All the coal-mining towns in Southern Illinois, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, etc., attracted immigrants, many of them Lithuanians in the early century. I belong to a Lithuanian geneological list and have volunteered to look up and record Lithuanian names from the cemeteries in Macoupin County, especially Gillespie where I grew up. I have two questions: Is there any information in the historical society in Carlinville about the Lithuanians. I have a feeling they were probably lumped together with Poles and Russians and their identity as Lithuanians was lost. Secondly, I don't relish going to the cemetery and writing down all the Lithuanian names (Holy Cross cemetery is probably over 1/3 Lithuanian). I'm lazy. so, I'm wondering if there is a published list of all the people buried in the various surrounding cemeteries. Thanks for listening. Beni

For anyone researching the PITCHFORD's and related kin of Greene and Macoupin County, there is now a Pitchford List at Rootsweb. PITCHFORD-L@rootsweb.com Karen

Matilda Brown, born in Illinois abt. 1854, married Lewis Koerner from Wurtemburg. They lived in Bird Twp, Macoupin County, where they had children Minnie, Luella M.and Carrie Bell in the 1870's and 1880's. I especially want to know who Matilda's parents were, but any information about this family would be appreciated. Thanks, Pat B.

I am searching for info on "Tegeler" . Fritz Tegeler married Erma Schllop on Sept 12 1880 at Brighton, IL,, by a C.F. Stoerker. Any info,, no matter how trivial would be greatly appreciated !! Christi

At 02:23 PM 3/1/99 -0800, you wrote: > >--WebTV-Mail-247933453-180 >Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > >Jan, I thank you much for the book ID. And the offer to do lookups. Are >there any references to the BINNEYs and the BISSELLs? If so, I may >agree that I should order a copy. My particular interests are the DOD's >and burial sites of HERMAN(HARMON) and MARY BISSELL and the >naturalizations ot the BINNEYs. I have other info on those families if >you or others need it. By the way, I'm working up a plan to visit the >area for the first time this summer to see what their and your country >looks like. Any suggestions? Robert -------------------- Going to Macoupin? This may help a bit. If you have more than one day, do see other area attractions. I kept this from helping Marianne last year or so. One day of research in Carlinville any week day. Have your list of needs with dates ready. Take a notepad and some small post-it types so you can mark pages you want listed in an index or from a ledger itself. Go to the courthouse, block east of the square. Magnificent old building. Walk up the long flight of steps n or s of bldg or go in a bottom floor doorway in what I would call basement and walk up or take elevator to main floor (maybe called second floor - maybe someone can correct me on the elevator buttons). County Clerk's Office on Main Floor. South end hallway, last office on east side. At least meet Anne Easton and if you meet the County Clerk tell him Anne needs a raise. If you need a marriage, old birth cert, that is where it is. If they aren't overwhelmed with "right now" work, they will probably make the copy ($7) right on the spot for you. You can search the ledgers yourself (use the post-its to mark the pages). The indexes/ledgers are right behind Anne's desk. Tell them what you are looking for and they will point you to or drag the ledger down for you. Do most of your own research work of the ledgers and try to stay out of the workers way. Then off to the Circuit Clerk's Office north of the County Clerk's office same side hallway. Takes more time than the County Clerk's Office especially if you want copies of any probate (estate) (court case) type records. You search the recorded and index ledgers yourself (ledgers are more complicated than in the county clerk's office to find yourself the first time) and if you find something original you want, oh boy, the boxes are at the ceiling and you might stand out in the hallway and holler for some strong person to help you. That isn't too far off because I haven't known them to get the boxes down for you. You prob won't get copies on the spot (prob have to be mailed but can get costs - $1 a copy) because they are extremely busy with now type court cases and the copies may be many if you find an estate or court squabble by your ancestors. Note: If you have a will you need, it doesn't necessarily have to come out of the boxes where all the original papers are. They have hand copied the old wills in a ledger. You got deeds you need then off to the Recorder's Office - this office takes more time than the County Clerk's office but less than the Ckt Clerk's office. The old deed index ledgers if they haven't been moved are right up front in the office. Post-its to mark or notepad write down what you want from the ledgers. The copies may/prob not available on the spot. Not first, but if you have time, take the self-guided tour (pick up your walkman-leave returnable deposit at the County Clerk's office - better get your research done first) - leave some time for the library (time running out, may have to fast forward the walkman, you need to be out of the courthouse by 1 or 2 pm <g>). If you remember when you are outside of the courthouse, look south across the street and the old jail built at the time of the courthouse, abt 1860's, is still there. We called it the White Rock Hotel when I lived there and it was in use. Head back to the square, southeast corner/south side square, look for "Book Shelf" store. Run in, ask, no time to browse, for the Macoupin books. They usually stock the Cemetery books, History books, old Atlas, Hicken's Civil War Book, and others for Macoupin. I needed about $100 the first time in the book store, well, maybe a little more. You are starvin'. Easiest for me to say, is on the way to the Library below, going off the square north about a block or two look east/right, Jubelt's Bakery and Restaurant would be the quickest. Of course, if you want to take the time, Hardees, McDonalds, Dairy Queen, are in the area. Need Walmart, off the square west, keep on truckin' across RR tracks, then abt an eighth to quarter mile look to right/north. Out by Walmart in a little strip type mall is a good pizza/italian place called Nicks. Off the square north a few blocks watching on west side of road for the library (Mon.-Thu. 2:00 p.m.-8:00 p.m. Fri. - Sat. 9:00 a.m.-5:00 p.m.). In order first, Genealogy room, first run thru the file cabinets for any file with your family surname - use the post-its. Gotta page number of an original census sheet for Macoupin you just gotta have, ck the microfilm holdings for census and other types of resources, oh, area newpapers for obits (hopefully, you have experience from the LDS FHC threading the microfilm reader - oops may not have a copier on their reader?? do have a reader). Then the shelves, grab the books you need copies from, use the post-its marking on post-its the page numbers. Ck the time. Take the stack of material with post-its to desk for copying if you aren't allowed to do the copying yourself. Oh, forgot, if you find a lot of stuff to copy you want, better have an extra $100 or so with you for that purpose. If that had been my first time for one day, I could have easily spent that and more for copies, etc, especially with the $7 per cert and $1 each page. Hopefully, you will have a husband or 2nd party with you that you can kinda boss around. Like, "look in that ledger/book for ?" and "make me a copy of this." Take you a month to go thru all the goodies when you return home. There are other places in Carlinville to see and do but for one day of research the above is what I would advise if you have a list of research which needs to be done. Maybe some others can throw some different suggestions out for your day of research in Carlinville. For area touring, visit Carlinville Community Chamber of Commerce site at: http://www.carlinville.com and Town-Square at: http://www.town-square.net/ Gloria

Cindy Leonard asked me for some advice on doing a web page. Others, I am sure, are sitting "out there" with free web space from your ISP and have no idea what to do with it. These are my thots and maybe if you all don't get too lengthy, Kathleen might let you get by with putting your suggestions for doing a web page on the list. (Better copy Cindy. Not sure she is on this list.) Since I don't have much time while doing the census, Kathleen has been learning html and has been doing some of our Macoupin pages like all the township pages and updating some of the others. She might be able to give some firsthand experience with web page learning. I haven't the time to spend with her as I have with some others in the past. She is clawing it out on her own. Think she also found some classes to take. My thots: Best way to write html is in wordpad or notepad. I am serious. Once you learn html, there is so much more at hand to use. I use a WYSIWYG editor now but still do a lot of my editing in wordpad manually. You can use a WYSIWYG editor and never learn html. That is up to you. Many type editors on the market so try different ones. My suggestion for a "manual" editor is Homesite. I only use WS_FTP for my uploading to the net and no I don't want anything else because I have never had any trouble with it. Url for htmlgoodies below gives a lot of the basics. I suggest you write very very basic and master what you are putting up before trying fancy stuff. According to what kind of page you are designing as to the type of stuff on it. If it is just for fun, then all the prettys, animateds, etc, are fine. Prettys load slow so have to decide how slow you want your user to have to spend in downloading your page. Not many in genealogy want a lot of prettys, they want data. I get carried away once in awhile with the prettys and have to learn to back off. If you are thoughtful, then you have to think of people using older browsers and locking up with frames and/or music. Music should be started with a button, not come up playing when the page is loaded. Tables are very good tools for doing basic html stuff on a web page. They hold things where you want them. http://www.freewareplus.com/95docs/html.htm http://www.freewareplus.com/95docs/ftp.htm http://www.htmlgoodies.com/primers/primer_1.html Gloria Frazier Macoupin County ILGenWeb Coordinator

--WebTV-Mail-247933453-180 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Jan, I thank you much for the book ID. And the offer to do lookups. Are there any references to the BINNEYs and the BISSELLs? If so, I may agree that I should order a copy. My particular interests are the DOD's and burial sites of HERMAN(HARMON) and MARY BISSELL and the naturalizations ot the BINNEYs. I have other info on those families if you or others need it. By the way, I'm working up a plan to visit the area for the first time this summer to see what their and your country looks like. Any suggestions? Robert --WebTV-Mail-247933453-180 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-101-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.98) by postoffice-112.iap.bryant.webtv.net; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:21:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: <ILMACOUP-D-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by mailsorter-101-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id KAA26406; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:21:14 -0800 (PST) From: ILMACOUP-D-request@rootsweb.com Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA22595; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:21:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:21:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199903011821.KAA22595@bl-14.rootsweb.com> Subject: ILMACOUP-D Digest V99 #53 X-Loop: ILMACOUP-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <ILMACOUP-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume99/53 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: ILMACOUP-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: ILMACOUP-L@rootsweb.com - ---------------------------- Content-Type: text/plain ILMACOUP-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 53 Today's Topics: #1 [ILMACOUP-L] We Will Go To a New L [Accentjan@aol.com] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from ILMACOUP-D, send a message to ILMACOUP-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ - ----------------------------

In a message dated 3/1/99 5:30:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, glofra@townsqr.com writes: > > Since I don't have much time while doing the census, Kathleen has > been learning html and has been doing some of our Macoupin pages > like all the township pages and updating some of the others. She > might be able to give some firsthand experience with web page > learning. I haven't the time to spend with her as I have with some > others in the past. She is clawing it out on her own. Think she > also found some classes to take. > Hi, If you want to learn HTML there are two good places to start: 1. Check out Dr. Joe Burns HTML Goodies. This site is the basics and only the basics. This is not the site for technical people - this is the basics. http://www.htmlgoodies.com/primers/primer_1.html from DR Burns site: "What is HTML? HTML are initials that stand for HyperText Mark-up Language. (Computer people love initials and acronyms--you'll be talking acronyms ASAP in no time). Let me break it down for you: Hyper is the opposite of linear. It used to be that computer programs had to move in a linear fashion. This before this, this before this, and so on. HTML does not hold to that pattern and allows the person viewing the World Wide Web page to go anywhere, any time they want. Text is what you will use, real, honest to goodness English letters. Mark-up is what you will do. You will write in plain English and then mark-up what you wrote. More to come on that in the next Primer. Language because they needed something that started with "L" to finish HTML and Hypertext Mark-up Louie didn't flow correctly. Because it's a language, really -- but the language is plain English. " Note above this is the basics. If you go to Dr. Burns site look on the left hand side for something called "Goodies to Go" To Subscribe all you have to do is type your e-mail address. He even made this easy - type just your e-mail address - nothing else. Than about once a week you get Dr. Burns "Goodies to Go! Newsletter" This is great for the non technical person who wants to improve their computer skills. 2. Check your local schools - our elementary school offers computer classes for adults. My son's high school is offering a 3 night Web making class for FREE. This class is how to use a HTML package - but - it is a start and it is FREE. So call your schools - our schools received government grant money for technology training of the students and part of the deal is they must also educate the public. For some classes there is a charge - but all are under $100 - and many are free. Our elementary school is offering EXCEL - WORD - Power Point and a few other classes. The hardest part about HTML - is what to do with it after you write the code. Start by seeing if your INTERNET provider will give you a little space for your INTERNET site. Please send me your ideas for the Macoupin County page - Gloria and I will see what ideas we can include. Happy Hunting, Kathie

Robert, The book "We Will Go to a New Land -- The Great East Frisian Migration to American 1845-1895" was published by Behrens Publishing Company. You can write to them at PO Box 436, Mahomet, Illinois 61853. The price was about $40 -- and well worth every penny. There are many, many names mentioned, including lots of references to Macoupin County. I have the book and would be happy to do look-ups. Jan accentjan@aol.com

The following URL will let you fill out a query form and will return a USGS TIGER map of the feature. If you name a state and county, and enter cemetery for the feature, it will return a table of all known cemeteries in the county. You can then click on the cemetery for a location, descriptioin and a map. I have found this very helpful. Jack Cox http://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html -- My family tree and home page: http://www.kc.net/~jack_cox

Well, doggies, sorry for wasting time. I think I found it here: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/m_bksale.htm Gloria At 09:11 PM 2/21/99 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Gloria, >Trying to find where to buy Robert H. Behrens book " We Will Go To a New >Land - The Great East Frisian Migration to America 1845-1895". It was >listed in the last "Macoupin County Searcher" as New on the Shelf...I >have tried all online Bookstores search to no avail. Would appreciate >any info on that ...Thanks. And Thanks for doing such good genealogy >work. >Robert Schlomann >Colo Springs >Member Macoupin Co Genealogy Society >fineink@worldnet.att.net > >

Carol, is that an e-magazine? url? Gloria >X-Originating-IP: [208.220.141.54] >From: "Carol Cyrus" <ccyrus@hotmail.com> >To: glofra@townsqr.com >Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP-L] Book >Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 19:33:27 PST > >Bob, >Have you tried Heritage Quest? I believe they listed it in my most >current magazine. >Carol > > >>From ilmacoup-l-request@rootsweb.com Fri Feb 26 17:46:59 1999 >>Received: (from slist@localhost) >> by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA23947; >> Fri, 26 Feb 1999 17:31:25 -0800 (PST) >>Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 17:31:25 -0800 (PST) >>Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990226194012.007cc430@townsqr.com> >>X-Sender: glofra@townsqr.com >>X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) >>Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 19:40:12 -0600 >>Old-To: ILMACOUP-L@rootsweb.com >>From: Gloria Frazier <glofra@townsqr.com> >>Old-Cc: cindyldq@midwest.net >>Mime-Version: 1.0 >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>Subject: [ILMACOUP-L] Book >>Resent-Message-ID: <"qQfESB.A.s0F.or012"@bl-14.rootsweb.com> >>To: ILMACOUP-L@rootsweb.com >>Resent-From: ILMACOUP-L@rootsweb.com >>X-Mailing-List: <ILMACOUP-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1599 >>X-Loop: ILMACOUP-L@rootsweb.com >>Precedence: list >>Resent-Sender: ILMACOUP-L-request@rootsweb.com >> >>Can anyone help Bob?? >>Thanks >>gf >> >> >>Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:11:31 -0700 >>From: Bob <fineink@worldnet.att.net> >>Reply-To: fineink@worldnet.att.net >>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) >>To: glofra@townsqr.com >>Subject: Book >> >>Hi Gloria, >>Trying to find where to buy Robert H. Behrens book " We Will Go To >>a New >>Land - The Great East Frisian Migration to America 1845-1895". It was >>listed in the last "Macoupin County Searcher" as New on the Shelf...I >>have tried all online Bookstores search to no avail. Would appreciate >>any info on that ...Thanks. And Thanks for doing such good genealogy >>work. >>Robert Schlomann >>Colo Springs >>Member Macoupin Co Genealogy Society >>fineink@worldnet.att.net >> >> >>==== ILMACOUP Mailing List ==== >>To look at 1850 Macoupin County, IL census - >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/1850census/index.htm >> >> > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >

Can anyone help Bob?? Thanks gf Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:11:31 -0700 From: Bob <fineink@worldnet.att.net> Reply-To: fineink@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) To: glofra@townsqr.com Subject: Book Hi Gloria, Trying to find where to buy Robert H. Behrens book " We Will Go To a New Land - The Great East Frisian Migration to America 1845-1895". It was listed in the last "Macoupin County Searcher" as New on the Shelf...I have tried all online Bookstores search to no avail. Would appreciate any info on that ...Thanks. And Thanks for doing such good genealogy work. Robert Schlomann Colo Springs Member Macoupin Co Genealogy Society fineink@worldnet.att.net

Looking for info on Perry or Commodore Hogue or Hogg and wife Eda Daniels Hogue or Hogg-had children born in Macoupin co. in early to late 1850s and early 1860s named Malinda, Jesse, Doug, Samuel and possibly others-Elijah and William may have been born in White Co. before they moved to macoupin. from macoupin all went to Mo and Ark-Any help on 1860 and 1870 census-also info on Palmyra daniels and daniels who were probably with Hogues-Thanks- Ray Hogue ranhogue@hjanics.com

FYI As Gloria is still under the weather, thought I better inform Macoupin. Message received: Subject: GenConnect will be down > >GenConnect will be down for possibly a few days while it is worked on. >Please advise your visitors, should they ask. > >Thanks, >Pam >GenConnect This is the Query system used by Macoupin, so if you are having problems, this is why. Mary Ann Kaylor County Coordinator & Mail List Manager Jersey County ILGenWeb <http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljersey/index.html> My STEWART and ROBISON Home Page: <http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/k/a/y/Mary-Ann--Kaylor>

I am looking for information about Sarah C. Scott b. 18 Jan. 1822 in NC, daughter of Robert and Martha ? Scott. Sarah married. Frederick A. (F.A.) Jackson, b. 10 Oct. 1818, 7 March 1839 in Claysville, Harrison Co., KY. Frederick d. 25 Jan. 1898; Sarah d. 6 June 1890. Frederick, Sarah and a son, Robert , are buried in Mitchell Cemetery, Macoupin Co., IL. Thanks, Gary Mitchell

I need to know if Jo. is an abbreviation for John or Joseph, or possibly something else? Thanks, Mary

Joy, In regard to your friends use of magic markers on books, etc., there a couple of problems with magic markers. One is that when you highlight words with a magic marker on a paper, when same paper is photocopied the magic marker print is also copied onto the second copy, leaving a dark stain over the words. Second, highlighting pens should never be used to mark books. It ruins the book, and takes away seriously from the quality of the book. Think after you or I are gone that book may continue on to be used by others and if it is highlighted all through with yellow marking--I have even seen turqoise highlighting--it makes the book more diffiucult to read besides also causing the above photocopy problelm. Also I have received from other researchers photocopies of papers that have stick-ons with various family notes written on them. Usually the stick-ons are stuck over the text at some place and if I want to photocopy the paper I have to remove the stick-ons and figure out how to get both the info in the text and the info on the stick-on onto the same photocopy. (Usually I wind up writing the info on the stick-on into the margin of the text.) And the other thing about stick-ons is that after a few months they don't stick anymore, then the bottom of your file cabinet or floor becomes covered with fallen stick-ons and how do you get them to stick on now. For me the it used to be that the best thing for separating families was a notebook with an index tab paper divider. The tab that lists the surname. Of course I say "used to be" because now I put everything into a file folder and file it in a file cabinet, surname first, then first name, then date of birth. On the file folder itself I write in pencil the cross references, such as, see Jane Jones (1828) file also. Anyway, some experience with magic markers and stick ons. Jim Windsor

Hi, I am helping Gloria with the Township pages: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/m_towns.htm I have added Township and Range information to each township. This information should be helpful when doing research with Deeds and Census records. Example: the Township and Range for Gillespie Township is T8N R7W. I need your help with the following: 1. If you know of a High School, both public and private, in Macoupin County on the Internet please send me the information. Don't forget to tell me what township the school is located in. I want to add school links to each township. 2. If you know of a Macoupin County Library on the Internet please send me that information. 3. If you have difficulty reading text in certain colors, please let me know what colors would be a better choice. 4. Please send me your ideas for the township pages. 5. Please let me know of any links that do not work. Happy Hunting, Kathie

Debi, I am helping Gloria Frazier to verify e-mail addresses on the Macoupin County Lookup page. Your mail came back as undeliverable. Please e-mail me with your new e-mail address. Kathie