Oh yes indeed they are. I have information on the Birks and the Copelands and the others [except for Mann -- but no one has him pinned down yet]. I have not entered all of the information I have on those lines into the computer but I will send you what I have. It's too long for this list. Anyone else who is interested can let me know and I'll share it. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas