Try www.vitalrec.com and click on the Missouri link. It should have current addresses for all the state's county offices there. Pat Hansen -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 11:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ILMACOUP] Locate marriage license Who would I contact in order to get a marriage license from across the river in MO. (St Louis county) or near by counties for my grandparents 1896. Would appreciate phone # and address. Contact Joyce at [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Thank you <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Who would I contact in order to get a marriage license from across the river in MO. (St Louis county) or near by counties for my grandparents 1896. Would appreciate phone # and address. Contact Joyce at [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Thank you <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Shaving cream leaves behind an oily residue that attracts damaging bacteria and will eventually flake off layers of the stone. The only thing that should be used on a tombstone is plain water. The Association of Gravestone Studies has more on this subject. http://www.gravestonestudies.org/ Mary Douglass, CG [email protected] wrote: > Our funeral director told us to use shaving cream and rinse with water to > clean headstones. It worked really well on my parent's stones. > > Darlene Almer > Longview, WA > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ NOD32 2094 (20070304) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > > -- Mary Douglass, CG Your Kansas research specialist URL: www.historical-matters.com
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Over the last couple years I have noticed the following MO sites, listed in obits for the Girard-Virden-Springfield areas: Palmyra, MO St.Charles, MO Troy, MO I've probably missed some. Linda Kmiecik
Two in my hubbies family went to MO to marry in 1940. One in Hannibal, Marion Co. MO (western Illinois just across the River) and the other in Bowling Green, Pike Co. Mo.(across the River in SW Illinois( Calhoun Co IL) No waiting. At 07:23 AM 3/4/2007, you wrote: >Hello Everyone, > > I am new to this list. > > I had an Aunt that lived in the Knox and Warren County, Illinois > area. When she got married they went to Hannibal, Missouri. She > died before I found this out so I never got a chance to ask her why > they did that. > > Have a good day. > Lisa > >[email protected] wrote: > Maybe south of St Louis > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "dogtraks" >To: >Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 11:52 AM >Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] [ILMacoupin] marriages across the river? > > > >I just ran across this old email and wonder if you have an A.C. Scroggins > >in > > your line. I have more names but don't recall them off hand. He came > > from > > Arkansas and I know he lived in Stigler Oklahoma. He was an Uncle of > > mine. > > Tom Hughes > > [email protected] > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John M. Scroggins" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 6:45 PM > > Subject: Re: [ILMacoupin] marriages across the river? > > > > > >> At 05:10 PM 8/7/2006, you wrote: > >>>Does anyone on this list know if/how readily Macoupin residents might > >>>'run > >>>off' to marry Missouri? > >>>If so, is St. Louis the most likely place, or are other counties more > >>>likely? > >>> > >>>Thanks > >>>Diane > >> > >> You may want to check St. Charles County. WIlliam Scroggins and Olly > >> Best, both probably living in Omph Ghent but from families associated > >> with > >> Dorchester and Staunton, were married at Portage des Sioux, St. Charles > >> County, Missouri, 26 Nov 1849. Olly, who died in January 1852, is buried > >> in Staunton, William is at Tine Sawyer. > >> > >> ==== ILMACOUP Mailing List ==== > >> *** NEW *** > >> Macoupin County Death index 1878-1910 > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/death/index-lk.htm > >> > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thanks Carol, this is very informative. On Mar 4, 2007, at 12:10 AM, [email protected] wrote: > The following website may be of interest to those with an interest > in the > care and cleaning of tombstones: > > http://www.everlifememorials.com/headstones/cleaning-cemetery- > tombstones.htm
Hello Everyone, I am new to this list. I had an Aunt that lived in the Knox and Warren County, Illinois area. When she got married they went to Hannibal, Missouri. She died before I found this out so I never got a chance to ask her why they did that. Have a good day. Lisa [email protected] wrote: Maybe south of St Louis ----- Original Message ----- From: "dogtraks" To: Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] [ILMacoupin] marriages across the river? >I just ran across this old email and wonder if you have an A.C. Scroggins >in > your line. I have more names but don't recall them off hand. He came > from > Arkansas and I know he lived in Stigler Oklahoma. He was an Uncle of > mine. > Tom Hughes > [email protected] > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John M. Scroggins" > To: > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 6:45 PM > Subject: Re: [ILMacoupin] marriages across the river? > > >> At 05:10 PM 8/7/2006, you wrote: >>>Does anyone on this list know if/how readily Macoupin residents might >>>'run >>>off' to marry Missouri? >>>If so, is St. Louis the most likely place, or are other counties more >>>likely? >>> >>>Thanks >>>Diane >> >> You may want to check St. Charles County. WIlliam Scroggins and Olly >> Best, both probably living in Omph Ghent but from families associated >> with >> Dorchester and Staunton, were married at Portage des Sioux, St. Charles >> County, Missouri, 26 Nov 1849. Olly, who died in January 1852, is buried >> in Staunton, William is at Tine Sawyer. >> >> ==== ILMACOUP Mailing List ==== >> *** NEW *** >> Macoupin County Death index 1878-1910 >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/death/index-lk.htm >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Maybe south of St Louis ----- Original Message ----- From: "dogtraks" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] [ILMacoupin] marriages across the river? >I just ran across this old email and wonder if you have an A.C. Scroggins >in > your line. I have more names but don't recall them off hand. He came > from > Arkansas and I know he lived in Stigler Oklahoma. He was an Uncle of > mine. > Tom Hughes > [email protected] > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John M. Scroggins" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 6:45 PM > Subject: Re: [ILMacoupin] marriages across the river? > > >> At 05:10 PM 8/7/2006, you wrote: >>>Does anyone on this list know if/how readily Macoupin residents might >>>'run >>>off' to marry Missouri? >>>If so, is St. Louis the most likely place, or are other counties more >>>likely? >>> >>>Thanks >>>Diane >> >> You may want to check St. Charles County. WIlliam Scroggins and Olly >> Best, both probably living in Omph Ghent but from families associated >> with >> Dorchester and Staunton, were married at Portage des Sioux, St. Charles >> County, Missouri, 26 Nov 1849. Olly, who died in January 1852, is buried >> in Staunton, William is at Tine Sawyer. >> >> ==== ILMACOUP Mailing List ==== >> *** NEW *** >> Macoupin County Death index 1878-1910 >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/death/index-lk.htm >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
There are Scoggins in Logan Co. ILL too I was told that residents from ILL would go to Mo to get Married beacuse they didnt have to wait. There was a waiting period in ILL. This was in the 1920-30 s My Aunt and uncle went to Mo to marry. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "dogtraks" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] [ILMacoupin] marriages across the river? >I just ran across this old email and wonder if you have an A.C. Scroggins >in > your line. I have more names but don't recall them off hand. He came > from > Arkansas and I know he lived in Stigler Oklahoma. He was an Uncle of > mine. > Tom Hughes > [email protected] > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John M. Scroggins" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 6:45 PM > Subject: Re: [ILMacoupin] marriages across the river? > > >> At 05:10 PM 8/7/2006, you wrote: >>>Does anyone on this list know if/how readily Macoupin residents might >>>'run >>>off' to marry Missouri? >>>If so, is St. Louis the most likely place, or are other counties more >>>likely? >>> >>>Thanks >>>Diane >> >> You may want to check St. Charles County. WIlliam Scroggins and Olly >> Best, both probably living in Omph Ghent but from families associated >> with >> Dorchester and Staunton, were married at Portage des Sioux, St. Charles >> County, Missouri, 26 Nov 1849. Olly, who died in January 1852, is buried >> in Staunton, William is at Tine Sawyer. >> >> ==== ILMACOUP Mailing List ==== >> *** NEW *** >> Macoupin County Death index 1878-1910 >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/death/index-lk.htm >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
FYI Madison Co. only charges $5.00 for birth/death certificates for genealogy purposes.For birth must be at least 75 y/o to get for this price.For death must be at least 20 years old. Ruthann <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
The following website may be of interest to those with an interest in the care and cleaning of tombstones: http://www.everlifememorials.com/headstones/cleaning-cemetery-tombstones.htm Carol Dugger
KRATOCHVIL ANNA F/W Y-73 0002749 1950-01-09 MACOUPIN I found this on the Illinois site http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/GenealogyMWeb/idphdeathsrch.html This is for deaths but they also have one for births and marriage and it will explain how to get a copy of the certificates. Hope this helps MJ Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss it, you will land among the stars. Les Brown _________________________________________________________________ Win a Zunemake MSN® your homepage for your chance to win! http://homepage.msn.com/zune?icid=hmetagline
I just ran across this old email and wonder if you have an A.C. Scroggins in your line. I have more names but don't recall them off hand. He came from Arkansas and I know he lived in Stigler Oklahoma. He was an Uncle of mine. Tom Hughes [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "John M. Scroggins" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [ILMacoupin] marriages across the river? > At 05:10 PM 8/7/2006, you wrote: >>Does anyone on this list know if/how readily Macoupin residents might 'run >>off' to marry Missouri? >>If so, is St. Louis the most likely place, or are other counties more >>likely? >> >>Thanks >>Diane > > You may want to check St. Charles County. WIlliam Scroggins and Olly > Best, both probably living in Omph Ghent but from families associated with > Dorchester and Staunton, were married at Portage des Sioux, St. Charles > County, Missouri, 26 Nov 1849. Olly, who died in January 1852, is buried > in Staunton, William is at Tine Sawyer. > > ==== ILMACOUP Mailing List ==== > *** NEW *** > Macoupin County Death index 1878-1910 > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/death/index-lk.htm > >
When you click on the first url and it comes up "no page," stay on that page and type or paste in 007/E7-3160.htm at the end of the url. Gloria At 05:02 PM 3/1/2007, you wrote: >I've tried the links at the end of this message, and just get a 'page cannot >be found'. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "G Frazier" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:56 AM >Subject: [ILMACOUP] NARA hiking rates 338% on CW Pension Records... > > > > [please circulate intact, please note that the Civil War pension as well > > as other military pension/bounty records are not microfilmed except for > > Revolutionary War, only the indexes were. > > - David Samuelsen] > > > > *Warning to all U.S. genealogists! *Two rules published in the Federal > > Register on Monday, February 26, 2007, relate to fees for reproductions > > of records at the U.S. National Archives and Records Administration > > (NARA). In the case of Civil War pension applications, the proposal is > > for a 338% increase! > > > > Page 8327 contains a proposed rule revising fees for reproductions to > > cover NARA's costs for providing copies. On page 8279 is an interim > > final rule removing fee schedule fees for the reproduction of records > > of > > other Federal agencies stored in NARA records centers. > > > > The proposals are written in the finest governmental "legalese" > > language. However, it is obvious that the proposal is to *INCREASE* all > > fees. No surprise there, right? > > > > Here is the list: > > > > Type of record > > Order form > > Proposed Fee > > > > Passenger arrival lists > > NATF Form 81 > > $25.00 > > > > Federal Census requests > > NATF Form 82 > > $25.00 > > > > Eastern Cherokee applications to the Court of Claims > > NATF Form 83 > > $25.00 > > > > Land entry records > > NATF Form 84 > > $40.00 > > > > Full pension file more than 75 years old (Civil War period). > > NATF Form 85 > > $125.00 (a 338% increase from the present fee of $37.00!) > > > > Full pension file more than 75 years old (non-Civil War) > > NATF Form 85 > > $60.00 > > > > Pension documents packet (selected records). > > NATF Form 85 > > $25.00 > > > > Bounty land warrant application files > > NATF Form 85 > > $25.00 > > > > Military service files more than 75 years old > > NATF Form 86 > > $25.00 > > > > Both rules are open for public comment until April 27, 2007. There's > > much more information available in the Federal Register. > > > > The link to the proposed rule is: > > >http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/edocket.access.gpo.gov/2 > > 007/E7-3160.htm > > > > > > ><http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/edocket.access.gpo.go >v/> 2007/E7-3160.htm> > > > > The link to the interim final rule is: > > >http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/edocket.access.gpo.gov/2 > > 007/E7-3162.htm > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message
It is on the list I sent about the $125 "Full pension file more than 75 years old (Civil War period). NATF Form 85 $125.00 (a 338% increase from the present fee of $37.00!)" gf At 02:37 PM 3/1/2007, you wrote: >Gloria > >On another mail list I'm on, the list administrator >gave information saying that the cost for a Civil War >Pension record file would go from $40 to $125 per >request. > >Also, it was noted that if anyone wanted to send >messages to the NARA indicating their opposition to >the proposed changes that it should be done >individually. Individuals that work together and put >their name on the same message will be counted as just >one opposition because there was only one message. >This holds true for other issues as they are brought >out to the attention of the public. > > >Debbi > > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ >Want to start your own business? >Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. >http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Libby, I think you will have to copy and paste the whole URL [the 2nd line] into your browser window. Sharon On 1 Mar 2007 at 16:02, Libby Naderhoff wrote: I've tried the links at the end of this message, and just get a 'page cannot be found'. ----- Original Message ----- From: "G Frazier" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:56 AM Subject: [ILMACOUP] NARA hiking rates 338% on CW Pension Records... > [please circulate intact, please note that the Civil War pension as well > as other military pension/bounty records are not microfilmed except for > Revolutionary War, only the indexes were. > - David Samuelsen] > > *Warning to all U.S. genealogists! *Two rules published in the Federal > Register on Monday, February 26, 2007, relate to fees for reproductions > of records at the U.S. National Archives and Records Administration > (NARA). In the case of Civil War pension applications, the proposal is > for a 338% increase! > > Page 8327 contains a proposed rule revising fees for reproductions to > cover NARA's costs for providing copies. On page 8279 is an interim > final rule removing fee schedule fees for the reproduction of records > of > other Federal agencies stored in NARA records centers. > > The proposals are written in the finest governmental "legalese" > language. However, it is obvious that the proposal is to *INCREASE* all > fees. No surprise there, right? > > Here is the list: > > Type of record > Order form > Proposed Fee > > Passenger arrival lists > NATF Form 81 > $25.00 > > Federal Census requests > NATF Form 82 > $25.00 > > Eastern Cherokee applications to the Court of Claims > NATF Form 83 > $25.00 > > Land entry records > NATF Form 84 > $40.00 > > Full pension file more than 75 years old (Civil War period). > NATF Form 85 > $125.00 (a 338% increase from the present fee of $37.00!) > > Full pension file more than 75 years old (non-Civil War) > NATF Form 85 > $60.00 > > Pension documents packet (selected records). > NATF Form 85 > $25.00 > > Bounty land warrant application files > NATF Form 85 > $25.00 > > Military service files more than 75 years old > NATF Form 86 > $25.00 > > Both rules are open for public comment until April 27, 2007. There's > much more information available in the Federal Register. > > The link to the proposed rule is: > http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/edocket.access.gp o.gov/2 > 007/E7-3160.htm > > > <http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/edocket.access.g po.go v/ > 2007/E7-3160.htm> > > The link to the interim final rule is: > http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/edocket.access.gp o.gov/2 > 007/E7-3162.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP- [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I've tried the links at the end of this message, and just get a 'page cannot be found'. ----- Original Message ----- From: "G Frazier" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:56 AM Subject: [ILMACOUP] NARA hiking rates 338% on CW Pension Records... > [please circulate intact, please note that the Civil War pension as well > as other military pension/bounty records are not microfilmed except for > Revolutionary War, only the indexes were. > - David Samuelsen] > > *Warning to all U.S. genealogists! *Two rules published in the Federal > Register on Monday, February 26, 2007, relate to fees for reproductions > of records at the U.S. National Archives and Records Administration > (NARA). In the case of Civil War pension applications, the proposal is > for a 338% increase! > > Page 8327 contains a proposed rule revising fees for reproductions to > cover NARA's costs for providing copies. On page 8279 is an interim > final rule removing fee schedule fees for the reproduction of records > of > other Federal agencies stored in NARA records centers. > > The proposals are written in the finest governmental "legalese" > language. However, it is obvious that the proposal is to *INCREASE* all > fees. No surprise there, right? > > Here is the list: > > Type of record > Order form > Proposed Fee > > Passenger arrival lists > NATF Form 81 > $25.00 > > Federal Census requests > NATF Form 82 > $25.00 > > Eastern Cherokee applications to the Court of Claims > NATF Form 83 > $25.00 > > Land entry records > NATF Form 84 > $40.00 > > Full pension file more than 75 years old (Civil War period). > NATF Form 85 > $125.00 (a 338% increase from the present fee of $37.00!) > > Full pension file more than 75 years old (non-Civil War) > NATF Form 85 > $60.00 > > Pension documents packet (selected records). > NATF Form 85 > $25.00 > > Bounty land warrant application files > NATF Form 85 > $25.00 > > Military service files more than 75 years old > NATF Form 86 > $25.00 > > Both rules are open for public comment until April 27, 2007. There's > much more information available in the Federal Register. > > The link to the proposed rule is: > http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/edocket.access.gpo.gov/2 > 007/E7-3160.htm > > > <http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/edocket.access.gpo.go v/ > 2007/E7-3160.htm> > > The link to the interim final rule is: > http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/edocket.access.gpo.gov/2 > 007/E7-3162.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I just sent my objections!!! Dolores Andrews ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbi Geer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] NARA hiking rates 338% on CW Pension Records... > Gloria > > On another mail list I'm on, the list administrator > gave information saying that the cost for a Civil War > Pension record file would go from $40 to $125 per > request. > > Also, it was noted that if anyone wanted to send > messages to the NARA indicating their opposition to > the proposed changes that it should be done > individually. Individuals that work together and put > their name on the same message will be counted as just > one opposition because there was only one message. > This holds true for other issues as they are brought > out to the attention of the public. > > > Debbi > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Want to start your own business? > Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
[please circulate intact, please note that the Civil War pension as well as other military pension/bounty records are not microfilmed except for Revolutionary War, only the indexes were. - David Samuelsen] *Warning to all U.S. genealogists! *Two rules published in the Federal Register on Monday, February 26, 2007, relate to fees for reproductions of records at the U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA). In the case of Civil War pension applications, the proposal is for a 338% increase! Page 8327 contains a proposed rule revising fees for reproductions to cover NARA's costs for providing copies. On page 8279 is an interim final rule removing fee schedule fees for the reproduction of records of other Federal agencies stored in NARA records centers. The proposals are written in the finest governmental "legalese" language. However, it is obvious that the proposal is to *INCREASE* all fees. No surprise there, right? Here is the list: Type of record Order form Proposed Fee Passenger arrival lists NATF Form 81 $25.00 Federal Census requests NATF Form 82 $25.00 Eastern Cherokee applications to the Court of Claims NATF Form 83 $25.00 Land entry records NATF Form 84 $40.00 Full pension file more than 75 years old (Civil War period). NATF Form 85 $125.00 (a 338% increase from the present fee of $37.00!) Full pension file more than 75 years old (non-Civil War) NATF Form 85 $60.00 Pension documents packet (selected records). NATF Form 85 $25.00 Bounty land warrant application files NATF Form 85 $25.00 Military service files more than 75 years old NATF Form 86 $25.00 Both rules are open for public comment until April 27, 2007. There's much more information available in the Federal Register. The link to the proposed rule is: http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/edocket.access.gpo.gov/2 007/E7-3160.htm <http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/edocket.access.gpo.gov/ 2007/E7-3160.htm> The link to the interim final rule is: http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/edocket.access.gpo.gov/2 007/E7-3162.htm