Paul, My ARNOLDs are actually my husband's family. They are directly descended of the Jonathan Arnold of Haddam, CT who served in the American Revolution from Long Island, NY, removed to Wayne County, Pennsylvania after the Am. Rev. War. Believe (but, more proof still needed) that Jonathan Arnold of Haddam (to Wayne Co., PA) goes directly back to John Arnold of Hartford (the emigrant). I also have ties (in my own direct line) to the ARNOLDs of Rhode Island ... long line of Benedicts from which the infamous Benedict Arnold hails. Have lots of information on the Rhode Island Arnolds should anyone be interested. The ARNOLDs of Macoupin County seem to be of a Southern line of which I have no knowledge. Linda R.F. Arnold Menifee, California

Hi Linda Are you connecrted to Arnolds in Macoupin Co, ILL Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] New Tombstone Revelations Book > Many thank yous are in order to the Historical Society for updating the > listings. However, this Californian would like to know if the New > Tombstone > Revelations Book available by mail for us who don't live in Illinois? > > Linda R.F. Arnold > Menifee, California > > Researching LAIR, CRAYS, TOSH and Allied Families of Macoupin County. > Especially looking for Joseph DICKSON/DIXSON & family from Scotland to > Macoupin County, early 1840s. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.7/538 - Release Date: 11/18/2006 > >

Many thank yous are in order to the Historical Society for updating the listings. However, this Californian would like to know if the New Tombstone Revelations Book available by mail for us who don't live in Illinois? Linda R.F. Arnold Menifee, California Researching LAIR, CRAYS, TOSH and Allied Families of Macoupin County. Especially looking for Joseph DICKSON/DIXSON & family from Scotland to Macoupin County, early 1840s.

Good work, Darren, Now, does anybody have access to obits, to see if Daphine had any children?? Sharon On 16 Nov 2006 at 22:10, Darren King wrote: > SSDI: > > Name: DAPHNE B KAHL > Age: 66 > Birth: 14 Nov 1922 > Death: Aug 1989 > Last Residence: (not specified) > Last Benefit: (none specified) > SS#: 400-28-4443 > Issued: Kentucky > > California Death Index: > Last Name: Kahl > First Name: Daphne > Middle: Blanche > Birth Date: 11/14/1922 > Mother Maiden: > Father Last: Terrell > Sex: F > Birth Place: Kentucky > Death Place: Los Angeles(19) > Residence: > Death Date: 08/30/1989 > SSN: 400-28-4443 > > Darren > > [email protected] wrote: > > I am usually pretty good at finding people, but this one is a tough > > > > one. I suspect that this is William C. Terrell's family. Way too > > many things being right to completely discount it -- the name > > Terrell, the mother, Eunice, he joined the service in KY, his age, > > the names on the birth records / census match [or nearly match] the > > middle names, etc etc. If so, his mother was b. abt 1904, and may > > have died before SS. > > I suspect that the name Erno is a mis-spelling?? Sure can not find > > > > any, just the one in the 1930 Census? Any ideas? > > I may try to look for the sister, later on ..... > > Sharon > > Kentucky Birth Index, 1911-1999 > > > > about William C Terrell > > Name: William C Terrell > > Date of Birth: 22 Oct 1920 > > County: Anderson > > Mother's name: Eunice Terrell > > Volume Number: 110 > > Certificate Number: 54605 > > Volume Year: 1920 > > xxxxxxx > > Name: Daphne B Terrell > > Date of Birth: 14 Nov 1922 > > County: Anderson > > Mother's name: Eunice Terrell > > Volume Number: 120 > > Certificate Number: 59823 > > Volume Year: 1922 > > xxxxxx > > Based on the above birth records, this appears to be the family in > > 1930. Looks like the kids both went by their middle names. 1930 > > United States Federal Census about Eunice Terrell Name: Eunice > > Terrell Home in 1930: Louisville, Jefferson, Kentucky Age: 25 > > Estimated birth year: abt 1905 Relation to Head of House: Wife > > Spouse's name: Erno R Erno R Terrell 28 Eunice Terrell 25 Clyton > > Terrell 9 Blanche Terrell 7 > > > > > > > > > > On 15 Nov 2006 at 21:58, G Frazier wrote: > > > > > >>FYI > >>I will get this on the Macoupin website soon. > >>gf > >>----------------------------------------------------- > >> > >>Greetings, > >>I am a volunteer working on finding any family or friends of the > >>WWII Submariner, William Clifton TERRELL. He was aboard the Sub. > >>USS WAHOO (SS-238) that had a loss date of Oct 1943. In La Perouse > >>Strait, Northern Japan. The Naval Dept. has now released the sub > >>has been located. Aboard the sub is following data you may not be > >>aware of regarding a Sailor from your county. My intentions are > >>finding family or friends to inform them of the find. I see no > >>mention of him on your memorials or WWII records. > >> > >>I also noticed on your county web site, a Colleen TERRELL had > >>submitted data regarding Black Hawk War and your county. Is there a > >>way I could contact her and see if connection to the above name? > >> > >>I also noted that your listing of WWII did not include the name > >>TERRELL. The following is some data I have collected in trying to > >>find any family. I am volunteering through On Eternal Patrol. USS > >>Bowfin Submarine Museum & Park, in Honolulu, HI. There web-site is: > >>< <http://oneternalpatrol.com>http://oneternalpatrol.com> TERRELL, > >>William Clifton. Quartermaster, Third Class. #634299. From > >>Carlinville, Illinois. Purple Heart. Submarine: USS Wahoo > >>(SS-238) Loss Date: October 11, 1943. In La Perouse Strait, > >>Northern Japan. Sunk by a combination of air attack, shore batteries > >>and depth charging. > >> > >>[IL-WWII Casualty List. Navy, Marines & Coast Guard] TERRELL, > >>William Clifton. Quartermaster 3c. USNR. Mother: Mrs. Eunice > >>TERRELL BULLARD. 503 Orient St., Carlinville, ILL. > >> > >>[National WWII Memorial. < > >><http://www.wwiimemorial.com>http://www.wwiimemorial.com>] William > >>C. TERRELL. Hometown: Carlinville, IL. Status: KIA. > >> > >>[American Battle Monuments Commission. National WWII Memorial. The > >>WWII Honor Roll. < <http://www.abmc.gov>http://www.abmc.gov] > >>William C. TERRELL. Quartermaster, Third Class, U.S. Navy. Service > >>#6342999. > >> USNR. Entered the service from KY. Died 7 Jan 1946. MIA or > >> Buried > >>at Sea. Tablets of the Missing at Honolulu Hawaii Memorial, > >>Honolulu, HI. Awards: Purple Heart. > >> > >>I would appreciate any assistance with the above in trying to locate > >>any family. I also wanted to make aware the fact of the sailor's > >>tie to your county. I need to further see if I can find more data > >>on his mother listed as Mrs. Eunice Terrell Bullard. Thanking you in > >>advance for your assistance. Sharon (Scriven) Iwanick, of La Center, > >>WA. > >> > >>------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > The following section of this message contains a file attachment > > prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. If > > you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant system, you > > should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer. 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SSDI: Name: DAPHNE B KAHL Age: 66 Birth: 14 Nov 1922 Death: Aug 1989 Last Residence: (not specified) Last Benefit: (none specified) SS#: 400-28-4443 Issued: Kentucky California Death Index: Last Name: Kahl First Name: Daphne Middle: Blanche Birth Date: 11/14/1922 Mother Maiden: Father Last: Terrell Sex: F Birth Place: Kentucky Death Place: Los Angeles(19) Residence: Death Date: 08/30/1989 SSN: 400-28-4443 Darren [email protected] wrote: > I am usually pretty good at finding people, but this one is a tough > one. I suspect that this is William C. Terrell's family. Way too many > things being right to completely discount it -- the name Terrell, the > mother, Eunice, he joined the service in KY, his age, the names on > the birth records / census match [or nearly match] the middle > names, etc etc. If so, his mother was b. abt 1904, and may have > died before SS. > I suspect that the name Erno is a mis-spelling?? Sure can not find > any, just the one in the 1930 Census? Any ideas? > I may try to look for the sister, later on ..... > Sharon > Kentucky Birth Index, 1911-1999 > > about William C Terrell > Name: William C Terrell > Date of Birth: 22 Oct 1920 > County: Anderson > Mother's name: Eunice Terrell > Volume Number: 110 > Certificate Number: 54605 > Volume Year: 1920 > xxxxxxx > Name: Daphne B Terrell > Date of Birth: 14 Nov 1922 > County: Anderson > Mother's name: Eunice Terrell > Volume Number: 120 > Certificate Number: 59823 > Volume Year: 1922 > xxxxxx > Based on the above birth records, this appears to be the family > in 1930. Looks like the kids both went by their middle names. > 1930 United States Federal Census > about Eunice Terrell > Name: Eunice Terrell > Home in 1930: Louisville, Jefferson, Kentucky > Age: 25 > Estimated birth year: abt 1905 > Relation to Head of House: Wife > Spouse's name: Erno R > Erno R Terrell 28 > Eunice Terrell 25 > Clyton Terrell 9 > Blanche Terrell 7 > > > > > On 15 Nov 2006 at 21:58, G Frazier wrote: > > >>FYI >>I will get this on the Macoupin website soon. >>gf >>----------------------------------------------------- >> >>Greetings, >>I am a volunteer working on finding any family or friends of the WWII >>Submariner, William Clifton TERRELL. He was aboard the Sub. USS WAHOO >>(SS-238) that had a loss date of Oct 1943. In La Perouse Strait, >>Northern Japan. The Naval Dept. has now released the sub has been >>located. Aboard the sub is following data you may not be aware of >>regarding a Sailor from your county. My intentions are finding family >>or friends to inform them of the find. I see no mention of him on >>your memorials or WWII records. >> >>I also noticed on your county web site, a Colleen TERRELL had >>submitted data regarding Black Hawk War and your county. Is there a >>way I could contact her and see if connection to the above name? >> >>I also noted that your listing of WWII did not include the name >>TERRELL. The following is some data I have collected in trying to >>find any family. I am volunteering through On Eternal Patrol. USS >>Bowfin Submarine Museum & Park, in Honolulu, HI. There web-site is: < >><http://oneternalpatrol.com>http://oneternalpatrol.com> TERRELL, >>William Clifton. Quartermaster, Third Class. #634299. From >>Carlinville, Illinois. Purple Heart. Submarine: USS Wahoo (SS-238) >>Loss Date: October 11, 1943. In La Perouse Strait, Northern Japan. >>Sunk by a combination of air attack, shore batteries and depth >>charging. >> >>[IL-WWII Casualty List. Navy, Marines & Coast Guard] TERRELL, >>William Clifton. Quartermaster 3c. USNR. Mother: Mrs. Eunice >>TERRELL BULLARD. 503 Orient St., Carlinville, ILL. >> >>[National WWII Memorial. < >><http://www.wwiimemorial.com>http://www.wwiimemorial.com>] William C. >>TERRELL. Hometown: Carlinville, IL. Status: KIA. >> >>[American Battle Monuments Commission. National WWII Memorial. The >>WWII Honor Roll. < <http://www.abmc.gov>http://www.abmc.gov] William >>C. TERRELL. Quartermaster, Third Class, U.S. Navy. Service #6342999. >> USNR. Entered the service from KY. Died 7 Jan 1946. MIA or Buried >>at Sea. Tablets of the Missing at Honolulu Hawaii Memorial, Honolulu, >>HI. Awards: Purple Heart. >> >>I would appreciate any assistance with the above in trying to locate >>any family. I also wanted to make aware the fact of the sailor's tie >>to your county. I need to further see if I can find more data on his >>mother listed as Mrs. Eunice Terrell Bullard. Thanking you in advance >>for your assistance. Sharon (Scriven) Iwanick, of La Center, WA. >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > The following section of this message contains a file attachment > prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. > If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant system, > you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer. > If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistance. > > ---- File information ----------- > File: WPM$520C_1.PNG > Date: 16 Nov 2006, 14:16 > Size: 1793 bytes. > Type: Unknown > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My brother is a retired submariner, too. I am forwarding all of these msgs to Sharon, the person who sent the first msg and duh, I didn't include her email address when I copied and pasted. Sharon (Scriven) Iwanick with the address in the From header: "Susie Q" <[email protected]> in case anyone wants to contact Sharon. Thanks, everyone, for your responses. Gloria At 06:41 AM 11/16/2006, you wrote: >Gloria >My husband was a submariner I will forward this message to "Through The >Scope", the quarterly newsletter of the USS Rasher (SS/SSR/AGSS-269) for >circulation. Someone in that group may be able to supply information. I >am his widow, but I still receive the issues regularly. > >Jan Miller >(Richard C. Miller MoMM1/c) >SS 269 > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "G Frazier" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:58 PM >Subject: [ILMACOUP] WWII Submariner - TERRELL > > > > FYI > > I will get this on the Macoupin website soon. > > gf > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > > > Greetings, > > I am a volunteer working on finding any family or friends of the WWII > > Submariner, William Clifton TERRELL. He was aboard the Sub. USS WAHOO > > (SS-238) that had a loss date of Oct 1943. In La Perouse Strait, > > Northern > > Japan. The Naval Dept. has now released the sub has been located. Aboard > > the sub is following data you may not be aware of regarding a Sailor from > > your county. My intentions are finding family or friends to inform them > > of > > the find. I see no mention of him on your memorials or WWII records. > > > > I also noticed on your county web site, a Colleen TERRELL had submitted > > data regarding Black Hawk War and your county. Is there a way I could > > contact her and see if connection to the above name? > > > > I also noted that your listing of WWII did not include the name > > TERRELL. The following is some data I have collected in trying to find > > any > > family. I am volunteering through On Eternal Patrol. USS Bowfin > > Submarine > > Museum & Park, in Honolulu, HI. There web-site is: < > > <http://oneternalpatrol.com>http://oneternalpatrol.com> > > TERRELL, William Clifton. Quartermaster, Third Class. #634299. From > > Carlinville, Illinois. Purple Heart. Submarine: USS Wahoo (SS-238) > > Loss > > Date: October 11, 1943. In La Perouse Strait, Northern Japan. Sunk by a > > combination of air attack, shore batteries and depth charging. > > > > [IL-WWII Casualty List. Navy, Marines & Coast Guard] TERRELL, William > > Clifton. Quartermaster 3c. USNR. Mother: Mrs. Eunice > > TERRELL BULLARD. 503 Orient St., Carlinville, ILL. > > > > [National WWII Memorial. < > > <http://www.wwiimemorial.com>http://www.wwiimemorial.com>] William C. > > TERRELL. Hometown: Carlinville, IL. Status: KIA. > > > > [American Battle Monuments Commission. National WWII Memorial. The WWII > > Honor Roll. < <http://www.abmc.gov>http://www.abmc.gov] William C. > > TERRELL. Quartermaster, Third Class, U.S. Navy. Service > > #6342999. USNR. Entered the service from KY. Died 7 Jan 1946. MIA or > > Buried at Sea. Tablets of the Missing at Honolulu Hawaii Memorial, > > Honolulu, HI. Awards: Purple Heart. > > > > I would appreciate any assistance with the above in trying to locate any > > family. I also wanted to make aware the fact of the sailor's tie to your > > county. I need to further see if I can find more data on his mother > > listed > > as Mrs. Eunice Terrell Bullard. > > Thanking you in advance for your assistance. > > Sharon (Scriven) Iwanick, of La Center, WA. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Would anyone be able to locate a marriage application for: Howard Cicero CLOSE and May S. (Belcher) HARTLEY There were married in June 1936 in Carlinville, IL I am trying to find as much information about May as I can. Primarily, I want to verify the names of her parents. Please and thanks in advance! Kelly Atlanta, GA

I am usually pretty good at finding people, but this one is a tough one. I suspect that this is William C. Terrell's family. Way too many things being right to completely discount it -- the name Terrell, the mother, Eunice, he joined the service in KY, his age, the names on the birth records / census match [or nearly match] the middle names, etc etc. If so, his mother was b. abt 1904, and may have died before SS. I suspect that the name Erno is a mis-spelling?? Sure can not find any, just the one in the 1930 Census? Any ideas? I may try to look for the sister, later on ..... Sharon Kentucky Birth Index, 1911-1999 about William C Terrell Name: William C Terrell Date of Birth: 22 Oct 1920 County: Anderson Mother's name: Eunice Terrell Volume Number: 110 Certificate Number: 54605 Volume Year: 1920 xxxxxxx Name: Daphne B Terrell Date of Birth: 14 Nov 1922 County: Anderson Mother's name: Eunice Terrell Volume Number: 120 Certificate Number: 59823 Volume Year: 1922 xxxxxx Based on the above birth records, this appears to be the family in 1930. Looks like the kids both went by their middle names. 1930 United States Federal Census about Eunice Terrell Name: Eunice Terrell Home in 1930: Louisville, Jefferson, Kentucky Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1905 Relation to Head of House: Wife Spouse's name: Erno R Erno R Terrell 28 Eunice Terrell 25 Clyton Terrell 9 Blanche Terrell 7 On 15 Nov 2006 at 21:58, G Frazier wrote: > FYI > I will get this on the Macoupin website soon. > gf > ----------------------------------------------------- > > Greetings, > I am a volunteer working on finding any family or friends of the WWII > Submariner, William Clifton TERRELL. He was aboard the Sub. USS WAHOO > (SS-238) that had a loss date of Oct 1943. In La Perouse Strait, > Northern Japan. The Naval Dept. has now released the sub has been > located. Aboard the sub is following data you may not be aware of > regarding a Sailor from your county. My intentions are finding family > or friends to inform them of the find. I see no mention of him on > your memorials or WWII records. > > I also noticed on your county web site, a Colleen TERRELL had > submitted data regarding Black Hawk War and your county. Is there a > way I could contact her and see if connection to the above name? > > I also noted that your listing of WWII did not include the name > TERRELL. The following is some data I have collected in trying to > find any family. I am volunteering through On Eternal Patrol. USS > Bowfin Submarine Museum & Park, in Honolulu, HI. There web-site is: < > <http://oneternalpatrol.com>http://oneternalpatrol.com> TERRELL, > William Clifton. Quartermaster, Third Class. #634299. From > Carlinville, Illinois. Purple Heart. Submarine: USS Wahoo (SS-238) > Loss Date: October 11, 1943. In La Perouse Strait, Northern Japan. > Sunk by a combination of air attack, shore batteries and depth > charging. > > [IL-WWII Casualty List. Navy, Marines & Coast Guard] TERRELL, > William Clifton. Quartermaster 3c. USNR. Mother: Mrs. Eunice > TERRELL BULLARD. 503 Orient St., Carlinville, ILL. > > [National WWII Memorial. < > <http://www.wwiimemorial.com>http://www.wwiimemorial.com>] William C. > TERRELL. Hometown: Carlinville, IL. Status: KIA. > > [American Battle Monuments Commission. National WWII Memorial. The > WWII Honor Roll. < <http://www.abmc.gov>http://www.abmc.gov] William > C. TERRELL. Quartermaster, Third Class, U.S. Navy. Service #6342999. > USNR. Entered the service from KY. Died 7 Jan 1946. MIA or Buried > at Sea. Tablets of the Missing at Honolulu Hawaii Memorial, Honolulu, > HI. Awards: Purple Heart. > > I would appreciate any assistance with the above in trying to locate > any family. I also wanted to make aware the fact of the sailor's tie > to your county. I need to further see if I can find more data on his > mother listed as Mrs. Eunice Terrell Bullard. Thanking you in advance > for your assistance. Sharon (Scriven) Iwanick, of La Center, WA. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message The following section of this message contains a file attachment prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant system, you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer. If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistance. ---- File information ----------- File: WPM$520C_1.PNG Date: 16 Nov 2006, 14:16 Size: 1793 bytes. Type: Unknown

The Macoupin County Historical Society has only a few remaining Tombstone Revelations Book 1. Rather than reprint this book, we are putting together smaller updated books. Our first book has the Virden, Pleasant Hill, Girard and Sulphur Springs cemeteries and has been updated 30 years. This book is sprial bound, 337 numbered pages, sell for $30 and is available at the Macoupin County Historical Society or The Book Shelf On The Square in Carlinville.

My Dad (born & raised in Carlinville) had some unusual sayings that he used frequently. When asked, he always said they were Macoupin County-isms. You can decide. ( may need to be censored) Shining like a diamond in a goat's butt. Shivering like a dog crapping razor blades. Running like a striped-tail ape. You talk like a man with a paper tail-end. There are a couple of others that I really didn't think I should include, but I think you get the idea :) Dad always called Macoupin the 'garden of eden'; I have the idea that some of these might actually have come from his time in the Army.

What's the date? I couldn't find it in your message.

Gloria My husband was a submariner I will forward this message to "Through The Scope", the quarterly newsletter of the USS Rasher (SS/SSR/AGSS-269) for circulation. Someone in that group may be able to supply information. I am his widow, but I still receive the issues regularly. Jan Miller (Richard C. Miller MoMM1/c) SS 269 ----- Original Message ----- From: "G Frazier" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:58 PM Subject: [ILMACOUP] WWII Submariner - TERRELL > FYI > I will get this on the Macoupin website soon. > gf > ----------------------------------------------------- > > Greetings, > I am a volunteer working on finding any family or friends of the WWII > Submariner, William Clifton TERRELL. He was aboard the Sub. USS WAHOO > (SS-238) that had a loss date of Oct 1943. In La Perouse Strait, > Northern > Japan. The Naval Dept. has now released the sub has been located. Aboard > the sub is following data you may not be aware of regarding a Sailor from > your county. My intentions are finding family or friends to inform them > of > the find. I see no mention of him on your memorials or WWII records. > > I also noticed on your county web site, a Colleen TERRELL had submitted > data regarding Black Hawk War and your county. Is there a way I could > contact her and see if connection to the above name? > > I also noted that your listing of WWII did not include the name > TERRELL. The following is some data I have collected in trying to find > any > family. I am volunteering through On Eternal Patrol. USS Bowfin > Submarine > Museum & Park, in Honolulu, HI. There web-site is: < > <http://oneternalpatrol.com>http://oneternalpatrol.com> > TERRELL, William Clifton. Quartermaster, Third Class. #634299. From > Carlinville, Illinois. Purple Heart. Submarine: USS Wahoo (SS-238) > Loss > Date: October 11, 1943. In La Perouse Strait, Northern Japan. Sunk by a > combination of air attack, shore batteries and depth charging. > > [IL-WWII Casualty List. Navy, Marines & Coast Guard] TERRELL, William > Clifton. Quartermaster 3c. USNR. Mother: Mrs. Eunice > TERRELL BULLARD. 503 Orient St., Carlinville, ILL. > > [National WWII Memorial. < > <http://www.wwiimemorial.com>http://www.wwiimemorial.com>] William C. > TERRELL. Hometown: Carlinville, IL. Status: KIA. > > [American Battle Monuments Commission. National WWII Memorial. The WWII > Honor Roll. < <http://www.abmc.gov>http://www.abmc.gov] William C. > TERRELL. Quartermaster, Third Class, U.S. Navy. Service > #6342999. USNR. Entered the service from KY. Died 7 Jan 1946. MIA or > Buried at Sea. Tablets of the Missing at Honolulu Hawaii Memorial, > Honolulu, HI. Awards: Purple Heart. > > I would appreciate any assistance with the above in trying to locate any > family. I also wanted to make aware the fact of the sailor's tie to your > county. I need to further see if I can find more data on his mother > listed > as Mrs. Eunice Terrell Bullard. > Thanking you in advance for your assistance. > Sharon (Scriven) Iwanick, of La Center, WA. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

FYI I will get this on the Macoupin website soon. gf ----------------------------------------------------- Greetings, I am a volunteer working on finding any family or friends of the WWII Submariner, William Clifton TERRELL. He was aboard the Sub. USS WAHOO (SS-238) that had a loss date of Oct 1943. In La Perouse Strait, Northern Japan. The Naval Dept. has now released the sub has been located. Aboard the sub is following data you may not be aware of regarding a Sailor from your county. My intentions are finding family or friends to inform them of the find. I see no mention of him on your memorials or WWII records. I also noticed on your county web site, a Colleen TERRELL had submitted data regarding Black Hawk War and your county. Is there a way I could contact her and see if connection to the above name? I also noted that your listing of WWII did not include the name TERRELL. The following is some data I have collected in trying to find any family. I am volunteering through On Eternal Patrol. USS Bowfin Submarine Museum & Park, in Honolulu, HI. There web-site is: < <http://oneternalpatrol.com>http://oneternalpatrol.com> TERRELL, William Clifton. Quartermaster, Third Class. #634299. From Carlinville, Illinois. Purple Heart. Submarine: USS Wahoo (SS-238) Loss Date: October 11, 1943. In La Perouse Strait, Northern Japan. Sunk by a combination of air attack, shore batteries and depth charging. [IL-WWII Casualty List. Navy, Marines & Coast Guard] TERRELL, William Clifton. Quartermaster 3c. USNR. Mother: Mrs. Eunice TERRELL BULLARD. 503 Orient St., Carlinville, ILL. [National WWII Memorial. < <http://www.wwiimemorial.com>http://www.wwiimemorial.com>] William C. TERRELL. Hometown: Carlinville, IL. Status: KIA. [American Battle Monuments Commission. National WWII Memorial. The WWII Honor Roll. < <http://www.abmc.gov>http://www.abmc.gov] William C. TERRELL. Quartermaster, Third Class, U.S. Navy. Service #6342999. USNR. Entered the service from KY. Died 7 Jan 1946. MIA or Buried at Sea. Tablets of the Missing at Honolulu Hawaii Memorial, Honolulu, HI. Awards: Purple Heart. I would appreciate any assistance with the above in trying to locate any family. I also wanted to make aware the fact of the sailor's tie to your county. I need to further see if I can find more data on his mother listed as Mrs. Eunice Terrell Bullard. Thanking you in advance for your assistance. Sharon (Scriven) Iwanick, of La Center, WA.

I remember (and use) a lot of these. What I found interesting was the origin of the expression; for example, ' a lick' with the mop and 'a promise' to come back. If anyone can elaborate on the origins of others, I would enjoy reading. Thanks! Kim Kolk --------------------------------------- [email protected] Researching DEBEE, HAHNENKAMP, JANCO, KOLK, MAXWELL, PETRINI, POYNTER, WEISS On Nov 15, 2006, at 2:54 PM, [email protected] wrote: > This came to me from a friend and I thought the list might like to > see it. > Some of these I had never heard before and some I can hear my > mother and > grandmother saying. Enjoy. > Pat in IN

me too I still use many of em : -) Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Ann Kaylor" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] OLD SAYINGS >I must be getting old..know almost all of those sayings. > > At 12:40 PM 11/15/2006, you wrote: >>This came to me from a friend and I thought the list might like to see it. >>Some of these I had never heard before and some I can hear my mother and >>grandmother saying. Enjoy. >>Pat in IN >> >> >>A Lick And A Promise >> "I'll just give this a lick and a promise," my mother said as she >> quickly >>mopped up a spill on the floor without moving any of the furniture. >> "What is that supposed to mean," I asked as in my young mind I >> envisioned >>someone licking the floor with his or her tongue. >> >> "It means that I'm in a hurry and I'm busy canning tomatoes so I am >> going >>to just give it a lick with the mop and promise to come back and do the >>job >>right later. >> "A lick and a promise" was just one of the many old phrases that I >>remember my mother, grandmother, and others using that they probably heard >>from the generations before them. With the passing of time, many old >>phrases >>become obsolete or even disappear.This is unfortunate because some of them >>are very appropriate and humorous. Here is a list that I came up with that >>I >>remember my parents and grandparents using that we don't hear much >>anymore. >>Perhaps you have some memorable old phrases of your own that you could add >>to the list: >> >>A Bone to Pick (someone who wants to discuss a disagreement) >>An Axe to Grind (Someone who has a hidden motive.This phrase is said to >>have >>originated from Benjamin Franklin who told a story about a devious man who >>asked how a grinding wheel worked. He ended up walking away with his axe >>sharpened free of charge) >>A bad apple spoils the whole barrel (one corrupt person can cause all the >>others to go bad if you don't remove the bad one) >>At sea (lost or not understanding something) >>Bad Egg (Someone who was not a good person) >>Barking at a knot (meaning that your efforts were as useless as a dog >>barking at a knot.) >>Bee in your bonnet (To have an idea that won't let loose) >>Been through the mill (had a rough time of it) >>Between hay and grass (Not a child or an adult) >>Blinky (Between sweet and sour as in milk) >>Calaboose (a jail) >>Cattywampus (Something that sits crooked such as a piece of furniture >>sitting at an angle) >>Dicker (To barter or trade) >>Feather In Your Cap (to accomplish a goal. This came from years ago in >>wartime when warriors might receive a feather they would put in their cap >>for defeating an enemy) >>Hold your horses (Be patient!) >>I reckon (I suppose) >>Jawing (Talking or arguing) >>Kit and caboodle (The whole thing) >>Madder than an old wet hen (really angry) >>Needs taken down a notch or two (like notches in a belt usually a young >>person who thinks too highly of himself and needs a lesson) >>No Spring Chicken (Not young anymore) >>Persnickety (overly particular or snobbish) >>Pert-near (short for pretty near) >>Pretty is as pretty does (your actions are more important than your looks) >>Scalawag (a rascal or unprincipled person) >>Scarce as hen's teeth (something difficult to obtain) >>Skedaddle (Get out of here quickly) >>Sparking (courting) >>Straight >From the Horse's Mouth (privileged information from the one >>concerned) >>Stringing around, gallivanting around, or piddling (Not doing anything of >>value) >>Sunday go to meetin' dress (The best dress you had) >>We wash up real fine (is another goodie....) >>Tie the Knot (to get married) >>Too many irons in the fire (to be involved in too many things) >>Tuckered out (tired and all worn out) >>Under the weather (not feeling well this term came from going below deck >>on >>ships due to sea sickness thus you go below or under the weather) >>Wearing your "best bib and tucker" (Being all dressed up) >>You ain't the only duck in the pond (It's not all about you) >> >>Well, if you hold your horses, I reckon I'll get this whole kit and >>caboodle >>done and sent off to you. Please don't be too persnickety and get a bee in >>your bonnet because I've been pretty tuckered out and at sea lately >>because >>I'm no spring chicken. I haven't been just stringin' around and I know I'm >>not the only duck in the pond, but I do have too many irons in the fire. I >>might just be barking at a knot, but I have tried to give this article >>more >>than just a lick and a promise. >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

This came to me from a friend and I thought the list might like to see it. Some of these I had never heard before and some I can hear my mother and grandmother saying. Enjoy. Pat in IN A Lick And A Promise "I'll just give this a lick and a promise," my mother said as she quickly mopped up a spill on the floor without moving any of the furniture. "What is that supposed to mean," I asked as in my young mind I envisioned someone licking the floor with his or her tongue. "It means that I'm in a hurry and I'm busy canning tomatoes so I am going to just give it a lick with the mop and promise to come back and do the job right later. "A lick and a promise" was just one of the many old phrases that I remember my mother, grandmother, and others using that they probably heard from the generations before them. With the passing of time, many old phrases become obsolete or even disappear.This is unfortunate because some of them are very appropriate and humorous. Here is a list that I came up with that I remember my parents and grandparents using that we don't hear much anymore. Perhaps you have some memorable old phrases of your own that you could add to the list: A Bone to Pick (someone who wants to discuss a disagreement) An Axe to Grind (Someone who has a hidden motive.This phrase is said to have originated from Benjamin Franklin who told a story about a devious man who asked how a grinding wheel worked. He ended up walking away with his axe sharpened free of charge) A bad apple spoils the whole barrel (one corrupt person can cause all the others to go bad if you don't remove the bad one) At sea (lost or not understanding something) Bad Egg (Someone who was not a good person) Barking at a knot (meaning that your efforts were as useless as a dog barking at a knot.) Bee in your bonnet (To have an idea that won't let loose) Been through the mill (had a rough time of it) Between hay and grass (Not a child or an adult) Blinky (Between sweet and sour as in milk) Calaboose (a jail) Cattywampus (Something that sits crooked such as a piece of furniture sitting at an angle) Dicker (To barter or trade) Feather In Your Cap (to accomplish a goal. This came from years ago in wartime when warriors might receive a feather they would put in their cap for defeating an enemy) Hold your horses (Be patient!) I reckon (I suppose) Jawing (Talking or arguing) Kit and caboodle (The whole thing) Madder than an old wet hen (really angry) Needs taken down a notch or two (like notches in a belt usually a young person who thinks too highly of himself and needs a lesson) No Spring Chicken (Not young anymore) Persnickety (overly particular or snobbish) Pert-near (short for pretty near) Pretty is as pretty does (your actions are more important than your looks) Scalawag (a rascal or unprincipled person) Scarce as hen's teeth (something difficult to obtain) Skedaddle (Get out of here quickly) Sparking (courting) Straight >From the Horse's Mouth (privileged information from the one concerned) Stringing around, gallivanting around, or piddling (Not doing anything of value) Sunday go to meetin' dress (The best dress you had) We wash up real fine (is another goodie....) Tie the Knot (to get married) Too many irons in the fire (to be involved in too many things) Tuckered out (tired and all worn out) Under the weather (not feeling well this term came from going below deck on ships due to sea sickness thus you go below or under the weather) Wearing your "best bib and tucker" (Being all dressed up) You ain't the only duck in the pond (It's not all about you) Well, if you hold your horses, I reckon I'll get this whole kit and caboodle done and sent off to you. Please don't be too persnickety and get a bee in your bonnet because I've been pretty tuckered out and at sea lately because I'm no spring chicken. I haven't been just stringin' around and I know I'm not the only duck in the pond, but I do have too many irons in the fire. I might just be barking at a knot, but I have tried to give this article more than just a lick and a promise.

I must be getting old..know almost all of those sayings. At 12:40 PM 11/15/2006, you wrote: >This came to me from a friend and I thought the list might like to see it. >Some of these I had never heard before and some I can hear my mother and >grandmother saying. Enjoy. >Pat in IN > > >A Lick And A Promise > "I'll just give this a lick and a promise," my mother said as she quickly >mopped up a spill on the floor without moving any of the furniture. > "What is that supposed to mean," I asked as in my young mind I envisioned >someone licking the floor with his or her tongue. > > "It means that I'm in a hurry and I'm busy canning tomatoes so I am going >to just give it a lick with the mop and promise to come back and do the job >right later. > "A lick and a promise" was just one of the many old phrases that I >remember my mother, grandmother, and others using that they probably heard >from the generations before them. With the passing of time, many old phrases >become obsolete or even disappear.This is unfortunate because some of them >are very appropriate and humorous. Here is a list that I came up with that I >remember my parents and grandparents using that we don't hear much anymore. >Perhaps you have some memorable old phrases of your own that you could add >to the list: > >A Bone to Pick (someone who wants to discuss a disagreement) >An Axe to Grind (Someone who has a hidden motive.This phrase is said to have >originated from Benjamin Franklin who told a story about a devious man who >asked how a grinding wheel worked. He ended up walking away with his axe >sharpened free of charge) >A bad apple spoils the whole barrel (one corrupt person can cause all the >others to go bad if you don't remove the bad one) >At sea (lost or not understanding something) >Bad Egg (Someone who was not a good person) >Barking at a knot (meaning that your efforts were as useless as a dog >barking at a knot.) >Bee in your bonnet (To have an idea that won't let loose) >Been through the mill (had a rough time of it) >Between hay and grass (Not a child or an adult) >Blinky (Between sweet and sour as in milk) >Calaboose (a jail) >Cattywampus (Something that sits crooked such as a piece of furniture >sitting at an angle) >Dicker (To barter or trade) >Feather In Your Cap (to accomplish a goal. This came from years ago in >wartime when warriors might receive a feather they would put in their cap >for defeating an enemy) >Hold your horses (Be patient!) >I reckon (I suppose) >Jawing (Talking or arguing) >Kit and caboodle (The whole thing) >Madder than an old wet hen (really angry) >Needs taken down a notch or two (like notches in a belt usually a young >person who thinks too highly of himself and needs a lesson) >No Spring Chicken (Not young anymore) >Persnickety (overly particular or snobbish) >Pert-near (short for pretty near) >Pretty is as pretty does (your actions are more important than your looks) >Scalawag (a rascal or unprincipled person) >Scarce as hen's teeth (something difficult to obtain) >Skedaddle (Get out of here quickly) >Sparking (courting) >Straight >From the Horse's Mouth (privileged information from the one >concerned) >Stringing around, gallivanting around, or piddling (Not doing anything of >value) >Sunday go to meetin' dress (The best dress you had) >We wash up real fine (is another goodie....) >Tie the Knot (to get married) >Too many irons in the fire (to be involved in too many things) >Tuckered out (tired and all worn out) >Under the weather (not feeling well this term came from going below deck on >ships due to sea sickness thus you go below or under the weather) >Wearing your "best bib and tucker" (Being all dressed up) >You ain't the only duck in the pond (It's not all about you) > >Well, if you hold your horses, I reckon I'll get this whole kit and caboodle >done and sent off to you. Please don't be too persnickety and get a bee in >your bonnet because I've been pretty tuckered out and at sea lately because >I'm no spring chicken. I haven't been just stringin' around and I know I'm >not the only duck in the pond, but I do have too many irons in the fire. I >might just be barking at a knot, but I have tried to give this article more >than just a lick and a promise. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Great: How about a stitch in time saves 99. IJ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of patcr Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ILMACOUP] OLD SAYINGS This came to me from a friend and I thought the list might like to see it. Some of these I had never heard before and some I can hear my mother and grandmother saying. Enjoy. Pat in IN A Lick And A Promise "I'll just give this a lick and a promise," my mother said as she quickly mopped up a spill on the floor without moving any of the furniture. "What is that supposed to mean," I asked as in my young mind I envisioned someone licking the floor with his or her tongue. "It means that I'm in a hurry and I'm busy canning tomatoes so I am going to just give it a lick with the mop and promise to come back and do the job right later. "A lick and a promise" was just one of the many old phrases that I remember my mother, grandmother, and others using that they probably heard from the generations before them. With the passing of time, many old phrases become obsolete or even disappear.This is unfortunate because some of them are very appropriate and humorous. Here is a list that I came up with that I remember my parents and grandparents using that we don't hear much anymore. Perhaps you have some memorable old phrases of your own that you could add to the list: A Bone to Pick (someone who wants to discuss a disagreement) An Axe to Grind (Someone who has a hidden motive.This phrase is said to have originated from Benjamin Franklin who told a story about a devious man who asked how a grinding wheel worked. He ended up walking away with his axe sharpened free of charge) A bad apple spoils the whole barrel (one corrupt person can cause all the others to go bad if you don't remove the bad one) At sea (lost or not understanding something) Bad Egg (Someone who was not a good person) Barking at a knot (meaning that your efforts were as useless as a dog barking at a knot.) Bee in your bonnet (To have an idea that won't let loose) Been through the mill (had a rough time of it) Between hay and grass (Not a child or an adult) Blinky (Between sweet and sour as in milk) Calaboose (a jail) Cattywampus (Something that sits crooked such as a piece of furniture sitting at an angle) Dicker (To barter or trade) Feather In Your Cap (to accomplish a goal. This came from years ago in wartime when warriors might receive a feather they would put in their cap for defeating an enemy) Hold your horses (Be patient!) I reckon (I suppose) Jawing (Talking or arguing) Kit and caboodle (The whole thing) Madder than an old wet hen (really angry) Needs taken down a notch or two (like notches in a belt usually a young person who thinks too highly of himself and needs a lesson) No Spring Chicken (Not young anymore) Persnickety (overly particular or snobbish) Pert-near (short for pretty near) Pretty is as pretty does (your actions are more important than your looks) Scalawag (a rascal or unprincipled person) Scarce as hen's teeth (something difficult to obtain) Skedaddle (Get out of here quickly) Sparking (courting) Straight >From the Horse's Mouth (privileged information from the one concerned) Stringing around, gallivanting around, or piddling (Not doing anything of value) Sunday go to meetin' dress (The best dress you had) We wash up real fine (is another goodie....) Tie the Knot (to get married) Too many irons in the fire (to be involved in too many things) Tuckered out (tired and all worn out) Under the weather (not feeling well this term came from going below deck on ships due to sea sickness thus you go below or under the weather) Wearing your "best bib and tucker" (Being all dressed up) You ain't the only duck in the pond (It's not all about you) Well, if you hold your horses, I reckon I'll get this whole kit and caboodle done and sent off to you. Please don't be too persnickety and get a bee in your bonnet because I've been pretty tuckered out and at sea lately because I'm no spring chicken. I haven't been just stringin' around and I know I'm not the only duck in the pond, but I do have too many irons in the fire. I might just be barking at a knot, but I have tried to give this article more than just a lick and a promise. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

THIS IS GREAT! Thank you! Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Ann Kaylor" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] OLD SAYINGS >I must be getting old..know almost all of those sayings. > > At 12:40 PM 11/15/2006, you wrote: >>This came to me from a friend and I thought the list might like to see it. >>Some of these I had never heard before and some I can hear my mother and >>grandmother saying. Enjoy. >>Pat in IN >> >> >>A Lick And A Promise >> "I'll just give this a lick and a promise," my mother said as she >> quickly >>mopped up a spill on the floor without moving any of the furniture. >> "What is that supposed to mean," I asked as in my young mind I >> envisioned >>someone licking the floor with his or her tongue. >> >> "It means that I'm in a hurry and I'm busy canning tomatoes so I am >> going >>to just give it a lick with the mop and promise to come back and do the >>job >>right later. >> "A lick and a promise" was just one of the many old phrases that I >>remember my mother, grandmother, and others using that they probably heard >>from the generations before them. With the passing of time, many old >>phrases >>become obsolete or even disappear.This is unfortunate because some of them >>are very appropriate and humorous. Here is a list that I came up with that >>I >>remember my parents and grandparents using that we don't hear much >>anymore. >>Perhaps you have some memorable old phrases of your own that you could add >>to the list: >> >>A Bone to Pick (someone who wants to discuss a disagreement) >>An Axe to Grind (Someone who has a hidden motive.This phrase is said to >>have >>originated from Benjamin Franklin who told a story about a devious man who >>asked how a grinding wheel worked. He ended up walking away with his axe >>sharpened free of charge) >>A bad apple spoils the whole barrel (one corrupt person can cause all the >>others to go bad if you don't remove the bad one) >>At sea (lost or not understanding something) >>Bad Egg (Someone who was not a good person) >>Barking at a knot (meaning that your efforts were as useless as a dog >>barking at a knot.) >>Bee in your bonnet (To have an idea that won't let loose) >>Been through the mill (had a rough time of it) >>Between hay and grass (Not a child or an adult) >>Blinky (Between sweet and sour as in milk) >>Calaboose (a jail) >>Cattywampus (Something that sits crooked such as a piece of furniture >>sitting at an angle) >>Dicker (To barter or trade) >>Feather In Your Cap (to accomplish a goal. This came from years ago in >>wartime when warriors might receive a feather they would put in their cap >>for defeating an enemy) >>Hold your horses (Be patient!) >>I reckon (I suppose) >>Jawing (Talking or arguing) >>Kit and caboodle (The whole thing) >>Madder than an old wet hen (really angry) >>Needs taken down a notch or two (like notches in a belt usually a young >>person who thinks too highly of himself and needs a lesson) >>No Spring Chicken (Not young anymore) >>Persnickety (overly particular or snobbish) >>Pert-near (short for pretty near) >>Pretty is as pretty does (your actions are more important than your looks) >>Scalawag (a rascal or unprincipled person) >>Scarce as hen's teeth (something difficult to obtain) >>Skedaddle (Get out of here quickly) >>Sparking (courting) >>Straight >From the Horse's Mouth (privileged information from the one >>concerned) >>Stringing around, gallivanting around, or piddling (Not doing anything of >>value) >>Sunday go to meetin' dress (The best dress you had) >>We wash up real fine (is another goodie....) >>Tie the Knot (to get married) >>Too many irons in the fire (to be involved in too many things) >>Tuckered out (tired and all worn out) >>Under the weather (not feeling well this term came from going below deck >>on >>ships due to sea sickness thus you go below or under the weather) >>Wearing your "best bib and tucker" (Being all dressed up) >>You ain't the only duck in the pond (It's not all about you) >> >>Well, if you hold your horses, I reckon I'll get this whole kit and >>caboodle >>done and sent off to you. Please don't be too persnickety and get a bee in >>your bonnet because I've been pretty tuckered out and at sea lately >>because >>I'm no spring chicken. I haven't been just stringin' around and I know I'm >>not the only duck in the pond, but I do have too many irons in the fire. I >>might just be barking at a knot, but I have tried to give this article >>more >>than just a lick and a promise. >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Before anyone starts reseaching for Mark, ask him what he might already have because I shipped him a bunch of stuff tonite. If anyone is researching this family, contact him. I found Anna's burial in Behme Cem from TR III but can't find the rest of his mentions. I did find Gerret in the 1880. ILStateArchives databases for him to go thru, too. He mentions taxes, Linda Kmiecik. I referred the list and your name to him. Oh, that Carol email address, I can't remember. If Carol is on this list, let me know a new email address. Long time ago and 4000 plus files, I don't know. http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/natural/natural.htm#ship at the bottom of that screen, she is mentioned. Thanks. See Mark's query below. Gloria -------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ross, Mark S" <[email protected]> Subject: EMAIL ADDRESS Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:52:30 -0500 Hello! I went thru your website and saw an email address to a "Carol" listed as GFS [email protected] I wanted to ask her opinions on some matters about Germany but the email listed did not go thru? Is there a more current email address for her? Also, I had some early ancestors living in Macoupin Illinois. His name was John Ross, with wife Mary Ann Fickes and at least one son ...John Casper Ross. John Casper Ross has ties to Macoupin at least thru the civil war and lists it where he enlisted, Illinois 32, army. I know also he married a woman by the first name of "Anna" there and she is buried in some cemetery 3 miles near or down from an old school house. Would you, could you, have any tax or residence rolls for Macoupin for 1863 thru 1865 for John Ross or John Casper Ross and his wife Sara. Or if there is an independent resesearcher I could hire to do some research for me? I would like to be able to locate the family when they were there, a marriage license for John Casper Ross and Sara, and the cemetery she is buried in, and if there was a Gerret Ross or Casper Ross living nearby at the same time. Thank you for your time, You have a wonderful website by the way! Mark Ross Email: [email protected] Cell: 913-709-5979