I haven't tried this to see if it works all the time. I'm told it does. If you try it repeatedly and it always works let us know. You need to know the date of death and the age at death, two pieces of information often found on old tombstones. 1. Write the death year, month, day as: -----------> 18890506 2. Subtract the age at death: ----------------> 710709 3. This gives the figure: ------------------------> 18179797 4. Now subtract 8870: --------------------------> 8870 5. The result is: -----------------------------------> 18170927 Year 1817, 9th month (Sept), 27th day or 27 Sept, 1817 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.712 / Virus Database: 468 - Release Date: 6/27/2004