genie Society and County repository will provide an extra boost. Daughter and I have been fooling around with this as you can see for at least 10 years--off site. Maybe that's the reason. For a while Lula V. was helping me --she was my "bird-dog" on scene, responsible for both gravestone photo and obit, for which I am so grateful. I hope there's a kernel in it. I've done a lot of IL research because I have 3 Illinois Prairie Pioneer surnames: Joel BACON, Seth CHIPMAN and Henry MILLER. From James' sons, we have everything through Eveline's daughter Libby to the present. I only include 2nd generations here, however. I'm not good at forwarding, so I will copy and paste to is message. Report program won't permit copy/paste so I'm trying--export to Adobe. By George, I THINK I Have It. You'll be the first to know! Thanks for your interest, Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "jenny burgin" <jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net> To: "'Jan Miller'" <jgrellim@sbcglobal.net>; <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:32 PM Subject: RE: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > Gail, Thank you very much for the information and I will forward to Jan. I > just joined the list serve this last month and I personally have been > extremely impressed and I think you all are very blessed to have such a > great group of people who are so kind and "neighborly" on how everyone > helps > each other out. I especially find the Macoupin group as great in this > respect. Jan, I will check to see if I can see any connection to my > Allen's > and see if I can find any relationship. And I don't think you are a > buttinski but only try to be a good researcher. I have only been doing > this > for about 2-3 yrs but one thing I have learned is that you find clues to > some piece of your tree in the weirdest places. Jenny > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jan Miller [mailto:jgrellim@sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:04 AM > To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com > Cc: jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > > All, > I am interested in this surname, this time period and this location > between > Apple and Macoupin Creeks also. > I have a James and Delia [Davis] Allen and with all the Allen's that are > possible, still have not been able to find > the exact date of James and Delia's arrival in the county, their parents > or relatives--probably relatives. > > One of their 2 sons was my husband's great grandfather, but both surnames > are so popular --as is the common given name--it is very hard to > sort, and my best information is James' birth date, which he gave > correctly on each subsequent census. > It was April 13, 1813 -- near Louisville, KY > > If this bears any similarity to the information you're referring to, may I > ask to be copied as well. > I don't think"buttinsky"s are very considerate generally, but in the case > of genealogy, maybe that can be softened a little? I apologize in advance. > > I have filed my Allen data in the back of the cabinet so many times, it's > getting frowsy. Thanks in advance! > Jan in California. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jenny burgin" <jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net> > To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:03 PM > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > > >> Gloria, I am also interested in Littleton Bradley Allen research page >> also. >> I have an Emily Allen daughter to Thomas Davis Allen. Could you please >> provide me the information on this page. Jenny Burgin >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of G Frazier >> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:58 PM >> To: ILMACOUP@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman >> >> I gave Annie general information about the area and Littleton Bradley's >> Allen research page she requested but which didn't have any info about >> Uriah or Eliza. >> I am assuming Annie isn't on this maillist. If you have information on >> these people, PLEASE copy Annie if you reply to this maillist because if >> you only reply to this maillist, Annie won't get a copy of your msg. >> Thank >> you. >> Gloria >> ========= >> Annie wrote: >> "I am looking for information on Uriah Rocky Allen and family (Eliza Jane >> Coffman his wife) who resided on a farm between the Macoupin and Apple >> Creeks. Please tell me a little about the area, especially in the mid >> 1800's. Thank you! Annie O'Leary annieol@stx.rr.com >> 512-773-8056" >> >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Is there anyone who has or would be willing to look up these two obituaries? Moore Cemetery in Carlinville Township, Macoupin County, IL Keune, Frederick Christian December 7, 1815 July 2, 1903 87 years, 7 months 25 days Keune, Louisa H. Kasten (w/Frederick C. Keune) January 16, 1892 74 years, 3 months 10 days Thank you!

Gail, Thank you very much for the information and I will forward to Jan. I just joined the list serve this last month and I personally have been extremely impressed and I think you all are very blessed to have such a great group of people who are so kind and "neighborly" on how everyone helps each other out. I especially find the Macoupin group as great in this respect. Jan, I will check to see if I can see any connection to my Allen's and see if I can find any relationship. And I don't think you are a buttinski but only try to be a good researcher. I have only been doing this for about 2-3 yrs but one thing I have learned is that you find clues to some piece of your tree in the weirdest places. Jenny -----Original Message----- From: Jan Miller [mailto:jgrellim@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:04 AM To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com Cc: jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman All, I am interested in this surname, this time period and this location between Apple and Macoupin Creeks also. I have a James and Delia [Davis] Allen and with all the Allen's that are possible, still have not been able to find the exact date of James and Delia's arrival in the county, their parents or relatives--probably relatives. One of their 2 sons was my husband's great grandfather, but both surnames are so popular --as is the common given name--it is very hard to sort, and my best information is James' birth date, which he gave correctly on each subsequent census. It was April 13, 1813 -- near Louisville, KY If this bears any similarity to the information you're referring to, may I ask to be copied as well. I don't think"buttinsky"s are very considerate generally, but in the case of genealogy, maybe that can be softened a little? I apologize in advance. I have filed my Allen data in the back of the cabinet so many times, it's getting frowsy. Thanks in advance! Jan in California. ----- Original Message ----- From: "jenny burgin" <jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > Gloria, I am also interested in Littleton Bradley Allen research page > also. > I have an Emily Allen daughter to Thomas Davis Allen. Could you please > provide me the information on this page. Jenny Burgin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of G Frazier > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:58 PM > To: ILMACOUP@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > > I gave Annie general information about the area and Littleton Bradley's > Allen research page she requested but which didn't have any info about > Uriah or Eliza. > I am assuming Annie isn't on this maillist. If you have information on > these people, PLEASE copy Annie if you reply to this maillist because if > you only reply to this maillist, Annie won't get a copy of your msg. Thank > you. > Gloria > ========= > Annie wrote: > "I am looking for information on Uriah Rocky Allen and family (Eliza Jane > Coffman his wife) who resided on a farm between the Macoupin and Apple > Creeks. Please tell me a little about the area, especially in the mid > 1800's. Thank you! Annie O'Leary annieol@stx.rr.com > 512-773-8056" > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

All, I am interested in this surname, this time period and this location between Apple and Macoupin Creeks also. I have a James and Delia [Davis] Allen and with all the Allen's that are possible, still have not been able to find the exact date of James and Delia's arrival in the county, their parents or relatives--probably relatives. One of their 2 sons was my husband's great grandfather, but both surnames are so popular --as is the common given name--it is very hard to sort, and my best information is James' birth date, which he gave correctly on each subsequent census. It was April 13, 1813 -- near Louisville, KY If this bears any similarity to the information you're referring to, may I ask to be copied as well. I don't think"buttinsky"s are very considerate generally, but in the case of genealogy, maybe that can be softened a little? I apologize in advance. I have filed my Allen data in the back of the cabinet so many times, it's getting frowsy. Thanks in advance! Jan in California. ----- Original Message ----- From: "jenny burgin" <jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > Gloria, I am also interested in Littleton Bradley Allen research page > also. > I have an Emily Allen daughter to Thomas Davis Allen. Could you please > provide me the information on this page. Jenny Burgin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of G Frazier > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:58 PM > To: ILMACOUP@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > > I gave Annie general information about the area and Littleton Bradley's > Allen research page she requested but which didn't have any info about > Uriah or Eliza. > I am assuming Annie isn't on this maillist. If you have information on > these people, PLEASE copy Annie if you reply to this maillist because if > you only reply to this maillist, Annie won't get a copy of your msg. Thank > you. > Gloria > ========= > Annie wrote: > "I am looking for information on Uriah Rocky Allen and family (Eliza Jane > Coffman his wife) who resided on a farm between the Macoupin and Apple > Creeks. Please tell me a little about the area, especially in the mid > 1800's. Thank you! Annie O'Leary annieol@stx.rr.com > 512-773-8056" > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message