I deleted the message sent in the past two days about Priscilla Conlee, which give her burial in Waverly. Would someone still have it? Thanks Marita Gladson, M.A. MFT Exec. Director Saboba's Hope,Inc. Fullerton, Ca 714-773-5172 www.sabobashope.net www.sabobamedicalcentre.net Video http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=17750846 Saboba Medical Centre http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhbVAVzy4 Saboba's Children http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8PHn5NUZSU

One other possibility comes to mind. "Sanona" seems a very unusual name. Do you have other instances of it for her? Perhaps someone mis-transcribed "Lanora", which may have been a census-taker's attempt at "Elenora" or "Leonora" or something along those lines. Marsha L. Ensminger --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Marita Gladson <maritag@earthlink.net> wrote: > From: Marita Gladson <maritag@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] ILMACOUP Digest, Vol 4, Issue 131 > To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 6:44 AM > Yes that is my family.  Thank > you for taking the time to go back an  > check of other information. I joined DAR on this line. > > The 1870 census says Martha was adopted so I am guessing > the same for  > Sanora. > The death you give for Priscilla is what I have,  so > guess she didn't  > remarry. > That then leaves Marsha's idea that both girls died of TB > or something  > els. > > > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:58:26 -0500 > From: sjlbuethner-sheminee@att.net > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Intresting puzzle > To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4A843822.26053.526CD76@sjlbuethner-sheminee.att.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Ah Ha, I will send another email, shortly. > > Sharon > > > Going backwards to go forward - grin > > If this is your family, there is lots more info > available.  Some are  > buried in a > Ross - ?? Cemetery, Palmyra. > > Pricilla d. 17 Feb 1893 in Waverly, Morgan, Illinois.  > Chances are  > that the > two young girls are HERs, not his.  Pricilla and > Robert were m. 1865,  > and > Martha was b. abt 1862, Sanona abt 1864. > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Yes that is my family. Thank you for taking the time to go back an check of other information. I joined DAR on this line. The 1870 census says Martha was adopted so I am guessing the same for Sanora. The death you give for Priscilla is what I have, so guess she didn't remarry. That then leaves Marsha's idea that both girls died of TB or something els. Message: 5 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:58:26 -0500 From: sjlbuethner-sheminee@att.net Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Intresting puzzle To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4A843822.26053.526CD76@sjlbuethner-sheminee.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Ah Ha, I will send another email, shortly. Sharon Going backwards to go forward - grin If this is your family, there is lots more info available. Some are buried in a Ross - ?? Cemetery, Palmyra. Pricilla d. 17 Feb 1893 in Waverly, Morgan, Illinois. Chances are that the two young girls are HERs, not his. Pricilla and Robert were m. 1865, and Martha was b. abt 1862, Sanona abt 1864.

Thanks to all who responded.

I love helping researchers if I can but slowing down. Have a bit of eye strain but enjoy it. I did the 1845 by myself after Linda recd permission. Marita typed the patentee pages. I used my digital camera and took pics of all of the book pages. You can enlargen the pages to read them. Had a lot of volunteer help on the 1840 tax book. It was done in 2000, I scanned the pages and volunteers typed the index. Linda R. F. Arnold, Loretta Beeuwsaert, Carolynn Bettis, Patti Breaux, Gloria Frazier, Carolyn Gibbons, Marlene Johnson, Linda Kmiecik, Sue McMurry, Mary Mayo, Pam Ripplinger, Melissa Robards, Yvonne Stedman, Elizabeth Lentz Wood(deceased) If I can just get those 1840 land description pages up.......someday According to the 1840 tax book, as I see, Benj didn't own land in Macoupin, maybe? Deed indexes would say for sure. See him in the 1845. Thanks for your kind comment. Gloria At 10:40 PM 8/12/2009, you wrote: >Gloria, >Thanks much - it's great to have those tax records available. Please >know it's appreciated - thank you and everyone else who made it happen. >Carl >On Aug 12, 2009, at 1:23 PM, G Frazier wrote: > > > I don't know about plat books but we just put up the 1845 tax > > assessor book > > (not proofread): > > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/1845tax/index.html > > includes land descriptions. > > > > and I am in the process of adding land description pages to the 1840: > > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/1840tax/index.html > > > Too busy wayyyy back when to add them. Thot the names at the time > > were the > > most important. > > > > Otherwise, the deed indexes at the courthouse would be the surefire > > way of > > getting land descriptions. > > > > Gloria > > > > At 02:06 PM 8/12/2009, you wrote: > >> Are there land ownership plat books for Macoupin County for the 1830s > >> or 1840s? > >> Carl Stedman > >> > >> On Aug 12, 2009, at 12:31 PM, sjlbuethner-sheminee@att.net wrote: > >> > >>> The 1875 Macoupin County Atlas shows T. Silberzahn owning 40 > >>> acres in > >>> Section 9 and 40 Acres in Section 10 [next to each other] with the > >>> house in > >>> Section 10. This is about 5 miles East of Chesterfield, 1 mile > >>> South, or > >>> about 2 miles North of Macoupin Station and a little over a mile > >>> West. > >>> There appear to be no cemeteries close to this land. > >>> > >>> P. Geiger owns the land in 1895 [Plat Book]. > >>> > >>> The 1900 Federal Census shows a Phillip Geiger, 72, widowed, > >>> living in > >>> Carlinville, with son, Jacob; d. in law, Elizabeth; and 3 > >>> Grandsons. Does > >>> not appear to be related. > >>> > >>> Naturalization Index - Macoupin County GenWeb > >>> Index I - Vol. 13, Page 27 SILBERZAHN, Thomas; > >>> xxxxxxxx > >>> > >>> 1880 United States Federal Census > >>> about Thomas Silverzahn > >>> Name: Thomas Silverzahn > >>> Home in 1880: Polk, Macoupin, Illinois > >>> Age: 49 > >>> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 > >>> Birthplace: Baden > >>> Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) > >>> Spouse's Name: Mary > >>> Father's birthplace: Baden > >>> Mother's birthplace: Baden > >>> Neighbors: View others on page > >>> Occupation: Farmer > >>> Marital Status: Married > >>> Race: White > >>> Gender: Male > >>> Household Members: Name Age > >>> Thomas Silverzahn 49 > >>> Mary Silverzahn 50 > >>> Mary Silverzahn 20 > >>> xxxxxx > >>> > >>> 1870 United States Federal Census > >>> about Thos Silverson > >>> Name: Thos Silverson > >>> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 > >>> Age in 1870: 39 > >>> Birthplace: Baden > >>> Home in 1870: Township 9 Range 8, Macoupin, Illinois > >>> Race: White > >>> Gender: Male > >>> Value of real estate: View image > >>> Post Office: Plainview > >>> Household Members: Name Age > >>> Thos Silverson 39 > >>> Mary Silverson 40 > >>> Mary Silverson 10 > >>> xxxxxxxxxx > >>> > >>> > >>> Hope some of this helps, > >>> > >>> Sharon > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 12 Aug 2009 at 4:32, Thomas Johnson wrote: > >>> > >>> Thank you, very much, Linda! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you > >>> > >>> rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and > >>> > >>> humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls." > >>> > >>> Matthew 11:28-29 NIV > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > >>> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP- > >>> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes in > >>> the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http:// > >>> www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP- > >>> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >>> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > >> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http:// > > www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP- > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Priscilla Conlee Born: 6 Jul 1819 Morgan, [county], Illinois Died: 17 Feb 1893 Waverly, Morgan, Illinois Spouse 1 James Fleming Thomas Born: 1815 Died: 1847 Marriage: 3 Feb 1837 in [city], [county], Illinois Children Sex Birth Leander A Thomas M 6 Jan 1838 in [city], Morgan, Illinois Isaac Thomas M 1840 Fannie Thomas F 1844 Fleming Thomas M 1846 John Thomas M 1848 Spouse 2 Robert Ross Born: 22 Aug 1801 in [city], Harford, Maryland Died: 20 Oct 1870 in [city], Macoupin, Illinois Marriage: 1865 Spouse 3 Andrew Wood Born: 2 Jul 1817 in Jarvis, Madison, Illinois Died: 25 Aug 1896 in Madison, [county], Illinois Marriage: 16 Nov 1871 in Madison, [county], Illinois xxxxxxxxxxx This appears to be Pricilla in 1880. 1880 United States Federal Census about Andrew Wood Name: Andrew Wood Home in 1880: Jarvis Or Saint Jacobs, Madison, Illinois Age: 63 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817 Birthplace: Illinois Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) Spouse's Name: Pricilla Father's birthplace: Kentucky Mother's birthplace: Kentucky Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: Farmer Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Household Members: Name Age Andrew Wood 63 Pricilla Wood 58 William Wood 32 Evely Wood 25 W. Thomas 16, Servant, b. MO Alice Thomas 13, Servant, b. MO xxxxxxxxxxx

I found following marriage in IL: LORGER, ISAIAH H ROSS, PRISCILLA 1876-11-29 4 /94 3616 CHAMPAIGN Kathie Mirabella In a message dated 8/13/2009 3:06:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, maritag@earthlink.net writes: I am transcribing copies of the various census for Macoupin to the Census sheets to make storage easier. When doing the 1870; Census Place: Township 11 Range 8, Macoupin, Illinois; Roll M593_250 page 303 Taken the 18 June Robert Ross 68 Priscilla Conlee Thomas Ross 50 Mary Eliza Ross 22 Martha Ross 8 Sanona Ross 6 Robert died in October 1870 leaving Priscilla and the two younger girls, I presume. I tried to find them on the 1880 census and no luck. Any suggestions? Marita Gladson, M.A. MFT Exec. Director Saboba's Hope,Inc. Fullerton, Ca 714-773-5172

Ah Ha, I will send another email, shortly. Sharon Going backwards to go forward - grin If this is your family, there is lots more info available. Some are buried in a Ross - ?? Cemetery, Palmyra. Pricilla d. 17 Feb 1893 in Waverly, Morgan, Illinois. Chances are that the two young girls are HERs, not his. Pricilla and Robert were m. 1865, and Martha was b. abt 1862, Sanona abt 1864. xxxxxxxx Seems that Robert was m. 3 times. First wife & children: Elizabeth Howerton Ross Born: 2 Jan 1802 in [city], Sumner, Tennessee, USA Died: 26 Feb 1836 in [city], Macoupin, Illinois, USA Marriage: 13 Nov 1823 in [city], Sumner, Tennessee, USA Children Sex Birth Thomas B Ross M 1823 in [city], Sumner, Tennessee, USA Reuben M Ross M 1826 in [city], Macoupin, Illinois, USA William G Ross M 1827 in [city], Sumner, Tennessee, USA John H Ross M 1829 James M Ross M 8 Sep 1831 in [city], Macoupin, Illinois, USA Ezekiel H Ross M 1834 Elizabeth H Ross F 13 Nov 1835 in Macoupin, [county], Illinois, USA xxxxxxxx 2nd wife & children: Mary Ann Hunt Born: 19 June 1802 Died: 25 Jun 1861 in Palmyra, [county], Illinois, USA Marriage: 23 Aug 1836 in [city], Macoupin, Illinois, USA Children Sex Birth Benjamin F Ross M 17 Nov 1837 in [city], Macoupin, Illinois, USA Sarah J Ross F 17 Jan 1839 in [city], Macoupin, Illinois, USA Martha A Ross F 25 Jun 1840 in [city], Macoupin, Illinois, USA Susan Catherine Ross F 20 Feb 1842 in South Palmyra Township, Macoupin, Illinois, USA Mary E Ross F 20 May 1848 in [city], Macoupin, Illinois, USA xxxxxxxxx Third wife - no children? Priscilla Conlee Thomas Born: 6 Jul 1819 in Morgan, [county], Illinois, USA Died: 17 Feb 1893 in Waverly, Morgan, Illinois, USA Marriage: 1865 xxxxxxxxx Illinois Marriages, 1790-1860 about Robert Ross Name: Robert Ross Spouse: Mary Ann Stanfield [previously m. to Joel Stanfield, maiden name Hunt] Date: 23 Aug 1836 [or Oct ?] County: MacOupin State: Illinois Source: Family History Library, Salt Lake City, UT Microfilm: 1320490 - 1320491 xxxxxxxx 1850 United States Federal Census about Robert Ross Name: Robert Ross Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1802 Birth Place: North Carolina Gender: Male Home in 1850(City,County,State): Macoupin, Illinois Robert Ross 48, b. NC Mary A Ross 47, b. KY [d. 24 June 1861, Palmyra, Macoupin, IL] Greenbury Stanfield 24, b. KY [Step-son] John H Ross 22, b. IL James M Ross 18 Ezekiel Ross 17 Elizabeth H Ross 13 Benjamin F Ross 12 Sarah J Ross 11 Martha A Ross 10 Susan R Ross 8 Mary E Ross 2 xxxxxxxxx 1860 United States Federal Census about Robert Ross Name: Robert Ross Age in 1860: 59 Birth Year: abt 1801 Birthplace: North Carolina Home in 1860: Township 11 Range 8, Macoupin, Illinois Gender: Male Post Office: Palmyra Value of real estate: View image Household Members: Name Age Robert Ross 59 Mary A Ross 58 William G Ross 32 Mary E Ross 12 Samuel Fortner 13 Mary A Fortner 8 xxxxxxxxx On 13 Aug 2009 at 11:34, Marita Gladson wrote: I am transcribing copies of the various census for Macoupin to the Census sheets to make storage easier. When doing the 1870; Census Place: Township 11 Range 8, Macoupin, Illinois; Roll M593_250 page 303 Taken the 18 June Robert Ross 68 Priscilla Conlee Thomas Ross 50 Mary Eliza Ross 22 Martha Ross 8 Sanona Ross 6 Robert died in October 1870 leaving Priscilla and the two younger girls, I presume. I tried to find them on the 1880 census and no luck. Any suggestions?

Perhaps Priscilla remarried, and the two younger girls are living with her but incorrectly listed with their step-father's surname. Or perhaps TB carried them off. Just worked on a family this week that lost three children to TB between 1924 and 1931. Marsha L. Ensminger --- On Thu, 8/13/09, Marita Gladson <maritag@earthlink.net> wrote: > From: Marita Gladson <maritag@earthlink.net> > Subject: [ILMACOUP] Intresting puzzle > To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com > Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 11:34 AM > I am transcribing copies of the > various census for Macoupin to the  > Census sheets to make storage easier. > > When doing the 1870; Census Place: Township 11 Range 8, > Macoupin,  > Illinois; Roll  M593_250 page 303 Taken the 18 > June  Robert Ross  68  > Priscilla Conlee Thomas Ross  50 Mary Eliza Ross  > 22 Martha Ross  8  > Sanona Ross  6 > > Robert died in October 1870 leaving Priscilla and the two > younger  > girls, I presume.  I tried to find them on the 1880 > census and  no luck. > > Any suggestions? > > > Marita Gladson, M.A. MFT > Exec. Director > Saboba's Hope,Inc. > Fullerton, Ca > 714-773-5172 > www.sabobashope.net > www.sabobamedicalcentre.net > Video    http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=17750846 > Saboba Medical Centre > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhbVAVzy4 > Saboba's Children > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8PHn5NUZSU > > > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

I am transcribing copies of the various census for Macoupin to the Census sheets to make storage easier. When doing the 1870; Census Place: Township 11 Range 8, Macoupin, Illinois; Roll M593_250 page 303 Taken the 18 June Robert Ross 68 Priscilla Conlee Thomas Ross 50 Mary Eliza Ross 22 Martha Ross 8 Sanona Ross 6 Robert died in October 1870 leaving Priscilla and the two younger girls, I presume. I tried to find them on the 1880 census and no luck. Any suggestions? Marita Gladson, M.A. MFT Exec. Director Saboba's Hope,Inc. Fullerton, Ca 714-773-5172 www.sabobashope.net www.sabobamedicalcentre.net Video http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=17750846 Saboba Medical Centre http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhbVAVzy4 Saboba's Children http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8PHn5NUZSU

Thank you all, once again, for because of you, I have been given a lot of pertinent information in a matter of a few days.  You all have been very kind to share your knowledge and suggestions. Thank you! Thomas W Johnson "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls." Matthew 11:28-29 NIV

Gloria the tax record look wonderful. Thanks for the configuration that makes them so easily accessed. The pictures of the pages are great too.

I think this should be S.W to go along with the same person on page 104. I looking at the writing on the page I think it is and S Hodges, L W 120 1845

Gloria, Thanks much - it's great to have those tax records available. Please know it's appreciated - thank you and everyone else who made it happen. Carl On Aug 12, 2009, at 1:23 PM, G Frazier wrote: > I don't know about plat books but we just put up the 1845 tax > assessor book > (not proofread): > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/1845tax/index.html > includes land descriptions. > > and I am in the process of adding land description pages to the 1840: > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/1840tax/index.html > Too busy wayyyy back when to add them. Thot the names at the time > were the > most important. > > Otherwise, the deed indexes at the courthouse would be the surefire > way of > getting land descriptions. > > Gloria > > At 02:06 PM 8/12/2009, you wrote: >> Are there land ownership plat books for Macoupin County for the 1830s >> or 1840s? >> Carl Stedman >> >> On Aug 12, 2009, at 12:31 PM, sjlbuethner-sheminee@att.net wrote: >> >>> The 1875 Macoupin County Atlas shows T. Silberzahn owning 40 >>> acres in >>> Section 9 and 40 Acres in Section 10 [next to each other] with the >>> house in >>> Section 10. This is about 5 miles East of Chesterfield, 1 mile >>> South, or >>> about 2 miles North of Macoupin Station and a little over a mile >>> West. >>> There appear to be no cemeteries close to this land. >>> >>> P. Geiger owns the land in 1895 [Plat Book]. >>> >>> The 1900 Federal Census shows a Phillip Geiger, 72, widowed, >>> living in >>> Carlinville, with son, Jacob; d. in law, Elizabeth; and 3 >>> Grandsons. Does >>> not appear to be related. >>> >>> Naturalization Index - Macoupin County GenWeb >>> Index I - Vol. 13, Page 27 SILBERZAHN, Thomas; >>> xxxxxxxx >>> >>> 1880 United States Federal Census >>> about Thomas Silverzahn >>> Name: Thomas Silverzahn >>> Home in 1880: Polk, Macoupin, Illinois >>> Age: 49 >>> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 >>> Birthplace: Baden >>> Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) >>> Spouse's Name: Mary >>> Father's birthplace: Baden >>> Mother's birthplace: Baden >>> Neighbors: View others on page >>> Occupation: Farmer >>> Marital Status: Married >>> Race: White >>> Gender: Male >>> Household Members: Name Age >>> Thomas Silverzahn 49 >>> Mary Silverzahn 50 >>> Mary Silverzahn 20 >>> xxxxxx >>> >>> 1870 United States Federal Census >>> about Thos Silverson >>> Name: Thos Silverson >>> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 >>> Age in 1870: 39 >>> Birthplace: Baden >>> Home in 1870: Township 9 Range 8, Macoupin, Illinois >>> Race: White >>> Gender: Male >>> Value of real estate: View image >>> Post Office: Plainview >>> Household Members: Name Age >>> Thos Silverson 39 >>> Mary Silverson 40 >>> Mary Silverson 10 >>> xxxxxxxxxx >>> >>> >>> Hope some of this helps, >>> >>> Sharon >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 12 Aug 2009 at 4:32, Thomas Johnson wrote: >>> >>> Thank you, very much, Linda! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you >>> >>> rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and >>> >>> humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls." >>> >>> Matthew 11:28-29 NIV >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >>> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP- >>> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in >>> the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http:// >>> www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP- >>> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http:// > www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Some at Ellis site but 1899 and later butttt if you could run some of the family down.... http://www.ellisisland.org/search/passSearch.asp Might give you more area maillists of Germany to ck out. http://www.worldgenweb.org/~ceneurogenweb/ Write to the Silberzahn addresses at Anywho: http://www.anywho.com/ or call. I have never had a bad genealogy interview on the phone. Gloria At 03:11 PM 8/12/2009, you wrote: >Dear Marita, Linda, Sharon, and Gloria ! > >Thank you all very much for the information you kindly provided I am >related to a Michael >Silberzahn who lived in a northern suburb of Chicago (Niles Center). I >know WHERE he >lived, WHEN he died, but I have absolutely NO idea from whence he came, >other than Baden, >nor any names of siblings. In an effort to determine the unknown, I am >trying to obtain >Silberzahn info in general - with hopes of finding even the smallest of >links. I have inquired >with the Cook County list, the Baden list, Rootsweb surname list, >GeneaNet, Kindred Kousins, >and reviewed FamilySearch.org - it seems ol' Mike >just...."poof"...appeared from nowhere! > >Thank you again! >Tom > >"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you > >rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and > >humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls." > >Matthew 11:28-29 NIV > > > > > > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well, Sharon got you the name of a town, Raiser, in Baden, which might be a great lead. Will see what the Nat papers say. I must warn you that some are very complete and some are so short and sweet as to be useless. Will know Friday which yours is. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Johnson" <bachjohanns@yahoo.com> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:11 PM Subject: [ILMACOUP] Silberzahn Dear Marita, Linda, Sharon, and Gloria ! Thank you all very much for the information you kindly provided I am related to a Michael Silberzahn who lived in a northern suburb of Chicago (Niles Center). I know WHERE he lived, WHEN he died, but I have absolutely NO idea from whence he came, other than Baden, nor any names of siblings. In an effort to determine the unknown, I am trying to obtain Silberzahn info in general - with hopes of finding even the smallest of links. I have inquired with the Cook County list, the Baden list, Rootsweb surname list, GeneaNet, Kindred Kousins, and reviewed FamilySearch.org - it seems ol' Mike just...."poof"...appeared from nowhere! Thank you again! Tom "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls." Matthew 11:28-29 NIV Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't know about plat books but we just put up the 1845 tax assessor book (not proofread): http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/1845tax/index.html includes land descriptions. and I am in the process of adding land description pages to the 1840: http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/1840tax/index.html Too busy wayyyy back when to add them. Thot the names at the time were the most important. Otherwise, the deed indexes at the courthouse would be the surefire way of getting land descriptions. Gloria At 02:06 PM 8/12/2009, you wrote: >Are there land ownership plat books for Macoupin County for the 1830s >or 1840s? >Carl Stedman > >On Aug 12, 2009, at 12:31 PM, sjlbuethner-sheminee@att.net wrote: > > > The 1875 Macoupin County Atlas shows T. Silberzahn owning 40 acres in > > Section 9 and 40 Acres in Section 10 [next to each other] with the > > house in > > Section 10. This is about 5 miles East of Chesterfield, 1 mile > > South, or > > about 2 miles North of Macoupin Station and a little over a mile > > West. > > There appear to be no cemeteries close to this land. > > > > P. Geiger owns the land in 1895 [Plat Book]. > > > > The 1900 Federal Census shows a Phillip Geiger, 72, widowed, > > living in > > Carlinville, with son, Jacob; d. in law, Elizabeth; and 3 > > Grandsons. Does > > not appear to be related. > > > > Naturalization Index - Macoupin County GenWeb > > Index I - Vol. 13, Page 27 SILBERZAHN, Thomas; > > xxxxxxxx > > > > 1880 United States Federal Census > > about Thomas Silverzahn > > Name: Thomas Silverzahn > > Home in 1880: Polk, Macoupin, Illinois > > Age: 49 > > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 > > Birthplace: Baden > > Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) > > Spouse's Name: Mary > > Father's birthplace: Baden > > Mother's birthplace: Baden > > Neighbors: View others on page > > Occupation: Farmer > > Marital Status: Married > > Race: White > > Gender: Male > > Household Members: Name Age > > Thomas Silverzahn 49 > > Mary Silverzahn 50 > > Mary Silverzahn 20 > > xxxxxx > > > > 1870 United States Federal Census > > about Thos Silverson > > Name: Thos Silverson > > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 > > Age in 1870: 39 > > Birthplace: Baden > > Home in 1870: Township 9 Range 8, Macoupin, Illinois > > Race: White > > Gender: Male > > Value of real estate: View image > > Post Office: Plainview > > Household Members: Name Age > > Thos Silverson 39 > > Mary Silverson 40 > > Mary Silverson 10 > > xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > Hope some of this helps, > > > > Sharon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12 Aug 2009 at 4:32, Thomas Johnson wrote: > > > > Thank you, very much, Linda! > > > > > > > > > > "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you > > > > rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and > > > > humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls." > > > > Matthew 11:28-29 NIV > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP- > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http:// > > www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP- > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

IF it isn't tooooo hot and the stone can be found and READABLE, I will try to take digital pic. Otherwise, I am old. Gloria At 01:46 PM 8/12/2009, you wrote: >Carlinville City Cemetery Carlinville Twp Section D (central east section) >Silberzahn, J. T. April 2, 1831 - no death date >Silberzahn, Maria A. - 56yrs 8mos 25das - Feb 15, 1887 > >At 01:31 PM 8/12/2009, you wrote: > >The 1875 Macoupin County Atlas shows T. Silberzahn owning 40 acres in > >Section 9 and 40 Acres in Section 10 [next to each other] with the house in > >Section 10. This is about 5 miles East of Chesterfield, 1 mile South, or > >about 2 miles North of Macoupin Station and a little over a mile West. > >There appear to be no cemeteries close to this land. > > > >P. Geiger owns the land in 1895 [Plat Book]. > > > >The 1900 Federal Census shows a Phillip Geiger, 72, widowed, living in > >Carlinville, with son, Jacob; d. in law, Elizabeth; and 3 Grandsons. Does > >not appear to be related. > > > >Naturalization Index - Macoupin County GenWeb > >Index I - Vol. 13, Page 27 SILBERZAHN, Thomas; > >xxxxxxxx > > > >1880 United States Federal Census > >about Thomas Silverzahn > >Name: Thomas Silverzahn > >Home in 1880: Polk, Macoupin, Illinois > >Age: 49 > >Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 > >Birthplace: Baden > >Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) > >Spouse's Name: Mary > >Father's birthplace: Baden > >Mother's birthplace: Baden > >Neighbors: View others on page > >Occupation: Farmer > >Marital Status: Married > >Race: White > >Gender: Male > >Household Members: Name Age > >Thomas Silverzahn 49 > >Mary Silverzahn 50 > >Mary Silverzahn 20 > >xxxxxx > > > >1870 United States Federal Census > >about Thos Silverson > >Name: Thos Silverson > >Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 > >Age in 1870: 39 > >Birthplace: Baden > >Home in 1870: Township 9 Range 8, Macoupin, Illinois > >Race: White > >Gender: Male > >Value of real estate: View image > >Post Office: Plainview > >Household Members: Name Age > >Thos Silverson 39 > >Mary Silverson 40 > >Mary Silverson 10 > >xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > >Hope some of this helps, > > > >Sharon > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On 12 Aug 2009 at 4:32, Thomas Johnson wrote: > > > >Thank you, very much, Linda! > > > > > > > > > >"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you > > > >rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and > > > >humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls." > > > >Matthew 11:28-29 NIV > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP- > >request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > >the subject and the body of the message > > > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

LOL, I will take a stab at it. The NE 1/4 of the NE 1/4 of Sec 9, of TWP 9N, Range 8W of 3rd PM [40 acres] And The NW 1/4 of the NW 1/4 of Sec 10, TWP 9N, Range 8W of 3rd PM [40 acres] Thomas Silberzahn stated he immigrated in 1858, so there would be nothing before then. Also, his wife, Mary/Maria immigrated in 1857 suggesting that they were married in the USA. Also, the cemetery records show J. T. Silberzahn [assume it is J. Thomas]. I have seen John and Jacob as given names and most of my German ancestors used a middle name as a given name. Sharon On 12 Aug 2009 at 14:23, G Frazier wrote: I don't know about plat books but we just put up the 1845 tax assessor book (not proofread): http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/1845tax/index.html includes land descriptions. and I am in the process of adding land description pages to the 1840: http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/1840tax/index.html Too busy wayyyy back when to add them. Thot the names at the time were the most important. Otherwise, the deed indexes at the courthouse would be the surefire way of getting land descriptions. Gloria At 02:06 PM 8/12/2009, you wrote: >Are there land ownership plat books for Macoupin County for the 1830s >or 1840s? >Carl Stedman > >On Aug 12, 2009, at 12:31 PM, sjlbuethner-sheminee@att.net wrote: > > > The 1875 Macoupin County Atlas shows T. Silberzahn owning 40 acres in > > Section 9 and 40 Acres in Section 10 [next to each other] with the > > house in > > Section 10. This is about 5 miles East of Chesterfield, 1 mile > > South, or > > about 2 miles North of Macoupin Station and a little over a mile > > West. > > There appear to be no cemeteries close to this land. > > > > P. Geiger owns the land in 1895 [Plat Book]. > > > > The 1900 Federal Census shows a Phillip Geiger, 72, widowed, > > living in > > Carlinville, with son, Jacob; d. in law, Elizabeth; and 3 > > Grandsons. Does > > not appear to be related. > > > > Naturalization Index - Macoupin County GenWeb > > Index I - Vol. 13, Page 27 SILBERZAHN, Thomas; > > xxxxxxxx > > > > 1880 United States Federal Census > > about Thomas Silverzahn > > Name: Thomas Silverzahn > > Home in 1880: Polk, Macoupin, Illinois > > Age: 49 > > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 > > Birthplace: Baden > > Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) > > Spouse's Name: Mary > > Father's birthplace: Baden > > Mother's birthplace: Baden > > Neighbors: View others on page > > Occupation: Farmer > > Marital Status: Married > > Race: White > > Gender: Male > > Household Members: Name Age > > Thomas Silverzahn 49 > > Mary Silverzahn 50 > > Mary Silverzahn 20 > > xxxxxx > > > > 1870 United States Federal Census > > about Thos Silverson > > Name: Thos Silverson > > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 > > Age in 1870: 39 > > Birthplace: Baden > > Home in 1870: Township 9 Range 8, Macoupin, Illinois > > Race: White > > Gender: Male > > Value of real estate: View image > > Post Office: Plainview > > Household Members: Name Age > > Thos Silverson 39 > > Mary Silverson 40 > > Mary Silverson 10 > > xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > Hope some of this helps, > > > > Sharon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12 Aug 2009 at 4:32, Thomas Johnson wrote: > > > > Thank you, very much, Linda! > > > > > > > > > > "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you > > > > rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and > > > > humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls." > > > > Matthew 11:28-29 NIV > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP- > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http:// > > www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP- > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carlinville City Cemetery Carlinville Twp Section D (central east section) Silberzahn, J. T. April 2, 1831 - no death date Silberzahn, Maria A. - 56yrs 8mos 25das - Feb 15, 1887 At 01:31 PM 8/12/2009, you wrote: >The 1875 Macoupin County Atlas shows T. Silberzahn owning 40 acres in >Section 9 and 40 Acres in Section 10 [next to each other] with the house in >Section 10. This is about 5 miles East of Chesterfield, 1 mile South, or >about 2 miles North of Macoupin Station and a little over a mile West. >There appear to be no cemeteries close to this land. > >P. Geiger owns the land in 1895 [Plat Book]. > >The 1900 Federal Census shows a Phillip Geiger, 72, widowed, living in >Carlinville, with son, Jacob; d. in law, Elizabeth; and 3 Grandsons. Does >not appear to be related. > >Naturalization Index - Macoupin County GenWeb >Index I - Vol. 13, Page 27 SILBERZAHN, Thomas; >xxxxxxxx > >1880 United States Federal Census >about Thomas Silverzahn >Name: Thomas Silverzahn >Home in 1880: Polk, Macoupin, Illinois >Age: 49 >Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 >Birthplace: Baden >Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) >Spouse's Name: Mary >Father's birthplace: Baden >Mother's birthplace: Baden >Neighbors: View others on page >Occupation: Farmer >Marital Status: Married >Race: White >Gender: Male >Household Members: Name Age >Thomas Silverzahn 49 >Mary Silverzahn 50 >Mary Silverzahn 20 >xxxxxx > >1870 United States Federal Census >about Thos Silverson >Name: Thos Silverson >Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 >Age in 1870: 39 >Birthplace: Baden >Home in 1870: Township 9 Range 8, Macoupin, Illinois >Race: White >Gender: Male >Value of real estate: View image >Post Office: Plainview >Household Members: Name Age >Thos Silverson 39 >Mary Silverson 40 >Mary Silverson 10 >xxxxxxxxxx > > >Hope some of this helps, > >Sharon > > > > > > >On 12 Aug 2009 at 4:32, Thomas Johnson wrote: > >Thank you, very much, Linda! > > > > >"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you > >rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and > >humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls." > >Matthew 11:28-29 NIV > > > > > > > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP- >request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message