Hi everyone, Quite a while back some kind soul looked up my Thomas NEFF in the 1850 Census records. At the time he was living with another family in Sangamon County. I have lost the message but I think the message indicated that he was living with the Grissano family from TN or KY... Is there anyone out there who might be able to confirm this information for me. I would be very grateful. The only info on the census record that I did manage to save is: On the 1850 SANGAMON CO., ILLINOIS Census there is: NEFF, Thomas no township listed page 156 On the 1860, SANGAMON CO., ILLINOIS Census NEFF S. # 749 T: WILLIAMSVILLE P. O NEFF T. # 506 T: CHATHAM P. O Regards, Charlie _______________________________________________________________________ * Charles A. Neff * Elyria, OH * cneff@oh.verio.net * _______________________________________________________________________ Researching: CARTER(NH,ME,OH,IN,IA), NEFF(TN,IL), GARDNER(IL) GRAVES(NY,IL), WILSON(KY,IL), WITHROW(KY,IL) _______________________________________________________________________

I have been agonizing over this Duncan stuff and some more documents that I had previously and have found some answers, of course new questions as well. About Elizabeth , Absalom, Nathan and John R. Duncan What are your sources for Elizabeth and Nathan as children of Absolom Duncan and Patsy Bynum, please. Might it not be just as likely that Nathan, John R. & Absalom were brothers and Elizabeth the daughter of one of the many other Duncans in Lincoln Co. NC at that time? I find An Absalom or two or three in Lincoln Co in 1800, 1810, 1820, 1830, 1840. Our Absalom with Franklin are in Alton, Madison Co. in 1840. The Geo. W. Duncan who signed for Elizabeth in 1878 has to be the son of Nathan, and he says he is a nephew of Absalom and Elizabeth. He could have been a nephew of either one of them and still been called nephew to both. Do you have more than this to think Elizabeth and Nathan were sister and brother? The Nathan who also witnessed could be her bro. or son in 1856, both were probably living in Macoupin. I have an affidavit of decease for John R. Duncan, which names all his children and wife Uly Ann Killon, so that helps to straighten out some of the families. I also have their Marriage bond from Lincoln NC Oct 1, 1807. I'll send you copies if you don't have them. I think I got them from Mildred Milliken of De Whitt AR, or Marilyn Duncan, I've lost her address. Have you corresponded with either of them? Wish I could help with placing your Susannah. I find Catherine, wife of Nathan burried with Franklin and wife Elizabeth, which leads me to believe strongly that Nathan was Franklin's bro. and as James Caulk is one of the witnesses to Elizabeth's depositions, I feel his wife Martha P. Duncan also belongs in that family too. Anyway, I'm very happy to have proof of Franklins parents, I'' be eternally grateful for that proof. Thanks, Katharine PS Have you ever had access to the Biography of Dr. Wesley Duncan? I have not seen it, but would like to.

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C5_01BE8439.AF12CDC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Someone out there did a lookup for me of the surname BURGE. In the Kindred Cemetery near Hornsby. The name of Frank, Rev. William his wife Melvina and son William. I got a win 98 computer and apparently the info didn't import correct. Could the person or someone do a lookup for me. And email me the information my memory just don't remember as much as it did. Thanks Paul ------=_NextPart_000_00C5_01BE8439.AF12CDC0 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Herschell Paul Burge.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Herschell Paul Burge.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Burge;Herschell;Paul FN:Herschell Paul Burge EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:hburge@bellsouth.net REV:19990411T203809Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_00C5_01BE8439.AF12CDC0--

HI ALL I an looking for the following ancestors in my family lines. Some will also be in surrounding counties. Kerwin Morrisey/Morrissey Spresser Barrett Cole Hedden Ladd Williams Webb Dunbar Hinton Wilson Carroll Phillips Shimp Conder/Condor Bartlett Waddle Sheriff Dunbar Hawkins Crockett Gilbert Stinnett Stephens Coleman Sessions Mundhenke Thomas Martin Kalka Taylor Sharp Kirk Hathaway Tannahill Bethard Barringer VanCleave Does anyone know of or have an extra THS, Taylorville, IL., "DRIFT" 1970-71-72 yearsbooks? Also, a MHS, Morrisonville, IL., 1972 yearbook? Please help me with my family hisotry. All of my greats and grands are gone. My parents home burned a couple of years w everything, except what they had on the backs, in the middle of the nite during a wind and ice storm. All they had and I had saved there went up with the fire. I may have a little something on same names, but not all, for minor look ups since I belong to so many listings. Please help me out. I have 6 kids and 6 grandkids to pass this along to. I have the only kids in my family and they have been asking for things. Thanks Sally Hathaway sjhathaway@aol.com

There has been talk about the accuracy of the LDS files that have been made available on the INTERNET recently. Just remember ALL documents, databases and books have mistakes. But, these are great places to begin your search. Documents also have mistakes. My own birth certificate is a perfect example. My mother's maiden name is incorrect on my birth certificate. It list Sheldon her stepfather's name. Her maiden name is Hamley. I now have a two page birth certificate - first page is the original with Sheldon and second contains the corrections - Hamley. If someone should find only the first page they would have the wrong information. My baptism and marriage certificate are correct. My sister's birth certificate is correct. When I was about 20 my grandmother had my California birth certificate corrected - this is why it is now two pages. My grandmother who did this was my father's mother - no one else cared about having it corrected. So unless you have DNA proof - question ALL documents, books and databases. You should verify all of your direct ancestors. Happy Hunting, Kathie Mirabella

Researchers, The main thing I really want is to learn the identity of the first wife of Alexander CARRICO. He would have been married after 1850 and perhaps before 1855. They had a child, Mary J. CARRICO, born ca. 1857, according to the 1860 census. An unknown female child was indicated in the 1855 census, as I mention below. Mary J. CARRICO is not seen after 1870, probably due to marriage. Was there a 1865 or 1875 state census of Illinois? If so, where can one be viewed? John D. Sissom - JDSissom@JUNO.COM member: Wood Co Chap OGS sola fide

My Samuel Rhoads came to Macoupin County, along with his father and five brothers, about 1832 and settled at Medora. His first wife died there 1 September 1834, and Samuel married Frances Keele, in Greene County on 28 February 1836. Frances supposedly died in MN 24 February 1863, while the family was visiting, or had moved to MN. Samuel returned to Macoupin County and married (3) elizabeth Ables, widow of Armested Ables. Samuel died 16 September 1877 in Macoupin County, but I have not found any estate record or grave for him. The old Rhoads Cemetery just outside of Medora is badly overgrown, but we were unable to find a stone there. Can anyone help me determine where Samuel is buried? I am also interested in any Rhoads information about any of the members of the family. Al Rhods Madison, AL

Anna SMITH was born Abt. 1844 in Glasgow Junction, (Park City) Barren County, Kentucky, and died Aft. 1892 in Illinois. She married Charles LONG. More About Anna SMITH: Residence: 1880, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois Where Found: 1850, Barren County, Kentucky 1318/1353 More About Charles LONG: B. c 1836, England. Residence: 1880, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois, he and parents from England. Children of Anna SMITH and Charles LONG are: i. JOHN LONG. ii. JERRY LONG. Residence: 22 Nov 1921, Little Rock, Arkansas iii. NETTIE LONG, d. Aft. 1948; m. UNKNOWN WARD. Residence: 1948, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois iv. PERVANIA A. LONG, b. 1877. v. CHARLES J. LONG, b. 1879. John and Jerry are twins. I am interested in communicating with family researchers and/or family members. John D. Sissom 1312 Corvair Court Kokomo, IN 46902-2531 John D. Sissom - john@sissom.cx member: Wood Co Chap OGS sola fide

EDWARD N. DIXON was born 10 Dec 1845, and died 08 Jan 1908 in Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois. He married SARAH JANE SMITH, daughter of JEREMIAH SMITH and PURVANIA CLARK. More About EDWARD N. DIXON: Burial: Fishback Cemetery, Brushy Mound TWP, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois More About SARAH JANE SMITH: Burial: Fishback Cemetery, Brushy Mound TWP, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois Where Found: 1850, Barren County, Kentucky 1318/1353 Children of EDWARD DIXON and SARAH SMITH are: i. BENTON E. DIXON, d. Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois. More About BENTON E. DIXON: Burial: Fishback Cemetery, Brushy Mound TWP, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois ii. EDNA M. DIXON, d. Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois. More About EDNA M. DIXON: Burial: Fishback Cemetery, Brushy Mound TWP, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois iii. NORMAN DIXON. iv. LILLIAN DIXON. v. LULU ELLEN DIXON, b. 24 May 1895; m. BERT DUMAS. I am interested in communicating with family researchers and/or family members. John D. Sissom 1312 Corvair Court Kokomo, IN 46902-2531 John D. Sissom - john@sissom.cx member: Wood Co Chap OGS sola fide

Macoupin Researchers: Could some knowledgable individual inform me as to the availability of birth, death and marriage records in Macoupin County, Illinois? Are they available in published form? What years are available? Where? (I do not have www access.) John D. Sissom - john@sissom.cx member: Wood Co Chap OGS sola fide

Hi Researchers, Lennie HARLAN was born in Macoupin County, Illinois, Abt. 1866, married Jim EDWARDS and had Florence EDWARDS who lived in Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana, for a while after her marriage. Mrs. Lennie EDWARDS lived at 923 W. 52nd St., Los Angeles, CA in 1948 Florence EDWARDS, the child of Lennie HARLAN and James EDWARDS was born ca. 1888, married Unknown SHOEMAKER, lived in Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana, had a daughter, June SHOEMAKER, ca. 1908, and a son, name unknown SHOEMAKER, born ca. 1910. Desire to communicate with any researcher or descendant of this family. John D. Sissom - john@sissom.cx member: Wood Co Chap OGS sola fide

Hi Researchers, My cousin, Nettie (LONG) WARD was living in Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois, at Christmas, 1948. It is the belief of the family that she died there. I would appreciate someone who has access to Carlinville cemetery indices checking for a date and place of burial. Also need any other WARDs who may be buried nearby. Nettie Ward lived at 522 South Locust Street, Carlinville, Illinois, in 1948. Thank you. John D. Sissom - john@sissom.cx member: Wood Co Chap OGS sola fide

Marilyn, What a surprise when I read your email this morning. I too, just received a call this morning from my son, Evan, who will be going to assist with refugee relocation in Kosovo. Though you were unaware of it your message was timely for others who will be sending sons. thanks. Brenda Smith ILMACOUP reading duncan1 wrote: > Our prayers are with your son and with all those serving in the > military, especially those in Kosovo. May our Lord bless and keep them > and comfort and strengthen their families. > Marilyn > > ==== ILMACOUP Mailing List ==== > Difference between ILMACOUP-L and ILMACOUP-D: > ILMACOUP-L mailing list allows you to receive every posting made to ILMACOUP as a separate email. > ILMACOUP-D mailing list allows you to receive several postings as a single large message.

Our prayers are with your son and with all those serving in the military, especially those in Kosovo. May our Lord bless and keep them and comfort and strengthen their families. Marilyn

Marilyn, What a surprise when I read your email this morning. I too, just received a call this morning from my son, Evan, who will be going to assist with refugee relocation in Kosovo. Though you were unaware of it your message was timely for others who will be sending sons. thanks. Brenda Smith ILMACOUP reading duncan1 wrote: > Our prayers are with your son and with all those serving in the > military, especially those in Kosovo. May our Lord bless and keep them > and comfort and strengthen their families. > Marilyn > > ==== ILMACOUP Mailing List ==== > Difference between ILMACOUP-L and ILMACOUP-D: > ILMACOUP-L mailing list allows you to receive every posting made to ILMACOUP as a separate email. > ILMACOUP-D mailing list allows you to receive several postings as a single large message.

Date: Sat, 03 Apr 99 08:00:25 PST From: mmckenzi To: Jschlater@aol.com; AAtwins94@aol.com; Cindy Leonard; Gloria Frazier; KathieMir; Mary Ann Kaylor Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP-L] Nelson and Moore Hi, I am not related to this person, but have indexed the obits from the B. H. Gazette for 1898. This is what I found for Rev. Horatio Nelson. Bunker Hill Gazette, Aug. 3, 1898 and Old Settlers Reunion News, Aug. 31, 1898. Rev. Horatio Nelson, residence is Bunker Hill, IL. He was born Sep. 11, 1818 in New Hampshire. He was a Methodist minister and farmer. He died July 29, 1898 (one issue says he died Jul. 26, 1898) Aged 78 years, 10 months. Second articles says 79 years 10 months and 18 days. He died at Bunker Hill at the home of his daughter Mrs. I. W. Camp. He leaves one child, Mrs. I. W. Camp. He was married twice. He was buried under one of the beautiful trees by the side of his wife who died last April. He was ordained a deacon the 21 Oct. 1860 in Bunker Hill by Bishop Simpson (Sampson in other article) of Alton; two years later he was ordained Elder by Bishop Ames of Alton. He served pulpits in Macoupin and Madison counties. He moved to Brighton in 1836. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------- Anyone else out there looking for Rev. Horatio NELSON (1818-1898) and wife Angeline MOORE (1818-1877). Both are buried at Bunker Hill Cemetery. ==== ILMACOUP Mailing List ==== Difference between ILMACOUP-L and ILMACOUP-D: ILMACOUP-L mailing list allows you to receive every posting made to ILMACOUP as a separate email. ILMACOUP-D mailing list allows you to receive several postings as a single large message.

> Subject: [ILMACOUP-L] Re: Early divorce records > Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 13:33:43 -0800 > From: "Dave and Janis" <foleys@tx3.com> > To: ILMACOUP-L@rootsweb.com > I too, would be interested in this information. My great-grandmother was living near Woodburn in Macoupin Co. when she was divorced ca 1883. As the subject was taboo at the time, don't know if she would have been divorced in St. Louis, if the laws would have permitted that, or not. She later remarried in Brooklyn, New York, still returning to live at Woodburn. About twenty years ago, I got a copy of this later marriage license, in person, and saw the original record which shows her as being divorced. When the clerk made the "official" sealed copy, it states "never married before." So much for official records!

One of our Macoupin County researchers living in Macoupin has a son flying in Kosovo. Yes, he and you are in our prayers. And, yes, I support our military. Thanks, for letting me know about your son. "My son is flying in Kosovo right now. He is an F-16 pilot and has seen lots of action this week! He saw the first MIG shot down and was working in the tower the night the F17 came down. It was the plane of his good friend who lives in NM. Luckily Ken was not in the plane on this mission. He is about to get out to fly commercial. My boy is stationed in Germany as a rule. I am so very proud of him and excited for him too. He has trained for almost ten years for just this sort of mission. Keep him in your prayers please. I know that you had served as well. No matter how people feel about our being there, they should back the military in every way." Gloria ------------------ Gloria Frazier Macoupin County ILGenWeb County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/macoupin.htm

I know there is a lot out on the net about these viruses but just making sure here by sending info at the bottom of this msg. I am not a guru so you need to check at some official sites. Melissa virus is not a hoax. The virus is in the form of a .doc extension attachment, they say. Do not open the attachment. happy99.exe is not a hoax. This is a pretty fireworks, they say. Do not open the attachment. Both can be received by you and sent by you and you won't know you have it or have sent it on until someone tells you. I have recd two happy99.exe, luckily "on" an email and not as an attachment so didn't infect anything. The first person didn't know they had it and have it cleaned up now. I haven't had time to tell the second person. I am sure they don't know they sent it. Below is the stuff on melissa. (A note: "they say" the person who created melissa has been caught.) Both are fixable so not to panic. Yes, you need virus checkers. McAfee or Norton are good checkers. I have both and run my attachments thru them before opening. Gloria - ------------------------------ To: The Screen Savers <<mailto:the_screen_savers@mail.zdlists.com Date: Saturday, March 27, 1999 10:26 PM Subject: The Screen Savers Today - Urgent Extra Hi, this is Leo writing to you with an urgent virus warning. We don't normally send you mail on Sundays, but there's a new email virus we thought you should know about, not because it's destructive, but because it spreads so rapidly. This virus can affect anyone who uses Microsoft Word. And if you use Outlook 97 or 98 as your email program, you could be spreading it unwittingly. The virus is a Word macro virus called Melissa. As currently propagated, it arrives in your email as a message with the subject "Important Message from" and the name of someone you may well know. The body of the message contains "Here is that document you asked for ... don't show anyone else ;-)". The virus payload is contained in an attached Microsoft Word document. Don't open that Word document! Once you do, if you use Outlook for your email the virus will attempt to send infected messages to the top 50 names in your address book. Those people may also become infected if they open the attached Word document. Because the virus lives in a Visual Basic for Applications (VBA) module, it can easily be moved to any other Microsoft Office product, including Excel, Access, and Powerpoint. The virus is contained the Word document, not the email message itself, so you can't rely on the email message alone as a way to know if you've received the virus. Because this virus immediately sends 50 copies of itself to your friends on activation, we believe it may be the fastest spreading virus we've ever seen. That's why we're taking the unusual step of sending you this message. What to do now: * Don't open email attachments, even if they're from someone you know. It is perfectly safe to read the contents of the email, however (unless you're using Word as your email reader). It's the attached documents that pose a risk. * Update your anti-virus software. Norton Anti-Virus and McAfee both have updates that detect Melissa and prevent infection. If you're using another product check with your vendor for updates. What to do in general: * Always keep your anti-virus product up-to-date * Be careful about opening files attached to email, even if you know the person who sent it. For more information about this virus visit: http://www.zdnn.com http://www.zdnn.com http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/mailissa.html http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/mailissa.html Sorry to bother you on a Sunday, but I thought you'd want to know about this. Thanks for watching The Screen Savers! Leo Laporte Host/Managing Editor The Screen Savers ZDTV = And check the URL's that I included in the last message. CERT information about the Melissa virus is available on the Web at http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-99-04-Melissa-Macro-Virus.html. Microsoft has a patch available at http://www.microsoft.com/security/bulletins/ms99-002.asp. ----------------------------------------

Happy Easter, Just wanted to let you know about the new TEST LDS site: http://www.familysearch.org. I did a search on my Macoupin County, IL Wheeler's and now have some new leads. Below is some data I found when I typed in Albin Newberry - note it did a soundex search. Not sure if below is related to my Albin Newberry of PA - but - it makes an interesting clue, lead or nothing at all. Happy Hunting, Kathie Mirabella **************************************************************************** Albines NEWBURY Sex: M Event(s): Christened: 20 Feb 1686 Alverstoke, Hampshire, England Parents: Father: John NEWBURY Mother: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Source Information: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Batch number: J073571 Sheet: Source: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --