Have added the following here and there on the Macoupin page. Jack Cox's Genealogy home page - COX Genealogy Also WOOD, BROWINING, and OSBORNE http://www.kc.net/~jack_cox - ---------------------------- File names are listed - you have to add the first part of the url to each file name: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/ m_obitx.htm Obituaries - 1922-1923 Staunton Star Times (Complete index with dates) ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/il/macoupin/misc/staun-o.txt Obituaries - 1932 Staunton Star Times (Complete index with dates) ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/il/macoupin/misc/staun2-o.txt CRAWFORD, Nancy M Bridges ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/il/macoupin/misc/crawf2-o.txt DWORSACK, Victor ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/il/macoupin/misc/dwor-o.txt Updated the Cemetery Page: cem.htm ------------------------------------- family.htm ANDERSON - Descendants of William Anderson ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/il/macoupin/misc/ander.txt ----------------------- m_bksale.htm and m_pubook.htm Macoupin County Current Plat Book 1998 Macoupin County Plat Book, Macoupin County Extension Service. Price $18.00 plus postage if mailed. Contact by email for cost of postage information: Mary Lou, Macoupin County Extension Service <Macoupin_Co@mail.aces.uiuc.edu> 1996 copies are available through our office for $13 plus $2 postage. You can send a check made payable to Macoupin County Extension if you want us to mail it. If you are in Carlinville and want to stop by the Extension Office and buy one: Macoupin County Extension Service 210 N Broad Carlinville, IL 62626 -- Scroggins in Macoupin, Montgomery, & Madison Counties, Illinois, by Ellen DalPozzo, 1994. Plastic bound, 140 pp. plus exhibits and index. Price $20.00, while supply lasts. Suhre in Madison & Macoupin Co. by Ellen DalPozzo, Price $20.00, while supply lasts. Salter in Madison & Macoupin Co. by Ellen DalPozzo, Price $20.00, while supply lasts. Sawyer Update, 1650-1988, by Ellen DalPozzo, October 1989. Plastic bound, 248 pp. including index. Price $25.00 Make checks to: Cindy Leonard P.O. Box 212 Staunton, IL 62088 Be sure to indicate which book(s) you are ordering. ------------------------------- m_staunt.htm Black Town News (Letters) - contributed by Glenn E. Sheets ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/il/macoupin/misc/fleming.txt Black Town was a temporary group of buildings and tents constructed underneath the rail road trestle north of Staunton, visible from Rt. 4, during its building in the summer of 1913. It sat next to Cahokia Creek. The duration of its existance I currently do not know. Black Town News was not a newspaper. These were letters to my grandmother Edna Schmutzler, who at the time was staying in St. Louis. These were written by Nettie Fleming, Edna's sister under the psuedonymn of Jim Crow. --------------------- If you see errors, please let me know... I got some typed census sheet attachs in tonite/this morn. Will ck them tomorrow. Thanks. Goin to bed. Gloria

I have seen about 4 new Homepages go by on the list but didn't pick them up. If you have a new genealogy homepage which isn't listed on the Macoupin page, please send your name and url for the site. Also, include the Macoupin surnames which are included as the study on the homepage. I don't care how many surnames. I will list them under the page name in smaller print. Thanks. gloria

Land plats being discussed - There is some explanation at the bottom of this site for twp/sections: http://www.sos.state.il.us/depts/archives/data_lan.html And, for Macoupin, if you tie the above section splits in the specific twps at this site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/m_maptwp.htm it might help tell where your land description fits in Macoupin County. I can give you the twp name if you send me the twp and range numbers from your land searches. Those numbers need to be put on the Macoupin sketch. Thanks, Jim, for helping on the land questions. If you have some kind of paint/drawing program, Jim, you are "welcome" to download the sketch at m_maptwp.htm and work it over to show the twp/range numbers. Need to work on as a tif or bmp then save to jpg. Jpeg format is too messy to work with altho it has to be saved as and uploaded as a jpg or gif. Just an idea I have had for quite some time but time..... Gloria ------------------ Gloria Frazier Macoupin County ILGenWeb County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/macoupin.htm ILGenWeb Archives - Macoupin and Washington Counties IL http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/il/ilfiles.htm GenConnect Surname Boards - NASH, ADCOCK, SHIPPEE, RICHARDS, COVERDILL, FRAZIER GenConnect County Boards - Macoupin and Jersey Counties IL http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/usaindex.html ILCALHOU and ILWASHIN maillists manager ILGenWeb Page Evaluation FRAZIER-L maillist Macoupin County ILGenWeb sponsored free by RootsWeb All donations appreciated: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html Proud to be a RootsWeb Donor http://www.rootsweb.com/~donors/ DE>IL-Coverdill IN>IL-Hays KY>IL-Nash/Oller/Shipp KY>MO-Frazier/Morrison/Ragland/Upton/Hamilton KY>Hord TN>IL-Adcock/Carter/Sutton/Richards/Warren/Wingo TN-Baseye

Could someone tell me who would have voters reg. records, IRAD or County Clerk? Thanks, Gwen

Hi, It will take me a couple of days or mooorrre..... to get into the swing as the 1860 just started but Larry Clark is handing out the pages, which is most of the load right now. I am also (slowly) working on an alpha CW list of Macoupin men only. We still desperately need typists for the 1860. In 3 weeks, Larry will not be available for page requests so if you can help, please ask him for page copies in the next 3 weeks. Larry Clark <leclark@digizen.net> If you have items which need to be added to the Macoupin County ILGenWeb page, please send them on. Any questions, holler. My observation, and I won't speak for Eric, is that there were political differences at the USGenWeb level. And, we all know the problems in politics. I hope and don't think that his love for genealogy was dampened by politics. Will get back to you soon. Gloria Frazier

Could someone tell me where I could get property and/or land sales circa 1901 and again about 1920. I think my great-grandfather, Edward SCANLON sold property on Bissell Street, Virden to H.& L. Association ca. 1901. Circa 1920's, after the death of Edward SCANLON family moved to Springfield, Illinois. They must have sold property in Virden but I don't know the address. Thanks,. Gwen

Everyone, Macoupin County Page is not being turned off. Gloria Frazier had laid a strong foundation and built a beautiful and helpful page. Eric has made many nice improvements. Maybe we will get Eric back. In the meantime forward all questions and problems to me. Kathleen Mirabella Macoupin County, IL Mail List Manager ****************************************************************** In a message dated 1/25/99 8:44:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, eadcock@dave- world.net writes: > Subj: [ILMACOUP-L] resignation > Date: 1/25/99 8:44:26 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: eadcock@dave-world.net (Eric Adcock) > To: ILMACOUP-L@rootsweb.com > > > I regret to inform you all that I am resigning as Macoupin County ILGenWeb > Coordinator, effective immediately. > > I would prefer to say only that I have had profound disagreements with other > > USGenWeb volunteers regarding internal USGenWeb matters, and rather than > risk turning old friends into enemies, I am removing myself from the > situation. > > I am unsubscribing from all mailing lists and turning this $#!& computer off > > for awhile, so I will not be responding to private e-mail for some time. > > Thanks for your patience and support over the past few months, and good luck > > with your family histories. > > Eric Adcock > > >

I regret to inform you all that I am resigning as Macoupin County ILGenWeb Coordinator, effective immediately. I would prefer to say only that I have had profound disagreements with other USGenWeb volunteers regarding internal USGenWeb matters, and rather than risk turning old friends into enemies, I am removing myself from the situation. I am unsubscribing from all mailing lists and turning this $#!& computer off for awhile, so I will not be responding to private e-mail for some time. Thanks for your patience and support over the past few months, and good luck with your family histories. Eric Adcock

Received from another list. ENGLISH NAME PATTERNS 1700-1875 1st son-----father's father 2nd son--------mother's father 3rd son--------father 4th son--------father's eldest brother 1st dau--------mother's mother 2nd dau-------father's mother 3rd dau-------mother 4th dau-------mother's eldest sister >From "In Search of Scottish Ancestry by Gerald Hamilton-Edwards The eldest son after the paternal grandfather The second son after the maternal grandfather The third son after the father The eldest daughter after the maternal grandmother The second daughter after the mother Younger children would be named after earlier forbears, but the patterns in their case was less settled. One variation from the above was for the eldest son to be named after the mother's father and the eldest daughter after the father's mother. In this case the second son would be named after the father's father and the second daughter after the mothers' mother. Occasionally the second son and daughter would be named after the father and mother instead of the third son and daughter. Another variation was to call the third daughter after one of the great-grandmothers instead of after the mother. In such a case the fourth daughter would usually be called after the mother As with most "rules" in genealogy these are made to be broken. While 17th century parents did indeed use family names, often in the order suggested, my own experience tells me that the rules are not so iron-clad and one should not assume that parents necessarily named their child in that fashion. If, for example, a grandparent or a beloved brother or sister had just died (esp. as a result of some tragedy) the naming pattern might be broken. My suggestion would be to look for *patterns* of names to help identify links from one generation to another. If you see lots of names repeated over & over in your line and the collateral lines, you have a clue. If you see patterns in your line & collateral lines, but with other names that do not fit, then you have clues to the in-laws. _________________ Also it says, There are two good recent examples of the genealogical use of first names and naming patterns to suggest the parents of a person. One is an article on the parents of Abigail Snow in the Jan 1996 issue of The American Genealogist (TAG). The other is on the ancestry of the wife of Jonathan Bliss which appeared in the Jan 1997 issue of the NEHGS register. The Bliss piece is a wonderful example of source use (and demonstration of source misuse). Even if you do not have these names in your lines, it is worth a look to see how genealogists use the naming patterns to construct some hypotheses about the parents of both of these women. P.S. I do NOT know how to get these two issues. or have them. Hope this helps.

If you are new to genealogy and want to see what a plat book looks like, you can view the Doniphan Co. Kansas plat book, published 1882, which is on line. This will give you an idea of how plat books look and what they do. Be sure to look at the PLAT MAPS. http://winston.bartol.udel.edu/Plat1882/DPC_Plat_Text_TOC.html Jim Windsor

Hello Gloria; I hope you can answer a question. Or atleast point me in the right direction. I've only been researching for a year now. I gather the name of the map I'am in question about is a Platt map. I take a Platt map shows the sections of a given area. Where and how do I attain these for Macoupin Countys? Thank You Paul > Subject: [ILMACOUP-L] Wilhite > Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:15:39 EST > From: GNBLEVINS@aol.com > To: ILMACOUP-L@rootsweb.com > > Earlier in the week someone was inquiring about WILHITES -- NoticeD when > looking at my copy of the 1875 platt map of Cahokia that T. W. WILHITE owned > 80 acres in the se 1/4 of section 3 (range 6) and an additional 55 acres > caddy-corner to it on the nw 1/4 of section 11. These are just se of Clyde, > both have dwellings, and the section 11 property includes a cemetery alongside > the stream. The section 11 property is adjacent to the Peter KARNES property > but I assume that the cemetery is the KINDER cemetery where there are WILHITEs > buried. > -- ~~ <*)))>< ~~ <*)))>< <*)))>< ~~~~ <*)))>< ~~~~ ~~~~ <*)))>< ~~~~GOOD LUCK !!! ~~~~ ~~~~ SURNAMES * BURGE/TATMAN/SKOSEY/PIANETTI/TRIBOUT STONE/SANDERGARD/ATTEBERRY/GROVE/HILL>IL WHITE/BUTLER/BOWMAN>MI,CAN LISTOWNER > BURGE-L@ROOTWEB.COM <WEB PAGE> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Village/7278

Hello Gloria; I hope you can answer a question. Or atleast point me in the right direction. I've only been researching for a year now. I gather the name of the map I'am in question about is a Platt map. I take a Platt map shows the sections of a given area. Where and how do I attain these for Macoupin Countys? Thank You Paul > Subject: [ILMACOUP-L] Wilhite > Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:15:39 EST > From: GNBLEVINS@aol.com > To: ILMACOUP-L@rootsweb.com > > Earlier in the week someone was inquiring about WILHITES -- NoticeD when > looking at my copy of the 1875 platt map of Cahokia that T. W. WILHITE owned > 80 acres in the se 1/4 of section 3 (range 6) and an additional 55 acres > caddy-corner to it on the nw 1/4 of section 11. These are just se of Clyde, > both have dwellings, and the section 11 property includes a cemetery alongside > the stream. The section 11 property is adjacent to the Peter KARNES property > but I assume that the cemetery is the KINDER cemetery where there are WILHITEs > buried. > > ______________________________ > > ~~ <*)))>< ~~ <*)))>< <*)))>< ~~~~ <*)))>< ~~~~ ~~~~ <*)))>< ~~~~GOOD LUCK !!! ~~~~ ~~~~ SURNAMES * BURGE/TATMAN/SKOSEY/PIANETTI/TRIBOUT STONE/SANDERGARD/ATTEBERRY/GROVE/HILL>IL WHITE/BUTLER/BOWMAN>MI,CAN LISTOWNER > BURGE-L@ROOTWEB.COM <WEB PAGE> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Village/7278

I believe it was the Macoupin County Historical Society who reprinted the 1875 Atlas AND the 1893-4 Plat Book of Macoupin County, IL. I do not know if any are still available to purchase or not (believe they are about $25.00). Check out the Macoupin County GenWeb site, I am sure I saw something about them there at one time. Sharon Buethner > Hello Gloria; > I hope you can answer a question. Or atleast point me in the right > direction. I've only been researching for a year now. I gather the name of > the map I'am in question about is a Platt map. I take a Platt map shows > the sections of a given area. Where and how do I attain these for Macoupin > Countys? > > Thank You > Paul > > > > Subject: [ILMACOUP-L] Wilhite > > Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:15:39 EST > > From: GNBLEVINS@aol.com > > To: ILMACOUP-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Earlier in the week someone was inquiring about WILHITES -- NoticeD > when > > looking at my copy of the 1875 platt map of Cahokia that T. W. WILHITE > > owned > > 80 acres in the se 1/4 of section 3 (range 6) and an additional 55 > acres > > caddy-corner to it on the nw 1/4 of section 11. These are just se of > Clyde, > > both have dwellings, and the section 11 property includes a cemetery > alongside > > the stream. The section 11 property is adjacent to the Peter KARNES > property > > but I assume that the cemetery is the KINDER cemetery where there are > WILHITEs > > buried. > > > > -- > ~~ <*)))>< ~~ <*)))>< > <*)))>< ~~~~ <*)))>< ~~~~ > ~~~~ <*)))>< ~~~~GOOD LUCK !!! > ~~~~ ~~~~ > SURNAMES * BURGE/TATMAN/SKOSEY/PIANETTI/TRIBOUT > STONE/SANDERGARD/ATTEBERRY/GROVE/HILL>IL > WHITE/BUTLER/BOWMAN>MI,CAN > LISTOWNER > BURGE-L@ROOTWEB.COM > <WEB PAGE> > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Village/7278 > > > > ==== ILMACOUP Mailing List ==== > Submit your Macoupin County family births, marriages, deaths, Bible > records, articles, and cemetery information from your own research > to be included at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/il/macoupin/macoupin.htm >

Paul, The proper word is plat. It refers to those maps that identify the location and owner of property in a certain area. Most plats would be available from the county recorder of deeds. I don't know what they cost in Macoupin County, but to get a plat of a certain area, you need to know pretty precisely where it is. They like to see Section, Township and Range. If you are only interested in the location of a particular section of land, not the owner, you can get maps from the U.S. Interior Department (they're called 7.5 minute Quadrangle Topographic maps. These maps cost $4.50 each, plus $3.00 shipping for each order (not each map). Go to this URL http://mapping.usgs.gov/esic/index.html and click on 7.5 minute map finder. You can locate maps by zip code, by town, etc. Hope this helps. Jack Cox Herschell Paul Burge wrote: > Hello Gloria; > I hope you can answer a question. Or atleast point me in the right direction. > I've only been researching for a year now. I gather the name of the map I'am in > question about is a Platt map. I take a Platt map shows the sections of a given > area. Where and how do I attain these for Macoupin Countys? > > Thank You > Paul > > > Subject: [ILMACOUP-L] Wilhite > > Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:15:39 EST > > From: GNBLEVINS@aol.com > > To: ILMACOUP-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Earlier in the week someone was inquiring about WILHITES -- NoticeD when > > looking at my copy of the 1875 platt map of Cahokia that T. W. WILHITE owned > > 80 acres in the se 1/4 of section 3 (range 6) and an additional 55 acres > > caddy-corner to it on the nw 1/4 of section 11. These are just se of Clyde, > > both have dwellings, and the section 11 property includes a cemetery alongside > > the stream. The section 11 property is adjacent to the Peter KARNES property > > but I assume that the cemetery is the KINDER cemetery where there are WILHITEs > > buried. > > > > ______________________________ > > > > > > ~~ <*)))>< ~~ <*)))>< > <*)))>< ~~~~ <*)))>< ~~~~ > ~~~~ <*)))>< ~~~~GOOD LUCK !!! > ~~~~ ~~~~ > SURNAMES * BURGE/TATMAN/SKOSEY/PIANETTI/TRIBOUT > STONE/SANDERGARD/ATTEBERRY/GROVE/HILL>IL > WHITE/BUTLER/BOWMAN>MI,CAN > LISTOWNER > BURGE-L@ROOTWEB.COM > <WEB PAGE> > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Village/7278 > > ==== ILMACOUP Mailing List ==== > To look at 1850 Macoupin County, IL census - > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/1850census/index.htm -- My family tree and home page: http://www.kc.net/~jack_cox

For those who may not know, this URL has many vital records available. They may cost more than the local county office, but for a very important one, it can be worth it. You can order over the net, I have gotten certificates in less than a week - although some can take longer. They also take fax and mail orders. http://www.vitalcheck.com -- My family tree and home page: http://www.kc.net/~jack_cox

WE NEED YOU!! We are ready to roll with handing out copies of scanned pages of the 1860 Macoupin County IL Census to volunteer typists. To begin this project, we need at least 10 typists. If you have found the earliest Macoupin birth index, 1830, 1840, 1850 censuses, Civil War Rosters, Honor Burials, or any other data on the Macoupin County ILGenWeb site beneficial then I ask that you help us get the 1860 Macoupin County Census online. Mr Littleton Bradley has graciously given snail mail written permission to use his transcription and publication of the 1860 Macoupin Census, a very dedicated accomplishment. This is a huge census and will be a great free resource for online researchers. Debi Faris has typed well over 3000 entries already. Larry Clark is scanning the rest of the pages. I am receiving, setting up, and, in the past, argued with English teachers why I don't think periods are needed for abbrev/initials.<g> Debi, Larry, and I cannot do it by ourselves unless we intend for it to be done in some lengthy period of time. We have too many other irons in the fire but are willing to do our part as volunteers. So, in order to get it done in some kind of timely fashion, we certainly could use your help. ----------- GETTING STARTED REQUESTING SCANNED COPIES: Send an email message to Larry Clark <leclark@digizen.net> requesting scanned copies. HOW TO READ SCANNED COPIES AS ATTACHMENTS: Copies will in be .jpg (jpeg) extensions/format and can be file-opened and printed from: Internet Explorer Browser Netscape Any Picture Publisher program Any Imager program WHEN YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND INSTRUCTIONS: Send a sample of your typing, and ask before you get too far with a mistake, to: Gloria Frazier <glofra@townsqr.com> -------------------------- INSTRUCTIONS FOR COMMA TYPISTS - TYPING TO BE PUT *ON* AN EMAIL MESSAGE OR SENT AS A TEXT FILE ATTACHMENT TYPING IN COMMAS: 17 columns, 16 commas Use a hard carriage return, the ENTER key, at the end of each row. COMMA TYPISTS MAY TYPE WITHOUT A SPACE AFTER EACH COMMA LIKE THIS: x,D42,299,12,8,24,ALLEN,x,10,F,W,x,x,x,IL,A061, x,B118,864,8,6,6,ALLEN,Amos,5,M,W,x,x,x,IL,A066, A58,A205,1415,12,7,25,ALLEN,Andrew,42,M,W,**2,x,45,IL,A058, x,B170,1230,8,8,21,ALLEN,Ann,16,F,W,x,x,x,IL,W192, x,D42,298,12,8,24,ALLEN,Benj.,15,M,W,x,x,x,IL,A068, A59,B271,1960,7,6,22T,ALLEN,C. P.,41,M,W,x,1200,150,OH,A059, x,A18,119,10,8,4,ALLEN,Charles,22,M,W,**8,x,x,#2,K044, x,B271,1960,7,6,22T,ALLEN,Charles,2,M,W,x,x,x,IL,A059, x,A205,1415,12,7,25,ALLEN,Cynthia A.,14,F,W,x,x,x,KY,A058, A60,B226,1627,7,8,3,ALLEN,Danl. W.,47,M,W,**2,3300,50,NJ,A060, x,A188,1305,12,7,23,ALLEN,David H.,8,M,W,x,x,x,IL,A062, x,B46,360,10,7,4,ALLEN,Delia,55,F,W,x,x,x,VA,A064, OR AS BELOW WITH A SPACE AFTER EACH COMMA (EITHER WAY) x, D42, 299, 12, 8, 24, ALLEN, x, 10, F, W, x, x, x, IL, A061, x, B118, 864, 8, 6, 6, ALLEN, Amos, 5, M, W, x, x, x, IL, A066, A58, A205, 1415, 12, 7, 25, ALLEN, Andrew, 42, M, W, **2, x, 45, IL, A058, x, B170, 1230, 8, 8, 21, ALLEN, Ann, 16, F, W, x, x, x, IL, W192, x, D42, 298, 12, 8, 24, ALLEN, Benj., 15, M, W, x, x, x, IL, A068, A59, B271, 1960, 7, 6, 22T, ALLEN, C. P., 41, M, W, x, 1200, 150, OH, A059, x, A18, 119, 10, 8, 4, ALLEN, Charles, 22, M, W, **8, x, x, #2, K044, x, B271, 1960, 7, 6, 22T, ALLEN, Charles, 2, M, W, x, x, x, IL, A059, x, A205, 1415, 12, 7, 25, ALLEN, Cynthia A., 14, F, W, x, x, x, KY, A058, A60, B226, 1627, 7, 8, 3, ALLEN, Danl. W., 47, M, W, **2, 3300, 50, NJ, A060, x, A188, 1305, 12, 7, 23, ALLEN, David H., 8, M, W, x, x, x, IL, A062, x, B46, 360, 10, 7, 4, ALLEN, Delia, 55, F, W, x, x, x, VA, A064, ------------ INSTRUCTIONS FOR SPREADSHEET TYPISTS SPREADSHEET TYPISTS - REQUEST A SAMPLE SPREADSHEET FROM: Gloria Frazier <glofra@townsqr.com> I have the sample in Excel 7.0. Let me know if you need it in another format. I left the headers on the sample spreadsheet, but I don't need the headers in your returned typing. 17 columns **DO NOT DO ANY SORTING I can convert files up to: Excel 7.0 Lotus WK4 Quattro Pro WQ1 CSV DBF4 --------------------- GENERAL INSTRUCTIONS FOR ALL TYPISTS 1.For Blank entries - enter a lower case "x" without the quotes 2. Occupation column - use the asterisk * to follow these examples: If the occupation column shows one digit, say 3, enter as **3 If the occupation column shows two digits, say 27, enter as *27 If the occupation column shows three digits, say 132, enter 132 (no change). If two occupations are listed for one person, use the asterisks accordingly, for example two occupations **3,132 another example for two occupations 132,*27 3. Birthplace column - use the number sign # to follow these examples: If the birthplace column shows one digit, say 6, enter as #6 If the birthplace column shows two digits, say 44, enter as 44 (no change). 4. Periods. DO USE periods after initials and abbreviations as used on the copies. (Math teachers arguing with English teachers about the unusefullness/disusefullness/usefullnessed/nonusefullness of periods has been a lost cause in the past.) PROOFREADING: Please proofread one time. Pages will be proofread again ONE TIME. Two proofreadings will get "really close" to exact. KEEP A COPY OF YOUR TYPING ON AN OLD DISKETTE Just in case I lose it. RETURNING TYPED FILES: Return the typed files to Gloria Frazier <glofra@townsqr.com> ALL TYPISTS, please enter the EXACT file name in the subject line of your email msg. Say, you received e023, enter e023 in the subject line. Makes it much much easier for me to spot files. COMMA TYPISTS can send ON an email or as a TEXT/.txt extension attachment. This is a huge task so thanks to anyone who can help with the typing of the 1860 Macoupin County IL Census. Gloria Frazier

Earlier in the week someone was inquiring about WILHITES -- NoticeD when looking at my copy of the 1875 platt map of Cahokia that T. W. WILHITE owned 80 acres in the se 1/4 of section 3 (range 6) and an additional 55 acres caddy-corner to it on the nw 1/4 of section 11. These are just se of Clyde, both have dwellings, and the section 11 property includes a cemetery alongside the stream. The section 11 property is adjacent to the Peter KARNES property but I assume that the cemetery is the KINDER cemetery where there are WILHITEs buried.

Marilyn, The book I have only goes up to 1977. I believe that a new book with all the listings has been published by the cemetery's association, but, I do not have any information on how to obtain it. I am posting this to the list as I am sure there are others out there researching these names. The Duncan's and Farrar's listed in the book are as follows: Duncan, Geo W 1834 - 1896 (one section of the book gives the first dates, and another section gives the later information). Duncan, Geo W. 8/28/1896 Age 62yr 6mo 5days Killed by a bull one half mile west of cemetery at his farm in section 10. Duncan, Infant 1871 - 1871 b. 6/5/1871 buried at Rosemond (G W Duncan) Duncan, Tracy E 1891-1891 Duncan, Anna Wilhite 1873 - Duncan, Edward L 1865 - 1935 Duncan, Louisa 1843 - 1853 d/o N & El d 1/4/1853 Age 5y 3mo 12days Duncan, Henry 1836 - 1836 s/o N & EL d. 10/17/1836 Age 10mo Duncan, Geo A 1850 - 1851 s/o A & M d. 11/10/1851 Age 1yr Duncan, Elizabeth L 1844 - 1845 d/o of A & M d. 8/10/1845 Age 1year 9mo 13 days Duncan, Nancy L 1852 - 1852 d/o of A & M d. 5/3/1852 Age 11 mo., 7 days Duncan, Charety A 1842 - 1912 wife of Andrew J. Duncan, Albert O 1864 - 1871 s/o AJ & CH d. 10/25/1871 Age 7yr 10mo 28days Duncan, Minnie H 1866 - 1866 d/o GW & SO d. 10/21/1886 Age 8mo 9days Duncan, Andrew J. 1837 - 1902 Duncan, Elizabeth w/o Nathan d 12/16/1871 Duncan, Tracy E. d. 12/23/1891 Age 2mo 21days Farrar, Lenora Adams 9/13/1898 - Farrar, Hattie 1865 - 1919 Farrar, J Wesley 1863 - 1947 Farrar, George T 1891 - 1967 Farrar, Edna Lucille 1900 - 1976 Farrar, Earl W. 1900 - Hope this helps! Shirley -----Original Message----- From: duncan1 [mailto:duncan1@peaknet.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 7:10 PM To: Harold and Shirley Denson Subject: Duncans and Farrars in Clyde Dear Shirley, Saw your note on the Macoupin page and wondered if you have any information on William Duncan who married Sarah Elizabeth Farrar 1847 in Macoupin Co. The family lived in Clyde ca. 1850. I think that Sarah Elizabeth was the daughter of Green and Luisa Farrar who were also from Clyde. Would greatly appreciate any help you could give me. Thanks and God bless you and yours, Marilyn Duncan

> You mention a book of names in Kinder cementery. My gggrandfather William Burge > m. Melvina.. Had a farm in Hornsby, is his name among the persons in that book? Paul > Subject: [ILMACOUP-L] Kinder Cemetery > Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:14:21 -0800 > From: "Harold and Shirley Denson" <denson@wamusa.com> > To: ILMACOUP-L@rootsweb.com > > The Kinder Cemetery is in what is now known as Hornsby, formally known as > Clyde, IL approximately three miles west of Litchfield, IL. > > The old schoolhouse, church still stands in Hornsby, but is used privately > as a horse stable. There is an older home across the street and to the west > of the stables, but, I am not positive that this is the Wilhite homestead. > Laura Wilhite who lives in Carlinville, IL still owns approximately 240 > acres of land in front of the cemetery. I live in Hornsby, and have an old > book of names and lot numbers of people who are buried in the Kinder > Cemetery. I hope that this information is of help to you. > > Sincerely > Shirley Denson > > -----Original Message----- -- ~~ <*)))>< ~~ <*)))>< <*)))>< ~~~~ <*)))>< ~~~~ ~~~~ <*)))>< ~~~~GOOD LUCK !!! ~~~~ ~~~~ SURNAMES * BURGE/TATMAN/SKOSEY/PIANETTI/TRIBOUT STONE/SANDERGARD/ATTEBERRY/GROVE/HILL>IL WHITE/BUTLER/BOWMAN>MI,CAN LISTOWNER > BURGE-L@ROOTWEB.COM <WEB PAGE> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Village/7278

Additional information found in the book on the Burge surname is as follows: William Burge s/o W&N died 11/2/1850 at 9m Rev William Burge died 8/3/1850 a 75y Melvina Burge w/o Rev W D/o Arron Hood of E. TN b. 7/6/1807 d. 12/23/1878 Hope this helps Shirley