Gloria Don't ruffle the feathers yet.  Here's what I see on the situation of the article - There is a clause at the bottom of the Illinois Labor History Society's page as - NOTICE: This material may be freely used by non-commercial entities for educational and/or research purposes as long as this message remains on all copied material. These electronic pages cannot be reproduced in any format for profit or other presentation without the permission of The Macoupin County ILGenWeb Project. Since the Society is an educational entity it can reproduce the article and as the clause states has included the clause on the same page.  Per copyright guidelines this is all permissible. If the Society's webmaster would have changed the format or if the Society would have reprinted the article and sold it or used it at meetings then your permission as coordinator would have been required. Thus, the Illinois Labor History Society has done no wrong although it would have been considerate on their part had they consulted you first before including it on their website or just have made reference to it in a link which would have taken the site visitor to IL Gen Web's Macoupin Co site. Debbi --- On Thu, 7/30/09, G Frazier <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> wrote: From: G Frazier <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Pearcy, Keck, McCann To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 8:37 PM That site took the article right off of the Macoupin County ILGenWeb site. I DO HAVE written permission to use it. They didn't even ask if they could use it!!! Think I will go shake some trees. http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/mines/m_vhmin2.html Gloria At 07:10 PM 7/30/2009, you wrote: >Wayne, > >Victor Hicken has written a lot about the mine workers and Pearcy is >mentioned in one of his articles. > >http://www.kentlaw.edu/ilhs/hicken01.htm > >A simple google search turned up the above.  I did not search for more >info.  Hope this is of some help. > >Larry > > > >On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:16 PM, W Hinton <wmhntn@frontiernet.net> wrote: > > > Anyone know anything about these > > Progressive Mine Workers of America > > officials,  circa 1932 : > > Claude PEARCY, > > William KECK, > > John McCANN > > > > Thanks, > > Wayne > > http://gillespieil.com/gillespie/mining.html > > > > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Wayne, Victor Hicken has written a lot about the mine workers and Pearcy is mentioned in one of his articles. http://www.kentlaw.edu/ilhs/hicken01.htm A simple google search turned up the above. I did not search for more info. Hope this is of some help. Larry On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:16 PM, W Hinton <wmhntn@frontiernet.net> wrote: > Anyone know anything about these > Progressive Mine Workers of America > officials, circa 1932 : > Claude PEARCY, > William KECK, > John McCANN > > Thanks, > Wayne > http://gillespieil.com/gillespie/mining.html > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Larry, I already have a link to his material on the mining page. http://gillespieil.com/gillespie/mining.html Also there are links to Frank Fries and Jack Battuello's Interviews / Memoirs, plus a link to an interesting account with videos of Mine Wars of the 1930s Wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Clark" <leclark57@gmail.com> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Pearcy, Keck, McCann > Wayne, > > Victor Hicken has written a lot about the mine workers and Pearcy is > mentioned in one of his articles. > > http://www.kentlaw.edu/ilhs/hicken01.htm > > A simple google search turned up the above. I did not search for more > info. Hope this is of some help. > > Larry

Anyone know anything about these Progressive Mine Workers of America officials, circa 1932 : Claude PEARCY, William KECK, John McCANN Thanks, Wayne http://gillespieil.com/gillespie/mining.html

Newberry Library in Chicago has posted their Atlases of Historical County Boundaries online - _http://www.newberry.org/ahcbp/_ (http://www.newberry.org/ahcbp/) - - only Georgia and Tennessee are without entries at this time. The online version overlays the historical boundaries on the current boundaries (unless you turn "modern counties" off). The best part is you select the date and the database does the rest. This is a great research tool and it is FREE. Enjoy Kathie Mirabella **************Hot Deals at Dell on Popular Laptops perfect for Back to School (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223105306x1201716871/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D9)

Thanks, Linda, It looks like I messed up a cut & paste, that the last entry with Month & year of birth, between the xxxxxxxxxxx, belongs at the end of the 1900 Census, not at the end of the 1910. I sure do not know what happenend to them, they were in Macoupin in 1910, in their 70's, and I do not find either one on the death index for Macoupin or Montgomery. Of course, my own GrGrandmother died in the hospital at Litchfield in 1911 and there is no death record, either. Sharon On 29 Jul 2009 at 19:01, Linda Kmiecik wrote: Hi, Thanks. Printed all except 1880, which I had found too, and already printed out. Also checked Naturalization indexes - zilch. This person should be happy. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: <sjlbuethner-sheminee@att.net> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Seeking information on James Pocklington Lawrenceandhis wife Sarah Culbertson > Linda, > > Maybe you could print these off, too? My printer is not working at the > moment. > > Sharon > > ID: I29973 [Ancestry] > Name: James Pocklington LAWRENCE > Sex: M > Birth: 1836 in Rawcliffe, Yorkshire, England > Christening: 20 MAR 1836 Rawcliffe, Yorkshire, England > Occupation: Farmer > > Father: William LAWRENCE b: 1802 in Snaith, Yorkshire, England c: 21 > MAR 1802 in Snaith, Yorkshire, England > Mother: Mary POCKLINGTON b: 5 AUG 1801 in Doncaster, Yorkshire, > England > > Marriage 1 Sarah E CULBERSON b: in Illinois, USA > Children > Mary E LAWRENCE b: 1856 in Macoupin, Illinois, USA > William LAWRENCE b: 1857 in Macoupin, Illinois, USA > John W LAWRENCE b: 1860 in Macoupin, Illinois, USA > Joseph M LAWRENCE b: 1863 in Macoupin, Illinois, USA > Martin P LAWRENCE b: 1866 in Carlinville, Macoupin, Illinois, USA > xxxxxxxxx > > 1880 United States Federal Census > about James P. Lawrence > Name: James P. Lawrence > Home in 1880: Barr, Macoupin, Illinois > Age: 42 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 > Birthplace: England > Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) > Spouse's Name: Sarah E. > Father's birthplace: England > Mother's birthplace: England > Neighbors: View others on page > Occupation: Farmer > Marital Status: Married > Race: White > Gender: Male > Household Members: Name Age > James P. Lawrence 42 > Sarah E. Lawrence 40 > William H. Lawrence 21 > John W. Lawrence 20 > James L. Lawrence 18 > Joseph M. Lawrence 15 > M. P. Lawrence 14 > xxxxxxxxx > > 1900 United States Federal Census > about Jas Lawrence > Name: Jas Lawrence > [Ja Lawrence] > Home in 1900: Brushy Mound, Macoupin, Illinois > Age: 64 > Birth Date: Jul 1836 > Birthplace: England > Race: White > Ethnicity: American > Gender: Male > Immigration Year: 1851 > Relationship to Head of House: Head > Father's Birthplace: England > Mother's Birthplace: England > Spouse's Name: Sarah > Marriage Year: 1859 > Marital Status: Married > Years Married: 41 > Residence : Brushy Mound Township, Macoupin, Illinois > Occupation: View on Image > Neighbors: View others on page > Household Members: Name Age > 1910 United States Federal Census > about James Lawrence > Name: James Lawrence > Age in 1910: 74 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 > Birthplace: England > Relation to Head of House: Head > Father's Birth Place: England > Mother's Birth Place: England > Spouse's Name: Sarah E > Home in 1910: Carlinville Ward 1, Macoupin, Illinois > Marital Status: Married > Race: White > Gender: Male > Year of Immigration: 1882 > Neighbors: View others on page > Household Members: Name Age > James Lawrence 74 > Sarah E Lawrence 70 > xxxxxxxxxx > > Jas Lawrence 64, b. July 1836 England > Sarah Lawrence 60, b. July 1840, IL > Albert Lawrence 17 [Grandson], b. Oct 1882, IL > xxxxxxx > > > > > > On 29 Jul 2009 at 16:04, Linda Kmiecik wrote: > > Via Ancestry, found them in 1870 in Carlinville, T10 R7, as follows: > Name: James Lawrence > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 > Age in 1870: 34 > Birthplace: England > Home in 1870: Township 10 Range 7, Macoupin, Illinois > Race: White > Gender: Male > Value of real estate: View image > Post Office: Carlinville > Household Members: Name Age > James Lawrence 34 > Sarah E Lawrence 32 > Mary E Lawrence 14 > William Lawrence 12 > John W Lawrence 11 > James L Lawrence 7 > Joseph M Lawrence 6 > Martin P Lawrence 4 > James Spencer 25 > > > I will mail this to him. > > Linda K. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <KathieMir@aol.com> > To: <ILMACOUP-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:28 PM > Subject: [ILMACOUP] Seeking information on James Pocklington Lawrence > andhis > wife Sarah Culbertson > > >> M.C. Redfield (does not have e-mail) is looking for information on: >> >> James Pocklington Lawrence, born in 1836. He married Sarah Culbertson >> born in 1840 in Mo. They wed in 1859, and celebrated their 50th >> anniversary in >> 1909 in Carlinville. May have had 5 children. >> >> His address is : >> >> M.C. Redfield >> 250 Prospector Way >> Ballground, Ga. 30107 >> >> >> Kathie Mirabella >> **************Hot Deals at Dell on Popular Laptops perfect for Back to >> School >> (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223106546x1201717234/aol?r edir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D819 39%2D1629%2D8) >> >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Thanks. Printed all except 1880, which I had found too, and already printed out. Also checked Naturalization indexes - zilch. This person should be happy. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: <sjlbuethner-sheminee@att.net> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Seeking information on James Pocklington Lawrenceandhis wife Sarah Culbertson > Linda, > > Maybe you could print these off, too? My printer is not working at the > moment. > > Sharon > > ID: I29973 [Ancestry] > Name: James Pocklington LAWRENCE > Sex: M > Birth: 1836 in Rawcliffe, Yorkshire, England > Christening: 20 MAR 1836 Rawcliffe, Yorkshire, England > Occupation: Farmer > > Father: William LAWRENCE b: 1802 in Snaith, Yorkshire, England c: 21 > MAR 1802 in Snaith, Yorkshire, England > Mother: Mary POCKLINGTON b: 5 AUG 1801 in Doncaster, Yorkshire, > England > > Marriage 1 Sarah E CULBERSON b: in Illinois, USA > Children > Mary E LAWRENCE b: 1856 in Macoupin, Illinois, USA > William LAWRENCE b: 1857 in Macoupin, Illinois, USA > John W LAWRENCE b: 1860 in Macoupin, Illinois, USA > Joseph M LAWRENCE b: 1863 in Macoupin, Illinois, USA > Martin P LAWRENCE b: 1866 in Carlinville, Macoupin, Illinois, USA > xxxxxxxxx > > 1880 United States Federal Census > about James P. Lawrence > Name: James P. Lawrence > Home in 1880: Barr, Macoupin, Illinois > Age: 42 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 > Birthplace: England > Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) > Spouse's Name: Sarah E. > Father's birthplace: England > Mother's birthplace: England > Neighbors: View others on page > Occupation: Farmer > Marital Status: Married > Race: White > Gender: Male > Household Members: Name Age > James P. Lawrence 42 > Sarah E. Lawrence 40 > William H. Lawrence 21 > John W. Lawrence 20 > James L. Lawrence 18 > Joseph M. Lawrence 15 > M. P. Lawrence 14 > xxxxxxxxx > > 1900 United States Federal Census > about Jas Lawrence > Name: Jas Lawrence > [Ja Lawrence] > Home in 1900: Brushy Mound, Macoupin, Illinois > Age: 64 > Birth Date: Jul 1836 > Birthplace: England > Race: White > Ethnicity: American > Gender: Male > Immigration Year: 1851 > Relationship to Head of House: Head > Father's Birthplace: England > Mother's Birthplace: England > Spouse's Name: Sarah > Marriage Year: 1859 > Marital Status: Married > Years Married: 41 > Residence : Brushy Mound Township, Macoupin, Illinois > Occupation: View on Image > Neighbors: View others on page > Household Members: Name Age > 1910 United States Federal Census > about James Lawrence > Name: James Lawrence > Age in 1910: 74 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 > Birthplace: England > Relation to Head of House: Head > Father's Birth Place: England > Mother's Birth Place: England > Spouse's Name: Sarah E > Home in 1910: Carlinville Ward 1, Macoupin, Illinois > Marital Status: Married > Race: White > Gender: Male > Year of Immigration: 1882 > Neighbors: View others on page > Household Members: Name Age > James Lawrence 74 > Sarah E Lawrence 70 > xxxxxxxxxx > > Jas Lawrence 64, b. July 1836 England > Sarah Lawrence 60, b. July 1840, IL > Albert Lawrence 17 [Grandson], b. Oct 1882, IL > xxxxxxx > > > > > > On 29 Jul 2009 at 16:04, Linda Kmiecik wrote: > > Via Ancestry, found them in 1870 in Carlinville, T10 R7, as follows: > Name: James Lawrence > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 > Age in 1870: 34 > Birthplace: England > Home in 1870: Township 10 Range 7, Macoupin, Illinois > Race: White > Gender: Male > Value of real estate: View image > Post Office: Carlinville > Household Members: Name Age > James Lawrence 34 > Sarah E Lawrence 32 > Mary E Lawrence 14 > William Lawrence 12 > John W Lawrence 11 > James L Lawrence 7 > Joseph M Lawrence 6 > Martin P Lawrence 4 > James Spencer 25 > > > I will mail this to him. > > Linda K. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <KathieMir@aol.com> > To: <ILMACOUP-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:28 PM > Subject: [ILMACOUP] Seeking information on James Pocklington Lawrence > andhis > wife Sarah Culbertson > > >> M.C. Redfield (does not have e-mail) is looking for information on: >> >> James Pocklington Lawrence, born in 1836. He married Sarah Culbertson >> born in 1840 in Mo. They wed in 1859, and celebrated their 50th >> anniversary in >> 1909 in Carlinville. May have had 5 children. >> >> His address is : >> >> M.C. Redfield >> 250 Prospector Way >> Ballground, Ga. 30107 >> >> >> Kathie Mirabella >> **************Hot Deals at Dell on Popular Laptops perfect for Back to >> School >> (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223106546x1201717234/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D8) >> >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Linda, Maybe you could print these off, too? My printer is not working at the moment. Sharon ID: I29973 [Ancestry] Name: James Pocklington LAWRENCE Sex: M Birth: 1836 in Rawcliffe, Yorkshire, England Christening: 20 MAR 1836 Rawcliffe, Yorkshire, England Occupation: Farmer Father: William LAWRENCE b: 1802 in Snaith, Yorkshire, England c: 21 MAR 1802 in Snaith, Yorkshire, England Mother: Mary POCKLINGTON b: 5 AUG 1801 in Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Marriage 1 Sarah E CULBERSON b: in Illinois, USA Children Mary E LAWRENCE b: 1856 in Macoupin, Illinois, USA William LAWRENCE b: 1857 in Macoupin, Illinois, USA John W LAWRENCE b: 1860 in Macoupin, Illinois, USA Joseph M LAWRENCE b: 1863 in Macoupin, Illinois, USA Martin P LAWRENCE b: 1866 in Carlinville, Macoupin, Illinois, USA xxxxxxxxx 1880 United States Federal Census about James P. Lawrence Name: James P. Lawrence Home in 1880: Barr, Macoupin, Illinois Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Birthplace: England Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) Spouse's Name: Sarah E. Father's birthplace: England Mother's birthplace: England Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: Farmer Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Household Members: Name Age James P. Lawrence 42 Sarah E. Lawrence 40 William H. Lawrence 21 John W. Lawrence 20 James L. Lawrence 18 Joseph M. Lawrence 15 M. P. Lawrence 14 xxxxxxxxx 1900 United States Federal Census about Jas Lawrence Name: Jas Lawrence [Ja Lawrence] Home in 1900: Brushy Mound, Macoupin, Illinois Age: 64 Birth Date: Jul 1836 Birthplace: England Race: White Ethnicity: American Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1851 Relationship to Head of House: Head Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Spouse's Name: Sarah Marriage Year: 1859 Marital Status: Married Years Married: 41 Residence : Brushy Mound Township, Macoupin, Illinois Occupation: View on Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age 1910 United States Federal Census about James Lawrence Name: James Lawrence Age in 1910: 74 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Birthplace: England Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: England Mother's Birth Place: England Spouse's Name: Sarah E Home in 1910: Carlinville Ward 1, Macoupin, Illinois Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Year of Immigration: 1882 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age James Lawrence 74 Sarah E Lawrence 70 xxxxxxxxxx Jas Lawrence 64, b. July 1836 England Sarah Lawrence 60, b. July 1840, IL Albert Lawrence 17 [Grandson], b. Oct 1882, IL xxxxxxx On 29 Jul 2009 at 16:04, Linda Kmiecik wrote: Via Ancestry, found them in 1870 in Carlinville, T10 R7, as follows: Name: James Lawrence Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Age in 1870: 34 Birthplace: England Home in 1870: Township 10 Range 7, Macoupin, Illinois Race: White Gender: Male Value of real estate: View image Post Office: Carlinville Household Members: Name Age James Lawrence 34 Sarah E Lawrence 32 Mary E Lawrence 14 William Lawrence 12 John W Lawrence 11 James L Lawrence 7 Joseph M Lawrence 6 Martin P Lawrence 4 James Spencer 25 I will mail this to him. Linda K. ----- Original Message ----- From: <KathieMir@aol.com> To: <ILMACOUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:28 PM Subject: [ILMACOUP] Seeking information on James Pocklington Lawrence andhis wife Sarah Culbertson > M.C. Redfield (does not have e-mail) is looking for information on: > > James Pocklington Lawrence, born in 1836. He married Sarah Culbertson > born in 1840 in Mo. They wed in 1859, and celebrated their 50th > anniversary in > 1909 in Carlinville. May have had 5 children. > > His address is : > > M.C. Redfield > 250 Prospector Way > Ballground, Ga. 30107 > > > Kathie Mirabella > **************Hot Deals at Dell on Popular Laptops perfect for Back to > School > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223106546x1201717234/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D8) > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

M.C. Redfield (does not have e-mail) is looking for information on: James Pocklington Lawrence, born in 1836. He married Sarah Culbertson born in 1840 in Mo. They wed in 1859, and celebrated their 50th anniversary in 1909 in Carlinville. May have had 5 children. His address is : M.C. Redfield 250 Prospector Way Ballground, Ga. 30107 Kathie Mirabella **************Hot Deals at Dell on Popular Laptops perfect for Back to School (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223106546x1201717234/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D8)

Via Ancestry, found them in 1870 in Carlinville, T10 R7, as follows: Name: James Lawrence Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Age in 1870: 34 Birthplace: England Home in 1870: Township 10 Range 7, Macoupin, Illinois Race: White Gender: Male Value of real estate: View image Post Office: Carlinville Household Members: Name Age James Lawrence 34 Sarah E Lawrence 32 Mary E Lawrence 14 William Lawrence 12 John W Lawrence 11 James L Lawrence 7 Joseph M Lawrence 6 Martin P Lawrence 4 James Spencer 25 I will mail this to him. Linda K. ----- Original Message ----- From: <KathieMir@aol.com> To: <ILMACOUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:28 PM Subject: [ILMACOUP] Seeking information on James Pocklington Lawrence andhis wife Sarah Culbertson > M.C. Redfield (does not have e-mail) is looking for information on: > > James Pocklington Lawrence, born in 1836. He married Sarah Culbertson > born in 1840 in Mo. They wed in 1859, and celebrated their 50th > anniversary in > 1909 in Carlinville. May have had 5 children. > > His address is : > > M.C. Redfield > 250 Prospector Way > Ballground, Ga. 30107 > > > Kathie Mirabella > **************Hot Deals at Dell on Popular Laptops perfect for Back to > School > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223106546x1201717234/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D8) > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The following are meetings/trips that require registration. Please note that the deadline for the first meeting is August 1, after that the cost increases by $10.00. 15 August 2009 Google Your Family Tree with Daniel M. Lynch 24 October 2009 Virginia, the Old Dominion State wtih Barbara Vines Little 15 November 2009 Salt Lake City Trip More information on all of the above may be found on the website www.stlgs.org Regular society meetings and G-SIG meetings are as follows, unless noted all meetings are held at the St. Louis County Library Headquarters. 28 July 2009 Irish SIG 10th Anniversary Celebration 7:00 pm 8 August 2009 African American SIG Compiling Family Data 11:00 a.m. 11 August 2009 What's New in 2009 at the Mo. History Museum & Research Library - Dennis Northcott 7:00 pm 8 September 2009 Historic Houses of Worship in St. Louis County Esley Hamilton 7:00 pm 13 October 2009 Non-Genealogical Websites for the Genealogist Bob Goode 7:00 pm Note time and date change for this meeting - we are now into winter meeting times! 14 November 2009 Computer Tidbits for Genealogists Ann Fleming, CG, CGL, FNGS 10:00 a.m. Information on the meetings, dates, and times, can always be found at the STLGS website: www.stlgs.org

Kathie >From what I know from my husband's gr-gr-grandfather getting land in the 1850's in Southeast Missouri, the government offered land as a way of payment for military service.  It's possible that your James Huskey had this situation placed before him.  The government didn't give you a choice of where the land was, but just simply told you where it was at.  Then it was your responsibility to travel there and make the necessary arrangements.  Also, some certificates were not issued until the land had either been settled or had been paid for in full.  The currency used at the time was whatever was being used by the country at that time.  No one state had its own currency.  It wasn't until the Civil War that there was a separate currency of which neither the Union or the Confederate currencies were good in the other jurisdiction although the Union's was always good in those states which succeeded from the Union.  After the end of the Civil War even the Confederate currency wasn't being accepted by many of the business owners in the South. To see what the currency looked like, check out a coin and currency pricing book.  Many of them do have small black and white photos of the old coins and paper currencies.  I would imagine that some of the larger libraries would have them or perhaps a google search may show some as long as you know the names that coin/currency collectors use or by which they were referred to in their time. Debbi --- On Thu, 7/23/09, KathieMir@aol.com <KathieMir@aol.com> wrote: From: KathieMir@aol.com <KathieMir@aol.com> Subject: [ILMACOUP] Macoupin County, IL and the April 24, 1820: Sale-Cash Entry (3 Stat. 566) Act To: ILMACOUP-L@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 7:19 PM In 1815, James Huskey moved from Sevier County, TN to Dallas County, AL  (later Perry County).  I have been told James Huskey purchased land in  Dallas County, AL on 17 April 1819 (needs to be  researched). In 1834, James and his family moved to Macoupin County, IL from Perry  County, AL.  From 16 April 1834 until 8 January 1840, James purchased a  total of 2,218.38 acres of land in Macoupin County, IL from the Edwardsville,  Illinois Land Office.  This land was purchased under the April  24, 1820: Sale-Cash Entry (3 Stat. 566) Act.  My  questions: 1.    Where would I find Broadside (advertisement) examples  of Federal Land for sell in the 1830's.  Would especially like an  advertisement for Ill inois and Macoupin County.  Want to know how someone  in Alabama knew to come to Macoupin County, Illinois and purchase land for  $1.25 per acre. 2.    What currency would James Huskey have used  to purchase land in Alabama in 1819?  Silver? What currency would he have  used to purchase land in Illinois in 1834?  Where could I obtain a picture  of what this currency looked like?  In 1834, was Alabama currency good  in Illinois?  Did he have a wagon full of silver to purchase the land  in Illinois?  3.    On the Illinois Public Domain Land Tract Sales database:  __http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/data_lan.html__ (http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/data_lan.html_)   it  list “Date of Purchase” for James as 16 April 1834.  On Ancestry.com, U.S..  General Land Office Records, 1796-1907, the “Issue Date” is 22 April  1835.  Land he purchased on 8  January 1840 was not issued a certificate  until 3 March 1843. Was there normally a year or more lag between the two  dates? Thank you for your  help, Kathie  Mirabella **************Dell Deals: Treat yourself to a sweet deal on popular laptops! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223100673x1201716527/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D7) Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In 1815, James Huskey moved from Sevier County, TN to Dallas County, AL (later Perry County). I have been told James Huskey purchased land in Dallas County, AL on 17 April 1819 (needs to be researched). In 1834, James and his family moved to Macoupin County, IL from Perry County, AL. From 16 April 1834 until 8 January 1840, James purchased a total of 2,218.38 acres of land in Macoupin County, IL from the Edwardsville, Illinois Land Office. This land was purchased under the April 24, 1820: Sale-Cash Entry (3 Stat. 566) Act. My questions: 1. Where would I find Broadside (advertisement) examples of Federal Land for sell in the 1830's. Would especially like an advertisement for Ill inois and Macoupin County. Want to know how someone in Alabama knew to come to Macoupin County, Illinois and purchase land for $1.25 per acre. 2. What currency would James Huskey have used to purchase land in Alabama in 1819? Silver? What currency would he have used to purchase land in Illinois in 1834? Where could I obtain a picture of what this currency looked like? In 1834, was Alabama currency good in Illinois? Did he have a wagon full of silver to purchase the land in Illinois? 3. On the Illinois Public Domain Land Tract Sales database: __http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/data_lan.html__ (http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/data_lan.html_) it list “Date of Purchase” for James as 16 April 1834. On Ancestry.com, U.S. General Land Office Records, 1796-1907, the “Issue Date” is 22 April 1835. Land he purchased on 8 January 1840 was not issued a certificate until 3 March 1843. Was there normally a year or more lag between the two dates? Thank you for your help, Kathie Mirabella **************Dell Deals: Treat yourself to a sweet deal on popular laptops! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223100673x1201716527/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D7)

List members. I now have a new e-mail:brent4980@charter.net Thanks Thomas D. Brent Grandson of Grace Brent(nee Grace Dugger)

Anyone know of this person's new email address? Old one is bouncing. Thanks. Gloria Shannon Large Email: <mailto:chief4@ctnet.net>chief4@ctnet.net * Registered surname(s) <file://file:///C:/Program%20Files/Common%20Files/Microsoft%20Shared/Stationery/surb.html#BLEVINS>BLEVINS, <file://file:///C:/Program%20Files/Common%20Files/Microsoft%20Shared/Stationery/surc.html#CLEAVER>CLEAVER, <file://file:///C:/Program%20Files/Common%20Files/Microsoft%20Shared/Stationery/surd.html#DUNCAN>DUNCAN, <file://file:///C:/Program%20Files/Common%20Files/Microsoft%20Shared/Stationery/surj.html#JONES>JONES, <file://file:///C:/Program%20Files/Common%20Files/Microsoft%20Shared/Stationery/surk.html#KEELE>KEELE, <file://file:///C:/Program%20Files/Common%20Files/Microsoft%20Shared/Stationery/surk.html#KNIGHT>KNIGHT, <file://file:///C:/Program%20Files/Common%20Files/Microsoft%20Shared/Stationery/surm.html#MURPHY>MURPHY, <file://file:///C:/Program%20Files/Common%20Files/Microsoft%20Shared/Stationery/surr.html#REEVES>REEVES on Saturday, July 1, 2000 * Posted <file://file:///C:/Program%20Files/Common%20Files/Microsoft%20Shared/Stationery/query010.html#888>Query on Saturday, March 25, 2000 for surname(s) <file://file:///C:/Program%20Files/Common%20Files/Microsoft%20Shared/Stationery/surb.html#BLEVINS>BLEVINS, <file://file:///C:/Program%20Files/Common%20Files/Microsoft%20Shared/Stationery/surd.html#DUNCAN>DUNCAN, <file://file:///C:/Program%20Files/Common%20Files/Microsoft%20Shared/Stationery/surl.html#LAIR>LAIR, <file://file:///C:/Program%20Files/Common%20Files/Microsoft%20Shared/Stationery/surl.html#LARGE>LARGE * Posted <file://file:///C:/Program%20Files/Common%20Files/Microsoft%20Shared/Stationery/query011.html#926>Query on Saturday, July 1, 2000 for surname(s) <file://file:///C:/Program%20Files/Common%20Files/Microsoft%20Shared/Stationery/surb.html#BRIMBERRY>BRIMBERRY, <file://file:///C:/Program%20Files/Common%20Files/Microsoft%20Shared/Stationery/surf.html#FONES>FONES, <file://file:///C:/Program%20Files/Common%20Files/Microsoft%20Shared/Stationery/surl.html#LAIR>LAIR, <file://file:///C:/Program%20Files/Common%20Files/Microsoft%20Shared/Stationery/surl.html#LARGE>LARGE, <file://file:///C:/Program%20Files/Common%20Files/Microsoft%20Shared/Stationery/surl.html#LITTLE>LITTLE

You will find this interesting and enlightening if your family came thru Ellis and you can't find them. http://olivetreegenealogy.blogspot.com/2009/07/anomaly-of-ellis-island-ships-passenger.html ======================== Cemeteries: http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/cemetery/index.html Liz Waggoner came back from MI and added more to Piasa (completed walk thru 2009) A few added at Gilead by Jane Dugger A few added at Oak Hill by Jim Dugger Cherry entrance pics added by Jim Dugger ======================== Marilyn Galvan added: Catalogue of City School No. 3 Carlinville In the Winter Session of 1858-9 http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/schools/carlin-no3.html =========================== A few queries have been added at the end of this page. Most have come across the maillist: http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/queries/query021.html =========================== Should have sent this little bit some time ago because I can't remember what else I have added. If you recall something I have missed, send it to the maillist. Thanks. ============= Gloria ------------------ Gloria M. Frazier <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> Macoupin County ILGenWeb County Coordinator http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/

Back to School and Genealogy! Remember that New Years resolution you made to organize your genealogy notes, letters, computer print outs, etc. Now is the time to buy the supplies. Over the next few month there will be many Back to School sales. You can use these items for organizing your genealogy records. Check your newspaper for sales and COUPONS. They have notebook paper, 3 ring binders, and spiral notebooks on sale. Another good item is the kid's assignment calendars - these are great for keeping track of "TO DO" lists. Look for stackable file boxes - they are plastic - not too large - and you can easily carry them around. Take a trip to the store and see what may help solve some of your organizational problems. Set a timer for 10 to 15 minutes each day and use that time to file and organize your papers. If I only listened to my own advice!!! Happy Hunting, Kathie Mirabella Macoupin County, IL Mail List Manager http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/macoupin.htm **************Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003)

Well, anyway, I did see the cemetery map, so there is one floating around somewhere. I'll bet (from the condition of that map) that was the only copy. Pris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbi Geer" <dgirth@yahoo.com> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Benld City and Bunker Hill Cemetery maps? Priscilla You are referring to Ralph Gerdt who finally retired about 32 or 3 years ago and passed away last year. Debbi Geer --- On Tue, 7/7/09, Priscilla Davis <prisdavis731@cablelynx.com> wrote: From: Priscilla Davis <prisdavis731@cablelynx.com> Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Benld City and Bunker Hill Cemetery maps? To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 12:22 PM There used to be an elderly gentleman that would come into the downtown bank for a couple of hours each day to "work". Don't know his position, but he was old and had a map that looked as old. I was there a few years ago, and he was able to locate my great-grandparents on the map. Priscilla Davis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jarid Ott" <jott@madisontelco.com> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Benld City and Bunker Hill Cemetery maps? >I just checked the Benld & Bunker Hill cemetery files and neither of them > have maps. > > Jarid > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Chuck & Cindy Leonard > Date: 7/5/2009 10:02:02 AM > To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Benld City and Bunker Hill Cemetery maps? > > I don't know if Jill Secoy or Jarid Ott would have any or not. > JLSecoy > E-mail Address(es): > jlsecoy1@hotmail.com > > Jarid Ott > E-mail Address(es): > jott@madisontelco.com > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "G Frazier" <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> > To: <ILMACOUP@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:54 AM > Subject: [ILMACOUP] Benld City and Bunker Hill Cemetery maps? > > >> Does anyone know of a stone map for Benld City and/or Bunker Hill > Cemeteries? >> ======================= >> I am looking for maps and locations for a couple family members in Benld >> Cemetery. >> Do you know where I could go for this? I am also working on Bunker >> Hill. I spoke to someone on the cemetery board who says there is only 1 >> big map on a wall in an office that they rarely visit. No maps to hand >> out. The library does have a listing of names and locations. I have >> several people there. I have driving in from St. Louis twice now and did >> alot of walking and have found several but still have many to find. >> Suggestions? >> Susan Ing >> ============= >> >> Gloria >> >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy > org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The "32 or 3 years ago" should have been "2 or 3 years ago".  Sorry about that. Debbi --- On Tue, 7/7/09, Debbi Geer <dgirth@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Debbi Geer <dgirth@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Benld City and Bunker Hill Cemetery maps? To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 10:50 PM Priscilla You are referring to Ralph Gerdt who finally retired about 32 or 3 years ago and passed away last year. Debbi Geer --- On Tue, 7/7/09, Priscilla Davis <prisdavis731@cablelynx.com> wrote: From: Priscilla Davis <prisdavis731@cablelynx.com> Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Benld City and Bunker Hill Cemetery maps? To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 12:22 PM There used to be an elderly gentleman that would come into the downtown bank for a couple of hours each day to "work". Don't know his position, but he was old and had a map that looked as old. I was there a few years ago, and he was able to locate my great-grandparents on the map. Priscilla Davis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jarid Ott" <jott@madisontelco.com> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Benld City and Bunker Hill Cemetery maps? >I just checked the Benld & Bunker Hill cemetery files and neither of them > have maps. > > Jarid > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Chuck & Cindy Leonard > Date: 7/5/2009 10:02:02 AM > To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Benld City and Bunker Hill Cemetery maps? > > I don't know if Jill Secoy or Jarid Ott would have any or not. > JLSecoy > E-mail Address(es): > jlsecoy1@hotmail.com > > Jarid Ott > E-mail Address(es): > jott@madisontelco.com > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "G Frazier" <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> > To: <ILMACOUP@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:54 AM > Subject: [ILMACOUP] Benld City and Bunker Hill Cemetery maps? > > >> Does anyone know of a stone map for Benld City and/or Bunker Hill > Cemeteries? >> ======================= >> I am looking for maps and locations for a couple family members in Benld >> Cemetery. >> Do you know where I could go for this? I am also working on Bunker >> Hill. I spoke to someone on the cemetery board who says there is only 1 >> big map on a wall in an office that they rarely visit. No maps to hand >> out. The library does have a listing of names and locations. I have >> several people there. I have driving in from St. Louis twice now and did >> alot of walking and have found several but still have many to find. >> Suggestions? >> Susan Ing >> ============= >> >> Gloria >> >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy > org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Priscilla You are referring to Ralph Gerdt who finally retired about 32 or 3 years ago and passed away last year. Debbi Geer --- On Tue, 7/7/09, Priscilla Davis <prisdavis731@cablelynx.com> wrote: From: Priscilla Davis <prisdavis731@cablelynx.com> Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Benld City and Bunker Hill Cemetery maps? To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 12:22 PM There used to be an elderly gentleman that would come into the downtown bank for a couple of hours each day to "work".  Don't know his position, but he was old and had a map that looked as old.  I was there a few years ago, and he was able to locate my great-grandparents on the map. Priscilla Davis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jarid Ott" <jott@madisontelco.com> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Benld City and Bunker Hill Cemetery maps? >I just checked the Benld & Bunker Hill cemetery files and neither of them > have maps. > > Jarid > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Chuck & Cindy Leonard > Date: 7/5/2009 10:02:02 AM > To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Benld City and Bunker Hill Cemetery maps? > > I don't know if Jill Secoy or Jarid Ott would have any or not. > JLSecoy > E-mail Address(es): >    jlsecoy1@hotmail.com > > Jarid Ott > E-mail Address(es): >  jott@madisontelco.com > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "G Frazier" <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> > To: <ILMACOUP@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:54 AM > Subject: [ILMACOUP] Benld City and Bunker Hill Cemetery maps? > > >> Does anyone know of a stone map for Benld City and/or Bunker Hill > Cemeteries? >> ======================= >> I am looking for maps and locations for a couple family members in Benld >> Cemetery. >> Do you know where I could go for this?  I am also working on Bunker >> Hill.  I spoke to someone on the cemetery board who says there is only 1 >> big map on a wall in an office that they rarely visit.  No maps to hand >> out.  The library does have a listing of names and locations.  I have >> several people there.  I have driving in from St. Louis twice now and did >> alot of walking and have found several but still have many to find. >> Suggestions? >> Susan Ing >> ============= >> >> Gloria >> >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy > org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message