Think Bill helped me more than I could have helped him. Does anyone have a Staunton Catholic Church (or nearby Catholic church) address, where he might write? Hey, if you all are interested in WWI original draft card info, the Jewish Genealogy text file at the url Bill mentioned has got some super info: http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/wwidraft.txt Thanks, Bill, and good luck. gf At 09:52 PM 10/26/99 -0400, you wrote: [snip] >> If it has a church named on it, >> possibly the church might have more of a record. [snip] >No >church is named, but it's signed by "Rev. L P Hurthmans", "a Catholic >Priest". [snip] >I've been to NARA SE in Atlanta twice, and will be going again in late >November. From <http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/wwidraft.txt> I've >learned that NARA SE hold the originals of the WW1 draft registration >records, and will do a lookup for $10. I believe I'll ask them to do >that.

Gloria Frazier wrote: [snip, snip] > Bill, be sure you use the variations when inquiring anywhere about > your ancestor. Gusky/Gayousky/Gajauskas/Gaiauskae Roger, roger. Thank you. > Last things first. <g> I found 3 maillists (if you are not already > on them) for Lithuania described here: > http://members.aol.com/gfsjohnf/gen_mail_country-lit.html#LITHUANIA Thank you. I've subscribed to the first two of these, Lithuania-L and LithuanianGenealogy, for some time. I'll investigate the third. I've also worked with a Lith-English electronic dictionary, the Lith white pages, and the Shtetl-Seeker village locator. All three are great Lith resources. > ------------- > Obits for Gusky deaths 19 Jul 1934 and 30 Dec 1956: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/m_paper.htm#oldest > Probably the Staunton Star Times and/or the Mt Olive Herald Thank you. I'd already downloaded that page, but there were so many newspapers listed, and I didn't know which would be likely to have published the obit in 1934. With your local knowledge, I now have two likely newspaper names. [snip] > No more in the Staunton Memorial Park Cemetery book than what you > have: Bummer. I kinda hoped the cemetery records might have really good stuff. :-) > ---------------- > You said you had the marriage cert. Did you get the application > with it which has the important stuff on it like parents' names, > where they were married, etc? If it has a church named on it, > possibly the church might have more of a record. Yes, I got the application with the important stuff, but the bad news is there appear to be inconsistencies. First, the clerk spelled the groom's name differently than the groom signed it: Clerk = Gayouske vs. Groom = Gayousky. Next, he got the groom's birthplace wrong: Clerk = Austria vs. Groom orally and on census = Lithuania. We think the conversation maybe went like this: "Place of birth?" "Vilna." [Clerk to self: "Vilna? Oh, Vienna... Austria"] My academic resource on the Lithuanian-L list thinks Austria is an error, and so do I. No church is named, but it's signed by "Rev. L P Hurthmans", "a Catholic Priest". The good news is that the groom's father is given as (difficult to read) SIMAY GAYOUSKE, and the mother as (difficult to read) "AGATHA MARTELAIT. Even if somewhat erroneous, these offer a lead. > -------------- > Naturalization - if naturalized before getting to Macoupin Co - he > would have had abt 10yrs from PA to IL, and could have been > naturalized in PA. His 1910 IL census lists him in column 16 as "Pa", or having taken out first papers. Quite possible that he naturalized between then and 1934 while in IL. I've downloaded the form G-639, and intend to send it off for naturalization papers within a day or so. > I chose Philadelphia. > http://www.nara.gov/regional/findaids/phiguide.html I've been to NARA SE in Atlanta twice, and will be going again in late November. From <http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/wwidraft.txt> I've learned that NARA SE hold the originals of the WW1 draft registration records, and will do a lookup for $10. I believe I'll ask them to do that. Thank you, Gloria, for your rapid response and your tips. I've saved your posting to my genealogy folder, and will work my way through it some more. Cheers. -- Bill Gusky DeLand, Florida "Too soon oldt, und too late schmart!"

A Macoupin surname researcher had written about a wk or so ago about his surname not turning up on the Macoupin page search engine. I was thinking just a few more days the engine would reindex the site. I had written to the webmaster for the engine info page and hadn't got a response, yet, but the msg below from Brian Leverich of RootsWeb I guess explains it. So, the engine at the Macoupin site hasn't reindexed probably for 3 or 4 weeks thereabouts. gf ------------------ Msg below from Brian Leverich received this morn..... ----- <MODE EMBARRASSED> Besides brief downs during the day while we recabled, we also had about a 1.5 hour down this evening. The cause of the down was that a friend of RootsWeb (not a staff member) who was in the NOC tripped over a power cable and disconnected it at both ends. We immediately plugged the cable back into the wall, but failed to notice it was also unplugged at the UPS. When the UPS ran out of battery power about 7 hours later, the microwave transceiver that connects us to the Internet failed. We tracked the problem down and fixed it as soon as we could. Sorry about the down time. ### Bad news and good news. The bad news is that we're moving the last of our servers from Anaheim to our new NOC in Bakersfield tomorrow. That means that several of our servers (GenConnect and Searches, among them) will be down for four or five hours. The good news is that this will complete our move out of Anaheim, and should basically fix this rocky period. After the move is complete, we'll be enjoying significantly more bandwidth and better facilities than we had in Anaheim. Cheers, B. </MODE EMBARRASSED> -- Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L Chairman, RootsWeb.com, Inc. http://www.rootsweb.com/ P.O. Box 6798, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 leverich@rootsweb.com

Thank you, Nancy, in another msg for the pat on the back. I can use all I can get.<g> And, now, wonder if anyone can see something that I don't which might help Bill. Think the line below his sig fits a lot of us, anyway, does me. Uhhhhmmm, wonder if anyone has a phone number for the military records in St Louis mentioned down down below............. Bill, be sure you use the variations when inquiring anywhere about your ancestor. Gusky/Gayousky/Gajauskas/Gaiauskae Last things first. <g> I found 3 maillists (if you are not already on them) for Lithuania described here: http://members.aol.com/gfsjohnf/gen_mail_country-lit.html#LITHUANIA ------------- Obits for Gusky deaths 19 Jul 1934 and 30 Dec 1956: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/m_paper.htm#oldest Probably the Staunton Star Times and/or the Mt Olive Herald Three ways to get obits: 1. Some kind soul close to the microfilm will copy them for you. 2. Go here and pay $10 each from the IL State His Library for them to look them up cuz they have all papers available on microfilm and do lookups for a charge. IL Historical Library newspaper research policy - residents and non-residents http://www.state.il.us/hpa/lib/generes.htm#NEWSPAPER SEARCH POLICY Location, hours, address and phone number http://www.state.il.us/hpa/lib/generes.htm#LOCATION AND HOURS 3. Thru the IL State His Library in #2 above, these films are available thru interlibrary loan. Use the phone number above and ask the IL State His Library how and/or inquire at your local library. ------------ No more in the Staunton Memorial Park Cemetery book than what you have: GUSKY, Louise Apr 20, 1892 Dec 30, 1956 GUSKY, Wm. Apr 5, 1886 Jul 19, 1934 Sec. 2 W 1/2 Lot 133 ---------------- You said you had the marriage cert. Did you get the application with it which has the important stuff on it like parents' names, where they were married, etc? If it has a church named on it, possibly the church might have more of a record. -------------- Naturalization - if naturalized before getting to Macoupin Co - he would have had abt 10yrs from PA to IL, and could have been naturalized in PA. I chose Philadelphia. http://www.nara.gov/regional/findaids/phiguide.html Record Group 85 RECORDS OF THE IMMIGRATION AND NATURALIZATION SERVICE Write or call NARA: http://www.nara.gov/regional/philacc.html (If they don't have the records, they should be able to lead you) More links for immigration and naturalization: http://www.CyndisList.com/immigrat.htm More links here for Ships and Passenger Lists: http://www.CyndisList.com/ships.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/m_guide.htm For WWI info - I don't have a phone number but should be able to inquire by writing here: Military Personnel Records Center 9700 Page Boulevard St. Louis, Missouri 63132 For W.W. I, W.W. II, and Korean War service records. -- WWI draft signup records at the courthouse. Yes, maybe those records are in the dome but you might try writing anyway if you haven't already. Think I would try the circuit clerk's office Circuit Clerk Macoupin County Courthouse Carlinville IL 62626 Doesn't hurt to ask. Send LSASE and ask about the naturalization time frame, too. Don't forget the surname variations. My copout. Really don't know that much about post 1900 records. Gloria At 01:23 PM 10/25/99 -0400, you wrote: >Gloria Frazier wrote: > >[snip] > >> I do have the Staunton Memorial Park Cem, Joan, if you don't have >> the ones outta it. > >Gloria, > >My grandfather and grandmother are buried in Staunton's Memorial Park >Cemetery. I have no idea what kind of information is available from >cemetery records or what you may have, but I'm working on >identification of his Lithuanian parents and confirmation of the >original spelling of his surname, which I believe to be Gajauskas. He >is William George Gusky (but Gayousky on his marriage license), b. Apr >5, 1886; m. Apr 19, 1910; d. Jul 19, 1934. Born Lithuania (possibly >around Gaure in the district of Taurage), emigrated alone in 1900 at >age 14 (allegedly to PA to work in coal mines), moved to IL and lived >in White City and Wilsonville until death. Wife buried with him is >Louise Schultz Gusky, born White City. I have quite a bit of data on >her, but am sorely lacking on him. Can't find him in PA, but his >younger brother Sam was in E. Vandergrift, PA the only place we see >him (1910 census, recorded surname Gaiauskae). > >If you have cemetery records or any other ideas, help would be >appreciated. I've gotten their marriage license and his death cert >from Macoupin Cty, Carlinville. Too early in the century for him to >have made Social Security application. Haven't tried for >naturalization papers yet, nor WW1 draft sign-up, since I heard that >Macoupin Cty courthouse rotunda record storage is now unsafe for clerk >access. No obits tried for, since I'm not sure how or where to try >for that time period. > >Thanks in advance. > >-- >Bill Gusky >DeLand, Florida >"Too soon oldt, und too late schmart!" > >

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On the Macoupin Books For Sale page, sez that book is sold out or I would have one, Joan. http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/m_bksale.htm SOLD OUT! Staunton City Cemetery and Old St. Michael's Catholic Cemetery Copies of pertinent pages may be requested from the Macoupin County Genealogical Society at the address above. Anyone lucky to have the above book, please check for Joan. I do have the Staunton Memorial Park Cem, Joan, if you don't have the ones outta it. Gloria At 07:42 PM 10/24/99 -0700, you wrote: >Does anyone know how old the Staunton 'Old' City cemetery >is? >Also could someone who has the book, lookup these people >for me? > >SCHAEDLICH, August & Paul >BOSEN, August & Emma >HAMM, Lena >LOEFFLER, Edward > >Joan >AZ > > >==== ILMACOUP Mailing List ==== >Difference between ILMACOUP-L and ILMACOUP-D: > ILMACOUP-L mailing list allows you to receive every posting made to ILMACOUP as a separate email. > ILMACOUP-D mailing list allows you to receive several postings as a single large message. > >

Does anyone know how old the Staunton 'Old' City cemetery is? Also could someone who has the book, lookup these people for me? SCHAEDLICH, August & Paul BOSEN, August & Emma HAMM, Lena LOEFFLER, Edward Joan AZ

Macoupin Vets Page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/vets.htm gf

Added obits: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/obits/m_obitx.htm COVERDILL (VANSICKLE)(DRENNAN), JONES, KELLEY(PROUTY), PERCY, PROUTY, REYNOLDS (DROKE), STAMPER ------------------- Started the will page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/will/will.htm Only 3 so far - COVERDILL, HOOVER, MEIHE Send em in. ------------------------ Homepage added to Macoupin main page: John Charles Tippet Homepage - PERRINE - CHAPPELL Genealogy http://members.home.net/johntippet/ - ------------------------------ Passed on from Dorothy Falk: In case you're waiting breathlessly for the 1930 census, it will be available on 1 April 2002. Each line item contains 32 questions. Illinois is the third largest state with 169 rolls, with only New York and Pennsylvania having more. http://www.nara.gov/genealogy/1930cen.html#date - ---------------------------- Today, there is no church at Oak Grove Cem, North Palmyra Twp but the church which was there, a picture at Eric Adcock's site: http://www.echoalpha.com/genealogy/cem/index.html --------------------------- I have resurrected the 1997 Veterans page. Same stuff. Nothing new, yet, except a couple of names and, oh, for some reason, it has a US Navy flavor. Anyone want their name added, let me know. Need name, class/rate or rank and service. If you wanna gif/image, gotta go find it and can't be anywhere near the size of the huey. Happy Halloween! ----------------------- Gloria ------------------ Gloria Frazier ILGenWeb Western Regional Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/western.htm Macoupin County ILGenWeb County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/macoupin.htm Rock Island County ILGenWeb County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrockis/index.html FRAZIER-L maillist

I was married in Sacred Heart Church in 1963. Fr. Nicholas Klink was the pastor, but he is now deceased, I believe. Sacred Heart was called the "Slovak Church", and St. Catherine's was called the "Irish" Church, based on the makeup of the congregations. St Catherines was still there in the 50's and 60's when I went to high school, but I believe it is now gone. Jack Cox Dbutton2@aol.com wrote: > Gwen, The present Catholic church in Virden is Sacred Heart this is the one > on Springfield St. and Union Avenue I think that Rev. Father Speril is the > resident Priest. The old Catholic church was called St. Catherine's and it > disbanded sometime in the late 1930s or 1940s. My Mother grew up about a half > block away from Sacred Heart and attended Mass Daily with her siblings (the > Madiar family). When you do find out who has the records, please let me know > as I would love to see what might be there on her family. Dan Dixon > > ==== ILMACOUP Mailing List ==== > Check out Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, 1763–1900: > http://www2.sos.state.il.us/cgi-bin/marriage

Just a reminder to those who maybe haven't visited Morgan County ILGenWeb page lately, all known Cemeteries are now online with the exception of Diamond Grove and Jacksonville East in Jacksonville. This has been a tremendous job for Shirley and myself and one that we are proud of! They are recorded by Township, so one visits this page to go to the Cemetery links: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmorgan/twp-cem.htm Gayle has sent in some 200 plus readings for Calvary Cemetery in Springfield. She plans on reading more, so keep watching. Calvary is at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilsangam/cem-calvary.htm For those of you who might have ancestors in DeWitt Co IL, Earliene has done a great job on recording some of the tombstones with pictures while on vacation this summer. She found many in deplorable condition. They can be found at: http://members.xoom.com/Earliene/pages/cemetery.htm Earliene asks everyone to notify the Comptroller's Office if they know of a cemetery that is neglected. She has a Link on her page. Believe I have one on the Morgan page, too. Mary Ann - ------------------------------------------------------ Mary Ann Kaylor Morgan County ILGenWeb Coordinator & Mail List Owner http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmorgan/morgan.htm Sangamon County ILGenWeb Coordinator & Mail List Owner http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilsangam/sangamon.htm Menard County ILGenWeb Mail List Owner ILMENARD-L@rootsweb.com

Don't know if you ever got a reply to your question or not. Illinois is not a common-law marriage state - don't believe that it ever was. I work for Social Security and one of the issues that we sometimes have to determine is common-law marriages. Very few States recognize common-law. Some have in the past but do not do so currently. I finally remembered to check our manuals today. Hope this helps you. - Judy At 11:20 PM 10/10/1999 -0500, Gloria Frazier wrote: >Anyone know the answer to that subject? > >Where is our resident attorney?? > >Gloria > > >==== ILMACOUP Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from ILMACOUP-L-request@rootsweb.com, send a message to > ILMACOUP-L-request@rootsweb.com >that contains in the body of the message the command > unsubscribe >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. AOL requires a >subject line.

Gwen, The present Catholic church in Virden is Sacred Heart this is the one on Springfield St. and Union Avenue I think that Rev. Father Speril is the resident Priest. The old Catholic church was called St. Catherine's and it disbanded sometime in the late 1930s or 1940s. My Mother grew up about a half block away from Sacred Heart and attended Mass Daily with her siblings (the Madiar family). When you do find out who has the records, please let me know as I would love to see what might be there on her family. Dan Dixon

To DEPPE researcher, Not too long ago someone posted the surname DEPPE.... I found the following obits of 2 DEPPEs in the Staunton Star-Times : George S. Deppe (d:1946) & Louis A Deppe (d:1944), both sons of August Deppe. Please contact me personally if you would like a copy &/or more info on these. Joan Miley jmiley@uswest.com

Ron, It is quite possible that the "L" in L.P. Hess is really an "S". My husband's gg grandfather was John Simpson Wrenchy Hargett; the 1850 KY census index shows John L. W. Hargett. Looking at the census page was the only way to determine the difference between the "L"s & "S"s. Becky

I am wondering if someone can clear up something for me. According to the State Marriage Records, Susanna Doty married an L. P. Hess 20 Sep 1866 Macoupin County. According to information received from a couple Doty researchers, his name was Samuel. Is anyone familiar with this Hess line from Macoupin County that could tell me which is correct? What did/do the initials stand for? Thanks in advance. ciao, Ron

I believe I read somewhere that there was a Catholic Church in Virden. It is still there? if not, who would have the old records? Thanks, Gwen

Does anyone know if marriage licenses in 1837 would have included the names of a bride's parents.....or groom's parents, for that matter? Ann McReynolds, St. Louis

Just to let everyone know, if you see the County Web pages different, it is because the Main New Server at Rootsweb is down and they had to revert back to the old server. As a result the Web pages being displayed are those that were in the old server. Hopefully it won't be down long. So anything new put online is not showing. Have patience, it will be back with all the new stuff. Mary Ann Mary Ann Kaylor Morgan County ILGenWeb Coordinator & Mail List http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmorgan/morgan.htm Sangamon County ILGenWeb Coordinator, Mail List & GenConnect Cluster Boards http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilsangam/sangamon.htm Menard County ILGenWeb Mail List MENARD-L-request@rootsweb.com - ------------------------------------------------ KAYLOR-L-request@rootsweb.com & GenConnect Cluster Boards KALER-L-request@rootsweb.com TEDROW-L-request@rootsweb.com

Mary Ann just reminded me that Charles Bridges volunteered, too, for scanning. I am sorry I left him off the list of volunteers. Thanks, Charles. Gloria ------------------ Gloria Frazier ILGenWeb Western Regional Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/western.htm Macoupin County ILGenWeb County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/macoupin.htm Rock Island County ILGenWeb County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrockis/index.html FRAZIER-L maillist