In a message dated 3/8/2007 5:14:46 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: There is a Ruyle family book in the Edwardsville, Madison, IL public library. It's about either Moses or his parents or grandparents and their descendants who settled in Macoupin and Jersey Cos IL. I know that the late Alfred Ruyle and think it was his daughter Judy who were heavy in the researching the Ruyle family. It's possible that the information regarding Polly Ruyle Arnold came from Judy or someone who had a copy of the book. May or may not be the same person, but am inclined to believe that "Judy" your speaking of is my Dad's sisters daughter, or my cousin. I'll ask my Dad about contact info for her. Missi <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 3/8/2007 6:24:03 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I am somewhat related to John Ruyle who may know something about the reunion. He is a son of my Aunt's stepdaughter. He does have e-mail. Tell him Ilene gave you his e-mail address. It is: [email protected] He lives in Alton, IL, so he is in the area where the Ruyle family was from. I hope you will get the information you are seeking. Ilene wonder if it would be all right if I contacted him as well. I usually go "home" to Alton once a year, if I could work that in, it would be wonderful. Missi <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 3/8/2007 9:38:08 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Linda, I have a notation in my file about John Arnold/Polly Ruyle marriage though you may already have this. Unfortunately, I can't remember who sent this to me--it was a long time ago but I love these wonderful old stories: "Polly Ruyle Arnold of Macoupin Co. (Possum Trot), wife of John Record Arnold, dau. of Moses Ruyle and Elizabeth Kaiser. She was born in 1815, and died in 1896. A family story says that her husband John was deaf and mute, and after dusk, when Polly needed to call him in from the fields for supper, she would climb a tree in their front yard with a lantern and wave it from the tree. " Marriage date in Illinois Statewide Marriages is: ARNOLD, JOHN RUYLE, POLLY 01/03/1843 002/ 00000745 MACOUPIN What a sweet story... thanks for sharing. I've added to my notes as I'm related to the Ruyles. Missi <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 3/8/2007 9:00:24 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I will jump in on this also. I have Susan Arnold Sharp Dial as daughter of Hopson Arnold born 1789 and Avery "Avie" Nix Arnold born 1781. Hopson is the son of a WM Arnold but I don't have a wife for this Wm Arnold who I have as a son of John Arnold and Sarah Brown from Prince Edward Co, VA. The Wm Arnold that Susan Arnold Sharp and her husband were living with in 1850 census might have been her brother, William who married Lucy Cannady. List of siblings I have for Susan Arnold Sharp Dial : Sally (possibly Sarah) Arnold born 1805, married John Barnett William Arnold born about 1808, married Lucy Cannady Agnes Arnold born 1811, married Cornelius Elliott Frances Arnold born 1818, married Robert S Hill John Record Arnold born 1820, married Mary "Polly" Ruyle Very interesting..... especially the Agnes md to an Elliott. I think I am somehow related to every person in Macoupin Co. lol Missi <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 3/8/2007 8:02:56 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: A Don Ruyle contacted me some time ago he is a related to the Sharp's have you seen his online tree? I have and have corresponded with him sharing info. My Dad's, Dad were of Lynch/Sharps his Mom Ruyle's. Funny how they were all intertwined my grandfathers parents were actually first cousins. That was interesting to discover. Missi <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

I see no problem with your contacting him. Several years ago, he did some mild research on his Ruyle family, but I don't know just how much he has done. I know he was in contact with Ed Ruyle, Jr. Good luck. Ilene -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 7:39 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] John Arnold/Polly Ruyle In a message dated 3/8/2007 6:24:03 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I am somewhat related to John Ruyle who may know something about the reunion. He is a son of my Aunt's stepdaughter. He does have e-mail. Tell him Ilene gave you his e-mail address. It is: [email protected] He lives in Alton, IL, so he is in the area where the Ruyle family was from. I hope you will get the information you are seeking. Ilene wonder if it would be all right if I contacted him as well. I usually go "home" to Alton once a year, if I could work that in, it would be wonderful. Missi <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Missi I think Judy's married name was Coyne, but someone told me that they thought she died a few years ago. I was under the impression that Judy' maiden name was Ruyle and that Alfred was her father from what I recall in her correspondence about 10 or so years ago. Debbi ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091

I received this information in the year 2000. Here are a few of the e-mails that it was address to at that time. I don't know if any of them are still active. Ed Ruyle, Jr. [email protected]; Achey, Leah. [email protected]; Barnes, Arlyda, [email protected]; Beetel, Donna. [email protected]; and Brown, Jim & Donna. [email protected] I am somewhat related to John Ruyle who may know something about the reunion. He is a son of my Aunt's stepdaughter. He does have e-mail. Tell him Ilene gave you his e-mail address. It is: [email protected] He lives in Alton, IL, so he is in the area where the Ruyle family was from. I hope you will get the information you are seeking. Ilene Jones I received the info below, from a descendant of Floyd... Floyd was born January 9, 1892, as you noted. He married my grandmother, Agnes Marie Dowd, on April 16, 1913, at Saint Edward's Catholic Church in Saint Louis, Missouri. Agnes and Floyd's marriage license is still in the Saint Louis City Archives. Floyd died February, 1966, and was buried March 2, 1966, in Calvary Cemetery in Saint Louis, in Section 30, Lot 213, with his wife, Agnes, and his mother, Agnes (Peet) Walker, who died in August,1968. (Agnes Peet Ruyle married "Grandpa Walker" long after her husband John died. We heard that her husband John Ruyle died of appendicitis, despite an operation on the kitchen table! After that, Agnes moved to Saint Louis with her sons to work.) Agnes Marie Dowd was born October 4, 1893, in Saint Louis. Her father was Thomas F. Dowd, born September 8, 1867-in Boston, we think. Thomas died March 9, 1939. Her mother was Mary Elizabeth Cassin, born August 17, 1868. We think Mary Elizabeth was born in Saint Louis of Irish parents. Mary Elizabeth died January 18, 1917. Thomas never remarried. Thomas and Mary had five girls, including my grandmother. Most are buried with them in the Dowd family plot at Calvary Cemetery in Saint Louis, Section 21, Lot 1865. Floyd and Agnes had seven children. Agnes, Delores, Blanche, Jim and John are still around! Agnes Ruyle, born June 25, 1914 Delores Ruyle Gittemeier, born October 5, 1915, married Maurice Gittemeier. Robert A. Ruyle, born September 18, 1917, married Delores Delaney (who died in 1985), died 1986. Floyd J. Ruyle, born 1920, died March 16, 1921 Blanche Ruyle Peterson, born September 23, 1921 James Leo Ruyle, born June 7, 1924, married Marjorie Ann Newell (born November 25, 1928, died March 28, 1990) on June 25, 1952. John T. Ruyle, born March 28, 1926, married Therese, but I don't recall her maiden name at the moment. They are both still around, doing pretty well. James Leo Ruyle is my father. I'm not sure how much you want to put into your gedcom about the people who are still around, but it may be useful to you, eventually. I have lots of cousins, brothers and sisters, nieces and nephews, grand-nieces and grand-nephews, and a son (in Ireland, currently). All are descendents of Floyd Albert Ruyle. Can you use these names and their dates, too? I noticed that you do have "private" noted beside some of the names. Is that for the people who are still around? I am still investigating. Slowly but surely, I am building up quite a bit of information! And I will keep you posted! Please let me know if you have any questions! And thank you for all your help in setting up this great database! Connie Ruyle Abeln -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Debbi Geer Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 3:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] John Arnold/Polly Ruyle Carol and Linda There is a Ruyle family book in the Edwardsville, Madison, IL public library. It's about either Moses or his parents or grandparents and their descendants who settled in Macoupin and Jersey Cos IL. I know that the late Alfred Ruyle and think it was his daughter Judy who were heavy in the researching the Ruyle family. It's possible that the information regarding Polly Ruyle Arnold came from Judy or someone who had a copy of the book. The Ruyle family did at one time have an annual reunion but I don't know if the descendants still gather. Possibly someone in the Staunton area will know more since I believe it was held in Staunton. Debbi Geer ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Email me off list ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: [ILMACOUP] Arnold Susannah > Paul, > > Looking forward to your sharing. > > Brenda > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi, I just do not like to put stuff online as most of it gets used incorrectly. I have worked on the Arnold family for many years. I was just working on the very family you requested! My name is Marilyn Galvan and I live in Girard, IL. If you want to call me I can talk to you easier than emailing all that I have done to date. Your Susannah Arnold was the daughter of William Arnold and Eleanor Hill. At least she is the one I am pretty sure is the mother. I cannot find a document to prove this as yet, but I do have tons of other information on the family. Susannah had a sister born about two years later and then the mother died and the dad remarried Lucy Cannaday on June 18, 1833. Please contact me and I can relate some of the rest of the story. Also William was the brother of John Record Arnold according to what I have found. Cheers, Marilyn G. 217-627-2949 ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 7:25 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Susannah "Susan" Arnold Sharp Dial > > > Thank you so much, looking forward to what you have. > > I do have some data on John just email me off site if you would like it. > > > In a message dated 03/07/2007 1:31:04 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > In a message dated 3/7/2007 10:14:16 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Please any suggestions are welcome. > > > Have hit a brick wall for over two years now on my 2nd great grandmother > Susannah "Susan" Arnold Sharp Dial. According to what I know to date is > she was > either born in TN or IL source: census abt 1822. Her parents may be > Hopson > Arnold and Avery Nix. > > She first married John Wiley Sharp b. abt 1822 in TN they married on 24 > Feb > > 1841 in Macoupin County. They had 8 children to my knowledge. John > died > abt > Jul 1858. > > > > just looking at the email quickly... I am related to the Sharp/Lynch's > that > came from Claiborne TN to Macoupin IL. John I believe to be in my line... > Arnold sounds familiar in TN. I will look in my Lynch db and see what I > can > find > for you. > > > > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carol and Linda There is a Ruyle family book in the Edwardsville, Madison, IL public library. It's about either Moses or his parents or grandparents and their descendants who settled in Macoupin and Jersey Cos IL. I know that the late Alfred Ruyle and think it was his daughter Judy who were heavy in the researching the Ruyle family. It's possible that the information regarding Polly Ruyle Arnold came from Judy or someone who had a copy of the book. The Ruyle family did at one time have an annual reunion but I don't know if the descendants still gather. Possibly someone in the Staunton area will know more since I believe it was held in Staunton. Debbi Geer ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091

Paul, Looking forward to your sharing. Brenda <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Hopsin Arnold was married twice. when I get organized after my Puter crash will share i8nformation. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Peper" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Susannah "Susan" Arnold Sharp Dial >I will jump in on this also. I have Susan Arnold Sharp Dial as daughter of > Hopson Arnold born 1789 and Avery "Avie" Nix Arnold born 1781. Hopson is > the son of a WM Arnold but I don't have a wife for this Wm Arnold who I > have > as a son of John Arnold and Sarah Brown from Prince Edward Co, VA. > The Wm Arnold that Susan Arnold Sharp and her husband were living with in > 1850 census might have been her brother, William who married Lucy Cannady. > List of siblings I have for Susan Arnold Sharp Dial : > > Sally (possibly Sarah) Arnold born 1805, married John Barnett > William Arnold born about 1808, married Lucy Cannady > Agnes Arnold born 1811, married Cornelius Elliott > Frances Arnold born 1818, married Robert S Hill > John Record Arnold born 1820, married Mary "Polly" Ruyle > > Please send me any corrections or additions. > > Linda Arnold Peper > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 9:41 AM > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Susannah "Susan" Arnold Sharp Dial > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Missi, Just so I can keep it straight I will respond next in the body of your email below with a different color. In a message dated 03/08/2007 9:44:54 A.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Well the info I had in my db was incorrect, which had me digging of course to correct it. I would tend to believe the 1870 mortality, info seems right on. Something interesting that I did find, maybe you already have this info I found Ashford Dial in Christian Co IL in 1880 listed as father of Thos J. Dial. Yes I have that and Thomas is indeed his son from his first marriage. Also in Christian Co there is a Mary Arnold 14 living with Wm. & Naomi Fleming ages 65 and 60 resp. sorry I don't know what this is the abbreviation for? Mary is listed as their niece. Is Naomi an Arnold? since I have just discovered that Hopson and Avery may be Susannah's parents I don't have any idea who her siblings are yet. If she was 60 in 1880 dob is 1820... Susanna 1822. It is possible that one of Susanna's relatives took over care of Mary, likely if not with Ashford. I looked up her Sharp and Dial siblings maybe they took her in, nothing concrete there. I too tried that and didn't find her. John W. Sharp and Susana were living with Wm Arnold in 1850 Macoupin. Wm is old enough to be her father but also to be her brother. I did have info on Wm and John Record Arnold have parents as Hopson and Avie (Nix) Arnold. One person a very long time ago told me that they thought Hugh Arnold and a ? Rieyle were Susannah's parents. I too found the William as a possible but am thinking he is most likely a brother. I probably havent helped much.... hopefully something. Since I am related to the Sharp's I wanted to make sure that my info was correct... so thank you. I have some data on the Sharp's as I was hoping to find Mary with them but haven't had any luck. Most of the data I have on the Sharp's has come from census records so you most likely have that. A Don Ruyle contacted me some time ago he is a related to the Sharp's have you seen his online tree? Brenda Missi <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

I will jump in on this also. I have Susan Arnold Sharp Dial as daughter of Hopson Arnold born 1789 and Avery "Avie" Nix Arnold born 1781. Hopson is the son of a WM Arnold but I don't have a wife for this Wm Arnold who I have as a son of John Arnold and Sarah Brown from Prince Edward Co, VA. The Wm Arnold that Susan Arnold Sharp and her husband were living with in 1850 census might have been her brother, William who married Lucy Cannady. List of siblings I have for Susan Arnold Sharp Dial : Sally (possibly Sarah) Arnold born 1805, married John Barnett William Arnold born about 1808, married Lucy Cannady Agnes Arnold born 1811, married Cornelius Elliott Frances Arnold born 1818, married Robert S Hill John Record Arnold born 1820, married Mary "Polly" Ruyle Please send me any corrections or additions. Linda Arnold Peper ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Susannah "Susan" Arnold Sharp Dial

In a message dated 3/7/2007 10:14:16 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Susan then married Ashford Dial b.14 Mar 1809, Ohio on 29 Nov 1862 in Macoupin County. They had one child Mary Rozella Dial b. 17 Dec 1865 (this is my great grandmother). Susan & Ashford are the parents she listed on her marriage application. Well the info I had in my db was incorrect, which had me digging of course to correct it. I would tend to believe the 1870 mortality, info seems right on. Something interesting that I did find, maybe you already have this info I found Ashford Dial in Christian Co IL in 1880 listed as father of Thos J. Dial. Also in Christian Co there is a Mary Arnold 14 living with Wm. & Naomi Fleming ages 65 and 60 resp. Mary is listed as their niece. Is Naomi an Arnold? If she was 60 in 1880 dob is 1820... Susanna 1822. It is possible that one of Susanna's relatives took over care of Mary, likely if not with Ashford. I looked up her Sharp and Dial siblings maybe they took her in, nothing concrete there. John W. Sharp and Susana were living with Wm Arnold in 1850 Macoupin. Wm is old enough to be her father but also to be her brother. I did have info on Wm and John Record Arnold have parents as Hopson and Avie (Nix) Arnold. I probably havent helped much.... hopefully something. Since I am related to the Sharp's I wanted to make sure that my info was correct... so thank you. Missi <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Linda, I have a notation in my file about John Arnold/Polly Ruyle marriage though you may already have this. Unfortunately, I can't remember who sent this to me--it was a long time ago but I love these wonderful old stories: "Polly Ruyle Arnold of Macoupin Co. (Possum Trot), wife of John Record Arnold, dau. of Moses Ruyle and Elizabeth Kaiser. She was born in 1815, and died in 1896. A family story says that her husband John was deaf and mute, and after dusk, when Polly needed to call him in from the fields for supper, she would climb a tree in their front yard with a lantern and wave it from the tree. " Marriage date in Illinois Statewide Marriages is: ARNOLD, JOHN RUYLE, POLLY 01/03/1843 002/ 00000745 MACOUPIN Carol Dugger Rio Vista, CA

Thank you so much, looking forward to what you have. I do have some data on John just email me off site if you would like it. In a message dated 03/07/2007 1:31:04 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: In a message dated 3/7/2007 10:14:16 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Please any suggestions are welcome. Have hit a brick wall for over two years now on my 2nd great grandmother Susannah "Susan" Arnold Sharp Dial. According to what I know to date is she was either born in TN or IL source: census abt 1822. Her parents may be Hopson Arnold and Avery Nix. She first married John Wiley Sharp b. abt 1822 in TN they married on 24 Feb 1841 in Macoupin County. They had 8 children to my knowledge. John died abt Jul 1858. just looking at the email quickly... I am related to the Sharp/Lynch's that came from Claiborne TN to Macoupin IL. John I believe to be in my line... Arnold sounds familiar in TN. I will look in my Lynch db and see what I can find for you. <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

I certainly didn't mean to start such a "war" when I wrote about our funeral director telling me to use shaving cream to clean headstones. Please, let's all make whatever decision feels right to us---leave others alone to make their own decision on what to use and not to use and get back to a topic that is peaceful and more the intent of this listserv-----Enough already!!! Darlene <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 3/7/2007 10:14:16 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Please any suggestions are welcome. Have hit a brick wall for over two years now on my 2nd great grandmother Susannah "Susan" Arnold Sharp Dial. According to what I know to date is she was either born in TN or IL source: census abt 1822. Her parents may be Hopson Arnold and Avery Nix. She first married John Wiley Sharp b. abt 1822 in TN they married on 24 Feb 1841 in Macoupin County. They had 8 children to my knowledge. John died abt Jul 1858. just looking at the email quickly... I am related to the Sharp/Lynch's that came from Claiborne TN to Macoupin IL. John I believe to be in my line... Arnold sounds familiar in TN. I will look in my Lynch db and see what I can find for you. <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.