Help? I think I have this pic I need to get up on the Macoupin site but need the detailed info and who sent it. Zarilda Edwards Mary Jane Edwards Oliver Newton Edwards Rhoda Emeline Edwards Stokes Holler at me if you sent this to me. Thanks If anyone else thinks I should have put something on the Macoupin page and I haven't done it or done it to your satisfaction, PLEASE let me know. I file in safe places and some things are really safe, yet. Sorry. Gloria

Hi New to the LIST I am looking for parents of John Henderson Martin b. 29May1831 Macoupin Co IL. m. Malinda Amburn 10Nov 1853 , Keokuk Co IA my email is ms42son@aol.com Thanks Sondra Sondra Riley Peterson > family names: RILEY, POWELL,DILL, FOWLER, HOWARD, TATE,PITMAN, CONLIN, KEISER, STRADTER, DUNNING, >MCBRIDE > VISIT THE 'CLAN O'REILLY' WEB Lots of IRISH HISTORY to be > found on these pages. http://www.gofast.to/ClanOReilly/

Does anyone have use of the 1880 and 1900 Illinois soundex for EDWARDS or JONES or HOGAN and could do look-ups? Are there still valid look-up volunteers for Macoupin County? If so, could someone please send me the URL? Right now I can't get to LDS to order the soundex and need to know if my families are still in Macoupin County in 1880 and 1900. And if so, where are they living. They were all on the 1870 Carlinville Twp., Macoupin Co census. Thanks for the information it will be appreciated. Joanne in CA

I would like to know if any of you fellow genealogist are tracing the Tavis name. It seems that they disapeared after 1860. Thanks Dorothy

PO Box 43 Livingston, IL 62058 January 8, 2000 Dear Gloria, Thank you so much for your generosity to us after the fire and for notifying my friends on the Internet. The response of donations and words of encouragement was tremendous. I had no idea how supportive the Macoupin List and Macoupin site readers could be. They were all wonderful. We are slowling getting back into the normal routine of living. We are renting a home in Williamson which is a small town (about 250 people) between Livingston and Staunton. It's an older home, but clean and warm. I'm not sure if it is wired strong enough for a computer so don't know when I'll get back to the "Net". I really miss my computer. The insurance company is going to rebuild our home on the same site, which we wanted. They say now it should take about 6 months. We're still going out to the old house whenever we can to search for family momentos. We're still looking for my wedding rings and a few other heirlooms. It's depressing but I really want to find them. Everything from the bedrooms has collapsed into the basement so its hard. I did, however, get a few of my genealogy binders out that were in a bookcase in the living room. They were wet and smokey and the binders themselves were partially melted, but I think some of it can be saved. We put them in storage until I can look over whats there. We had spent the first two and a half weeks in a hotel room so there was no place to dry it and then we moved to this house and it took awhile getting settled. Now things are better, so maybe I can get to my "Stuff". The towns people of Livingston, Staunton, Williamson and New Douglas have donated us just about all the furniture we can use and also things like towels, dishes, clothes, bed clothes and groceries. Everyone is so supportive. Guess I better go for now but I will be back. Thanks again for all your help. I wish I could really into words how much your help has meant. You are a great friend. Love, Mary & Sam Tasha, Stacy & Sam Jr. For new subscribers: Mary McKenzie of the Macoupin County Genealogical Society, is a MCGS board member, organizes the MCGS quarterly, The Searcher, and helps with the MCGS page on the Macoupin site.

Sarah Jane SMITH, the fifth child of Jeremiah Moulton SMITH and Purvania CLARK was born June 4, 1849, married Edward N. DIXON on 20 December 1867 (# 6129) in Macoupin County, Illinois, had 10 children, died July 13, 1926, was buried at the Fishback Cemetery, Macoupin County, Illinois. Also found at the Fishback Cemetery were graves for Benton E. DIXON, seven years, no date, and Edna M. DIXON, twelve years, no date. Edward N. DIXON was born December 10, 1845, in England, died January 8, 1908, and was buried at the Fishback Cemetery, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois. Norman DIXON, the child of Sarah Jane Smith and Ed DIXON was born -?-. Lillian DIXON, the child of Sarah Jane Smith and Ed DIXON was born -?-. Lulu Ellen DIXON, the child of Sarah Jane SMITH and Ed DIXON was born May 24, 1895, married Bert DUMAS. They lived in Ft. Smith, Arkansas at one time. Her daughter was planning to be married November 12, 1922, according to an old letter we found in Grandmother Laura CARRICO WHITE's things. One girl was stabbed to death. Nothing known of the others. The names Jim, Linnie and Bert were found in a letter mom had saved. In a letter from Laura CARRICO WHITE she mentioned her cousin, Ella DUMAS, who lived in Bristow, Oklahoma, in 1922. We have a photo of Lulu Ellen DUMAS as a baby with the birthdate, May 24, 1895, written on the back of it. John D. Sissom - JDSissom@Juno.com member: Wood Co Chap OGS sola fide

I am copying the Macoupin maillist because someone might have an 1883 diary of the area which might mention the weather that winter. Lot of difference in weather from the top (Chicago) to the bottom (Cairo) of IL. But we will lean to Greene Co closer to the lower middle. At Easter, the daffodils will break thru the snow if snow is still on because the earth is warming. You can have snow up into May. I was raised in Macoupin next to Greene Co and the snows could be 12 to 20 inches deep. I now live in southern MO where if an inch or two of snow gets on the roads, schools close down because they aren't prepared with enough equipment or snow routes. Macoupin was prepared. Boy, it had to be pure ice or 2 ft of snow to close down schools there. This year is a mild winter even in Macoupin and Greene Cos. Hardly any snow so far, but some of those heavy snows can come Feb or Mar. Snows don't stay on the ground in Greene for the whole winter. They will melt and maybe another will come. Up more northern like Chicago IL, if snows keep coming, they probably won't melt til spring. About 10 degrees colder in the northern IL area. Hope you can get more help than I have given you here. At 02:59 PM 1/11/00 -0800, you wrote: >Dear Gloria, >I'm doing research for a book on my famlly in Green Co Ill. > >Althought my story deals with a family,I still need to know something >about Illinois since it does relate to what is going on in the book. >Could you tell me something about the weather in Ill? >When does winter start and when do the snows melt?When is spring? >My story is staring when the snows are melting,so I'd like to get it >right on that. >I live out west,so I'm not sure about the weather in Ill. >I did write to a person in green co,who is looking some some info on my >family,but I still need to know about what life is/was like in Ill. >Story takes place 1883. >Any help in this,would be very much appricated. >thanks! >Suzie >

Hi Searchers, I have several relatives who lived and died in Macoupin county. Could one of you knowledgeable researchers tell me if there is a death index available for the period 1880 to 1955? Also, where would one write/go to see obits for specific dates? Are there any obits online? Descendants of Charles Long Generation No. 1 1. CHARLES1 LONG was born Abt. 1836 in England. He married ANNA SMITH, daughter of JEREMIAH SMITH and PURVANIA CLARK. More About CHARLES LONG: Residence: 1880, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois More About ANNA SMITH: Residence: 1880, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois Where Found: 1850, Barren County, Kentucky 1318/1353 Children of CHARLES LONG and ANNA SMITH are: i. JOHN2 LONG. ii. JERRY LONG. More About JERRY LONG: Residence: 22 Nov 1921, Little Rock, Arkansas iii. NETTIE P. LONG, b. 1876, Macoupin County, Illinois; d. 08 Jul 1951, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois?; m. WILLIAM H. WARD. Notes for NETTIE P. LONG: The Chesterfield Cemetery is aka Smith-Kirby Cemetery. More About NETTIE P. LONG: Burial: Jul 1951, Chesterfield Cemetery, Macoupin County, Illinois Residence: 1948, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois More About WILLIAM H. WARD: Burial: 1957, Chesterfield Cemetery, Macoupin County, Illinois iv. PERVANIA A. LONG, b. 1877. v. CHARLES J. LONG, b. 1879. John D. Sissom - JDSissom@Juno.com member: Wood Co Chap OGS sola fide ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Just passing info along. gf *************** Free for ten days, starting today (?), on Ancestry.com >From todays Ancestry Daily News: GEORGIA CHEROKEE LAND LOTTERY, 1838 Of all the states, Georgia has the distinction of being the only one to distribute parcels of land by lottery. This database is a listing of persons allotted land in 1838 from what was considered "Cherokee Land." Located in the northeastern part of the state, over 18,500 parcels were distributed by lottery in that year. Each record of this collection contains the individual's name, residence, and county. Additionally, it provides the district and section number of the parcel of land. For researchers of early Georgian ancestors, this can be an enlightening database. Bibliography: Smith, James F. "The Cherokee Land Lottery, Containing a Numerical List of the Names of the Fortunate Drawers in Said Lottery." New York: - , 1838. To search this database, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4242.htm Please feel free to circulate this newsletter to other genealogy enthusiasts! We hope that you will also credit the Daily News as the source. To subscribe to this newsletter, visit http://www.ancestry.com and type your e-mail address in the box provided, or send an e-mail message to: mailto:ancestry_daily_news@anclist001.ancestry.com with the word 'subscribe' in the subject line.

A few weeks ago there was a message by someone who was researching the above surname. There is a book available through Interlibrary loan, called " Reliques of Rives (Ryves)" by James Rives Childs that has a lot of history about the name, as well as some family outlines and family sketches, portraits and biographies. BTW I am researching Rives/Reeves too: Sarah 'Jane' Elizabeth Rives/Reeves, (1835/38-1904) of VA, GA, d/o Rev. John Edward Rives/Reeves (aka Jackie), of NC, GA and Elizabeth Warren, of GA. SJER m-1 John Henry BURRUSS (1826-1865 CSA); m- James W. Waller; m-3 Frederick N. "Dick" McKinney. John Henry Burruss and SJER was my gr-gr-grandparents. Thank you for your attention. Until next time, M. Davidson domuff@webzone.net

Library sites coming online, I am sure, evolves with volunteers, librarian's knowledge of a website, or just plain getting someone's attention. You know, I want to do everything online - banking, bills, communicating, etc.,,,, just not fast enough for me. I would like to see the courthouse online, too. All Anne would have to do is click a button and say "send me $7 and I will send you the marriage license." Ok, so I am dreamin' again. >Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 19:18:58 -0600 >From: Tom Bunt <vrdrt@ctnet.net> >Reply-To: vrdrt@ctnet.net >Organization: 7th Tenn. Cav. >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD {TLC;RETAIL} (Win95; U) >X-Accept-Language: en >To: Gloria Frazier <glofra@townsqr.com> >Subject: Re: Copies - Was Re: [ILMACOUP-L] Macoupin County IL Research > >The library has two copying machines; one in the genealogy room and one in the main area. >The one in the main area makes color as well as b/w. The color copies are very inexpensive; >$1.80 for a BIG colored copy. I've found this handy for making copies of old (or new) >photographs, plat book pages that are colored, and other colored maps. It makes especially >good copies of old black and white pictures. > >I've tried putting a plug in for a web site for the library; even offered to make digital >pictures or scan pictures. > >Tom > > >Gloria Frazier wrote: > >> Thanks, Rhonda. Will revise my trek instructions. >> >> And, yes, John Buck, might work it up and put it on the county site. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Gloria >> >> >From: Eph0429@aol.com >> >Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:07:57 EST >> >Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP-L] Macoupin County IL Research >> >To: glofra@townsqr.com >> >X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 >> > >> >In a message dated 01/09/2000 11:57:26 PM Central Standard Time, >> >glofra@townsqr.com writes: >> > >> ><< Take the stack of material with post-its to desk for copying >> if you >> >aren't allowed to do the copying yourself. >> >> > >> >Regarding the Carlinville Public Library: I was there last fall. >> They had a >> >copy machine available for public use. It was 10 cents a copy and >> they >> >didn't charge me for mistakes. :) >> > >> > > >

Yes Gloria it is everything you say it is and more. I have been there twice and plan to go back. As I walked up those many steps to enter the Courthouse I tried to feel the emotions my great grandfather felt as a small boy who was entering the courthouse with his many older siblings to face the judge to receive his inheritance that his much beloved grandfather had left them. The grandfather had remembered his grandchildren and granted to them the share that his much loved first child would of received if she had not died when my grandfather was 5 years old. I visited the cemeteries and could feel the sorrow the family members felt as they layed my grandparents to rest. Everywhere I went I felt the presence of their struggles, love and sorrow and knew for sure these people had really lived and were not just names on a census or cemetery reading. Yes we need to revisit sites that instill in us the realism that these people were once just like us and like them we will be someday. I would encourage anyone to go visit Carlinville and live the experience for yourself. Love you Macoupin people. Jo Ann

Thanks, Rhonda. Will revise my trek instructions. And, yes, John Buck, might work it up and put it on the county site. Thanks. Gloria >From: Eph0429@aol.com >Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:07:57 EST >Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP-L] Macoupin County IL Research >To: glofra@townsqr.com >X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 > >In a message dated 01/09/2000 11:57:26 PM Central Standard Time, >glofra@townsqr.com writes: > ><< Take the stack of material with post-its to desk for copying if you >aren't allowed to do the copying yourself. >> > >Regarding the Carlinville Public Library: I was there last fall. They had a >copy machine available for public use. It was 10 cents a copy and they >didn't charge me for mistakes. :) > >~~Rhonda Ashby Coulter >

What other databases the IL State Archives is adding?????? County stuff!!!! http://www.sos.state.il.us/depts/archives/database.html Remember, a nice thank you to Director of the IL State Archives John Daly <jdaly@ccgate.sos.state.il.us> might could help get us some more. Gloria

I saw Carl Lentz' entry in the Macoupin guest book and thought I might resend the research guide to the list as well as to Carl. He states he may be going to Macoupin for research and didn't know if he might be familiar with Carlinville or not. How to subscribe to the Macoupin County ILGenWeb maillist: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/maillist.htm Mon Jan 3 20:15:01 2000 Name: Carl F. Lentz E-mail: clentz@swbell.net From: Rosenberg Texas Comments: We are searching for the Lentz/Lenz/Lance etc. family. My grandfather's family (LENZ) lived in Carlinville from ca 1860 'til ca 1878. We think they are listed as "Lance" in the 1860 census. My aunt "Lina" (probably Carolina) attended a luthern church in Carlinville. She was given a "Kirchen Gefangbuch" by a Carl Loehr at her confirmation in 1873. Grandfather's wife died and he married a Mary Krause either in Carlinville or in Germany. I anticipate visiting Carlinville in the near future to search public and church records for more information. Other Macoupin county names of interest are: ROSS, SEBERS, MARCKO. I believe some of your names are still familiar in the area. If remembering right, a teacher named Lentz, a druggist Loehr and a real estate person Marko (note no c). The first part below is for one day of research in Carlinville and an added part below this part for more than one day. I had written this before and I have been there and done most of it especially the courthouse several times. Good luck and if I can head you somewhere else in Macoupin, holler. I was raised in the village of Nilwood many moons ago.<g> Gloria ------------ One day of research in Carlinville any week day. Have your list of needs with dates ready. Take a notepad and some small post-it types so you can mark pages you want listed in an index or from a ledger itself. Go to the courthouse, block east of the square. Magnificent old building. Walk up the long flight of steps n or s of bldg or go in a bottom floor doorway in what I would call basement and walk up or take elevator to main floor (maybe called second floor - maybe someone can correct me on the elevator buttons). County Clerk's Office on Main Floor. South end hallway, last office on east side. At least meet Anne Easton. If you need a marriage, old birth cert, that is where it is. If they aren't overwhelmed with "right now" work, they will probably make the copy ($7) right on the spot for you. You can search the ledgers yourself (use the post-its to mark the pages). The indexes/ledgers are right behind Anne's desk. Tell them what you are looking for and they will point you to or drag the ledger down for you. Do most of your own research work of the ledgers and try to stay out of the workers way. Then off to the Circuit Clerk's Office north of the County Clerk's office same side hallway. Takes more time than the County Clerk's Office especially if you want copies of any probate (estate) (court case) type records. You search the recorded and index ledgers yourself (ledgers are more complicated than in the county clerk's office to find yourself the first time) and if you find something original you want, oh boy, the boxes are at the ceiling and you might stand out in the hallway and holler for some strong person to help you. That isn't too far off because I haven't known them to get the boxes down for you. You prob won't get copies on the spot (prob have to be mailed but can get costs - $1 a copy) because they are extremely busy with now type court cases and the copies may be many if you find an estate or court squabble by your ancestors. Note: If you have a will you need, it doesn't necessarily have to come out of the boxes where all the original papers are. They have hand copied the old wills in a ledger. You got deeds you need then off to the Recorder's Office - this office takes more time than the County Clerk's office but less than the Ckt Clerk's office. The old deed index ledgers if they haven't been moved are right up front in the office. Post-its to mark or notepad write down what you want from the ledgers. The copies may/prob not available on the spot. Not first, but if you have time, take the self-guided tour (pick up your walkman-leave returnable deposit at the County Clerk's office - better get your research done first) - leave some time for the library (time running out, may have to fast forward the walkman, you need to be out of the courthouse by 1 or 2 pm <g>). If you remember when you are outside of the courthouse, look south across the street and the old jail built at the time of the courthouse, abt 1860's, is still there. We called it the White Rock Hotel when I lived there and it was in use. Head back to the square, southeast corner/south side square, look for "Book Shelf" store. Run in, ask, no time to browse, for the Macoupin books. They usually stock the Cemetery books, History books, old Atlas, Hicken's Civil War Book, and others for Macoupin. I needed about $100 the first time in the book store, well, maybe a little more. You are starvin'. Easiest for me to say, is on the way to the Library below, going off the square north about a block or two look east/right, Jubelt's Bakery and Restaurant would be the quickest. Of course, if you want to take the time, Hardees, McDonalds, Dairy Queen, are in the area. Need Walmart, off the square west, keep on truckin' across RR tracks, then abt an eighth to quarter mile look to right/north. Out by Walmart in a little strip type mall is a good pizza/italian place called Nicks. Off the square north a few blocks watching on west side of road for the library (Mon.-Thu. 2:00 p.m.-8:00 p.m. Fri. - Sat. 9:00 a.m.-5:00 p.m.). In order first, Genealogy room, first run thru the file cabinets for any file with your family surname - use the post-its. Gotta page number of an original census sheet for Macoupin you just gotta have, ck the microfilm holdings for census and other types of resources, oh, area newpapers for obits (hopefully, you have experience from the LDS FHC threading the microfilm reader/copier.). Then the shelves, grab the books you need copies from, use the post-its marking on post-its the page numbers. Ck the time. Take the stack of material with post-its to desk for copying if you aren't allowed to do the copying yourself. Oh, forgot, if you find a lot of stuff to copy you want, better have an extra $100 or so with you for that purpose. If that had been my first time for one day, I could have easily spent that and more for copies, etc, especially with the $7 per cert and $1 each page. Hopefully, you will have a husband or 2nd party with you that you can kinda boss around. Like, "look in that ledger/book for ?" and "make me a copy of this." Take you a month to go thru all the goodies when you return home. There are other places in Carlinville to see and do but for one day of research the above is what I would advise if you have a list of research which needs to be done. Maybe some others can throw some different suggestions out for your day of research in Carlinville. For area touring, visit Carlinville Community Chamber of Commerce site at: http://www.carlinville.com and Town-Square at: http://www.town-square.net/ Gloria ------------- MORE THAN ONE DAY If I had more than one day for research in Carlinville, I would include: I would make sure I covered the first set of places in Carlinville I mentioned previously in an email. If I have another day or two or three, I could slow down a bit and might manage to get back a second time to a place I wanted more out of and get some touring, sightseeing in. I would add going to the Staunton Library, located south out of Carlinville, Rt 4, about 20 miles. Our Genealogical Society's research materials such as surname files, history and cemetery books, quarterlies are in the George and Santina Sawyer Genealogy Room, Staunton Public Library, 306 West Main, Staunton, IL 62088. The hours are: Mon-Thurs: 10 am - 7 pm; Fri & Sat: 10 am - 5 pm. The phone there is 618-635-3852 Our Historical Society Museum -go north off Carlinville square to Hardees at the light, turn west on Nicholas cross RR tracks, immediately across RR go north on Oak St to Breckenridge St, then west on Breckenridge look right/north. His Soc has research materials including many many old school pics, family histories, etc upstairs. The old home being used as the museum is beautiful with many antiques and artifacts. Arrange for the 10-2 hr opening on Wed. Spring and Fall festivals have super homecooked food, crafts, antique farm equip, and tours. If research time needed and trying to attend a festival, you may have to plan 3 or 4 days in Macoupin. Won't be quiet to research during festival time. Cemeteries - if you should want to visit any cemeteries in the county, many of us on the ILMACOUP list could direct you to a specific cem. Libraries in Girard, Virden, Brighton, Bunker Hill, Gillespie, Mt Olive, Benld have some materials for there own areas which may not be in all the other libraries but I think by just looking that Carlinville has maybe the most or Staunton. http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/m_lbrary.htm Gloria ------------------ Gloria Frazier ILGenWeb Western Regional Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/western.htm Macoupin County ILGenWeb County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/macoupin.htm Temporary Rock Island County ILGenWeb County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrockis/index.html FRAZIER-L maillist

here is the site you requested http://www2.sos.state.il.us/cgi-bin/marriage From: rlaaea <rlaaea@peaknet.net> > To: ILMACOUP-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ILMACOUP-L] ARNDT in Macoupin County > Date: Saturday, January 08, 2000 4:13 AM > > Hello List Members, > > Carolyn Bettis suggested I subscribe to the list, and ask for your help. > > I am searching for the parents and siblings of my ggrandfather, William > Arndt. He spent most of his life in Bunker Hill and Staunton, and is > buried in St. Michael's Cemetery. > > On 31 May 1883, Charles Arndt of Staunton requested that the Macoupin > County Court conduct an inquisition as to the insanity of his mother, > Frederika Arndt (age 82). As a result, she was committed to the County > Farm. A County Court record for 29 Dec 1884 shows she was to be > transferred to the Eastern Illinois Hospital at Kankakee. > > Her death certificate from Kankakee County shows she died (age 85) at the > hospital on 26 Apr 1885, and was buried in Kankakee (most likely in the > hospital cemetery) on 28 Apr 1885. > > I suspect that Frederika and Charles are William's mother and brother, and > want to find their birth dates or other info to establish this > relationship. The woman I seek has a birth date of 17 Oct 1802, and name > Lucia Friderica Christine Arndt nee Willert. The son has a birth date of 7 > Feb 1836, and name Johann Carl Friedrich Arndt. > > The 1880 federal census for Macoupin County shows William's mother > ("Lizzie" - age 77) living with him and his family. This same census shows > Charles and Carrie Arndt and children as another household. I suspect that > Charles was the husband of Caroline Arndt nee Langewisch. > > Will appreciate any info about a County Farm register, or marriage record > for Charles. Perhaps someone can point me to the online Marriage Registry > from the Illinois State Archives. > > Thanks for any help you might give. I will be happy to share the > Staunton/Macoupin info I have gathered, if anyone is interested. > > Bob Arndt > Belleville, IL > rlaaea@peaknet.net >

Hello List Members, Carolyn Bettis suggested I subscribe to the list, and ask for your help. I am searching for the parents and siblings of my ggrandfather, William Arndt. He spent most of his life in Bunker Hill and Staunton, and is buried in St. Michael's Cemetery. On 31 May 1883, Charles Arndt of Staunton requested that the Macoupin County Court conduct an inquisition as to the insanity of his mother, Frederika Arndt (age 82). As a result, she was committed to the County Farm. A County Court record for 29 Dec 1884 shows she was to be transferred to the Eastern Illinois Hospital at Kankakee. Her death certificate from Kankakee County shows she died (age 85) at the hospital on 26 Apr 1885, and was buried in Kankakee (most likely in the hospital cemetery) on 28 Apr 1885. I suspect that Frederika and Charles are William's mother and brother, and want to find their birth dates or other info to establish this relationship. The woman I seek has a birth date of 17 Oct 1802, and name Lucia Friderica Christine Arndt nee Willert. The son has a birth date of 7 Feb 1836, and name Johann Carl Friedrich Arndt. The 1880 federal census for Macoupin County shows William's mother ("Lizzie" - age 77) living with him and his family. This same census shows Charles and Carrie Arndt and children as another household. I suspect that Charles was the husband of Caroline Arndt nee Langewisch. Will appreciate any info about a County Farm register, or marriage record for Charles. Perhaps someone can point me to the online Marriage Registry from the Illinois State Archives. Thanks for any help you might give. I will be happy to share the Staunton/Macoupin info I have gathered, if anyone is interested. Bob Arndt Belleville, IL rlaaea@peaknet.net

I recently received this from a friend who was looking around for a cemetery for me. It is in Madison County but thought it could be of some help to those in Macoupin County also. Thats why it is posted to both groups. Hope it helps someone. THE WEST CEMETERY By: Don Hastings Sr. We went in search of the cemetery just before Christmas. It was located near the intersections of Route 4 and route 140, between Hamel and Alhambra, Illinois. From owning land across Silver Creek , from the approximate location, I knew about where it was but not exactly. I am not even sure if the name is correct or not. After getting permission from the adjacent landowners, we had went back toward Silver Creek in search of this old and somewhat forgotten cemetery. We paralleled the creek on the high ground and on a point sticking out over an old slough of the creek, we finally saw a large tombstone sitting back in the trees away from the cultivated field. Appropriately (I thought), I saw some movement in the trees around the tombstones and four or five large bronze backs scurried off toward the creek. Wild turkeys were visiting the cemetery just as they probably did at the time the first people were interred there during and after the Civil War. My son Douglas and I walked into the trees and the first large monument we came to appeared to be of a more modern type. It was marble and stood perhaps 30 inches high and was about a foot wide. The inscription indicated it was for a William Williams who was born on March 7, l844 and died September 17, l907. His wife Susan Caroline Williams was born on October 12, 1830 and died on December 22, l912. The relative newness of the monument suggests that it may have been placed there in more recent years, or at least fairly long after the burial. A separate marker indicated that William Williams has served in Company G of the 12th Kansas Infantry. Being 17 at the start of the Civil War and 21 at the end, we could only assume the marker indicated his service in that conflict. Then we found an old native stone marker for William Hinch who was born on October 9, l794 and died on July 26, l886. Then a second marker also for a William Hinch indicating a date of October 15, l785. This second marker also said Mr. Hinch was the first settler in Alhambra township and had a second date of November 15, 1817. This is somewhat confusing for one would not think there were two brothers or related people with same names and the one was too young in 1794 to have had the second as a son. Then there was a broken monument with some pieces missing that indicated an Anna Hinch, wife of William Hinch, but with no dates on the pieces we found. While the other William Hinch stones carried no middle name there was a separate marker that indicated a William C. Hinch was in Company D of the 59th Illinois Infantry. This is confusing to us as well, for one William would have been 67 years of age and the other would have been 76 at the beginning of the Civil War. We wondered if it might have been a son that was a Civil War veteran or if the service was in a different conflict. The only West we found was a Jesse West who apparently was born on September 22, l848 and died on August 22, 1878. Almost 30 years of age. In the 1880 map of Alhambra township there is a forty acre tract that appears to be close or encompassing this cemetery that simply says it was owned by a West. I wondered if this was a son. The next two tombstones were also of the thinner native stone type for a Martha Hulett born on March 28, l833 and died on February 15, l921. The other was perhaps a son, but was not so indicated. It was for William Hulett who died January 30, 1877 saying he was 13 years of age. That would make his birth in 1863 or 1864. Next was an Emeline Berry, wife of J. C. Berry. She was born May 3, 1810 and died May 10, l863. There was no monument for J. C. Berry, her husband. Then John Harrington who was born on January 8, l811 and died May 21, l880 and Matilda Harrington (who we assume was his wife) born September 21, l814 and died May 30, l898. This has a ring of familiarity to it as I remember hearing an elderly relative in Alhambra talk of a John Harrington many years ago. Lastly a Casper Heuser born February 6, l839 and while it was almost indistinct perhaps died March 31, l839. We assume just a baby and the years were difficult to tell if it was 1837 or 1839. There are other stones strewn about the area, but with no names on them. A few are placed in the ground to possibly indicate a grave but without inscription. The entire cemetery is in bad shape with fallen limbs, weeds and no distinct boundary. I am sure there are other graves that are simply unmarked. Most all the stones are broken or in bad shape except the Williams stone. With the importance of William Hinch as one of the first settlers, it is sad that the cemetery is in such ruins. We understood that a Boy Scout troop from Alhambra once came and cleaned up the area, but nature has taken it back over. It would be nice if some effort could be made to retain the memory of one of our earliest burial spots. I thought that this information might be of interest to any one who was doing genealogy work or any families that might have been related to the people whose stones are still readable. -- Debi Fort Myers, FL df620@gate.net http://farisfamily.homestead.com/Othernamespg4.html - - - - - - - - As a safety precaution - I will not be opening any attachments on my e-mail from 1/1 - 2/1

I recently received this from a friend who was looking around for a cemetery for me. It is in Madison County but thought it could be of some help to those in Macoupin County also. Thats why it is posted to both groups. Hope it helps someone. THE WEST CEMETERY By: Don Hastings Sr. We went in search of the cemetery just before Christmas. It was located near the intersections of Route 4 and route 140, between Hamel and Alhambra, Illinois. From owning land across Silver Creek , from the approximate location, I knew about where it was but not exactly. I am not even sure if the name is correct or not. After getting permission from the adjacent landowners, we had went back toward Silver Creek in search of this old and somewhat forgotten cemetery. We paralleled the creek on the high ground and on a point sticking out over an old slough of the creek, we finally saw a large tombstone sitting back in the trees away from the cultivated field. Appropriately (I thought), I saw some movement in the trees around the tombstones and four or five large bronze backs scurried off toward the creek. Wild turkeys were visiting the cemetery just as they probably did at the time the first people were interred there during and after the Civil War. My son Douglas and I walked into the trees and the first large monument we came to appeared to be of a more modern type. It was marble and stood perhaps 30 inches high and was about a foot wide. The inscription indicated it was for a William Williams who was born on March 7, l844 and died September 17, l907. His wife Susan Caroline Williams was born on October 12, 1830 and died on December 22, l912. The relative newness of the monument suggests that it may have been placed there in more recent years, or at least fairly long after the burial. A separate marker indicated that William Williams has served in Company G of the 12th Kansas Infantry. Being 17 at the start of the Civil War and 21 at the end, we could only assume the marker indicated his service in that conflict. Then we found an old native stone marker for William Hinch who was born on October 9, l794 and died on July 26, l886. Then a second marker also for a William Hinch indicating a date of October 15, l785. This second marker also said Mr. Hinch was the first settler in Alhambra township and had a second date of November 15, 1817. This is somewhat confusing for one would not think there were two brothers or related people with same names and the one was too young in 1794 to have had the second as a son. Then there was a broken monument with some pieces missing that indicated an Anna Hinch, wife of William Hinch, but with no dates on the pieces we found. While the other William Hinch stones carried no middle name there was a separate marker that indicated a William C. Hinch was in Company D of the 59th Illinois Infantry. This is confusing to us as well, for one William would have been 67 years of age and the other would have been 76 at the beginning of the Civil War. We wondered if it might have been a son that was a Civil War veteran or if the service was in a different conflict. The only West we found was a Jesse West who apparently was born on September 22, l848 and died on August 22, 1878. Almost 30 years of age. In the 1880 map of Alhambra township there is a forty acre tract that appears to be close or encompassing this cemetery that simply says it was owned by a West. I wondered if this was a son. The next two tombstones were also of the thinner native stone type for a Martha Hulett born on March 28, l833 and died on February 15, l921. The other was perhaps a son, but was not so indicated. It was for William Hulett who died January 30, 1877 saying he was 13 years of age. That would make his birth in 1863 or 1864. Next was an Emeline Berry, wife of J. C. Berry. She was born May 3, 1810 and died May 10, l863. There was no monument for J. C. Berry, her husband. Then John Harrington who was born on January 8, l811 and died May 21, l880 and Matilda Harrington (who we assume was his wife) born September 21, l814 and died May 30, l898. This has a ring of familiarity to it as I remember hearing an elderly relative in Alhambra talk of a John Harrington many years ago. Lastly a Casper Heuser born February 6, l839 and while it was almost indistinct perhaps died March 31, l839. We assume just a baby and the years were difficult to tell if it was 1837 or 1839. There are other stones strewn about the area, but with no names on them. A few are placed in the ground to possibly indicate a grave but without inscription. The entire cemetery is in bad shape with fallen limbs, weeds and no distinct boundary. I am sure there are other graves that are simply unmarked. Most all the stones are broken or in bad shape except the Williams stone. With the importance of William Hinch as one of the first settlers, it is sad that the cemetery is in such ruins. We understood that a Boy Scout troop from Alhambra once came and cleaned up the area, but nature has taken it back over. It would be nice if some effort could be made to retain the memory of one of our earliest burial spots. I thought that this information might be of interest to any one who was doing genealogy work or any families that might have been related to the people whose stones are still readable. -- Debi Fort Myers, FL df620@gate.net http://farisfamily.homestead.com/Othernamespg4.html - - - - - - - - As a safety precaution - I will not be opening any attachments on my e-mail from 1/1 - 2/1

A new Illinois Ancestor Registry has been started by Marceline Beem. Register your Illinois surnames here: http://tn-3.rootsweb.com/~marce/ilar/index.html Gloria