Is anyone researching Thomas West of Macoupin Co? If so, please drop me a note. Thanks - -- Debi Fort Myers, FL df620@gate.net - - - - - - - - - Funny, I don't remember being absent minded.

FYI You can get print-out copies (paper) from the Deaths microfiche at IL State Archives, of all of one surname. Have done it many times! Then I pick a couple I am intersted in and send for them (with research coupon/voucher). Mary Ann At 09:05 AM 5/3/99 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Judy, > >Where does it say Ellen doesn't have his last name?? You might just >be seeing her maiden name written and she would still have his last >name. Very unusual during those years that she wouldn't have taken >his last name. > >Here are the Ellen's listed on the IL State Gen Soc **pre 1900** IL >Marriages CD (not all IL counties and not all IL marriages for any >county listed may be on this CD): >Sequence Name Reference Name Vol Page License County Date >SMALL, ELLEN KAPPELLEN, WILLIAM 7 3 683 MADISON 09-08-1871 >SMALL, ELLEN O STOKES, JOHN E 9 WHITE 03-12-1872 >SMALL, ELLEN W (MISS) OVERSTREET, ARCHIBALD T 5 27 4983 MACOUPIN >12-12-1865 >No CARBELON or CARBELLION surname listed. >See for more information on this CD (including list of counties and >years contained in): >ISGS PUBLICATIONS PRICE LIST >http://www.tbox.com/isgs/publications.html > >Brighton Cemetery Book: >Carbelon, Mamie B. 4yr. 1880-1884, page 90(cem book lists burials >thru 1985) > >For years after 1900 for any vital certificate, you will need to >work with the county courthouse by going to the courthouse or hire >a professional researcher to go and start checking for you. "Out >here" we don't have access to current records after 1900. > >Pro researchers: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/m_pros.htm > >If me, I would make a trip to the courthouse 300 miles away and ask >to go thru some death indexes, etc. Call first the County Clerk of >Macoupin County and see what is available and where you need to go >- might be in Springfield IL at the state level. County Clerk phone >number - 217-854-3214 > >One other idea and I need to get back to the census we are >proofreading and trying to get online. > >Call the archives and ask what you need to do to get a microfiche >of all one surname for years 1916 to 1947. Ben might have died >between those years. Think you can request two so might want to ask >about Carbelon (variation). Will probably need to send in $5 and >each fiche will cost 50 cents and they will deduct it from your $5 >voucher. >IL State Archives >Norton Bldg. >Springfield, IL 62756 >217-782-4682 >(If you do get fiche, you can take your fiche to a local library, >library large enough to have a fiche reader.) > >If you find your death did not occur between 1916 and 1947, check >these sites and maybe call the state for years after 1947 (I am >guessing but might give you something to head for). >VitalChek >http://www.vitalchek.com/ >VitalChek IL >http://www.vitalchek.com/stateselect.asp?state=IL >VitalChek Springfield for All >http://www.vitalchek.com/displayprovider.asp?provider=3639 > >I am copying some other people who will straighten me out if I am >on the "wrong path." > >Might read this site to get you better started on your research: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/m_steps.htm > >Good luck. > >Gloria > >-------------------- >Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 01:39:07 -0500 >From: "Judith L. Easley" <jleasley@mediaone.net> >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) >X-Accept-Language: en >To: glofra@townsqr.com >Subject: RE: Family Search > >Gloria, > >I was not confused but amazed at the information you provided. > >Is Ellen buried in the area? Do you have any info on Ben Mosby the >barber? My grandfather's parents have been a puzzle for a long time. >All I have ever known for sure is their first names. Finding the last >name has been a problem. I even know where they were born but no last >names. I recently found an article on my grandfather that states his >parents names were Benjamin Lambert and Ellen (Small) Mosby. >However, >in the census (1900, I believe, I am doing this from memory) it states >Ellen and Benjamin being married for 25 years. How can that be if she >doesn't have his last name? They couldn't possibly allow her not to >take his name during that time period. Or am I wrong? This is >driving >me batty. Maybe one avenue is to investigate a marriage license. I >don't know any more, however, I am curious for the solution to this >puzzle. Any suggestions? Ellen also had two children by a German man >named Carbellion. These two children had his last name. Is there >anyone named Carbellion in the cemetery listings? It would be a girl >possibly named Catherine-not sure-this is from memory. > >Thank you for your time and effort. > > >Judy > >------------------------------- >Copy: >>Looks like a possibility for a misspelling in the birth index for >maybe a brother of your grandfather?? We transcribed the earliest >birth index for the net but we didn't change the original >spellings, etc. >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/ >Mosely, Benj L. and Ellen, William, 1878, Book 1, Page 56. > >If interested, $7 to: >County Clerk >Macoupin County Courthouse >Carlinville, IL > >Births weren't required to be recorded until 1916. They did start >recording them in 1877 but maybe Dr would only get a $10 fine if he >didn't and was found out. Then many people went back, say, when >they were grown and had a delayed cert made. The above William's is >not a delayed. > >I cked Brighton Township Cem books and it doesn't show any burial >but in the Brighton Cem book, they have an article from the 1930 >Brighton News. > >It has a list from the 1880 Directory of Business Firms and >Individuals. In the list, >#60-Ben Mosby, Barber > >That is it. > >So would probably be your ggrandfather. > >June is historian for the Brighton area and runs a small Brighton >museum abt one day a week. Might write to her (send LSASE) and see >if she has anything. She also helped with another person put the >Brighton Cem book together. >June Roady Wilderman >P O Box 506 >Brighton IL 62012 > >Where was your grandfather buried? Date of death? Where died? >IL His Library has all the newspapers on microfilm and could look >for an obituary if had date. They will lookup for you $10 (out of >state), can do it yourself if at the Library. > >Obituaries available on microfilm thru interlibrary loan or >requesting a search from the IL State Historical Library > >IL Historical Library newspaper research policy - residents and >non-residents >http://www.state.il.us/hpa/lib/generes.htm#NEWSPAPER SEARCH POLICY > >Location, hours, address and phone number >http://www.state.il.us/hpa/lib/generes.htm#LOCATION AND HOURS > >If you have any IL death cert needs from 1916 to 1945, call the IL >State archives listed on the following url (217) 782-4682. At 50 >cents a copy of the death cert, a bargain. >Check here for years after 1945 (date of death) >http://vitalrec.com/il.html > >In fact, I think you can get the 1916 to 1945 death certs free (up >to 2 per request) at this email address. You need name of person >and the date of death in IL. ><secryan@ccgate.sos.state.il.us> > >I have most other Macoupin Cem books if you just could head me in a >direction. >If he was aged, might have lived with another child in another >county and buried there?? > >I will stop here. You may have all this info. Let me know if I can >further confuse you. > >Good luck. > >Gloria > >At 12:24 PM 5/1/99 -0500, you wrote: >>I am looking for my grandfather. His name was Benjamin Mosby. He >was >>born in Brighton , Il in July 1886. He was the son of Benjamin >Lambert >>and Ellen (Small) Mosby. Any information would be appreciated. >> >> >>Judy >> >> >>==== ILMACOUP Mailing List ==== >>Difference between ILMACOUP-L and ILMACOUP-D: >>ILMACOUP-L mailing list allows you to receive every posting made >to ILMACOUP as a separate email. >>ILMACOUP-D mailing list allows you to receive several postings as >a single large message. >> >> > > County Coordinator & Mail List Manager Jersey County ILGenWeb <http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljersey/index.html> Our KAYLOR/TEDROW and STEWART/ROBISON Home page: <http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/k/a/y/Mary-Ann--Kaylor> KALER Mail List Owner <KALER-L-request@rootsweb.com>

Hello everyone: Anyone interested in the Clark family of Greene County are welcomed to a copy of a scan of my gggrandmother, Jane Clark (1819-1992), daughter of Peter Clark and Elizabeth Campbell. Jane was married to Stephen Harrison Poindexter in 1837 in Greene County and later lived in Pana and Virden. I also have scans of her daughters, Sarah 'Kate' Poindexter (1842-1925) and Flora Alice Dale Poindexter (1854-1882). Sarah married Richard Robinett of Virden, and Flora married Abner Boggs and lived in Terre Haute. Please reply by personal email: cliftongeo@telis.org Gary Clifton California

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FYI, The circuit clerk has a thick file (book) marked "Naturalization" Tom Mark Strohbeck wrote: > Lorraine, > > I think I can probably help you; it was my query. I never really got an > answer, either, but I found an LDS film which I think might be the same > material. At least, I have my fingers crossed. snip

Lorraine, I think I can probably help you; it was my query. I never really got an answer, either, but I found an LDS film which I think might be the same material. At least, I have my fingers crossed. The index to these papers is found at: ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/il/misc/naturalization/natural.txt And the LDS film is as follows: Illinois, Macoupin - Naturalization & Citizenship Clerk of Circuit Court. Naturalization related material 1849-1887. Film No. 1689023 Item 1. Let me know if there is anything else you would like to know. Mark W. Strohbeck strohbmw@wt.net -----Original Message----- From: Lorcalv@aol.com To: ILMACOUP-L@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, May 01, 1999 1:52 PM Subject: [ILMACOUP-L] Lost Naturalization Papers >Sometime ago I recall reading about availability of lost naturalization >papers filed at the Macoupin Co Court House. I believe the query was >directed from a Mark ...... >Unfortunately I did not save the reference or address. Can anyone help me? >TIA >Lorraine -----Original Message----- From: Mark Strohbeck <strohbmw@wt.net> To: ILMACOUP-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, March 30, 1999 11:31 PM Subject: Naturalization Loose Papers >I just noticed that my gg grandfather Robert WATT's name is found among >those listed in naturalization loose papers at: > >ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/il/misc/naturalization/natural.txt > >I am not clear how to pursue this. The instructions say that IRAD will not >search through these loose papers unless I have a date. The date of >naturalization is one of the things I am looking for:-( Kind of a catch 22 >here. > >Does anyone have any suggestions? > >Thanks. > >Mark W. Strohbeck

I am looking for my grandfather. His name was Benjamin Mosby. He was born in Brighton , Il in July 1886. He was the son of Benjamin Lambert and Ellen (Small) Mosby. Any information would be appreciated. Judy

I saved part of the message. Don't know if this will help and don't recall any answer to his question. Pamela Bane Baneshe42@aol.com [ILMACOUP-L] Naturalization Loose Papers I just noticed that my gg grandfather Robert WATT's name is found among those listed in naturalization loose papers at: ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/il/misc/naturalization/natural.txt I am not clear how to pursue this. The instructions say that IRAD will not search through these loose papers unless I have a date. The date of naturalization is one of the things I am looking for:-( Kind of a catch 22 here. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Sometime ago I recall reading about availability of lost naturalization papers filed at the Macoupin Co Court House. I believe the query was directed from a Mark ...... Unfortunately I did not save the reference or address. Can anyone help me? TIA Lorraine

>Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:39:31 -0500 >Old-To: ilgen-l@rootsweb.com >From: Susan Tortorelli <tort@starnetinc.com> >Subject: [ILGEN-L] There might be hope! >To: ILGEN-L@rootsweb.com >"GENEALOGICAL POWER": A MESSAGE FROM DR. JOHN DALY, DIRECTOR OF THE >ILLINOIS STATE ARCHIVES" by Juliana Smith >Ancestry Daily News 29 April, 1999 ><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>> >======================================================= >On Tuesday, April 27, I attended a meeting at the home of Loretto Szucs, >Vice President of Publishing for Ancestry.com. In attendance were thirty >genealogical leaders from Illinois, Wisconsin, and Indiana. The guest of >honor was Dr. John Daly, Director of the Illinois State Archives who spoke >about the article he wrote for the May/June 1999 issue of Ancestry Magazine >titled "Genealogical Power." Dr. Daly reminded family historians that they >are the principal users of public archives in the United States, and as >such should wield their power to shape their own destiny. Below are some >important statistics that Dr. Daly gave in the article in Ancestry >Magazine. > >"Family historians and genealogists have replaced academic researchers as >the principal users of public archives in the United States. The combined >memberships of the American Historical Association and the Organization of >American Historians today are 28,000. A study published in "American >Demographics" in December 1995 cited that 113 million Americans have some >interest in genealogy, and that 19 million have a strong working interest >in the field. An unacknowledged user study of the National Archives and its >Suitland facility for 1991 cited 370,000 "user visits" of which 54% to 80% >were devoted to family history and 16% to 20% to academic studies. The >Newberry Library of Chicago found that 60% of all the reference services it >provides are devoted to genealogy. In 1998 the Illinois State Archives >delivered 840,000 reference activities of which at least 80% related to >family history. If the administrators of public archives in the United >States had to rely upon the use of archives in the United States had to >rely upon the use of archives by academic researchers alone to justify the >existence of archives, they would find it extremely difficult to do so." > >So how do we as family historians take advantage of the power that we hold? >Dr. Daly offered some suggestions, which I will share with you. > >1) "Go on strike; stop going to the archives." Of course he is not serious >here. But ask yourselves what would happen. How will archivists justify a >50-85% drop in use? > >2) "Emphasize the term 'family history' for your work." Unfortunately, the >word "genealogy" may bring to mind a stuffier, "blue-blood" type of image >in many people's minds that is not appealing. In these days where >politicians, newspapers, and tourism promoters spout rhetoric about the >"American family," the term "family history" has a more positive and wider >appeal. In their eyes, "Family History rocks," he says. > >3) "Demand better hours of access to archives." As the chief consumers of >this public service, you deserve to be able to access these facilities at >times that are convenient to you. Many libraries and other public offices >have extended hours to accommodate users. > >4) "Challenge the fees for copies of records. Most of the costs you are >charged for copies of records are designed chiefly to prevent you from >asking for them." Request a valid cost study that justifies those charges. >In his speech, Dr. Daly cited the fact that the fees charged by State of >Illinois facilities for copies is based on legislation from the 1800s when >requested copies were written out by hand. > >5) "Do not waste efforts in support of open records legislation. . . Such >laws are delusory enough to sidetrack or delay more effective methods that >family historians may take to advance their interests." > >6) "Develop a new plan around these problems if the suggestions above do >not succeed." Although digitization is incorrectly looked on by some as a >panacea for all of the problems that archives face, the availability of >some records on the Internet is a great convenience to family historians >when hours of access to facilities and copy costs are inconvenient. > >7) "Take your demands for better access to public records sources above the >heads of archivists themselves - to governors, secretaries of state, and >members of congress." Point out recent articles and television coverage >(ex: Time magazine cover story from April 19, and MSNBC coverage this week >on the Today Show). And as Dr. Daly states in the Ancestry magazine >article, "Point out that family historians form the vast bulk of the >consumers, clients, and market demand that justify and support the entire >enterprise of public archives activity in the United States. Point out >that persons with family history interest represent 113 million American >citizens, 113 million consumers, 113 million letter writers, and 113 >million votes." > >In his presentation, Dr. Daly also expressed that the best way to make our >voices heard is through organizations like genealogical and historical >societies, or through a joint cooperative effort on the part of these >societies. High-ranking public officials are usually swamped with mail >from individuals. Messages from large groups are more likely to get special >attention because of the larger numbers of people that are represented, and >also because they reflect a sense of organization and purpose - in other >words "these people mean business and are serious about this request." > >He also cited the examples of the public records online in Ohio and >Kentucky and suggests that these may be included as examples. (The Ohio >Historical Society has the Ohio Death Index 1913-1937 available online at: >http://www.odh.state.oh.us/records/records-f.htm and the University of >Kentucky has the Kentucky Death Index 1911-1992, Kentucky Marriage Index >1973-1993, and the Kentucky Divorce Index 1973-1993 online at: >http://ukcc.uky.edu/~vitalrec/.) > >Dr. John Daly, the Director of the Illinois State Archives since 1974, has >an MA in English Literature, and an MA and Ph.D. in American History. He >is a fellow of the Society of American Archivists, and has received several >awards and commendations from that organization, including the >Distinguished Service Award in 1982. Dr. Daly has also received awards >from the Association of Records Managers and Administrators, the Federation >of Genealogical Societies, and the Illinois State Genealogical Society. By >writing this article and coming to speak to our group on Tuesday, he has >done a great service to family historians everywhere. It is now up to us >to do the rest. >================= >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >The Illinois USGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgenweb >Illinois Ancestor Registry http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgenweb/queries >Shelby County ILGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilshelb2/shelby.htm >Barry County MOGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/barry.htm > >Do cemetery workers prefer the graveyard shift? > > ------------------ Gloria Frazier Macoupin County ILGenWeb County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/macoupin.htm

Hello! Does anyone have info on the family of Thomas HOGAN age 28 in 1870, born Ohio? He was a day laborer, wife Nancy born in IL and son Charles born IL, age 1. In Carlinville, pg 170 on the 1870 Macouin Co census. I believe that Thomas was in the Civil War from Middleport, Iroquois Co., IL. Also the family of Jonathan JONES age 57 born Maine, a carpenter, father and mother both 'foreign born', in Carlinville on the 1870 Macoupin Co census? His wife was Eliza age 57 born VA, dau Henrietta 13 born Ohio. I am trying to identify these families. They were neighbors on pg 170 of the Carlinville pages. Was Jonathan's wife formerly Eliza SMITH HOGAN, the mother of Thomas HOGAN. Living in Scioto Co, Ohio in 1850?? Living with the JONES family in 1870 was Angeline EDWARDS, widow of Jesse B., and three teen age children, twins Mary and William, and George. I would like to learn much more about the JONES and HOGAN families. Thanks, Joanne in CA at erictem@earthlink.net

The following email addresses from the queries at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/queries/qryindex.htm bounced back to me. If you know these people, please have them send a new email address or if they should want their query removed to let me know. Otherwise, I will remove their address but leave the query up. Thanks. "Rita Bryant" <bryantr@iamerica.net> "George T Cicila" <gcicila@opus.mco.edu> "Becky Hargett" <bhargett@cityscape.com> "Beth Haring" <sbh@NebtWesleyan.edu> "Michael Hopper" <mikeho@ctnet.net> "Sonja ALEXANDER HOFFMAN" <sonjahof@peoplescom.net> "Joan Gillman" <Verchie@PonyExpress.net> "Jeri Haynes" <lehmanj@hern.org> "Nel Hatcher" <njgy52a@prodigy.com> "Marty Gundelfinger" <gahcmain@aol.com> "Terry G Headley" <THead51@aol.com> "Suzanne Hale Howard" <howard83@ix.netcom.com> "Delbert Lamb" <cityofoz@mail.pcis.net> "Elsie S. Lilburn" <lilburn@txdirect> (this one needs .com or .net/etc..) "Warren Lawrence" <wlawrence@talleytech.com> "Ronald L. Kyes" <kyes2@webtv.net> "Richard Lorenz" <rlorenz@aol.com> "Amanda Kaufman" <AR-Kaufman@bgu.edu> "Edna McPherson" <kaloin@midwest.net> "Judy Neese" <neesem@sprintmail.com> "David Neal" <dneal@iname.net> "Russell Manuel" <RussieD@aol.com> "Greg Nelson" <gnelson@aol.com> "Walter Palmer" <wpalmer@email.unc.edu> "Bob Thomas" <bwthomas@mindspring.com> "Betty Sorenson" <bboops@mail.oci-i.com> "Brenda Smith" <nsbis@aurora.alaska.edu> "George Valko" <71160.117@compuserve.com> "Lorman Wehling" <lwehling@delphi.com> "Chris Wright" <dedgenes@heart.net> "Jack Wood" <jwood@juno.com> "Ralph L Stafford" <UncleDuke7@aol.com> "Cindy Vandeveer" <JJJRCindy@aol.com> "Shirley Whiles" <Kealsal@aol.com> "Cathy Wilson" <Lillagumma@aol.com> "Ms. Johnny B. Rash" <Ohrash@aol.com> "John Rhoads" <JRhoads200@aol.com> "Ted Rhoads" <TRhoads577@aol.com> Gloria ------------------ Gloria Frazier Macoupin County ILGenWeb County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/macoupin.htm

Hi, I don't know if you have seen the newspaper obit. for Maude Sanford, but I have notes on her. It comes from the Macoupin County Enquirer, March 6, 1889 page 1. This was on the microfilm of Miscellaneous newspapers. There are only a few obits for various years. Luckily she was one of them. Mary Miss Maude Sanford, died Sunday, March 3, 1889 at 2:00 a.m. Aged 20 y. 2 m. 10 days. Died at Girard. Born Dec. 23, 1868 at Girard. Her mother survives. She came to this town a short time after her birth. Her parents moved from the town of Girard to a farm west of the city then after a few years, back to Girard and stayed until her death. She died of consumption which she had for several months. Funeral was at the Baptist church, Tuesday at 10:00 a.m. Rev. Kitzmiller officiating. Buried Union Chapel cemetery. --------------------------------------- I have a mysterious divorce in my Hays line. Where did it happen? Not Macoupin. Oklahoma? Anyone with access to OK census indexes for Alexander Sanford? 1870, 1880, 1900? Elizabeth "Liz" HAYS b: 23 Dec 1847 in IL d: 02 Jun 1930 Fact 2: 04 Jun 1930 Buried Union Chapel Cem N Otter Twp Macoupin Co IL +Alexander SANFORD m: 14 Jun 1866 in Macoupin Co IL Note: Marriage License Macoupin County IL, #5199, Vol #5. Divorced. (A theory is that they might have gone to Choctaw Nation in McAllister, OK, possibly divorced there and Liz returned to IL or other variation of events. Or, may have been mental depression involved from loss of daughter. Guesssssiiiinnngg) Only child of Alexander and Elizabeth Hays Sanford: Eva Maude "Maude" SANFORD b: 23 Dec 1868 d: 03 Mar 1889 in Macoupin Co IL Note: Death Cert #2665, Vol 1, Page 205, Macoupin County, IL, Typhoid pneumonia and bronchitis, reads Maude Sanford. Fact 2: Buried Union Chapel Cem N Otter Twp Macoupin Co IL This is the fancy stone at Union Chapel in the shape of a chair. *2nd Husband of Elizabeth "Liz" HAYS: +Elah "Ely" JONES b: 08 Mar 1837 in Waverly Morgan Co IL m: Aft. Aug 1892 d: 08 Nov 1900 Fact 2: Buried Jones Cem transferred East Cem Waverly Morgan Co IL Father: Robert Augustus JONES Mother: Letitia (Lutisha) Ann ENGLAND (This was a second marriage for Elah. He was first married to Liz' sister Mary Ann Hays.) Appreciate any information. Thanks. Gloria Frazier West Plains, MO ==== ILMACOUP Mailing List ==== Macoupin County Books that may be of interest: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/m_pubook.htm Macoupin County Books and Cemetery Listings for sale: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/m_bksale.htm

Hello, I am looking for the parents and family of Ida Ella Howard, born Feb 11, 1859, died March 6, 1922. I think she was born in Macoupin Co., IL, not sure. Ida married Perry Leach Oct 25, 1877 in Carlinville, IL, they lived in Clay Co., IL. 1920 Clay Co census has a Joel R. Howard brother-in-law, living with them. 1900 Clay Co census says Ida's father was born in New York her mother was from Virginia. Please any help would be much appreciated! Lynn Pinkstaff Famalogy@aol.com

No, Robert, but you really need some more. I would gladly send you a couple of the 1860 census proofreading sheets. We are all getting tired out here and could use some help. We are down to the last 20%. Just takes time to try to do a good job on abt 45 rows of 16 cols per page. Thanks. gloria At 07:08 AM 4/26/99 -0700, you wrote: >Gloria, I haven't any pending sheets, do I? Robert > > > > > >==== ILMACOUP Mailing List ==== >Macoupin County Books that may be of interest: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/m_pubook.htm >Macoupin County Books and Cemetery Listings for sale: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/m_bksale.htm > > ------------------ Gloria Frazier Macoupin County ILGenWeb County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/macoupin.htm

Gloria, I haven't any pending sheets, do I? Robert

I am working my way thru checking 500 plus addresses for the Macoupin County queries located at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/queries/qryindex.htm Doing it little by little/completing before I go on or I will get confused. I have sent an email to all addressses for researchers A thru F and the following addresses in letters A thru F bounced. If you know the person/doing research with the person, let them know and have them contact me to correct their address. If no correction is received for an address, I will remove the address but leave the name and query up. "Bob Allen" <RAllen2899@aol.com> "Anita Augustine" <anita5@nette.net> "Mary Ann Bolton" <lim@bewellnet.com> "Julie Baliva" <JBaliva@aol.com> "Cristy Barham" <barham3@accessus.net> "Paul Basso" <kealoha@worldnet.att.net> "Don Bosley" <bosley@concentric.net> "Judith Bramlage" <jbramlage@acm.com> "Sherry Buehler" <tristana@pacbell.net> "Richard Cheek" <landrum@ionet.net> "Roger & Myra Christeck" <mojobuji@icss.net> "Curt Cochran" <WA4KSO@aol.com> "Ermyle Cornett" <Topfox@tcd.net> "Marina Rice Cox" <EagleCox@aol.com> "Jo Davis" <newby@bellsouth.net> "Kay Diekemper" <dikempk@accessus.net> "Jane Fornero-Hansen" <rhansen@cyberramp.net> Thanks. Gloria ------------------ Gloria Frazier Macoupin County ILGenWeb County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/macoupin.htm

Thanks, Bill. I didn't have time to get all the info for the CIH virus. I am backing up my data every so often and with having about 77% of the 555 pages of the 1860 census proofreading done, I am keeping those backed up with ever so many pages coming in. If I lost that, they would surely put me in the looney bin. Hard drive can go, data better not. Also need to check diskettes that we have data backed up on. Anyway I will do that, too. Thanks, again. Gloria - ---------------------------- From: "Bill House" <wghouse@cts.com> To: <glofra@townsqr.com> Subject: Fw: [WVHAMPSH-L] CIH VIRUS Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 01:05:06 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Hi Gloria, Re your post on the CIH Virus, am forwarding the following msg from Patti McDonald of the WVHAMPSH-L. You will note she posted the address of www.symantec.com which one can click on, in order to download the file and info, so one can protect their computer from that virus. (I think Symantec bought out Norton). Anyway, I clicked on the site, and downloaded everything in less than 1 minute. Take care! Bill House in San Diego, CA <wghouse@cts.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: Patti McDonald <mcd@access.mountain.net> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 23, 1999 7:14 PM Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] CIH VIRUS > FYI, > I copied this from tonight's (4-23) CNN Website: http://www.cnn.com > regarding the CIH virus. > > > CIH virus may hit on Monday April 23, 1999 Web posted at: 2:43 p.m. EDT > (1843 GMT) by Emily Fitzloff > From... > > > > (IDG) -- A fiercely destructive virus that may already be sitting dormant in > the memory of computer users' systems is expected to become active Monday, > April 26. > The virus, which is called CIH 1.2 and infects Windows 95 and 98 .EXE > files, is not nearly as prevalent or easy to spread as the recent Melissa > virus, but is significantly more destructive to the computers it does infect > because it goes directly to the hardware. > According to Steve Trilling, director of research at the Symantec > Anti-Virus Research Center, the payload of CIH 1.2 "will not only delete > programs from your hard drive, but it can over-write flash BIOS and totally > destroy the motherboard." > Although CIH 1.2 is much more slow moving than the more common macro > viruses, its threat is higher because it typically goes undetected, > according to Sal Viveros, group marketing manager for Network Associates' > Total Virus Defense product line. > CIH was first discovered in summer 1998 in the Far East, according to > Symantec's Trilling, who explained that viruses tend to be most threatening > within the first six months of release. "Because CIH is now in its eighth > month, the threat has been significantly reduced," Trilling said. > CIH, however, does have the strength to destroy the hard drives of infected > computers when they are booted up on April 26. Some observers have > speculated that the payload release date is designed to coincide with the > 13th anniversary of the nuclear meltdown in Chernobyl. > According to Viveros of Network Associates, March's relatively benign > Melissa may have been a blessing in disguise for U.S. computer users. > "Most U.S. users updated their anti-virus solutions because of Melissa, so > they are safe," Viveros said. > All of the leading anti-virus products have been aware of CIH 1.2 since > last summer, so people who have updated their systems since then will have > the current fix for CIH 1.2 and should be safe, according to Viveros, who > also remarked that the virus has been extremely prevalent in Asia. > Computer users who are unsure whether their systems may be carrying the CIH > 1.2 virus, especially those who have not been updating their anti-virus > systems regularly, should contact their anti-virus solution provider. > Symantec is offering a fix called Kill CIH that can be downloaded from > www.symantec.com (link below). Fixes are also available from Sophos, Network > Associates, and others. > One Microsoft representative said the software company's products had no > particular vulnerabilities to the CIH virus, and updated versions o > Windows-based anti-virus software should keep Windows clean of it. > "It can run Windows 95 and Windows 98," the representative said. "The virus > payload cannot run on NT systems. It could infect, but not run on, NT." > To Windows users, Microsoft recommended standard virus protection measures > -- using up-to-date scanning software, employing code-signing safeguards, > and not accepting floppy disks or executables from unknown sources. > Patti McDonald > mcd@access.mountain.net > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvminera/mineral.htm > Co-Coordinator Mineral County USGenWeb Project > Mail to: WVMINERA-L-request@rootsweb.com: Subscribe to Mineral County > Mailing List

Well I thot others could benefit and thot I was sending to list but went to Pat only so she gets two.<g> gf ---------- Obituaries available on microfilm thru interlibrary loan or requesting a search from the IL State Historical Library IL Historical Library newspaper research policy - residents and non-residents http://www.state.il.us/hpa/lib/generes.htm#NEWSPAPER SEARCH POLICY Location, hours, address and phone number http://www.state.il.us/hpa/lib/generes.htm#LOCATION AND HOURS Newspapers available for Macoupin are listed at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/m_paper.htm and listed below. Benld: "Enterprise" - Mar 22, 1940; Dec 19, 1941 to current issues (1988) Brighton: "News" - Incomplete file Aug 15, 1912 - Feb 14, 1946 Bunker Hill: (also at Bunker Hill Public Library) "Union Gazette" -Incomplete file Jan 19, 1866-Jul 13, 1871 (last issue) "Gazette" - Inc. file Jul 20,1871-1904; Jan 4-Feb 8, 1906; Dec 27, 1907; Inc. 1908-Mar 1, 1910, last issue. "Gazette News" - lst issue Mar 8, 1910-1924; May 14, 1928 to current (in 1988) "Macoupin County Advance" - Sep 23, 1892 "News" (semi-weekly) Sep 4, 1897; inc. Jan-Jun 1899 (weekly) Jun 9, 1899-Mar 1, 1907, last issue merged with "Gazette News" "Red and White" - monthly Oct 1927- May 1928 "Union Gazette" - See Gazette News Carlinville: (also at Carlinville Public Library) "Blackburn Gazette" - monthly May 1872 "Conservative" (merged with Macoupin Times) - Mar 24-Jun 2, 1868 "Free Democrat" - Inc. file lst issue Sep 1856-Mar 21, 1867 "Democrat" - Inc. file Mar 28, 1867-Aug 12, 1886; Aug 18, 1887-Aug 7, 1890; Jul 23 (Aug 13, 1891-Mar 1975 to present.) "Enquirer" - daily ed. of Macoupin County Enquirer: Aug 24, 1896-Jul 3, 1918, last issue "Macoupin County Argus" - Jan 16, 1902-Jan 14, Feb 11, 1904; Mar 22, Apr 16, 1906 "Macoupin Statesmen" - Sep 30, Nov 4, 1852; Aug 4, 20-Sep 3, 1853; (Note from Mary McKenzie - "The Macoupin County Statesman is the oldest Macoupin County newpaper on microfilm and very few issues of it are available on microfilm. I don't know if Carlinville Public Library has the Macoupin County Statesman on film. I got it through inter-library loan from the State Historical Library in Springfield. In the publication Illinois Libraries - Newspapers in the Illinois State Historical Library it is mentioned. From this book it appears the name of the paper changed numerous times after that. Macoupin Statesman, Macoupin Spectator, Spectator, Macoupin Statesman, Macoupin Times, Spectator, Macoupin Co. Enquirer. These newspapers were on the film "Miscellaneous Newspapers of Carlinville and Macoupin County. Issues of the oldest Macoupin County Statesman available on microfilm at the State Historical Library are: Sep 30, 1852 Nov 4, 1852 (includes delinquent Tax list) There is an issue with no front page that follows the Nov. 4 issue. It is dated Nov. 8, 1852. (This isn't listed in the newspaper index book from the Historical library.) It has a couple of the obituaries. Aug 4, 1853 (includes delinquent Tax List) Aug 20, 1853 (includes delinquent Tax List) thru Sep 3, 1853 Obituaries you will find in the oldest Macoupin County Statesman newpapers are: Elisabeth Chestnut, Samuel Tennis, Sarah Ann Waters, Wesley Albartus, infant daughter of Wm. A. and Ann Maria (?) of Chesterfield (Surname cut off.); Thomas Henry, Emily P. Burke, Mary Jane Keller, Mary Ann Snow, Samuel B. Tennis.") "Macoupin Spectator" - May , 1855, Jun 28, 1856; Jun 26, 1858; "Spectator" - Jan 14, 1859-Jan 4, Oct 11, 1861; Jan 24, Feb 14, 1862; May 15, 1863; May 12, 1864; May 11, 1856, May 16, 1867, May 13, 1868. "Macoupin Times" - Jun 1868-May 1870 "Macoupin Enquirer" - Inc. file Nov 1871-Dec 11, 1878; (sw) Jan 11-Dec 1879 "Macoupin County Enquirer" - (w)May 7, 1880; Apr 22, 1881; Apr 21, May 19, 1882; Apr 27, 1883; Apr 23, 1884; Apr 22 1885; Apr 21 1886; Inc. file Aug 18 1886 to present. Enquirer, Macoupin Statesmen through the Macoupin County Enquirer were all owned by the same newspaper, just changed names. "Macoupin County Herald" - Inc. file Mar-Dec 1879 "Republican" - (w) Aug 14, 1895; (d) Sep 21, 1895 At 08:22 PM 4/23/99 -0500, you wrote: >Does anyone know if the Macoupin County Enquirer was printed in 1898? >If so would there be anyone who would have access to obituaries? I am >looking for one for my g-grandmother Amanda Elizabeth WADE who died >December 9, 1898. She is buried in Loomis cemetery in Chesterfield. > >Any help would be appreciated. > >Thanks, >Pat ------------------ Gloria Frazier Macoupin County ILGenWeb County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/macoupin.htm

Better check the "smarter people than me" but the resident geek here (the husband) sez it could be on your hard drive now and "go off" Monday. Don't ask me any questions above the 6th grade level. CIH / "Chernobyl" virus. Check out these web sites: http://www.nai.com/ http://www.cert.org/ Gloria ------------------ Gloria Frazier Macoupin County ILGenWeb County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/macoupin.htm