I don't know and I don't think you can gather anything from the wording of pleadings. There's always a way to say something and make it better [or worse] than it is. "that during the whole of his said married life, your orator has treated the said Eliza C. Pierce in a proper, kind and indulgent manner..." We still say garbage like that today and it is still baloney. <g> Hell hath no fury and all that. What happened to her after that? Did she marry Milo? Is the attorney Hobbitt or Hoblit? I suspect Hoblit. It's probably "being fully advised in the premises..." Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al -----Original Message----- From: Joan Lund [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 3:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ILLOGAN] Pierce Divorce Think she was set-up? Joan --- Cheryl Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote: > > It's not nice to like your husband's relatives more than your > husband??? > > Today if she were in default for failure to plead or appear they > wouldn't have to hear the testimony. > > Cheryl Rothwell > [email protected] > Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional > Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joan Lund [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 11:53 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ILLOGAN] Pierce Divorce > > Let me know your thought after you read this. > Joan > > State of Illinois in the Circuit Court, Logan Co., IL to the May Term > A.D. > 1881 Hiram L. Pierce vs Eliza C. Pierce, bill for divorce - > And now on this day came the complainant Hiram L. > Perce by J. T. Hobbit, his solicitor, and this cause having come to be > heard upon the bill of complaint herein and the said defendeant Eliza > C. Pierce having been duly served with process of summons in this > cuase, more than ten days prior to the first day of the present term > of this court which to the court here appears from an _____ of the > summons issued in this cause and the return _____ of the sheriff of > said Logan County to whom said summons was directed to Execute. And > the said defendant, Eliza C. Pierce having __________ (missed a whole > line), Bill, came not, but herein wolly made default, and the court > having ordered that the said bill or complaint and the matters and > things therein charged and contained be taken as confessed by the said > defendant and the court having heard the oral testimony of witnesses > sworn and examined in open court and also having heard the argument of > counsel and being fully advised in the ________ and on consideration > thereof doth find that this court has jurisdiction of the respective > parties, and the __________ of this suit and that each and everyone > the material allegations in complaintant bill of complaint are true. > That on the day of (blank), A.D. 1860 the complainant and defendant > were lawfully married in Logan County, Illinois, and that they > cohabited and lived together as husband and wife until Tuesday, April > 5th, 1881, that in the evening of the 5th day of April A.D. 1881 at > the house of the complainant in the county of Logan aforesaid and at > divers other times at the _____ place prior to the date last aforesaid > and since, said marriage of the said defendant Eliza C. Pierce has > committed adultery and had sexual intercourse with one Milo L. Pierce, > that the said defendant Eliza C. Pierce is a person wholly unfit to > have the care Custody countrol and education of children. It is > therefore order adjudged and decreed by the court that the marriage > between the complainant and the defendant be dissolved and the ____ is > hereby dissolved accordingly and the said parties are and each of them > is freed from the obligation there of. > It is further ordered adjudged and decreed by the court that the > complainant to have the care custody control and education of the > children named in complainants bill viz- Hiram S. Perice, Wilminnie > Pierce, Wiley M. > Pierce and Fanny Estella Pierce. > It is furthe ordered adjudged and decreed by the court that all of > the interest of said Eliza C. > Pierce, as wife... > > State of Illinois in the Circuit Court Logan Co., to the May Term AD > 1881 Hiram L. Pierce vs Eliza C. Pierce To the Honorable, the > presiding Judge of the Logan County Circuit Court in chancery sitting. > Your orator Hiram L. Pierce of Logan Co. in the State of Illinois in > chancery sitting., humbly complaining respectfully represent and > throws unto your Honor that on the day of _____AD, 1860 at and within > said County of Logan, your orator was lawfully joined in marriage to > one Elize C. Horn (now > Pierce) the defendant here in after named and that ever since his said > marriage hehas been and is now a resident of said Logan County. That > your orator lived and cohabited with the said Eliza C. > Pierce as her husband from > the time of said marriage until Monday, April 5th, 1881, at which time > your orator left the said Eliza C. - that during the whole of his said > married life, your orator has treated the said Eliza C. > Pierce in a proper, kind and > indulgent manner - That on Tuesday April 5, 1881, ____ at said county, > your orator becoming acquainted with the facts _______named set forth > he left the said Eliza C. and has refused to live and cohabit with her > since that time --. > Your orator further represents that on the night of Tuesday, April > 5th, > 1881 at his home in said Logan County and at divers other time at the > same place before the date last aofresaid and since said marriage the > said Eliza C. Pierce in utter disregard and in violation of her > marriage duties and obligations committeed adultry and had sexual > intercourse with one Milo L. > Pierce - Your orator further shows that the said Eliza C. and your > orator have had born until them as the result of said marriage, > children as follows to > wit: > Hirma. S. Pierce, aged 17 years > Wilminnie Pierce aged 14 years, > Wiley M. Pierce aged 11 years, > Fannie Estella Pierce aged 9 years. > All of said children being now alive and residing with your orator in > said Logan County. > For as much there as your orator is without _______ in the premises > exception a court of equity and to this end that the said Eliza C. > Pierce who is made a party defendant to this bill may be required to > make full true and direct answer to the same, though not under oath > - Answer under oath > being waived - And that the saie marriage between your orator and said > Elize C. Pierce may be dissolved and declared null and void by the > decree of this court according to the format of the Statute in such > case made and provided > - that your orator may be decreed the custody, control and education > of said children and that said Eliza C. > Pierce may by decree of this court be forever debarred of all dower > ________ or other statutory right or interest in and to the estate of > your orator. > And your orator prays for _____ children and further asked ______ > relief in the premises as the nature and equities of this case may > require and to your Honor shall seem mute. And your orator prays for > the the___________-in chancery dir______& c_______......Hiram L. > Pierce. > Hoblit, his solicitor. > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, > send to [email protected] If you are receiving messages > in the digest mode, send to [email protected] > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.642 / Virus Database: 410 - Release > Date: 3/24/2004 > > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > === message truncated === ===== Joan Black Lund [email protected] N9SYV ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, send to [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to [email protected] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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Don't know what happened to her nor all of the children. Joan --- Cheryl Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote: > > I don't know and I don't think you can gather > anything from the wording of > pleadings. There's always a way to say something and > make it better [or > worse] than it is. "that during the whole of his > said married life, your > orator has treated the said Eliza C. Pierce in a > proper, kind and indulgent > manner..." We still say garbage like that today and > it is still baloney. <g> > > Hell hath no fury and all that. What happened to her > after that? Did she > marry Milo? Is the attorney Hobbitt or Hoblit? I > suspect Hoblit. > > It's probably "being fully advised in the > premises..." > > Cheryl Rothwell > [email protected] > Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan > Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb > Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joan Lund [mailto:jblgene[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 3:47 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [ILLOGAN] Pierce Divorce > > Think she was set-up? > Joan > > --- Cheryl Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > It's not nice to like your husband's relatives > more than your > > husband??? > > > > Today if she were in default for failure to plead > or appear they > > wouldn't have to hear the testimony. > > > > Cheryl Rothwell > > [email protected] > > Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan > Central IL Regional > > Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, > Lucas, et al > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joan Lund [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 11:53 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [ILLOGAN] Pierce Divorce > > > > Let me know your thought after you read this. > > Joan > > > > State of Illinois in the Circuit Court, Logan Co., > IL to the May Term > > A.D. > > 1881 Hiram L. Pierce vs Eliza C. Pierce, bill for > divorce - > > And now on this day came the complainant Hiram > L. > > Perce by J. T. Hobbit, his solicitor, and this > cause having come to be > > heard upon the bill of complaint herein and the > said defendeant Eliza > > C. Pierce having been duly served with process of > summons in this > > cuase, more than ten days prior to the first day > of the present term > > of this court which to the court here appears from > an _____ of the > > summons issued in this cause and the return _____ > of the sheriff of > > said Logan County to whom said summons was > directed to Execute. And > > the said defendant, Eliza C. Pierce having > __________ (missed a whole > > line), Bill, came not, but herein wolly made > default, and the court > > having ordered that the said bill or complaint and > the matters and > > things therein charged and contained be taken as > confessed by the said > > defendant and the court having heard the oral > testimony of witnesses > > sworn and examined in open court and also having > heard the argument of > > counsel and being fully advised in the ________ > and on consideration > > thereof doth find that this court has jurisdiction > of the respective > > parties, and the __________ of this suit and that > each and everyone > > the material allegations in complaintant bill of > complaint are true. > > That on the day of (blank), A.D. 1860 the > complainant and defendant > > were lawfully married in Logan County, Illinois, > and that they > > cohabited and lived together as husband and wife > until Tuesday, April > > 5th, 1881, that in the evening of the 5th day of > April A.D. 1881 at > > the house of the complainant in the county of > Logan aforesaid and at > > divers other times at the _____ place prior to the > date last aforesaid > > and since, said marriage of the said defendant > Eliza C. Pierce has > > committed adultery and had sexual intercourse with > one Milo L. Pierce, > > that the said defendant Eliza C. Pierce is a > person wholly unfit to > > have the care Custody countrol and education of > children. It is > > therefore order adjudged and decreed by the court > that the marriage > > between the complainant and the defendant be > dissolved and the ____ is > > hereby dissolved accordingly and the said parties > are and each of them > > is freed from the obligation there of. > > It is further ordered adjudged and decreed by the > court that the > > complainant to have the care custody control and > education of the > > children named in complainants bill viz- Hiram S. > Perice, Wilminnie > > Pierce, Wiley M. > > Pierce and Fanny Estella Pierce. > > It is furthe ordered adjudged and decreed by the > court that all of > > the interest of said Eliza C. > > Pierce, as wife... > > > > State of Illinois in the Circuit Court Logan Co., > to the May Term AD > > 1881 Hiram L. Pierce vs Eliza C. Pierce To the > Honorable, the > > presiding Judge of the Logan County Circuit Court > in chancery sitting. > > Your orator Hiram L. Pierce of Logan Co. in the > State of Illinois in > > chancery sitting., humbly complaining respectfully > represent and > > throws unto your Honor that on the day of _____AD, > 1860 at and within > > said County of Logan, your orator was lawfully > joined in marriage to > > one Elize C. Horn (now > > Pierce) the defendant here in after named and that > ever since his said > > marriage hehas been and is now a resident of said > Logan County. That > > your orator lived and cohabited with the said > Eliza C. > > Pierce as her husband from > > the time of said marriage until Monday, April 5th, > 1881, at which time > > your orator left the said Eliza C. - that during > the whole of his said > > married life, your orator has treated the said > Eliza C. > > Pierce in a proper, kind and > > indulgent manner - That on Tuesday April 5, 1881, > ____ at said county, > > your orator becoming acquainted with the facts > _______named set forth > > he left the said Eliza C. and has refused to live > and cohabit with her > > since that time --. > > Your orator further represents that on the night > of Tuesday, April > > 5th, > > 1881 at his home in said Logan County and at > divers other time at the > > same place before the date last aofresaid and > since said marriage the > > said Eliza C. Pierce in utter disregard and in > violation of her > > marriage duties and obligations committeed adultry > and had sexual > > intercourse with one Milo L. > > Pierce - Your orator further shows that the said > Eliza C. and your > > orator have had born until them as the result of > said marriage, > > children as follows to > > wit: > > Hirma. S. Pierce, aged 17 years > > Wilminnie Pierce aged 14 years, > > Wiley M. Pierce aged 11 years, > > Fannie Estella Pierce aged 9 years. > > All of said children being now alive and residing > with === message truncated === ===== Joan Black Lund [email protected] N9SYV