They were strange then. The judge may have determined the mom didn't have the right to the kid since she wasn't married, etc. so her permission was not needed. 1889 - there MIGHT be a birth certificate. I don't know that they thought to change them at that time. On 6/25/07, Marilyn <munderwood@access4less.net> wrote: > > NOOOOO, I wouldn't want it that bad!!! Holy cow, they want the living > too. > > Like I said, I have the adoption decree, but the mothers name isn't on it > nor the wife's maiden name. I was hoping there might be a release paper > signed by the mother - did they do that sort of thing back then? Surely, > she needed to sign 'off' on the baby? But no, don't want to spend > hundreds > of dollars for that. > > Seems my grandfather (mothers dad) was born in 1889, the parents were his > actual father and a girlfriend/mistress/lover (?) and not his wife. > However, he and the wife 'adopted' him. Which seems a bit odd, why > wouldn't > he have just taken the boy without it being legal? But his father use to > take him to a park and 'meet' the pretty lady once in awhile when he was > young - this was all he remembered about it as told to my grandma. > > We don't know the wife's maiden name or any idea what the 'mothers' name > was. That's the only place I could think that might have both their names > listed. > > Thanks again. > Marilyn - Fla. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: illogan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:illogan-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Cheryl Rothwell > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 2:25 PM > To: illogan@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN] Archives Info > > Adoptions are a different issue but it is probably the same process. The > difference is you are working with the county and a county judge. You > would > have to petition him or her to open the records and there is no guarantee > since you have no "compelling" reason. > > Before spending that kind of money -- filling any kind of petition in > Illinois is pretty expensive these days -- I would want to be sure the > file > actually existed. Filing fee could be several hundred dollars. You > probably > don't want it that bad. > > Normally you petition for adoption of X and all adults involved sign off. > If > it was concentual the mother may have signed off or she may just have > appeared in court that long ago. If it was not consentual for whatever > reason she obviously didn't sign. > > On 6/24/07, Marilyn <munderwood@access4less.net> wrote: > > > > Cheryl: > > > > You mention obtaining records that need a 'court order' - how do you go > > about that? I have been trying to get 'application?' papers for an > > adoption > > for several year now and no one seems to know 'how/where' I do > > this. These > > papers would be 118 yrs old. Is that old enough? :o) I have adoption > > papers, but would like to see the papers where the 'mother' signed off > on > > - > > at least I would think there was such a thing? Am I wrong and wasting > my > > time? > > Thanks > > Marilyn - Fla. > > > > > ________ > Logan County ILGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan > > To unsubscribe send a message to: > ILLOGAN-request@Rootsweb.com > with unsubscribe as the subject. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ________ > Logan County ILGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan > > To unsubscribe send a message to: > ILLOGAN-request@Rootsweb.com > with unsubscribe as the subject. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >