Hi Penny, Saw your message and the name Mayer. Do you by chance have a Martin and Catherine or William Mayer that you are researching? Look forward to hearing from you. Thanks! Carolyn S. Allen Cecil Lincoln, IL ----- Original Message ----- From: Penny Husler <PHusler@PacBell.net> To: <ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 12:12 PM Subject: [ILLOGAN] Stoll Family in 1850 Census > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------515A2D56FEB8203A5AA37EDF > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Hi George, > > I had some difficulty with the Stoll & Mayer families and it appears > that the Census takers did, too. In 1850 it looks like they were English > speakers tryng to record German names given to them by people with > serious German accents. > > Stoll = Stull First name in Erhard's case = A for Airhart! > Mayer = Myer > > Here are my Erhard Stoll Census Transcriptions [With additions]: > I realize you know most of this but it's a simple cut and paste from my notes: > > >From Wurtemberg Immigration Index: > Stoll, Erhard & F > Birth Date: > Birth Place: Maisenbach > District: Neuenbürg > Application Date: Feb 1847 > Destination: N.-Amer > Number: 838502.00 LDS FHL Microfilm > > According to George Irwin's World Family Tree Vol 2 Tree # 5460: > Erhardt came to the United States in 1847. He sailed to New York then > went by steamer and wagon to Springfield, Illinois. He went on to > Chestnut, Illinois in 1848 > 1848: Purchased 80 Acres, Sect 4, Laenna Twp, Logan Co., Ill > > 1850 US Census: No Twp listed, Logan Co, IL: FHL# 0007 689/NARA Roll > 116, page 200 > Enumerated on the 28th day of Sep. > 452, 457 Ahart Stull, 42, Farmer, 1200, Germany > Mary, 40 [Mary Agnes Rentschler, m1 Dittus, m2 Stoll] > Frederick, 17, Attends School [Fred Dittus/Stoll m. Sarah Hagenbuch] > Katharine, 15, Attends School [m. George Schaffenacker] > Barbary, 11, Attends School [Anna Barbara m. William Rupp] > Ahart, 7, Attends School [m. Anna Catherine Mayer] > Mathew, 6 [m1. Mary Gehlbach, m2. Christina Volle] > Georg, 5 [m. Wilhelmina Maus] > Jacob, 6/12 [m. Mary Roos] > > 1860 U.S. Census: Mt Pulaski, Logan Co., IL, FHL# 0803 200, page 203 > Ulrich Stoll is living next door with the Schaffenackers (daughter Katherine) > Sometimes it's hard to look at these old records: This census taker was > at the home on the 24th day of July 1860. Erhard Stoll would be dead > within 2 weeks. Erhard's age should have been 52. > 1448 1478 A Stull, 50 Farmer, 5000, 800. Germany > Mary, 50 Germany > Barbara, 18 Germany > Ahart, 16 Germany, Attends school > Mat, 14 Germany, Attends school > Geo, 13 Germany, Attends school > Jacob, 10 IL , Attends school > > 1870 Census: Leannna, Logan, IL - page 74 > Living next to George Schaffenacker and her daughter Anna Katharine Schaffenacker > Stoll Mary, 61 Keeps house 4.000 - 1.000 > George 23 Farmer Not listed - 16.500 (could be 6,500) > Jacob 20 works in farm > > > Hope this helps my Stoll family relatives, > Penny Husler > ______________________________ > --------------515A2D56FEB8203A5AA37EDF > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; > name="nsmail2" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline; > filename="nsmail2" > > X-Message: #1 > Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:05:06 -0500 > From: George Irwin <girwin35@worldnet.att.net> > To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <37B0E862.78C5846B@worldnet.att.net> > Subject: [ILLOGAN] Re: [ILLOGAN-L] 1850 Census Up > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Anyone have an idea on how thorough the coverage was on this census? > > My Stoll ancestors left Germany in 1847 and came to Logan County, but I > did not see any listing. > > Also, I know the Randolphs came from Virginia to the area of Salt Creek > SE of Beason around 1830, but see no listing for them either. > > ______________________________ > > --------------515A2D56FEB8203A5AA37EDF > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; > name="nsmail3" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline; > filename="nsmail3" > > X-Message: #2 > Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 21:09:27 -0700 > From: Earliene Kaelin <jeniann@wa.net> > To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <01BEE374.A61D4480.jeniann@wa.net> > Subject: RE: [ILLOGAN] Re: [ILLOGAN-L] 1850 Census Up > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > George The Randolph's are there, some on pg 198B. I am working on an index > but it will be awhile yet, but so far have not run across your Stoll > family. If I do I will let you know. I am sending the index to Cheryl > when I get through so she will let everyone know when it is posted. > Please, I cannot do look-ups though and get it done. It is not in any > order yet. > Earliene Kaelin jeniann@wa.net or earliene@wa.net > 1118 156th St. East > Tacoma, WA. 98445-2324 > Coordinator for http://www.rootsweb.com/~ildewitt/ > Home Page http://www.telisphere.com/~cartmill > > -----Original Message----- > From: George Irwin [SMTP:girwin35@Worldnet.Att.Net] > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 8:05 PM > To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ILLOGAN] Re: [ILLOGAN-L] 1850 Census Up > > Anyone have an idea on how thorough the coverage was on this census? > > My Stoll ancestors left Germany in 1847 and came to Logan County, but I > did not see any listing. > > Also, I know the Randolphs came from Virginia to the area of Salt Creek > SE of Beason around 1830, but see no listing for them either. > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > Space for this list is provided free by RootsWeb.com which also provides > free space for the ILGenWeb Logan County pages. > > ______________________________ > > --------------515A2D56FEB8203A5AA37EDF > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; > name="nsmail4" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline; > filename="nsmail4" > > X-Message: #3 > Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 00:15:43 EDT > From: WBradfCapt@aol.com > To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <a34ab8db.24e252ef@aol.com> > Subject: [ILLOGAN] 1850 Census > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > George Irwin, > In your post you didn't mention, or I missed another post, exactly what > you looked at to find your people on the Adams Co... Census. > If you only looked at an index of the Illinois Census, then it is very > possible > that they will not be found. The published Census indexes have, in general, > about a 20% error rate, ranging from omissions to poor interpretations > of the spelling of names. Look for any possible alternate spelling and > any possible incorrect spelling. If you don't find a family in a state index, > check to see if the local Genealogy Society has indexed the county's > census, and check that. They are usually accurate. If no county index is > available, the only alternative is to obtain the Census on microfilm and > go through the whole thing. That can be a laborious process, but it is > the only way to find out for sure if a family was there or not. > Bill in Kansas > > > > ______________________________ > > --------------515A2D56FEB8203A5AA37EDF > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; > name="nsmail5" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline; > filename="nsmail5" > > X-Message: #4 > Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:43:22 -0700 > From: "Tom G Dean" <HISSERVANTS@prodigy.net> > To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <019101bee410$3f79a920$b0c5fdd1@default> > Subject: [ILLOGAN] 1850 Logan Co., Census > > A big thank you for working on this site. As a mother of 3 young children > and one who has tried the library thing with them all, I truly appreciate > being able to use the computer in a home setting rather than trying to keep > them busy and quite while searching the microfilm. Thanks thanks > thanks...... > > One thing though, are there pages missing? On page 193 it ends with David > BIRKS & wife but I know that there is more. I was also told once from a > lookup that a certain ancestor was on page 194. > > Again, thank you to all of you donors and if someone has another "plan" in > mind, consider me for a donation. > > Laurie > > ______________________________ > > --------------515A2D56FEB8203A5AA37EDF > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; > name="nsmail6" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline; > filename="nsmail6" > > X-Message: #5 > Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 06:49:17 -0600 > From: jriter@du.edu > To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Message-id: <0FGA00IF4XLY5H@du.edu> > Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN] 1850 Logan Co., Census > Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > > > > Hi Laurie: > > Hope you received the forwarded message I sent you yesterday regarding the > web site and the IGI info. Just another outstanding resource coming our way. > And thank you again for all the BURK-HUSTON info-I had it spiral bound so I > could work with the data more easily. Have a good rest of August! > > Marlyn Riter > Denver > > > > ______________________________ > > --------------515A2D56FEB8203A5AA37EDF > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; > name="nsmail7" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline; > filename="nsmail7" > > X-Message: #6 > Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 06:54:08 -0600 > From: jriter@du.edu > To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Message-id: <0FGA00IHOXU05H@du.edu> > Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN] 1850 Logan Co., Census > Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > > >Hello > > Does anyone have any historical accounts of Latham, Logan Co, Illinois? > And in addition, does anyone have any accounts of the STENNET families of the sasme county. > My grandfather, Charles Huston Stennett was born 12 Jun 1871 in Latham. > > Thank you. > > Marlyn Riter > Denver > > > > > > ______________________________ > > --------------515A2D56FEB8203A5AA37EDF > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; > name="nsmail8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline; > filename="nsmail8" > > X-Message: #7 > Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:17:41 -0500 > From: George Irwin <girwin35@worldnet.att.net> > To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <37B177F5.D690DEAC@worldnet.att.net> > Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN] 1850 Census > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Thanks for your interest. > > I was looking at a newly-posted Logan County index. The problem appears > to be that the link page I was provided comes up with files numbered to > 193b. I am told there are additional pages, and they include both the > Randolph and the Stoll entries. Now I have to figure out why the > listing on my screen does not include them. > > ______________________________ > > --------------515A2D56FEB8203A5AA37EDF > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; > name="nsmail9" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline; > filename="nsmail9" > > X-Message: #8 > Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:26:29 -0700 > From: Earliene Kaelin <jeniann@wa.net> > To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <01BEE3DC.DD79A640.jeniann@wa.net> > Subject: RE: [ILLOGAN] 1850 Logan Co., Census > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Laura Cheryl is out of town. I have no idea why it is only going to page > 193 > Here is the rest of your family until Cheryl can figure out the problem, > the census has 288 A&B so there are a lot of other Birks. I would look > them all up but am working on an index for it. > Page 193A > David Birk wm age 36 b. TN Farmer > Phebe wf age 31 b. OH > Page 193B > Mary wf age 14 b. IL > Elizabeth wf age 12 b. IL > John wm age 10 b. IL > Lydia wf age 8 b. IL > Jeremiah wwm age 5 b. IL > James R. wm age 3 b. IL > Roland wm age 3 months b. IL > > Earliene Kaelin jeniann@wa.net or earliene@wa.net > 1118 156th St. East > Tacoma, WA. 98445-2324 > Coordinator for http://www.rootsweb.com/~ildewitt/ > Home Page http://www.telisphere.com/~cartmill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom G Dean [SMTP:HISSERVANTS@prodigy.net] > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 8:43 AM > To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ILLOGAN] 1850 Logan Co., Census > > > A big thank you for working on this site. As a mother of 3 young > children > and one who has tried the library thing with them all, I truly appreciate > being able to use the computer in a home setting rather than trying to keep > them busy and quite while searching the microfilm. Thanks thanks > thanks...... > > One thing though, are there pages missing? On page 193 it ends with David > BIRKS & wife but I know that there is more. I was also told once from a > lookup that a certain ancestor was on page 194. > > Again, thank you to all of you donors and if someone has another "plan" in > mind, consider me for a donation. > > Laurie > > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > Logan County is on roll 248 of the 1870 Census. > > ______________________________ > > --------------515A2D56FEB8203A5AA37EDF > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; > name="nsmail10" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline; > filename="nsmail10" > > X-Message: #9 > Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:35:29 -0700 > From: Earliene Kaelin <jeniann@wa.net> > To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <01BEE3DC.E2CF4FA0.jeniann@wa.net> > Subject: [ILLOGAN] 1850 Census > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > You are all right for some reason all the images are not coming up. Cheryl > is out of town. I have contacted the person in charge of this but she is > also involved in a move this week. Please be patient and it will get > fixed. The census pages actually go to 228B so only a small portion is > showing. > Earliene Kaelin jeniann@wa.net or earliene@wa.net > 1118 156th St. East > Tacoma, WA. 98445-2324 > Coordinator for http://www.rootsweb.com/~ildewitt/ > Home Page http://www.telisphere.com/~cartmill > > ______________________________ > > --------------515A2D56FEB8203A5AA37EDF > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; > name="nsmail11" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline; > filename="nsmail11" > > X-Message: #10 > Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:17:47 -0700 > From: Earliene Kaelin <jeniann@wa.net> > To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <01BEE3E3.6EF0AAA0.jeniann@wa.net> > Subject: [ILLOGAN] RE:1850 CENSUS > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Okay, it may be awhile before the census is fixed. The person in charge is > off line till the 23rd of August( yep, even we volunteers need time off > HA!) Now I will do limited look-ups but only if you know the page number. > Sorry I can't do more but I do many look-ups and just do not have the time > to dig through all the pages. As soon as I get the Index done it will be > easier to do them. I will post the Index here on the list but be aware that > it will be a huge file. I will be gone the rest of today and then leave > tomorrow afternoon for a long weekend, so be patient. > Earliene Kaelin jeniann@wa.net or earliene@wa.net > 1118 156th St. East > Tacoma, WA. 98445-2324 > Coordinator for http://www.rootsweb.com/~ildewitt/ > Home Page http://www.telisphere.com/~cartmill > > ______________________________ > > --------------515A2D56FEB8203A5AA37EDF > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; > name="nsmail12" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline; > filename="nsmail12" > > X-Message: #11 > Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:11:18 EDT > From: PBord1950@aol.com > To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <ceef238e.24e340f6@aol.com> > Subject: [ILLOGAN] 1850 Census > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > HI everbody. > Until Earline can get the index finished for the 1850 census, I would be > willing to tell you the page # for your ancestor. I have a index of head of > households on CD for 1850. Just e-mail me privately with with the first and > last names of those you are looking for. This will be the page numbers to > look for on the census, no further info is includ > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > Logan County is on roll 200 of the 1860 Census. It takes the whole roll. > >