Dear Alberta, Thank you so much for your efforts listing your Williams information. It helps me make the links between families knowing who doesn't work. I believe with the Williams surname, I may be in for alot of that. The Williams family that you listed and that were the neighbors of the Richner's for many years act as a beacon in my research. So many of our microfilm copies are barely legible and in addition the names are misspelled. Having the Williams family next door helps me locate my Richners. It's even fun to find out they lived "North." It's one more mental image. Regarding the Richners that you knew. Richner is a fairly rare name in the US. It's pretty much guaranteed if they live in the immediate area of Logan they are related and so am I. Here's an abreviated listing of decendents. Many of the next generation are still living and I don't wish to be intrusive. I was born the the San Francisco Bay Area and have lived here all my life. I've never visited Illinois or had any contact with my Logan family. I just started with my Baby Book and worked my way backward. Unless Carl Frederick was born later, it looks like the following listing but I'm still trying to piece together the details. I think it's cute that the 2 Richner boys married the Stoll Girls. Are the 2 Roos men brothers? Does anyone know? Thank you again, Penny (Richner) Husler Frederick Richner m. 1st Wife (name unknown) | Carl Frederic "Charles" Richner* m. Agnes Elizabeth "Lizzie" Stoll | | Mary Anna Christina Richner m. Richard J. Roos | | Levena Lillie "Leonnie" Richner m. Clemens Wachter | | Wilhelm Frederick Erhardt Richner* m. Pearl Gertrude Williams | | | Charles Harrison Richner --------------- (My father) | | Wilhelm Frederick Erhardt Richner* 2nd m. living +child | | Emma E. Richner* m. Ernest Davidson | | Emma E. Richner* 2nd m. Ephfrin Birks | | Rena S. [Orena] Richner | Carl Frederic "Charles" Richner* 2nd m. Louanna (unknown) Frederick Richner* 2nd m. Christina (Richner) | Mattie Richner | Henry A. Richner m. Emma C. Stoll | | Florence A. Richner m. Elmer Matthew Roos | | Walter Henry Richner m. Sara "Josephine" Gardner | William Richner Dear Penny: > I don't know if this will be of any help. I have noticed your name on > the ILLOGAN list several times and wondered if you were related to the > Richner's that I knew. I taught Fair Haven School in 1945-46; twins > Marvin & Ray and their younger brother Neil Richner were among my > students. They were sons of Walter & Josephine Richner who lived north > of the Frank Williams farm. Today my friend and 4th cousin Jessie Ruth > Myrick Stogdell owns and lives on that farm which belonged to her Uncle > Frank. Her mother was Ruth Williams Myrick. > Sincerely, > Alberta McKinley Lisk > Descendants of William Williams > > 1 William WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1820 > . +Ruth ELLIS b: Abt. 1820 m: Abt. 1839 > ..... 2 William Ellis WILLIAMS b: 04 May, 1840 New York d: 1928 ------------------- Snip -------------------