Not sure you have time to get it for Christmas, but the Macoupin County Gen Soc has a new cem book out. I ordered it and sent a few extra donation dollars to the society. The county cemeteries should be getting close to all being transcribed. Gillespie City Cemetery is close to being done according to Mary McKenzie. Not sure what other cemeteries are left. Gloria -------------- >From Mary McKenzie: New: Small Southern Macoupin Co. (IL) Cemeteries Vol. II Includes the following cemeteries: Funderburk Cemetery - Dorchester Twp. Luken Cemetery - Dorchester Twp. Mize - Hand Cemetery - Dorchester Twp. St. Mary's Catholic Cemetery Dorchester Twp. Tine-Sawyer Cemetery - Dorchester Twp. Wayne Cemetery - Dorchester Twp. Clark Family Cemetery - Gillespie Twp. Harlan Cemetery - Gillespie Twp. Wheeler - Huddleston Cemetery - Gillespie Twp. Bethlehem Baptist Church Cemetery (aka Centerville Cem.) - Hillyard Twp. Fleming Cemetery - Hillyard Twp. Hilyard Cemetery - Hillyard Twp. Carrico Cemetery - Honey Point Twp. Corr Cemetery - Honey Point Twp. Dees Cemetery - Mt. Olive Twp. Franzmayer Cem. - Mt. Olive Twp. Sparks Cemetery - Staunton Twp. This is our second publication of Small Southern Macoupin County Cemeteries. The larger cemeteries in these townships have been or will be published in other publications. Several pages of aditional burial listings were extracted from old newspaper obituaries or other cemetery listings . In most cases these are persons for whom no grave marker was found. Some pictures of the old cemeteries are included as are some histories of the cemeteries or the families for whom the cemetery was named. Price is $12.00 plus $2.00 p/h. Order from Macoupin Co. Genealogical Society, P. O. Box 95, Staunton, IL 62088.

Bob, Here is the site for the "birthday calculator": http://enws347.eas.asu.edu:8000/~buckner/bdform.html> Some of the obits that were printed in the Staunton Star-Times are also from the areas of Sawyerville, Livingston, & New Douglas. Several of the places of death of the persons in these obits were in other cities in IL & St Louis. >... do you know of anyone else that has posted Macoupin Co. obits > from other sections such as Girard and Palmyra? No, not from Girard or Palymra. There is a site that has some obits from the Livingston newspaper... someone sent it to me last week..I'll have to find the URL for it.. Will look it up & post it to the Macoupin Co mail list this evening. Joan

In a message dated 98-12-08 20:31:41 EST, you write: << Subj: [Fwd: [ILMACOUP-L] Re: Birthday Calculator] Date: 98-12-08 20:31:41 EST From: moore@misslink.net (Bill and Nancy Moore) To: ILMACOUP-L@rootsweb.com >> There is a site on the net that calculates it for you: http://enws347.eas.asu.edu:8000/~buckner/bdform.html

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3EA5264C543AD68AFD043650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1870 Formula 1. Enter the Death date as Year/Month/day: i.e. 1889.05.06 (1889.May.06) 2. Then subtract Age of Person i.e. 71.07.09 (71ys 7ms 9ds) 3. Result 1817.97.97 4. Subtract 8870 to correct months and days 88.70 5. You will have a very close birth date 1817.09.27 (1817 Sep 27) This was printed in the July 98 issue of Star Geneal Journal, Jacksonville, Il by permission from "How to Compute a Birthdate of Your Ancestor From a Death Date By Formula 8879" Nancy Moore --------------3EA5264C543AD68AFD043650 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <366D81B0.DCE80AFD@misslink.net> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 13:44:49 -0600 From: Bill and Nancy Moore <moore@misslink.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sjmiley@ckt.net Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP-L] Re: Birthday Calculator References: <3.0.5.16.19981207070045.3e6f630c@mail.tigernet.gen.mo.us> <366DA1F1.799D@ckt.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1870 Formula 1. Enter the Death date as Year/Month/day: i.e. 1889.05.06 (1889.May.06) 2. Then subtract Age of Person i.e. 71.07.09 (71ys 7ms 9ds) 3. Result 1817.97.97 4. Subtract 8870 to correct months and days 88.70 5. You will have a very close birth date 1817.09.27 (1817 Sep 27) This was printed in the July 98 issue of Star Geneal Journal, Jacksonville, Il by permission from "How to Compute a Birthdate of Your Ancestor From a Death Date By Formula 8879" Nancy Moore S Joan Miley wrote: > Bob, > > Here is the site for the "birthday calculator": > > http://enws347.eas.asu.edu:8000/~buckner/bdform.html> > > Some of the obits that were printed in the Staunton Star-Times are also > from the areas of Sawyerville, Livingston, & New Douglas. Several of the > places of death of the persons in these obits were in other cities in IL > & St Louis. > > >... do you know of anyone else that has posted Macoupin Co. obits > > from other sections such as Girard and Palmyra? > > No, not from Girard or Palymra. There is a site that has some obits from > the Livingston newspaper... someone sent it to me last week..I'll have > to find the URL for it.. > > Will look it up & post it to the Macoupin Co mail list this evening. > > Joan > > ==== ILMACOUP Mailing List ==== > If you need a Macoupin County Professional Researcher please check out: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/m_pros.htm --------------3EA5264C543AD68AFD043650--

Hello, This is a general query to anyone who may have information about Blacktown. This was a temporary group of buildings and tents constructed under the trestle north of Staunton during its building in the summer of 1913. I would be interested in anything, either text or photos available on the building of the trestle. I have some letters to my grandmother, called the Blacktown News, written by Nettie Fleming. Some of the Surnames listed in these letters are as follows, SCHMUTZLER, DINGERSON, RAMSEIER, ROZIER, GINDELL, STIEGEMEIER, STIFF, SMITH, RUTHER, HERMANNS, BEYREUTHER, FISCHER, MCCULLEN, STILLIE, STRUCK, BUB, BAKER, KAESAMAN, MILLER, SCHUESTER, WEISENBORN, and FLEMMING. I believe this is all of them, doing a quick look through. I am certainly willing to share info, but would like to hear from anyone having info on the building of the trestle or of Blacktown. Thanks, Glenn Sheets

PARISHER, Mrs Adeline Abt 1837-16 Feb 1922 PETROVSKI, Frank Abt 1875-19 May 1922 PRANGE, Charles H 7 May 1866-29 Apr 1922 ROCHESTER, Wm N/G-13 Jul 1922 ROHLEDER*, Elizabeth 24 Nov 1859-1 Sep 1922 ROSETHAL, August 5 Oct 1873-23 Mar 1922 ROUNDS, Lucy V 19 Aug 1846-25 Mar 1922 RUTHER, Christopher H 27 Jun 1839-14 Feb 1922 SANDBACH, Emma N/G-21 Sep 1922 SAVILL, Harold Robert 30 Jul 1922-20 Aug 1922 (infant) SCHAEDLICH*, Ernestine 4 Sep 1851-14 Apr 1922 SCHERFF, Fred Sr Abt 1857-19 Oct 1922 SCHMIDT, John 10 Sep 1850-6 Oct 1922 SCHNEIDER, Gustav 1 Apr 1848-5 Feb 1922 SCHOENMETZLER*, Louisa 11 Feb 1862-7 Jul 1922 SCHUBERT*, Ernestine 4 Sep 1851-14 Apr 1922 SCHULTZ, Elizabeth 24 Nov 1859-1 Sep 1922 SCROGGINS, Ebern 1 Jun 1850-19 Jul 1922 SCROGGINS*, Kissiah Ann 29 Nov 1833-3 Sep 1922 SCROGGINS*, Lucy V 19 Aug 1846-25 Mar 1922 SEUBERT, Geo. 3 Jun 1849-10 Jan 1922 SHERMAN*, Wilhelmina Anna 6 Sep 1869-11 Sep 1922 SMITH, Milton Alexander 20 Aug 1845-30 Nov 1922 SPAK*, Mary 3 Sep 1877-8 Aug 1922 SPANVIELLO*, Mary Ann Abt 1852-1 Sep 1922 STAHL*, Mrs. D.W. 24 Oct 1850-6 Jun 1922 STIFFELMAN*, Rosamond 21 Aug 1891-21 Nov 1922 STILLER*, Grace 20 Nov 1891-15 Oct 1922 STRAWHUN, Miss Mary Frances 6 Nov 1839-5 May 1922 STUTTLE, Joseph Jr. Age N/G -8 May 1922 SWAYZE, Sarah Margaret 8 May 1886-20 May 1922 TABOR, ? (Mrs) 24 Oct 1850-6 Jun 1922 THIEL, Wm 23 Oct 1910-19 Jun 1922 THOMURE, Bobbie 15 Apr 1921-16 Nov 1922 TOSTA, Charles 19 Sep 1904-30 May 1922 ULLMANN, Anton Frederick 18 Aug 1842-8 Sep 1922 VOLAND*, Amelia Christine 17 Feb 1839-28 Oct 1922 WEEKS, Wm. B. (H.?) Abt 1910-5 May 1922 WERLER*, Mrs. Max (nee PURDY) 6 Jun 1889-21 Nov 1922 WOLF, Frank Abt 1857-4 Oct 1922 YARECKY*, Maria 21 Aug 1855-8 Jun 1922 YEMM, Wm. Jr N/G-18 Jun 1922

HEINZ*, Pauline 5 Jan 1845-25 Apr 1922 HEMANN, Wilhelmina Anna 6 Sep 1869-11 Sep 1922 HENKE*, Mrs. Henry 28 Feb 1858-17 Apr 1922 HUNSINGER*, Anna 28 Jul 1870-4 Jun 1922 JACOBS*, Lorinda Jane 18 Apr 1850-5 Aug 1922 JUBELT, Pauline 5 Jan 1845-25 Apr 1922 KATAVA, Frank Abt 1894-6 Jun 1918 (brought home from France for burial Mar 1922) KAUP*, Frances 18 Jul 1848-20 Jul 1922 KAYSER, Alfred Abt 1854-16 Jan 1922 KELL, Howard Abt 1903-26-27 Aug 1922 KLETT, Charles 13 Jan 1860-1May 1922 KNAPP*, Helena Abt 1850-13 Aug 1922 KOHLENBERG, Wm 1883-24 Aug 1922 KOHLER, Karl 18 Jan 1890-1 Sep 1922 KUPISCH, John 22 Mar 1868-4 Dec 1922 LAMB, Chas. W 18 Aug 1869-14 Mar 1922 LAMB*, Emma N/G-21 Sep 1922 LANDAU, Rosamond 21 Aug 1891-21 Nov 1922 LAUTEN*, Marie 28 Feb 1872-14 Jan 1922 LELA, August Abt 1876-26 Dec 1921 LINDAUER, Ernestine 4 Sep 1851-14 Apr 1922 LIPPOLD, Anna 28 Jul 1870-4 Jun 1922 LITTLE, Dr. Charles W Abt 1848-31 Aug 1922 MAZE*, Mrs. Spencer F 24 Oct 1850-6 Jun 1922 McDANIELS*. Sarah Abt 1833-13 May 1922 McGAUGHEY, Pvt. Mathias Age N/G-15 Nov 1920 McMANUS, Harry R 3 Nov 1891-4 Aug 1922 MESSICK, J. F. 24 Feb 1843-17 Dec 1922 MESSICK, Thomas L 14 Feb 1859-10 May 1922 MEYER, August Abt 1847-11 Sep 1922 MILLER, Vincent Abt 1915-8 Aug 1922 MOSS, W.B. 27 May 1888-4 Jan 1922 MROCZEK, Louis 10 Jun 1908-15 Apr 1922 MULL, August W 3 Feb 1892-9 Dec 1922 NEHYBA, Anna 26 Jul 1854-28 May 1922 NILAND, John 1852-29 Jun 1922 OEHLER, Anna 12 Oct 1896-14 Jun 1922 OERTEL, Herman 25 May 1839-25 Apr 1922 OLEYAR, Andro 7 Feb 1868-1 May 1922 PAGE*, Lucy V 19 Aug 1846-25 Mar 1922 PAGITSCH*, Margaret 19 Feb 1863-31 Mar 1922

ABELING, ? (Mrs) 28 Feb 1858-17 Apr 1922 AGRESH*, Anna 26 Jul 1854-28 May 1922 AHLERS*, Johana 11 May 1867-8 Feb 1922 AHRENS, Henry Sr 24 Oct 1837-28 Jul 1922 ATWOOD, Harley Abt 1887-29 Aug 1922 BECK, Harold Abt 1913-10 Sep 1922 BECKER*, Anna 12 Oct 1896-14 Jun 1922 BECKER, Marie 28 Feb 1872-14 Jan 1922 BEINKE, Milton Abt 1899-25 Nov 1922 BERSTEIN*, Mary Abt 1865-10 Mar 1922 BETHEL, Tilmon P 14 Apr 1850-7 Jul 1922 BETTMAN*, Margaret 26 Sep 1857-24 Apr 1922 BLEY, Dr. Geo. Abt 1852-17 Jan 1922 BOND, Grace 20 Nov 1891-15 Oct 1922 BRAUER, Emil Herman Julius 2 Nov 1896-9 Dec 1922 BRUCE*, Eliza Jane 28 Apr 1840-17 Dec 1922 CALDWELL*, Amelia Christine 17 Feb 1839-28 Oct 1922 CARDWELL, Lorinda Jane 18 Apr 1850-5 Aug 1922 CARTER, Delores Eielen 12 Dec 1921-31 Dec 1921 CAYWOOD, Mrs. Beall Abt 1873-30 Mar 1922 CLARK, Eliza Jane 28 Apr 1840-17 Dec 1922 DAUDERMAN, Raymond D 2 Oct 1905-31 Jan 1922 DICK*, Cinderella 17 Apr 1854-14 Dec 1922 DICKHAUSEN, Robert 6 Jun 1863-8 Dec 1922 DOHNAL*, Anna 26 Jul 1854-28 May 1922 DVORSKY, Mary 3 Sep 1877-8 Aug 1922 DWORACSEK, Wenzel 1 Oct 1849-19 Oct 1922 EILERS, Fred W Abt 1879-30 Dec 1921 FAULSTICH, Johana 11 May 1867-8 Feb 1922 FLANNIGAN, Cinderella 17 Apr 1854-14 Dec 1922 FORSTER, Geo 15 Jun 1852-22 Nov 1922 GABERNETTE, Pete 29 Jun 1890-8 Dec 1922 GERLT, Chas. Sr. 21 Feb 1848-10 Jan 1922 GILLESPIE, Amelia Christine 17 Feb 1839-28 Oct 1922 GRIEM, Wm. T 1 Jul 1890-26 Sep 1922 GRUBER*, Helena Abt 1850-13 Aug 1922 GUENNEWIG, John 22 Aug 1896-13 Mar 1922 HADDAD, Ering 27 Dec 1921-1 May 1922 HAGAMAN*, Lena 5 Nov 1860-16 May 1922 HANNIG, Zereldia 31 Mar 1917-7 Mar 1922

To all on the Macoupin County list, I have been compiling obit indexes for the Staunton Star-Times, Staunton, Macoupin Co, IL for the years 1922-1923, 1932, & 1957-1958. I am going to start posting these indexes on this mailing list which will include the name of the deceased, birth & death date. I will post these in alpha order with surname first in all caps. I have more than birth & death on most of these persons so if anyone would like more they can send me an email request personally. Other info might include (if it was available in obit): Place of death & birth, Spouse, marriage date, cemetery, & funeral home or where services were held, parents, & if there were children or siblings listed in obit. Some of these obits just gave age at death (yr, mo, da) instead of date of birth so in order to have a birthdate, I used a birthdate calculator on the Internet to come up with birthdate. This 'might' cause the 'day' of birth to be off by 1 day. If the obit gave the age as # of years old only, the birthdate will be listed as: Abt (then approximate yr of birth). If you see 'N/G' in the place of the birthdate, that means the age was not given in the obit. Also, if the female was married, the index will include both her maiden & married name. The '*' after the surname denotes her married name. I will be starting with 1922 & it will be posted in 3 sections.... 39 names per posting. 1923 & the other years will come later, how much later depends on the # of inquiries I receive for 1922 ..... & other Christmas activities.... Joan Brunner Miley Girard KS

An interesting link. Eric Adcock Macoupin County ILGenWeb Coordinator >From: Sommertex2@aol.com >Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:27:14 EST >Subject: Fwd: Check out U.S. Surname Distribution >To: WARREN-L@rootsweb.com > >Got another good one from SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY@rootsweb.com >Pat > ><A HREF="http://www.hamrick.com/names/">U.S. Surname Distribution</A> > > or > http://www.hamrick.com/names > > You can type in your surname and the year 1850, 1860, 1920, 1990 to > name a few and it will show you on a map of the united states what state > your name was in. > cool!

An interesting link. Eric Adcock Macoupin County ILGenWeb Coordinator >Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 23:05:47 -0800 (PST) >From: Darilee Bednar <usgwtour@yahoo.com> >To: USGENWEB-ALL-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [USGENWEB-ALL-L] Stop #20 on the Virtual Tour > >Seasons Greetings from Arctic North Slope, Alaska, the Northernmost >USGenWeb site. You will find us just north of the Arctic Circle >at: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~akarctic/index.htm

Does anyone have a copy of the 1890 or 1900 Macoupin census handy? I'm looking for Alvin and Clara COX in the 1890, and Alvin and Clara COX with son Earl in the 1900. I intend to check later at the libray, but can't get there for a couple of weeks. Need to satisfy my curiosity. Jack Cox

In a message dated 98-12-04 00:06:49 EST, you write: << In case you are not aware of the fraudulent genealogies that are out their, you may like to go here http://www.linkline.com/personal/xymox and click on FRAUDULENT and read the text on this page. Just thought I'd pass this along after receiving this information from a cousin. >> Thanks, one of my families was on that list. Mary

I am having trouble finding a readable copy of the1870 census...does anyone have access to the book "Macoupin County, Illinois 1870 federal census/compiled by Iris Zimmer and Cynthia Leonard" ? If so, could I beg, barter or steal <grin> a few lookups? Happy Hunting, Cathy Wilson

In case you are not aware of the fraudulent genealogies that are out their, you may like to go here http://www.linkline.com/personal/xymox and click on FRAUDULENT and read the text on this page. Just thought I'd pass this along after receiving this information from a cousin.

Jersey County Historical Society has a project going on Veteran Burials and would like to have all Vets burial/cemetery records, who served from Jersey, who might be buried in Macoupin, Greene, Sangamon or Morgan Cos. or anywhere for that matter. As CC for Jersey, I feel this might also help our Web Page down the road, so am trying to help out. If anyone has any information on Vets from Jersey burials, would they please contact Marty Crull at <ronda@midwest.net>. Your help would be appreciated. Thanks. Mary Ann County Coordinator & List Manager Jersey Co. ILGenWeb <http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljersey/index.html>

In a message dated 98-12-02 14:48:07 EST, you write: Was someone one this list researching CARMACK? << Subj: KY Explorer May 1997 pg 104 1890 scrapbook Date: 98-12-02 14:48:07 EST From: MOM-GOOSE@webtv.net (Linda Giess) To: StLouis-MO-L@rootsweb.com There is a picture. If anyone is realted, I will gladly send you a photo copy....... "Shown above is LEVI CARMACK, born on the right fork of Buffalo, who died in 1933, at about 75 years old. HE was the son of JACOB and LIDDY ANN BURNS CARMACK who arrived in Owsley County in 1860. He married MARY BAKER, daughter of BOSTON BOB BAKER. LEVI made his living playing the fiddle. It is believed he is buried in the Horse Creek area of Clay County. If anyone knows where he is buried, contact TONY ROOT, 3771 Withrow Rd., Hamilton, OH 45011 -------this is on the page of the 1890 scrap book but appears to be a Today message------------------ ------------------------------------------ GILBERT--RODES WILLIAM GILBERT owned "Gilbert-town" NC, where Maj. FERGUSON camped before he fell back to King's Mountain. Gilbert was in the commission of peace, of old Tryon County, NC, then of Rutherford. He represented Rutherford in the NC House of Common, in 1780, '82, '83, and died before 1807. Was called Col. GILBERT. JAMES HOLLAND married SARAH GILBERT in June, 1780. He was sheriff of old Tryon County, NC, in 1777 and '78; was senator and representative from Rutherford County; was also congressman, etc., and moved to Tennessee in 1811, and died in 1822. He was called Maj. HOLLAND. Both GILBERT and HOLLAND are in Draper's "King's Mountain," where a foolish statement is made that "Gilbert was a lyalist," which supposition, I have since learned, rests simply on the fact that Ferguson camped at "Gilbert--town," as though an army ever quartered on its friends in an enemy's country! Gilbert was at that time in the patriot legislature. Information also on te RODES family, of Albemarle and Hanover County, VA. JOHN RODES, of Hanover County, born 1697, was the father of JOHN RODES, of Albemarle, born 1729. His son, TYREE RODES, came to Tennessee in 1807--09. Many descendants live in Kentucky and Missouri. ------------------------------------------------- remember this scrapbook is over 100 yrs old. And no other info is available.------- ------------------------------------------------- >>

Hi- Looking for PATTISON, HUNT, and HEDLEY/HEADLEY families in Macoupin Co. abt 1850-70. They were first-generation immigrants from England. Thanks, Cindy Spencer

My Macoupin County families: Edmond Sutton and wife Sarah lived in Macoupin County in the 1830's and 1840's. Their children were: John D., Jessie, James, Vinson R., Joseph P., K., Jerutha, Mary, Malinda, Polly Ann, Jane. Nathaniel French and wife Nancy Jane lived in Macoupin County in the 1830's and 1840's. Their children were: Oliver M., James P., Nancy Jane, Mary, Michael A., Rosanna, Lefford, a female. Would be happy to exchange information with anyone working on these families. Carolyn csclark@galstar.com

We are looking for HARRIS and FRYE descendants who married into the KELLAR,ROHRER and ALLYN families. Thank you Britta B. Harris