1. Gremlins 2. Old age. 3. Hard to get proofreaders. 4. All of the above. <g> Thanks. Gloria At 07:29 PM 11/14/2006, you wrote: >Gloria > >The PF Directory is super with good genealogical >information. To you and your volunteers - THANK YOU >FOR YOUR TIME AND SUPPORT OF THIS LIST AND THE COUNTY >WEBSITE! > >I noted that there were two instances in the B's where >two families are grouped together as one big entry. >You may want to correct these by adding a space >between the two farms or put a notation on the cover >page for people to look carefully at the larger >entries to see if two families are grouped together >accidentally. > > >Debbi Geer > > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. >http://new.mail.yahoo.com > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gloria The PF Directory is super with good genealogical information. To you and your volunteers - THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND SUPPORT OF THIS LIST AND THE COUNTY WEBSITE! I noted that there were two instances in the B's where two families are grouped together as one big entry. You may want to correct these by adding a space between the two farms or put a notation on the cover page for people to look carefully at the larger entries to see if two families are grouped together accidentally. Debbi Geer ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com

Mary, Hope you weren't hurt and are doing ok after your accident. I do not know of Marilyn. Pat C. in IN ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:53 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] ILMACOUP Digest, Vol 1, Issue 33 > Is Marilyn Galvan still around? I sent her a notice about my automobile > wreck on Nov 1 and haven't heard a word. I would have thought that she > would have > responded. Is she Okay? Does anyone know? Thanks. Mary Lusk > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is Marilyn Galvan still around? I sent her a notice about my automobile wreck on Nov 1 and haven't heard a word. I would have thought that she would have responded. Is she Okay? Does anyone know? Thanks. Mary Lusk

Ancestry.com is offering free access to their Immigration Collection through November 30th. I think you will need to sign up for a free account. http://landing.ancestry.com/immigration/main/? o_iid=27390&o_lid=27390&o_it=27391 Kim Kolk --------------------------------------- [email protected] Researching DEBEE, HAHNENKAMP, JANCO, KOLK, MAXWELL, PETRINI, POYNTER, WEISS

Thought this was interesting. gf ---------------------------------------------------------------- Restoration planned for home of female Civil War soldier By F.N. D'ALESSIO | Monday, November 13, 2006 The one-room house is small and unprepossessing. With its shuttered windows and the multiple padlocks that used to be inside its door, it's secretive, too _ much like the person who lived in it for some 40 years. Now, to honor one of Illinois' most unusual Civil War veterans, plans are being made to move the 130-year-old Albert Cashier/Jennie Hodgers house back to its original site in the Livingston County village of Saunemin from a storage site in nearby Pontiac. The house's secret was that Cashier and Hodgers were the same person. Jennie Irene Hodgers was born in County Louth, Ireland, on Christmas Day in 1843 and later sailed to New York with her family. But she already was calling herself Albert D.J. Cashier when she turned up in Belvidere, Ill., and enlisted in the 95th Illinois Regiment in 1862. She served as an infantryman through three years and some 40 Civil War battles. Later, it was as Cashier that she lived and worked in Saunemin, voted in elections, collected her Army pension and moved in 1911 to the Illinois Soldiers' and Sailors' Home (now the Illinois Veterans Home) in Quincy. She became Jennie Hodgers again only when she was transferred in 1913 to the former Watertown State Hospital near East Moline and psychiatrists forced her to wear female attire. But while she was confined at Watertown, men from her old unit rallied to her defense, convincing the federal Pension Board to rule in 1914 that she could continue to collect her pension as Pvt. Albert D.J. Cashier. And at the insistence of Saunemin residents, that was the name she was buried under _ clad in her Civil War uniform _ after her death in 1915. Illinois State University historian Sandra Harmon called the local support for Hodgers "remarkably open-minded, considering the attitude of the time that a woman who dressed as a man was threatening _ even evil." Saunemin Mayor Mike Stoecklin said the house will be moved back to Saunemin by the end of the year, though restoring it will take longer. He said a lecture by former Pontiac tourism director Betty Estes convinced him the house should be restored to its original site. Estes personally stepped in to save the house 10 years ago when Saunemin volunteer firefighters wanted to burn the house as a training exercise; she had it dismantled and trucked to Pontiac for safekeeping. "They'll probably have to throw a big sympathy party for me when they take the house back to Saunemin," said Estes, 75. "But at least they now know the value of it. It has a fascinating story." Cashier/Hodgers was hardly the only female soldier to serve in the Civil War. Sharon MacDonald, a retired military historian from Carlock, Ill., said disguised female enlistment probably occurred in all major U.S. conflicts before World War I. Some women tried to join to avoid separation from husbands, brothers and lovers in the ranks; others acted out of patriotism, the desire for adventure, or rebellion against enforced gender roles. Researchers DeAnne Blanton and Lauren M. Cook (Burgess), in their 2002 book, "They Fought Like Demons: Women Soldiers in the American Civil War," estimated that as many as 400 women might have served at times in either the Union or Confederate armies. But Blanton and Cook said the 5-foot-3 Hodgers was unique in that she is the only woman known to have served to the end of the war undetected and to draw a military pension afterward. Hodgers also was one of few known women soldiers who lived as a man before the war and continued to do so after discharge, they said. Her motivation for cross-dressing might have been economic, rather than sexual, they suggest. As an illiterate immigrant girl, Hodgers could have found lawful employment only as a domestic servant. But in male disguise, she could work in factories or as a farmhand. At enlistment, Hodgers gave her occupation as "laborer, farmhand and shepherd." A private in the Union army earned more than an agricultural worker. The enlistment physical would have been no problem, Blanton and Cook said. Army physicians usually only checked recruits for functioning limbs, a working trigger finger and enough teeth to tear open gunpowder cartridges. And once in the ranks, a boyish-looking woman like the 110-pound Hodgers would be aided in her disguise by the baggy uniforms of the day, which soldiers never removed except for extremely infrequent baths. The Civil War "tent cities" also afforded more privacy than modern barracks. Hodgers served with the 95th Illinois until it was mustered out, traveling some 9,600 miles _ most of it by foot. She was briefly captured by a Confederate patrol one night near Vicksburg, but made a daring escape back to Union lines. She was also in the disastrous Red River campaign in Louisiana, the Union victory at Nashville and the capture of Mobile at the end of the war. Despite the rigors of the campaigns, Hodgers was never wounded. In 1869, she moved to Saunemin, where she served as town lamplighter and did odd jobs. She often worked for the Chesbro family, who fed her most of her meals, built the house for her and provided her cemetery plot. Several generations of Saunemin residents watched Hodgers marching in veterans' parades and doing her civic duty by voting at a time when only Wyoming and (briefly) Utah allowed women to do so. Hodgers' true gender wasn't learned until late in 1910, when State Sen. Ira M. Lish accidentally broke her leg when he backed his car over her while she was working in his driveway. Lish swore the doctor who made the discovery to secrecy and used his political influence to obtain a room for Hodgers at the veterans home. If authorities at the Quincy home knew the soldier's secret, they didn't reveal it. But doctors at Watertown State were less discreet. Their unmasking of Hodgers made national headlines. A service of the Associated Press(AP)

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The Macoupin County Genealogical Society will hold their monthly meeting on Monday, November 20, at First United Baptist Church, 604 N. Franklin in Staunton. The meeting starts at 7p.m.. Members and guests are asked to bring old pictures to share with each other. Membership is not required to attend meetings. Refreshments will be served. -- -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

Limited number available. First check arrived gets the newsletter. Be sure to follow instructions for ordering as follows. I have to clean my house again. I have many back issues of the Macoupin County Searcher to offer for sale at $3.50 per issue. This listing is for the April 2004 issue. Make your check payable to: Macoupin County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 95, Staunton, IL 62088. The sale of these newsletters supports the activities and purchase of research material for the society. Please indicate "April 2004 Newsletter" on your envelope and your check. > Thanks - Cindy Leonard, MCGS Treasurer. > April 2004 table of Contents: From Your Editor In Sympathy New Members War News - 1864 Married: Brock-Pocklington; Gaston-Whitney; Taylor-Blue; Morton-Lane; Beeby-Roach A History of Carlinville - 1869 Stedman & Thomas Families in Macoupin Co. Researching Masonic Records Remembering Memorial Day Obituaries - Ezra Barrack, Charles W. Stinnet, Nick Dunn Slavery in Macoupin Co. Macoupin Co. Birth Index (M) Roster of Co. K, 122nd Regiment ILL. VOL. Infantry Attention Ladies! A Salute to the Original Sixty-One New Publication The Illinois State Archives Queries Papa Stinnett's Model T Ford Surname List Membership Form (Information outdated) -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

Limited number available. First check arrived gets the newsletter. Be sure to follow instructions for ordering as follows. I have to clean my house again. I have many back issues of the Macoupin County Searcher to offer for sale at $3.50 per issue. This second listing is for the April 2003 issue. Make your check payable to: Macoupin County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 95, Staunton, IL 62088. The sale of these newsletters supports the activities and purchase of research material for the society. Please indicate "April 2003 Newsletter" on your envelope and your check. Thanks - Cindy Leonard, MCGS Treasurer. > > April 2003 table of Contents: > From Your Editor Donations to Reader/Printer Fund New Members WWI Macoupin Co. Honor Roll Special Venire at Dorchester Civil War Correspondence - James McReynolds Declarations of Intent Filed Outside Macoupin Girard - Births, Marriages, Deahs - 1906 Birth Index Obituaries - Arnoldi, Meyer Macoupin County Temperance Society A Veteran's Daughter Chattell Mortgages Surnam List Memorial Day Membership Dues (Form is outdated) Now Available New on Shelf This 'N' That Queries -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

Limited number available. First check arrived gets the newsletter: I have to clean my house again. I have many back issues of the Macoupin > County Searcher to offer for sale at $3.50 per issue. This second listing is for the January 2003 issue (at this point, I have only 3 copies available). Make your check payable to: Macoupin > County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 95, Staunton, IL 62088. The sale of > these newsletters supports the activities and purchase of research materials > for the society. Please indicate "January 2003 Newsletter" on your envelope > and your check. Thanks - Cindy Leonard, MCGS Treasurer. > > January 2003 table of Contents: >From Your Editor In Sympathy Donations to Reader/Printer Fund New Members Thank You WWI Macoupin Co. Honor Roll Permission to Marry Birth Index Coroner's Inquest Scholars of the Common Schools Civil War Correspondence - James McReynolds Obituaries Married What Were They Doing Staunton (1899) 25 Years Ago and Today Macoupin County Court Report Declaration of Intention: George Fortune, Thomas Richards, William Mees A Naturalization Cancelled: Anton Karkanckas/Karkansky Macoupin Co. Organization - Original Notes This 'N' That New on the Shelf Membership - order form (information is OUTDATED) -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

Dolores wrote: >Tell us who you are looking for...hey you might get your info >free...........right here and now!!! Never can tell!!! >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Betty Ronken" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 6:50 PM >Subject: [ILMACOUP] research > > > > >>Could someone recommend a researcher for me. I am interested in >>Macoupin County and in particular several families I am trying to >>connect to my family. I live in Wisconsin and although I have been to >>Macoupin a number of times over the past 10 years or so, it is more >>diffficult for me to get there now. >> >>I would appreciate any suggestions for further research, >>Thank you, >>Betty Ronken >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > Hello Delores and Jarid, Thank you for your response to my query about research in Macoupin Co. As I mentioned I had been there many times in years past and I did a lot of newspaper research at the library, but at the time I was not looking into these families in particular. Was more interested in finding what my grandparents family was up to!! My grandparents had a tavern in White City many, many years ago. They were Joseph and Albina "Ella" Pechar, grandma being his first wife. Their children were my mother, Mildred, and my uncle Jim. All this family now deceased. The families I would like to find more about are: DITTMEYER, a definite connection--the mother of the two who emigrated (Stanley and Josephine) was a half-sister to grandpa Joe; JOSEPH BRABEC--the one who lived 100 years and seemed to outlive everyone else--worked for grandpa when he first came to White City. The mother to the Dittmayers' father was a Brabec, so I am trying to find if there was a connection. I need a copy of his obituary--the one that was sent to me was cut off at the bottom so I am missing some information. The other is the KRATOCHVIL family. In my Pechar line I have a great grandmother who was a Kratochvil so am trying to find more about that family who emigrated, Frank and Anna. I would like copies of their obituaries and would like to learn where is the best place to try for death certicates. Thank you for any help you can give, Betty

I have to clean my house again. I have many back issues of the Macoupin County Searcher to offer for sale at $3.50 per issue. The first one I am listing is the July 2005 issue. Make your check payable to: Macoupin County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 95, Staunton, IL 62088. The sale of these newsletters supports the activities and purchase of research materials for the society. Please indicate "July 2005 Newsletter" on your envelope and your check. Thanks - Cindy Leonard, MCGS Treasurer. This newsletter's table of Contents: MCGS Twenty-Fifth Anniversary In Sympathy New Members Cookin' From Macoupin My Ancestor - John Brown Capt. John Tatch Bible Records of Robert Young Voyles Miners Revolt Macoupin County Birth Index - M Marriage License Issued - Sept. 18, 1912 Macoupin County Registered Brands Sale Bill - Estate of Peter H. Sharp A History of Carlnville - 1869 Macoupin County Commissioners Report What Were They Doing - Shipman - 1915 Western Mound's Able Bodied Men 21-50 Years Old A Ride Through the State of Macoupin Veterans in Bendl City Cemetery Birth of Frederich (Sterling) Moomaw Venire For Jurors Carroll-Mahoney Family Correspondence William Carroll and Margaret Sherlock Corrections/Additions to 200 Surname List This 'N' That New On The Shelf Now Available MCGS 25th Anniversary Items Still Available Queries Membership & Order Form -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

I am also in Wisconsin, but was born in neighboring Montgomery Co. (Litchfield). For decades now my family and I have been trying to trace the natural parents of my grandfather Charlie Odle. The 1910 census of Christian Co. lists him as Charlie Cronicker. According to family lore there was a family named Cronicker/Granacher living in eastern Macoupin Co. "way back when." Does anyone have any info on a Cronicker/Granacher (variations) family in the area? They may have been related to Bates (grandpa's adoptive mother's family line). Any leads would be greatly appreciated. Michael -- Michael Odle Personal web site http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~quixote/LaMancha.htm Post-Polio Resource Group web site http://pprg.org

As others have stated, tell us who you're looking for and we'll try to help. Jarid Ott-Corresponding Secretary Macoupin County Genealogical Society -------Original Message------- From: Betty Ronken Date: 11/8/2006 5:50:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ILMACOUP] research Could someone recommend a researcher for me. I am interested in Macoupin County and in particular several families I am trying to connect to my family. I live in Wisconsin and although I have been to Macoupin a number of times over the past 10 years or so, it is more diffficult for me to get there now. I would appreciate any suggestions for further research, Thank you, Betty Ronken ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tell us who you are looking for...hey you might get your info free...........right here and now!!! Never can tell!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Ronken" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 6:50 PM Subject: [ILMACOUP] research > Could someone recommend a researcher for me. I am interested in > Macoupin County and in particular several families I am trying to > connect to my family. I live in Wisconsin and although I have been to > Macoupin a number of times over the past 10 years or so, it is more > diffficult for me to get there now. > > I would appreciate any suggestions for further research, > Thank you, > Betty Ronken > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]om with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have quite a few people in my data base in the northwest corner of macoupin county, I may be of help if I know who you are looking for Contact [email protected] Betty Ronken <[email protected]> wrote: Could someone recommend a researcher for me. I am interested in Macoupin County and in particular several families I am trying to connect to my family. I live in Wisconsin and although I have been to Macoupin a number of times over the past 10 years or so, it is more diffficult for me to get there now. I would appreciate any suggestions for further research, Thank you, Betty Ronken ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message /s/ Jim "theOldMan" James W. DUGGER ---Somtimes the "DELETED" key is the Best KEY to USE---- --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail.

Could someone recommend a researcher for me. I am interested in Macoupin County and in particular several families I am trying to connect to my family. I live in Wisconsin and although I have been to Macoupin a number of times over the past 10 years or so, it is more diffficult for me to get there now. I would appreciate any suggestions for further research, Thank you, Betty Ronken

Mary, Thank you so much! That is very helpful and something I didn't know existed. Can't wait to get to Carlinville to go through the lands of my ancestors. Linda Arnold California -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 8:30 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Prairie Farmer's Directory Macoupin County 1919 In the same office that records the deeds. These are rarely, if ever, microfilmed. This is something you have to do either in person or get someone on-site to do for you. First you find your ancestors names in the General Index, aka Grantor/Grantee Indexes. Note their land descriptions. Next go to the Numerical Index that contains that tract of land. Follow the land instead of the personal names. The numerical indexes are invaluable for finding the heirs, migration paths, and married names of daughters. Good Hunting! Mary Douglass At 08:21 PM 11/5/2006 -0500, you wrote: >Mary, >I have not paid too much attention to the recent discussions. I am >wondering where you would find the Numerical Index to lands. >I have found a couple of relatives in the Prairie Farmer's Dir. >Thanks, >Pat >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mary Douglass" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 7:13 PM >Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Prairie Farmer's Directory Macoupin County 1919 > > > > Think deeds are amazing, try searching the Numerical Index to lands and > > follow the legal description of your ancestor's land for 100 years. > > > > At 02:36 PM 11/5/2006 -0500, you wrote: > >> > >>In a message dated 11/5/2006 10:46:39 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > >>[email protected] writes: > >> > >>Whoo hoo!!! No Bell's, but John and Maggie Williamson are listed: > >> > >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/pfd/pfd-w.htm > >> > >>Williamson, John J. (Maggie K. Bell) Ch William, Harry, Tillie, > >>Agnes, Robert, May, Arthur, Frank, Joseph; Gillespie R12 Gillespie > >>Sec5 T160a J. Williamson Est. (1867) > >> > >>I wish it mentioned how much land they had. We'll have to go dig > >>through the land records sometime. Makes me wonder when they moved > >>north to Staunton. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>It would appear that the land John J. Williamson was farming was owned by > >>J. > >>Williamson, no doubt dating from 1867. You might want to search the land > >>records around the 1867 time frame. The land records are great! Amazing > >>things turn up in the deeds. > >> > >>Linda Arnold > >>California > >> > >>------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >>__________ NOD32 1.1853 (20061103) Information __________ > >> > >>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >>http://www.eset.com > > > > Mary Clement Douglass, CG > > Your Kansas research specialist > > www.historical-matters.com > > > > CG and Certified Genealogist are service marks of the Board for > > Certification of Genealogists, > > used under license by those who have passed BCG's rigorous examination > > process. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >__________ NOD32 1.1854 (20061106) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.eset.com Mary Clement Douglass, CG Your Kansas research specialist www.historical-matters.com CG and Certified Genealogist are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by those who have passed BCG's rigorous examination process. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

In the same office you find the deeds. At 10:46 AM 11/6/2006 -0500, you wrote: >[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) wrote: "Think deeds are >amazing, try searching the Numerical Index to lands and follow the legal >description of your ancestor's land for 100 years." > >Please tell us where we can find the Numerical Index to lands so we can >follow the legal description of our ancestor's lands. > >Thank you, > >Linda Arnold >California > > >At 02:36 PM 11/5/2006 -0500, you wrote: > > > >In a message dated 11/5/2006 10:46:39 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > >[email protected] writes: > > > >Whoo hoo!!! No Bell's, but John and Maggie Williamson are listed: > > > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/pfd/pfd-w.htm > > > >Williamson, John J. (Maggie K. Bell) Ch William, Harry, Tillie, > >Agnes, Robert, May, Arthur, Frank, Joseph; Gillespie R12 Gillespie > >Sec5 T160a J. Williamson Est. (1867) > > > >I wish it mentioned how much land they had. We'll have to go dig > >through the land records sometime. Makes me wonder when they moved > >north to Staunton. > > > > > > > > > >It would appear that the land John J. Williamson was farming was owned by >J. > >Williamson, no doubt dating from 1867. You might want to search the land > >records around the 1867 time frame. The land records are great! Amazing > >things turn up in the deeds. > > > >Linda Arnold > >California > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >__________ NOD32 1.1854 (20061106) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.eset.com Mary Clement Douglass, CG Your Kansas research specialist www.historical-matters.com CG and Certified Genealogist are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by those who have passed BCG's rigorous examination process.