Thanks Debbi -- what a great idea! They use sheep around here to clean off the fields after the crops have been harvested. Maybe some goats or a few sheep could be sent to Killam Cemetery in South Palmyra so "tall boots, lots of bug spray and a weapon" aren't required equipment to visit that cemetery. Linda Arnold Menifee, California In a message dated 12/20/2009 8:41:13 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, dgirth@yahoo.com writes: Below my sign-off is a posting from the Boone surname mail list and thought I would share with some other mail lists I belong in case someone is trying to figure out a way to clean up an unmaintained cemetery and don't want to damage any unseen gravestones. It may sound stupid but consider the gravestones won't be damaged as machines or implements might do when you have no idea what's under the brush or tall grasses. A suggestion by the original submitter was to put the goats on a chain when there is no fence around the cemetery. Debbi Geer Using Goats to Clear a Cemetery Four sturdy goats are doing their part to uncover up to 30 grave sites at the Ballard Family Cemetery in Henderson County, North Carolina. The brambles and underbrush were so thick it was hard to see anything, much less walk around. The free labor is supplied by goats on loan from Henderson County Magistrate Sandra Laughter. It's hard to tell what's here until we clean it out," says Toby Linville, the county staff member for the Henderson County Cemetery Advisory Committee. Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marita, Did you photograph the Hodges Cemetery when you visited it? If so, could save someone else a trip... Thanks. Carolynn ----- Original Message ----- From: <ilmacoup-request@rootsweb.com> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 2:00 AM Subject: ILMACOUP Digest, Vol 4, Issue 194 > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Etter Cemetery S. Palmyra Twp (Marita Gladson) > 2. Re: Etter Cemetery S. Palmyra Twp (Rick) > 3. WILLIAM and WALLS (G Frazier) > 4. Using Goats to Clear a Cemetery (Debbi Geer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 13:11:15 -0800 > From: Marita Gladson <maritag@earthlink.net> > Subject: [ILMACOUP] Etter Cemetery S. Palmyra Twp > To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <F8D8AF6F-279C-40A6-987F-8A85B45CA1AD@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Has any ever tried to photograph the tombstones at Etter Cemetery S. > Palmyra Twp or the Hodges Cemetery in So . Palmyra? > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:39:13 -0600 > From: "Rick" <hmdoty@madisontelco.com> > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Etter Cemetery S. Palmyra Twp > To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <69E8AEA1580E4AF28BEEE706BFD8C0A3@RickPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Etter was done a few years ago > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/cemetery/etter.html I haven't been to > Hodges yet if nobody else gets it maybe I can try this coming year. > Rick > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marita Gladson" <maritag@earthlink.net> > To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 3:11 PM > Subject: [ILMACOUP] Etter Cemetery S. Palmyra Twp > > >> Has any ever tried to photograph the tombstones at Etter Cemetery S. >> Palmyra Twp or the Hodges Cemetery in So . Palmyra? >> >> >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 21:41:05 -0500 > From: G Frazier <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> > Subject: [ILMACOUP] WILLIAM and WALLS > To: ILMACOUP@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <6.0.0.14.1.20091220203646.01d488f8@pop.earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Can anyone help George? > Gloria > >>Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:01:27 -0800 (PST) >>From: GEORGE WILLIAMS <gfpaw2@sbcglobal.net> >>Subject: Cemetery recors etc. >>To: macoupincounty@earthlink.net >>Cc: George Williams <gfpaw2@sbcglobal.net> >> >> >>Do you have anyone & what would the cost be for someone to research for >>records having to do with Williams L Williams b;11-28-1849 d; may 15, >>1897, m; 1-28-68 to Temperance Walls b 11-29-1850 d; feb 16,1926. I am >>looking for death, cemetary record, obits.,or family history of the >>Williams. I have the 50,60,70 of his parents, William and Dianna (do not >>have maiden name)Williams, father and mother of William L Williams. They >>were in North Otter in 1880, in Macoupin County, 73 yrs old, born in Tenn. >>about 1807. George F Williams ph. 785 272 7768. 1033 SW Crest Dr. Topeka >>Ks. 66604. >>Thank you for any help possible. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 20:40:06 -0800 (PST) > From: Debbi Geer <dgirth@yahoo.com> > Subject: [ILMACOUP] Using Goats to Clear a Cemetery > To: Macoupin Co IL <ilmacoup-L@rootsweb.com>, Madison Co IL > <ilmadiso-L@rootsweb.com>, Dunklin Co MO <modunkli-L@rootsweb.com>, > Jersey Co IL <iljersey-L@rootsweb.com>, Greene Co IL > <ilgreene-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <882365.56645.qm@web111403.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Below my sign-off is a posting from the Boone surname mail list and > thought I would share with some other mail lists I belong in case someone > is trying to figure out a way to clean up an unmaintained cemetery and > don't want to damage any unseen gravestones.? It may sound stupid but > consider the gravestones won't be damaged as machines or implements might > do when you have no idea what's under the brush or tall grasses.? A > suggestion by the original submitter was to put the goats on a chain when > there is no fence around the cemetery. > > Debbi Geer > > > Using Goats to Clear a Cemetery > > Four sturdy goats are doing their part to uncover up to 30 grave sites at > the? Ballard Family Cemetery in Henderson County, North Carolina. The > brambles and? underbrush were so thick it was hard to see anything, much > less walk around. The? free labor is supplied by goats on loan from > Henderson County Magistrate Sandra? Laughter. > > It's hard to tell what's here until we clean it out," says Toby Linville, > the? county staff member for the Henderson County Cemetery Advisory > Committee. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ILMACOUP list administrator, send an email to > ILMACOUP-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ILMACOUP mailing list, send an email to > ILMACOUP@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ILMACOUP Digest, Vol 4, Issue 194 > ****************************************

I have added eight more names to the fatalities list. AGRESCH, ALDEFER, De NRIES, GERLOCK, MARTINETTI, REITER, SCHULTZE, THOMPSON http://gillespieil.com/gillespie/minefatal.html Wayne http://gillespieil.com/gillespie/

Can anyone help George? Gloria >Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:01:27 -0800 (PST) >From: GEORGE WILLIAMS <gfpaw2@sbcglobal.net> >Subject: Cemetery recors etc. >To: macoupincounty@earthlink.net >Cc: George Williams <gfpaw2@sbcglobal.net> > > >Do you have anyone & what would the cost be for someone to research for >records having to do with Williams L Williams b;11-28-1849 d; may 15, >1897, m; 1-28-68 to Temperance Walls b 11-29-1850 d; feb 16,1926. I am >looking for death, cemetary record, obits.,or family history of the >Williams. I have the 50,60,70 of his parents, William and Dianna (do not >have maiden name)Williams, father and mother of William L Williams. They >were in North Otter in 1880, in Macoupin County, 73 yrs old, born in Tenn. >about 1807. George F Williams ph. 785 272 7768. 1033 SW Crest Dr. Topeka >Ks. 66604. >Thank you for any help possible.

Below my sign-off is a posting from the Boone surname mail list and thought I would share with some other mail lists I belong in case someone is trying to figure out a way to clean up an unmaintained cemetery and don't want to damage any unseen gravestones.  It may sound stupid but consider the gravestones won't be damaged as machines or implements might do when you have no idea what's under the brush or tall grasses.  A suggestion by the original submitter was to put the goats on a chain when there is no fence around the cemetery. Debbi Geer Using Goats to Clear a Cemetery Four sturdy goats are doing their part to uncover up to 30 grave sites at the  Ballard Family Cemetery in Henderson County, North Carolina. The brambles and  underbrush were so thick it was hard to see anything, much less walk around. The  free labor is supplied by goats on loan from Henderson County Magistrate Sandra  Laughter. It's hard to tell what's here until we clean it out," says Toby Linville, the  county staff member for the Henderson County Cemetery Advisory Committee.

Etter was done a few years ago http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/cemetery/etter.html I haven't been to Hodges yet if nobody else gets it maybe I can try this coming year. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marita Gladson" <maritag@earthlink.net> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 3:11 PM Subject: [ILMACOUP] Etter Cemetery S. Palmyra Twp > Has any ever tried to photograph the tombstones at Etter Cemetery S. > Palmyra Twp or the Hodges Cemetery in So . Palmyra? > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ha, didn't mean this to go to the list. Now, you know how much stuff and how old it is in my inbox. yuk gf At 03:10 PM 12/20/2009, you wrote: >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/family/enos.html > >I put your family here. Anything you want to add, let me know. > >Gloria > > >At 10:31 PM 6/6/2009, you wrote: > > >Hugh Miles Enos was one of the pioneers of Macoupin Cnty IL arriving there > >sometime about 1850 after a reported trip to the gold fields of > >California. In 1856 he married an English lass, Mary White in Macoupin and > >settled there. His homesite and little community once appeared on the maps > >as Enos Station, Bird Twp. > > > > > > > >Their children were: (all Enos, all born Enos Station, Bird Twp) > > > > > > > >John J. b. 1857 mar. and children unk > > > > > > > >Thomas William b. 1859 mar. Eliz. Waters, three children; Victor, Fern and > >Ralph > > > > > > > >Sarah A. b. 1861 mar. Lewis Waters, children unk > > > > > > > >James E. b. 1862 d. 1829 mar. and children unk > > > > > > > >Hugh Miles Jr. b. 1865 mar. Laura Mcginnis three children Leon, Melvin and > >Lillian > > > > > > > >Elvira L. b. 1868 mar and children unk > > > > > > > >Edmund b. 1869 died about 10 mo old > > > > > > > >Amelia M. b. 1872 m. Bottomly(?) children and dod unk > > > > > > > >If you have other information on this family or are descended from them I > >would enjoy sharing with you. > > > > > > > >Jim Enos > > > >Kona HI > > > >enosgen@msn.com > > > > > > > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Has 10 asterisks for the "to do" stuff. Thanks, Sharon. gf At 01:57 PM 12/20/2009, you wrote: >Hi Gloria, > >I have been meaning to write you about my Gr.Grandmother's listing not >shown in the >Immanuel Lutheran Cemetery, Mt Olive, Macoupin, IL. > >The information was included in the Cemetery Book [I believe I submitted >it] but it is not >included in the on-line Cemetery listing. > >I had submitted the info for the book as there are no stones on the plot, >and I have a photo >copy of the Immanuel Lutheran Church burial page, showing the three people >who are buried >on that plot. > >The first burial was within days of them arriving in Mt Olive [the ship >docked in Baltimore July >21, 1892 and on August 2, 1892, they buried their young son, Friedrich >Wilhelm Bernard >Schultze, age 5 months, 22 days of age in Immanuel Lutheran Church >cemetery (First >Division, Block Two, Lot Two), Mt. Olive, IL. > >Not quite a year later, on July 25, 1893, Gr Grandfather, Henry Schultz >[Wilhelm Heinrich >Schultze], b. abt 13 July 1859 Germany, d. 2 July 1893 in a tragic mine >accident: >MASHED TO A PULP >HENRY SCHULTZE , A LOADER AT NO. 8 SHAFT, KILLED TUESDAY >AFTERNOON BY FALLING ROCK. > >The full text of the front page newspaper article I submitted and is up on >the Macoupin >County GenWeb pages. I am not sure is Wayne wants this info for his pages >on miners that >lost their lives in the mines or not ?? He is welcome to include it. > >The third burial on the plot is that of my Gr Grandmother, Juliana Augusta >[Barkowsky] >Schultze, Hillmann. Augusta Hillmann, as she was known by, was b. 14 Dec >1868 Germany >and d. 6 August 1911 Litchfield, Montgomery, IL [in the hospital, >there]. She was buried next >to her first husband and her young son on the 8 August 1911. > >I am not sure where her 2nd husband, John Hillmann / Hillman is buried, >and I would NOT >list him on the cemetery listing. I need to see if I can find a record of >his burial [he d. 17 Mar >1917 at the state hospital in Jackson], and his obit does not give a clue >to where he was >buried. He is not listed on this plot in the Church Burial Book. I >suspect that he is buried >there or at a cemetery in Montgomery County were his parents lived, but he >is not shown with >them, either [Asbury Cemetery]. > >I hope to someday put up a marker on the plot for my GrGrandparents, and I >sure would be >open for any ideas of what type to put up. > >Thanks, Gloria for all your hard work, > >Sharon Buethner > > > > > > >On 20 Dec 2009 at 12:57, G Frazier wrote: > > >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/cemetery/index.html >Rick found a buried stone in Immanuel Lutheran, Mt Olive Twp >Theodore H Werner 2 July 1887 25 March 1952 Ill Pvt. 1 Development Bn WW1 > >Rick added 359 gravestone pics for Memorial Park Staunton and 367 >gravestone pics for Calvary Cemetery Mt Olive. I have them uploaded. He is >working on 1700 Benld City gravestone pics... We will not go blind...we >will not go blind....while doing what we love to do..... > >Additions of gravestone pics from Betty Moake: >Pleasant Hill >Gilead Baptist >Panther Creek >Virden > >Diane Loy sent gravestone pics for 10 cems. I have finished uploading 298 >Summerville Cem gravestone pics, Chesterfield Twp. Working on the other >nine cems. >============================== >WPA Cemetery transcriptions for >Stewart Cemetery >Union Chapel >====================== >4 cem pics from Jean Jung for Calvary at Mt Olive >==================== >Added to marriages from Dan Bryant >MATLOCK, Jesse B. and Miss Mary S. ABBOTT both of Macoupin Co IL, 22 Nov >1856, married at Alton Madison Co IL, Joseph EARP, Pastor of M.E.C. >added to the marriages >---------------------------------------- >New query/surnames: >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/queries/qryindex.html >My name is Heather Cason, my >email: <mailto:rozey98@yahoo.com>rozey98@yahoo.com >I am researching the following families: >Percy, Charles Lee born in 1914 in Carlinville married Hutton, Pearl Louise >born in 1916 in Honey Point >Percy, Robert James born in 1890 in Carlinville married Hinthorn, Ethel >born in 1894 in Carlinville >Percy, William P. married Seaman, Mary E.. born in 1867 >-------------------------------- >Hello! >While browsing in an antique store recently, I saw a lovely framed Marriage >Certificate for Charles Marth and Louise Schaum, both of Bunker Hill, >Illinois. They were married Oct. 23, 1895. Much of the certificate is in >German. >The store was Early Tymes Antiques in Moscow Mills, MO. Phone number there >is 636-356-4322. Email address there is: ekautz@centurytel.net >Hope this item makes it way back to a family descendant. >Sincerely, >Lois Hunziker >(Note: if anyone gets this marriage cert, please notify the county >coordinator so this note can be removed from the marriage site leaving the >data. Thanks.) >------------------------------------------ > >Gloria > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >of the message > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/family/enos.html I put your family here. Anything you want to add, let me know. Gloria At 10:31 PM 6/6/2009, you wrote: >Hugh Miles Enos was one of the pioneers of Macoupin Cnty IL arriving there >sometime about 1850 after a reported trip to the gold fields of >California. In 1856 he married an English lass, Mary White in Macoupin and >settled there. His homesite and little community once appeared on the maps >as Enos Station, Bird Twp. > > > >Their children were: (all Enos, all born Enos Station, Bird Twp) > > > >John J. b. 1857 mar. and children unk > > > >Thomas William b. 1859 mar. Eliz. Waters, three children; Victor, Fern and >Ralph > > > >Sarah A. b. 1861 mar. Lewis Waters, children unk > > > >James E. b. 1862 d. 1829 mar. and children unk > > > >Hugh Miles Jr. b. 1865 mar. Laura Mcginnis three children Leon, Melvin and >Lillian > > > >Elvira L. b. 1868 mar and children unk > > > >Edmund b. 1869 died about 10 mo old > > > >Amelia M. b. 1872 m. Bottomly(?) children and dod unk > > > >If you have other information on this family or are descended from them I >would enjoy sharing with you. > > > >Jim Enos > >Kona HI > >enosgen@msn.com > > > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: <sjlbuethner-sheminee@att.net> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Dec 2009 #1 Little bit of this n that > I am not sure where her 2nd husband, John Hillmann / Hillman is buried, > and I would NOT > list him on the cemetery listing. I need to see if I can find a record of > his burial [he d. 17 Mar > 1917 at the state hospital in Jackson], and his obit does not give a clue > to where he was > buried. He is not listed on this plot in the Church Burial Book. I > suspect that he is buried > there or at a cemetery in Montgomery County were his parents lived, but he > is not shown with > them, either [Asbury Cemetery]. Have you contacted the Becker & son funeral home ? Ed has the info on who's buried where if John Hillmann/Hillman is buried in any Mt.Olive cem he should be able to tell you where. > > On 20 Dec 2009 at 12:57, G Frazier wrote: > > > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/cemetery/index.html > Rick found a buried stone in Immanuel Lutheran, Mt Olive Twp > Theodore H Werner 2 July 1887 25 March 1952 Ill Pvt. 1 Development Bn WW1 > > Rick added 359 gravestone pics for Memorial Park Staunton and 367 > gravestone pics for Calvary Cemetery Mt Olive. I have them uploaded. He is > working on 1700 Benld City gravestone pics... We will not go blind...we > will not go blind....while doing what we love to do..... > Gloria, did I forget to mention I have @ 1000 pics for Mt.Olive City cem to work on too ??? we might not go blind but I am having trouble seeing the keys ;-)

Has any ever tried to photograph the tombstones at Etter Cemetery S. Palmyra Twp or the Hodges Cemetery in So . Palmyra?

http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/cemetery/index.html Rick found a buried stone in Immanuel Lutheran, Mt Olive Twp Theodore H Werner 2 July 1887 25 March 1952 Ill Pvt. 1 Development Bn WW1 Rick added 359 gravestone pics for Memorial Park Staunton and 367 gravestone pics for Calvary Cemetery Mt Olive. I have them uploaded. He is working on 1700 Benld City gravestone pics... We will not go blind...we will not go blind....while doing what we love to do..... Additions of gravestone pics from Betty Moake: Pleasant Hill Gilead Baptist Panther Creek Virden Diane Loy sent gravestone pics for 10 cems. I have finished uploading 298 Summerville Cem gravestone pics, Chesterfield Twp. Working on the other nine cems. ============================== WPA Cemetery transcriptions for Stewart Cemetery Union Chapel ====================== 4 cem pics from Jean Jung for Calvary at Mt Olive ==================== Added to marriages from Dan Bryant MATLOCK, Jesse B. and Miss Mary S. ABBOTT both of Macoupin Co IL, 22 Nov 1856, married at Alton Madison Co IL, Joseph EARP, Pastor of M.E.C. added to the marriages ---------------------------------------- New query/surnames: http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/queries/qryindex.html My name is Heather Cason, my email: <mailto:rozey98@yahoo.com>rozey98@yahoo.com I am researching the following families: Percy, Charles Lee born in 1914 in Carlinville married Hutton, Pearl Louise born in 1916 in Honey Point Percy, Robert James born in 1890 in Carlinville married Hinthorn, Ethel born in 1894 in Carlinville Percy, William P. married Seaman, Mary E.. born in 1867 -------------------------------- Hello! While browsing in an antique store recently, I saw a lovely framed Marriage Certificate for Charles Marth and Louise Schaum, both of Bunker Hill, Illinois. They were married Oct. 23, 1895. Much of the certificate is in German. The store was Early Tymes Antiques in Moscow Mills, MO. Phone number there is 636-356-4322. Email address there is: ekautz@centurytel.net Hope this item makes it way back to a family descendant. Sincerely, Lois Hunziker (Note: if anyone gets this marriage cert, please notify the county coordinator so this note can be removed from the marriage site leaving the data. Thanks.) ------------------------------------------ Gloria

Hi Gloria, I have been meaning to write you about my Gr.Grandmother's listing not shown in the Immanuel Lutheran Cemetery, Mt Olive, Macoupin, IL. The information was included in the Cemetery Book [I believe I submitted it] but it is not included in the on-line Cemetery listing. I had submitted the info for the book as there are no stones on the plot, and I have a photo copy of the Immanuel Lutheran Church burial page, showing the three people who are buried on that plot. The first burial was within days of them arriving in Mt Olive [the ship docked in Baltimore July 21, 1892 and on August 2, 1892, they buried their young son, Friedrich Wilhelm Bernard Schultze, age 5 months, 22 days of age in Immanuel Lutheran Church cemetery (First Division, Block Two, Lot Two), Mt. Olive, IL. Not quite a year later, on July 25, 1893, Gr Grandfather, Henry Schultz [Wilhelm Heinrich Schultze], b. abt 13 July 1859 Germany, d. 2 July 1893 in a tragic mine accident: MASHED TO A PULP HENRY SCHULTZE , A LOADER AT NO. 8 SHAFT, KILLED TUESDAY AFTERNOON BY FALLING ROCK. The full text of the front page newspaper article I submitted and is up on the Macoupin County GenWeb pages. I am not sure is Wayne wants this info for his pages on miners that lost their lives in the mines or not ?? He is welcome to include it. The third burial on the plot is that of my Gr Grandmother, Juliana Augusta [Barkowsky] Schultze, Hillmann. Augusta Hillmann, as she was known by, was b. 14 Dec 1868 Germany and d. 6 August 1911 Litchfield, Montgomery, IL [in the hospital, there]. She was buried next to her first husband and her young son on the 8 August 1911. I am not sure where her 2nd husband, John Hillmann / Hillman is buried, and I would NOT list him on the cemetery listing. I need to see if I can find a record of his burial [he d. 17 Mar 1917 at the state hospital in Jackson], and his obit does not give a clue to where he was buried. He is not listed on this plot in the Church Burial Book. I suspect that he is buried there or at a cemetery in Montgomery County were his parents lived, but he is not shown with them, either [Asbury Cemetery]. I hope to someday put up a marker on the plot for my GrGrandparents, and I sure would be open for any ideas of what type to put up. Thanks, Gloria for all your hard work, Sharon Buethner On 20 Dec 2009 at 12:57, G Frazier wrote: http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/cemetery/index.html Rick found a buried stone in Immanuel Lutheran, Mt Olive Twp Theodore H Werner 2 July 1887 25 March 1952 Ill Pvt. 1 Development Bn WW1 Rick added 359 gravestone pics for Memorial Park Staunton and 367 gravestone pics for Calvary Cemetery Mt Olive. I have them uploaded. He is working on 1700 Benld City gravestone pics... We will not go blind...we will not go blind....while doing what we love to do..... Additions of gravestone pics from Betty Moake: Pleasant Hill Gilead Baptist Panther Creek Virden Diane Loy sent gravestone pics for 10 cems. I have finished uploading 298 Summerville Cem gravestone pics, Chesterfield Twp. Working on the other nine cems. ============================== WPA Cemetery transcriptions for Stewart Cemetery Union Chapel ====================== 4 cem pics from Jean Jung for Calvary at Mt Olive ==================== Added to marriages from Dan Bryant MATLOCK, Jesse B. and Miss Mary S. ABBOTT both of Macoupin Co IL, 22 Nov 1856, married at Alton Madison Co IL, Joseph EARP, Pastor of M.E.C. added to the marriages ---------------------------------------- New query/surnames: http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/queries/qryindex.html My name is Heather Cason, my email: <mailto:rozey98@yahoo.com>rozey98@yahoo.com I am researching the following families: Percy, Charles Lee born in 1914 in Carlinville married Hutton, Pearl Louise born in 1916 in Honey Point Percy, Robert James born in 1890 in Carlinville married Hinthorn, Ethel born in 1894 in Carlinville Percy, William P. married Seaman, Mary E.. born in 1867 -------------------------------- Hello! While browsing in an antique store recently, I saw a lovely framed Marriage Certificate for Charles Marth and Louise Schaum, both of Bunker Hill, Illinois. They were married Oct. 23, 1895. Much of the certificate is in German. The store was Early Tymes Antiques in Moscow Mills, MO. Phone number there is 636-356-4322. Email address there is: ekautz@centurytel.net Hope this item makes it way back to a family descendant. Sincerely, Lois Hunziker (Note: if anyone gets this marriage cert, please notify the county coordinator so this note can be removed from the marriage site leaving the data. Thanks.) ------------------------------------------ Gloria Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you so very much! My grandfather and his siblings grew up in the Palmyra area but I grew up 1500 miles away from my parents families. I have names and dates but I was wanting to see where everything too place. I just wish I had a few stories telling me who they all were as individuals. Thanks again for all who responded. Regina LeMarr Mooney In a message dated 12/18/2009 1:29:40 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, macoupincounty@earthlink.net writes: Goshen School 1932 geological survey map shows in sec 12 of Barr twp. http://macoupinctygenealogy.org/images/mpbarr.jpg These specific geological survey maps were mainly for schools altho they do show some churches. Goshen Church may be there......don't know. It does sound like in the obit that the schoolhouse did serve as the church. Just my guessing. Gloria At 01:39 PM 12/18/2009, you wrote: >I submitted that obituary as Isaac Newton Lemarr was my Great-great >Grandfather. I was just wondering where they both were located. > >Thanks, >Regina > > >In a message dated 12/18/2009 11:29:43 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, >wmhntn@frontiernet.net writes: > >Take a look at this page of Obits and look und LEMARR >http://macoupinctygenealogy.org/obits/o_l001.html > >It mentions both school & church. > >Wayne >http://gillespieil.com/gillespie/ > > > > > Can anyone tell me where the Goshen church and school were? (around >1870) > > I thought that they were in Macoupin County and just realized that maybe > > they were in either Madison or Stark County. > > > > Thanks, > > Regina > > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and >the body of the message > > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To my knownledge there was NEVER a Goshen Church at the north east corner of Goshen Road and Boy Sout Road in Sction !2 of Macoupin county. Footnote: Lamarr-James Cemetery: Section 12, Barr township, Macoupin county, Illinois, United States Short Footnote: Lamarr-James Cemetery: Section 12, Barr township, Macoupin county, Illinois, United States Bibliography: Lamarr-James Cemetery: Section 12, Barr township, Macoupin county, Illinois, United States. Source text: Lamarr-James Cemetery was located east of where Blackberry Road meets with Boy Scout Road and across in farm field which is about 50 yards north of Goshen Road on the former " Isaac Newton Lamarr Sr " farm. {Approximate "Goble Postioning System" coordinates are; N 39° 35' 20"; W 90° 02' 15"}: Source comments: The Lamarr-James Cemetery was on the north fence line of the school grounds before being convered into farm field in mid-1920's, which was at the junction of Goshen and Boy Scout Roads, in the norteast corner, (This one room country school went by the name of "Goshen School" which was torn down in the mid 1950's )     /s/ Jim -- theOldMan -- James W. DUGGER ---Sometimes the -- DELETED key -- is the Best KEY to be USE --- --- On Fri, 12/18/09, G Frazier <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> wrote: From: G Frazier <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Goshen church and school To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 1:18 PM Goshen School 1932 geological survey map shows in sec 12 of Barr twp. http://macoupinctygenealogy.org/images/mpbarr.jpg These specific geological survey maps were mainly for schools altho they do show some churches. Goshen Church may be there......don't know. It does sound like in the obit that the schoolhouse did serve as the church. Just my guessing. Gloria At 01:39 PM 12/18/2009, you wrote: >I submitted that obituary as Isaac Newton Lemarr was my  Great-great >Grandfather. I was just wondering where they both were  located. > >Thanks, >Regina > > >In a message dated 12/18/2009 11:29:43 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, >wmhntn@frontiernet.net writes: > >Take a  look at this page of Obits and look und  LEMARR >http://macoupinctygenealogy.org/obits/o_l001.html > >It mentions  both school &  church. > >Wayne >http://gillespieil.com/gillespie/ > > > > >  Can anyone tell me where the Goshen church and school were? (around >1870) > > I thought that they were in Macoupin County and just realized  that maybe > > they were in either Madison or Stark  County. > > > > Thanks, > > Regina > > >Check out Macoupin  County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please  send an email to >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe'  without the >quotes in the subject and >the body of the  message > > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At the request of a researcher, We went out to Wheeler Cemetery last summer. I did get a couple of photos before this dog that appeared to resemble a pit bull showed up. Yes, they scare me. I had my 3 month old terrier pup with me, on a leash, and I sure wasn't going to stay. I did put what I had on-line at : http://gillespieil.com/gillespie/wheeler/cemetery.html If anyone would care to furnish any additional information or photos, it would be much appreciated. Wayne http://gillespieil.com/gillespie/

Jim, Elder Pleasant Lemay and his wife were charter members of Hopewell church in 1831, and I think he served as pastor until his death. We do have the records, complete, for the old Hopewell church. If not mistaken, I think I've also seen his name in minutes in Ohio and/or Indiana. Although I know nothing about the Union church which you said was near his home in Hilyard township, I do not think Elder Lemay would have attended that Union church, nor would he have joined there, if it was a missionary Baptist church. The records of HOpewell church would show that he attended there, whether or not it was not near his home. I certainly do appreciate the information, and help, in regard to trying to find a deed, and the exact location, of the Hopewell church. I appreciate your mention of abstracts, as that is something I had not thought about in my deed searches. In some rare cases, at least, that might be an option if it was really important, and the deed records did not give the answer. Robert ____________________________________________________________ Weight Loss Program Best Weight Loss Program - Click Here! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=_rhkuaiuLyyWkJXDUWE_-wAAJ1AuWzakqguwvBp5LqhiFNkdAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEUgAAAAA=

To my knowledge the Huddleston-Wheeler Cemetery is in the NW1/4 of SW1/4 , Section 3, Gillespie Township. Cemetery is off north side of Quarry Road. In the booklet of Small Southern Macoupin County, Illinois Cemeteries, Vol. II. published by the Macoupin County Genealogical Society is an edited letter written by Edith Pearson Loakyer in 1967 to Ora Hoehn Lewis that states: "I do not know how long ago Mt. Pleasant church was built. The old Hopewell Hard-shell Baptist was built first." Turn back two pages and the written description of Huddleston-Wheeler Cemetery states that the original Wheeler cemetery was on the original Wheeler land. The original James Wheeler land patented from the government in 1835 is listed as 44.86 acres - SENW section 3 -08-07 (Gillespie township) and 44.90 acres, SWNE, section 3-08-07, (Gillespie township). It states that an earlier owner had let his hogs run in the area and they had rooted all the tombstones down. The present land owner , Mr. Spencer, took what stones he could find and stacked them along a fence. Then in 1970 the township cleared the fence line and bulldozed all but three of the stones which were stacked in the way. Mr. Spencer gave the stones to a Mr. Wheeler from Gillespie who was to reset the stones in the Huddleston-Wheeler Cemetery. The last paragraph tells that one lonely headstone base can be seen in the pasture where the original cemetery was. The base is to the south of the metal bridge on the road leading to the Huddleston-Wheeler Cemetery. If the deed you are seeking for the old Hopewell Church, if there was ever a deed, it should be mentioned on the abstract of the Ralph Spenser farm or else on the abstract of the Robert and Margaret Lytle etal. farm. Perhaps some one with a better knowledge of that area in Gillespie township could take part in answering where the location of the Hopewell church was. To others reading this e-mail: Pleasant Lemay was mentioned as a member of the Hopewell Church. Yet where he lived in Hilyard township, the Union Baptist church was close by somewhere quite near by his homestead. I would suppose that he and his family would attend church at that Church since the Hopewell church was several miles away by muddy roads and impassible hills between the two neighborhoods. Pleasant Lemay as well as his son, Pleasant and their families are buried in the Morrison cemetery very near to where the Pleasant Lemay homestead and the Union Baptist church was. I have another question: Does anybody reading this know how the Hopewell school located across the line with Polk township in section 5, Hilyard township was given this name. I went to this school all eight years of grade school and nobody around here knows how it ever got its name. The Harmony Baptist Church was first organized at a meeting at this school house and met there for services until a church was built in section 6 of Hilyard and later moved to where the Harmony Baptist church is now on the Shipman-Chesterfield road. Jim Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert L. Webb" <bwebb9@juno.com> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Early Residents > Jim, > > I haven't yet been able to find a copy of the deed for Hopewell church, > but I have it on a list to work on, in a file, along with about 200 or so > other churches in Illinois. The post which I noticed says it was in Sec 5, > so perhaps the church in that section on the map which was just posted, > could be it. I am not really sure whether it was at the site of the > Wheeler cemetery. When I asked IRAD they couldn't find it, but without a > book and page in a deed book, they often cannot. > > I don't know how many church deeds I've found, but they fill three large > three-ring notebooks. This summer I did work for several days organizing > all our church records, in our library, putting them in alphabetical > order, and making a finding list so that I could find them easily when > needed. I've also been digitizing some of them, and still searching and > copying more records from all over the state. It could be a full time > job, and I'm still working to make a living. Yesterday I helped with a > burial at the cemetery I've restored here in Hancock county, where there > had not been a burial since 1938. > > Robert > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Water Heater > Some like it hot. Click now for a reliable new water heater! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=C6XzOHh5pUiO1xLHgBv3gAAAJ1AuWzakqguwvBp5LqhiFNkdAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGIAAAAAA= > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jim, I haven't yet been able to find a copy of the deed for Hopewell church, but I have it on a list to work on, in a file, along with about 200 or so other churches in Illinois. The post which I noticed says it was in Sec 5, so perhaps the church in that section on the map which was just posted, could be it. I am not really sure whether it was at the site of the Wheeler cemetery. When I asked IRAD they couldn't find it, but without a book and page in a deed book, they often cannot. I don't know how many church deeds I've found, but they fill three large three-ring notebooks. This summer I did work for several days organizing all our church records, in our library, putting them in alphabetical order, and making a finding list so that I could find them easily when needed. I've also been digitizing some of them, and still searching and copying more records from all over the state. It could be a full time job, and I'm still working to make a living. Yesterday I helped with a burial at the cemetery I've restored here in Hancock county, where there had not been a burial since 1938. Robert ____________________________________________________________ Water Heater Some like it hot. Click now for a reliable new water heater! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=C6XzOHh5pUiO1xLHgBv3gAAAJ1AuWzakqguwvBp5LqhiFNkdAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGIAAAAAA=

I don't think this list will accept attachments, so I added Section 12 of Barr Township to this page which shows a seperate church and school. On another palce it only shows the school named School No. 1. on the I. N. Lamar property. http://gillespieil.com/gillespie/1875twpmap.html Wayne http://gillespieil.com/gillespie/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "G Frazier" <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Goshen church and school > > Goshen School 1932 geological survey map shows in sec 12 of Barr twp. > http://macoupinctygenealogy.org/images/mpbarr.jpg > > These specific geological survey maps were mainly for schools altho they > do > show some churches. Goshen Church may be there......don't know. > > It does sound like in the obit that the schoolhouse did serve as the > church. Just my guessing. > > Gloria > > At 01:39 PM 12/18/2009, you wrote: >>I submitted that obituary as Isaac Newton Lemarr was my Great-great >>Grandfather. I was just wondering where they both were located.