I have some Holland information and a small book on some of them that I put together when trying to sort out pictures from an the estate of Paul Ginther. If anyone is interested, please let me know. Joan Black Lund 515 Bonnymeade Champaign, IL 61821-3490 j-lund@uiuc.edu N9SYV - ARES member "My passion is genealogy." http://www.tbox.com/isgs http://www.tbox.com/ccgs http://staff.uiuc.edu/~j-lund/joan.html http://staff.uiuc.edu/~j-lund/ares.html Netscape Instant Message screen name = genejbl Additional e-mail address = genejbl@netscape.com or jblgene@aol.com For the program I use for genealogy see http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/