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    1. Re: [ILLOGAN] Williams, Lucas, Hoblit, Steenbergen
    2. Fred & JaneAnn Gifford
    3. Are there cemetery books that actually list all of the cemeteries known in the Lincoln, Logan County area and that also note unmarked graves in those cemeteries? I notice on a Logan County website that many cemeteries are listed for that area and many are marked 'closed'. I am assuming these are some of the oldest ones there. Are we still able to find out if an ancestor has been buried there? Thanks for any help. JaneAnn Member: Lee County Florida Genealogy Society Surnames: Robinson (robertson, robenson), Green, Craven ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Rothwell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 1:35 PM Subject: [ILLOGAN] Williams, Lucas, Hoblit, Steenbergen > This is an old query. > > John Williams was born c 1814 in Blout County, TN. He married Marcy Jane > Lucas [daughter of Thomas Lucas and Sarah Hoblit] in 1831 in Sangamon now > Logan County. John Williams died in Logan County in 1844 or thereafter. > His > last child was born Sept. 20, 1844. Researcher Shauna Davis is searching > for > more information on John Williams, including death date and burial place, > and his ancestors. > > John Williams could be buried at Steenbergen. It is known that there are > burials that no marker exists for at Steenbergen. Unfortunately, it is > also > known that at one point a person removed some of the oldest markers and > used > them for other purposes. It is unknown how many markers or whose markers. > > Cheryl Rothwell > [email protected] > Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan > Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb > Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.745 / Virus Database: 497 - Release Date: 8/27/2004 > > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, send to > [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the > digest mode, send to [email protected] > >

    09/25/2004 12:02:48
    1. RE: [ILLOGAN] Williams, Lucas, Hoblit, Steenbergen
    2. Cheryl Rothwell
    3. I am pretty sure the web site lists all the known cemeteries. Some of them may have additional names I'm not aware of. There are probably small burial sites that were plowed over. We don't know that for a fact but it is highly likely. How would you prepare a list of unmarked graves? There are many, many unmarked graves at Lucas Chapel, for example. They were obviously marked at one time -- you see a lot of smooth stones where something broke off -- but time has taken its toll. And I am sure there are graves that were just unmarked from the beginning. If you are asking if someone kept records of burials from day one in every cemetery the answer is no. Sometimes cemeteries developed because the locals had already buried a couple people there and they decided it might as well be the cemetery for all. Closed isn't my term. I used active and inactive. Joan -- do you list them as closed? I wouldn't assume the inactive ones are the oldest ones. I imagine Turley is the oldest one [don't take that as a fact] and it is inactive but Lucas Chapel and Steenbergen are also pretty old and they are still active. Bowers Templeman is older than the county and you can still buried there although it is not common. There are others. Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.745 / Virus Database: 497 - Release Date: 8/27/2004

    09/25/2004 01:31:53
    1. RE: [ILLOGAN] Williams, Lucas, Hoblit, Steenbergen
    2. Joan Lund
    3. The Illinois State Genealogical Society uses the terms active, inactive, and despoiled. Despoiled means that it was known that a cemetery exited there at one time but has been plowed over or disappeared with time. Sometimes a despoiled site can change to inactive and we have had inactive ones become active. I plan to work on one this fall in Mason County that has all but disappeared but the plot has been fenced off for years. ===== Joan Black Lund [email protected] http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~joanlund/

    09/30/2004 03:15:24