Dr. John Vallentine is probably THE most reputable Lucas researcher for these lines. He is a PhD, Professor Emeritus at Brigham Young University, Certified Genealogist, Accredited Genealogist, etc. He's been researching for at least 50 years. I should add that his maternal great grandmother and mine were sisters. He has researched every one of their ancestral lines in great detail which makes me very happy of course. So, if he was the submitter I'd tend to believe AF. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas