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    1. Re: [ILLOGAN] Parents of Susan/Susanna Salts
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: seggelke Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1549.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Steve: Here is link to more current (maybe too current)court cases in Logan county: http://www.judici.com/courts/cases/case_search.jsp?court=IL054025J That's about all the links I've come across for Court info. Barb Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/04/2007 08:18:20
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN] Chancery Notice
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: thegenealogysleuth Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1580.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Depending on the time and place, probably something as simple as a posting/notice of something being filed in civil court of equity. Sometimes it could be anything - divorce, lawsuit of some kind, etc. Other times it really meant bankruptcy. In another context it has to do with church courts. I don't think that applies here. If you are getting through IRAD get all the documents. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/04/2007 07:59:05
    1. [ILLOGAN] Message Boards
    2. Cheryl Rothwell
    3. Have you tried the message boards at GenForum? http://genforum.genealogy.com/il/logan/ While some people read all the boards in general they have a different audience so it is good to post your query to several boards. Cheryl Rothwell

    05/04/2007 04:16:41
    1. [ILLOGAN] Chancery Notice
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Steve_Royce Surnames: Beaver, Preston, Green, Bateman, Lee, Burnhoffs Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1580/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I may be able to obtain a "Chancery Notice" on my Logan County ancestors and their acquaintances: Axariah W. Beaver, Jackson Preston, Ruth Green, Susan Bateman, Harry Lee, and Maggie Burnhoffs. What is a "Chancery Notice?" Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/03/2007 10:04:51
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN] Parents of Susan/Susanna Salts
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Steve_Royce Surnames: Thompson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1549.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks, Barb. I checked out the link and did find many Thompsons, but not mine. Perhaps he was convicted after 1945, or maybe it never happened (at least in Logan County) at all. Are there any other on-line databases or indices for post 1945? If not, any other suggestions for a distant neighbor to find criminal records? Gratefully, Steve Royce Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/03/2007 09:42:12
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN] Charles Munyon Obituary - 5 May 1961
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mlsnino_1 Surnames: Manley.Munyon, Mckee, Netherly Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/788.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Am trying to find information on grgrandparents Benjamin Manley, and Sarah McKee Logan County, Il. also their daughter and my Grgrandmother Effie Manley. My grandmother was Belle Netherly. I was told that Martha Manley Charles Munyon's mother was also Effie Manley's sister. Any help would be appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/03/2007 03:49:12
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN] Chancery Notice
    2. cheryl kale
    3. I have no idea what a chancery notice is either, but if you have Enoch Preston or Mitchell Preston in your line I have info to share with you. Cheryl Kale: I may be able to obtain a "Chancery Notice" on my Logan County ancestors and their acquaintances: Axariah W. Beaver, Jackson Preston, Ruth Green, Susan Bateman, Harry Lee, and Maggie Burnhoffs. What is a "Chancery Notice?" --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

    05/03/2007 03:44:13
    1. [ILLOGAN] Peck
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: thegenealogysleuth Surnames: Peck Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1555.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: That's interesting. Did you check for the death certificate? It might have more detailed information. It could be suicide too. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/03/2007 03:14:16
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN] Ruth Peck
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lindapugh9025 Surnames: Peck Scott Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1555.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ollie Scott Peck died June 1, 1897 in Bloomington, Illinois.(Age 36) Residence was 814 North Oak Street at the time. Burial location is Atlanta, Illinois which is the home town of her family. Father was Simon Scott and mother Nancy. Sisters were Sarah, Addie, and Fern. They are found in the 1880 Fed. Census in Atlanta Township, Logan County, Illinois. Does anyone know which sister was killed by the train (in Atlanta I believe)? I also believe the sister was killed by the train when she was an adult. Ollie was killed June 1, 1897 when she handled a 38-calibre revolver. (Trying to move it? Or?) I'd sure like to know the details. I'd also like to know if anyone remembers Ruth Peck as a teacher. Ruth died in about 1981. Linda Pugh Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/03/2007 02:47:34
    1. [ILLOGAN] Illinois Online State Archives Site
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: seggelke Surnames: Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1579/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Just in case anyone isn't aware of this online site (the ILLINOIS STATE ARCHIVES)..it is a wealth of information, if you take the time to search through all it's information. A lot of links on different county pages link to this site, but just in case someone has missed out, try out this site for you Illinois research. http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/archives.html Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/03/2007 11:22:27
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN] Parents of Susan/Susanna Salts
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: seggelke Surnames: Thompson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1549.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If you go to this online site you can do a search of old Logan county Circuit court cases: then you send off request for the info and after you wait a bit (mine took 6 months) you get it in the mail with small charge (10c a page) for the info. Very easy. Here is web site: http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/logan.html I'll keep my eyes open for Thompson's when I search for my own ancestors...Let you know if I run across any more info for you. Nice talking. Barb Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/03/2007 11:16:19
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN] IRAD UPDATE
    2. Cheryl Rothwell
    3. Slap me! It's at the bottom of the database page. I never scroll that far! No wonder I couldn't find it. I knew I had seen it but I just couldn't find it again. That will teach me to read to the bottom. On 5/3/07, cheryl kale <cheryl_kale2000@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi Cheryl and List, > > I shouldn't do these so late at night; I thought I had given everyone the main link so they could see all the online indices. Instead I patched you into the logan criminal court index. I'm sorry if this has caused any confusion. > > The online indices are called DATABASES The other link you want is called IRAD HOLDINGS . You will see these at the top of the screen. Steve, the State has holdings separate from IRAD; you find a link called ISA HOLDINGS. Scroll down to Department of Corrections, and it will show the records they hold. > > Main link is: www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html > > I hope I've helped this time. > > Cheryl Kale

    05/03/2007 07:36:33
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN] Parents of Susan/Susanna Salts
    2. Cheryl Rothwell
    3. Cheryl - There are several searchable databases of the IRAD holdings for counties -- not all of the holdings but I think there is more than than the criminal record [although I may be confusing it with Sangamon]. Do you know how you know the main link to those or how to get to them? I had it once but not anymore. Cheryl Rothwell

    05/03/2007 03:37:53
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN] Parents of Susan/Susanna Salts
    2. Cheryl Rothwell
    3. Let me make an addendum. If you are looking for someome before 1839 you need to check the Sangamon files. And Sangamon, in my experience, has fast turnover on requests. ISU is particularly slow for some reason. For marriage and death records, if IRAD has them, getting them from IRAD is significantly less expensive than from the county clerk. At this time IRAD does not have an out of state fee. Cheryl Rothwell On 5/2/07, cheryl kale <cheryl_kale2000@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi Steve, and List, > > This might be a good time to review what Illinois does provide to assist us in our research. > > There are 7 regional archives located at universities throughout the state. The holder of Logan County records, is Illinois State University. Please note that each regional archive only holds what the county wanted to give up. Some counties gave up everything, while Logan and others gave up very little. There is an online index to the criminal court records for Logan 1857-1945. There are quite a few Thompsons on it, but no Robert or Bobby. Still, he might have committed the crime after 1945. > The url is: > www.ilsos.gov/GenealogyMWeb/logansrch.html > > On this page are all the online indices that are available. While you're at that site, browse them all, you'll never know what you might find, even if you think they never left Logan. > > If you go to the top of the page, you'll see a link called IRAD HOLDINGS. If you select that it will take you to another page. Select Logan and you'll find all the records that are stored for Logan. You can do that for each county in the state. These are not online, but there is a section that tells you how to order records. Be prepared for a long wait if you obtain them from IRAD. ISU is over a month behind, and is not even answering the phone; they have a recorder on. I've recently had great luck with Logan County; their turnaround was under a week. > > Enjoy! > > Cheryl Kale > > P.S BARB: You are so RIGHT! > While helping Steve just now, I found Mclean has some online indexes I never realized before. I just found a succeeding Hammon generation. What goes around comes around?

    05/03/2007 03:33:13
    1. [ILLOGAN] IRAD UPDATE
    2. cheryl kale
    3. Hi Cheryl and List, I shouldn't do these so late at night; I thought I had given everyone the main link so they could see all the online indices. Instead I patched you into the logan criminal court index. I'm sorry if this has caused any confusion. The online indices are called DATABASES The other link you want is called IRAD HOLDINGS . You will see these at the top of the screen. Steve, the State has holdings separate from IRAD; you find a link called ISA HOLDINGS. Scroll down to Department of Corrections, and it will show the records they hold. Main link is: www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html I hope I've helped this time. Cheryl Kale Cheryl Rothwell <historysleuth@gmail.com> wrote: Cheryl - There are several searchable databases of the IRAD holdings for counties -- not all of the holdings but I think there is more than than the criminal record [although I may be confusing it with Sangamon]. Do you know how you know the main link to those or how to get to them? I had it once but not anymore. Cheryl Rothwell ________ Logan County ILGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan This message is delivered to user_address. ________ To unsubscribe send a message to: ILLOGAN-request@Rootsweb.com with unsubscribe as the subject. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

    05/03/2007 03:21:32
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN] Parents of Susan/Susanna Salts
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Steve_Royce Surnames: Thompson, Salts, Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1549.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you, Barb. I knew of the family records in the 1860 US Census in Lincoln, Logan County, IL. However, I really do appreciate your collection of the tombstone records. I wish that there was an age or a birth year for Lemuel Thompson as he is a direct ancestor of mine. I have conflicting death information about MY Lemuel Thompson born in 1835 in Harrison, Vinton County, Ohio of parents Stewart Thompson and Susanna Salts. I'll bet that this is MY Lemuel, but I'm looking for confirmation. Regarding Alred Thompson, I'm thinking that the tombstone records a different Alfred Thompson than the 1860 US Census. Note the difference in birth years. There could be a mistake on the headstone. Again, too bad there is no notation of parents or birthdate. As for Alfred's criminal record, I was hoping for something more dramatic of my ancestors. I heard that a Robert "Bobby" Thompson born around 1922 may have served time for rape. Do you know where I can get either court records or prison records on-line? If not, where could I write for them? I'll keep an eye out for more on Alfred Thompson for you, too. Thanks again. Sincerely, Steve Royce Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/02/2007 08:57:38
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN] Parents of Susan/Susanna Salts
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Steve_Royce Surnames: Thompson, Salts, Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1549.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you, Barb. I knew of the family records in the 1860 US Census in Lincoln, Logan County, IL. However, I really do appreciate your collection of the tombstone records. I wish that there was an age or a birth year for Lemuel Thompson as he is a direct ancestor of mine. I have conflicting death information about MY Lemuel Thompson born in 1835 in Harrison, Vinton County, Ohio of parents Stewart Thompson and Susanna Salts. I'll bet that this is MY Lemuel, but I'm looking for confirmation. Regarding Alred Thompson, I'm thinking that the tombstone records a different Alfred Thompson than the 1860 US Census. Note the difference in birth years. There could be a mistake on the headstone. Again, too bad there is no notation of parents or birthdate. As for Alfred's criminal record, I was hoping for something more dramatic of my ancestors. I heard that a Robert "Bobby" Thompson born around 1922 may have served time for rape. Do you know where I can get either court records or prison records on-line? If not, where could I write for them? I'll keep an eye out for more on Alfred Thompson for you, too. Thanks again. Sincerely, Steve Royce Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/02/2007 08:57:35
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN] Parents of Susan/Susanna Salts
    2. cheryl kale
    3. Hi Steve, and List, This might be a good time to review what Illinois does provide to assist us in our research. There are 7 regional archives located at universities throughout the state. The holder of Logan County records, is Illinois State University. Please note that each regional archive only holds what the county wanted to give up. Some counties gave up everything, while Logan and others gave up very little. There is an online index to the criminal court records for Logan 1857-1945. There are quite a few Thompsons on it, but no Robert or Bobby. Still, he might have committed the crime after 1945. The url is: www.ilsos.gov/GenealogyMWeb/logansrch.html On this page are all the online indices that are available. While you're at that site, browse them all, you'll never know what you might find, even if you think they never left Logan. If you go to the top of the page, you'll see a link called IRAD HOLDINGS. If you select that it will take you to another page. Select Logan and you'll find all the records that are stored for Logan. You can do that for each county in the state. These are not online, but there is a section that tells you how to order records. Be prepared for a long wait if you obtain them from IRAD. ISU is over a month behind, and is not even answering the phone; they have a recorder on. I've recently had great luck with Logan County; their turnaround was under a week. Enjoy! Cheryl Kale P.S BARB: You are so RIGHT! While helping Steve just now, I found Mclean has some online indexes I never realized before. I just found a succeeding Hammon generation. What goes around comes around? "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Steve_Royce Surnames: Thompson, Salts, Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1549.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you, Barb. I knew of the family records in the 1860 US Census in Lincoln, Logan County, IL. However, I really do appreciate your collection of the tombstone records. I wish that there was an age or a birth year for Lemuel Thompson as he is a direct ancestor of mine. I have conflicting death information about MY Lemuel Thompson born in 1835 in Harrison, Vinton County, Ohio of parents Stewart Thompson and Susanna Salts. I'll bet that this is MY Lemuel, but I'm looking for confirmation. Regarding Alred Thompson, I'm thinking that the tombstone records a different Alfred Thompson than the 1860 US Census. Note the difference in birth years. There could be a mistake on the headstone. Again, too bad there is no notation of parents or birthdate. As for Alfred's criminal record, I was hoping for something more dramatic of my ancestors. I heard that a Robert "Bobby" Thompson born around 1922 may have served time for rape. Do you know where I can get either court records or prison records on-line? If not, where could I write for them? I'll keep an eye out for more on Alfred Thompson for you, too. Thanks again. Sincerely, Steve Royce Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ________ Logan County ILGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan This message is delivered to user_address. ________ To unsubscribe send a message to: ILLOGAN-request@Rootsweb.com with unsubscribe as the subject. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

    05/02/2007 02:39:57
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN] FLEMING
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: seggelke Surnames: Fleming (Flemming) Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1548.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In the History of Logan County, Illinois 1878, Published: Donnelley, Loyd & Co. 1871 page500, Hurlbutt Township: Flemming Patrick, farmer, Sec. 11; P.O.Elkhart; dem. Cath; from Ireland. that's all I found in my reference books. You don't have a firm death date on Patrick or Bridget where someone might look up an obit for you? Hope the little tibit helps..it did mention he came from Ireland. Barb Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/02/2007 11:50:00
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN] Parents of Susan/Susanna Salts
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: seggelke Surnames: Thompson, Salts, Steenrod, Burrows, Lee Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1549.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: 1860 Census Illinois: Logan county: Lincoln Pr.Page # 123: 910/916 Stewart Thompson 55 m Farmer Ohio Susan 45 f Ohio Wm 21 m Ohio Alfred 19 m ohio Bellier 16 F Ohio Lemuel 14 M Ohio Amos 12 M Ohio John 7 M IL Jonothan 4 M IL In my Old Union Cemetery (Lincoln, IL..Logan co) there is the following Thompson's that I believe match yours: William Thompson b. ohio d. June 7, 1913 aged 75 yrs 3 mo 25 days Civil War-Army Pvt. Co. H. 7th Il Inf. Willie Thompson (son of Amos & F.C.) d. Aug 4, 1881 aged 10 yrs. 5 mo. 4 days. Lemuel Thompson d. Oct. 22, 1882 aged 38 yrs. Jonathan Thompson d. April 28, 1887 aged 31 yrs. Alfred Thompsons d. March 15, 1890 aged 56 yrs. there are many more Thompson's buried there but these are ones you can pinpoint to your ancestors. I had a Sarah C. Steenrod/Burrows/LEE..Thompson ..ggg grandmother who is my BRICK WALL!! I know she married an Alfred Thompson in Logan county, Il on June 1, 1871. This was her 3rd marraige. And she seemed to have trouble with men. In trying to pinpoint which Alfred Thompson is her spouse (NOT much LUCK yet)..I found an Alfred Thompson.. from Lincoln who had a least two scraps with the law... I sent for court papers...hard to read them..very hard..but from what I could make out he rode his fathers horse up to a neighbors house and stole a TURKEY and rode of real quick..but people saw him and he had to go to court. So I'm not sure if We share the same Alfred Thompson or not. It's been my brick wall so I don't know much..I believe he also divorced my Sarah Cornelia Steenrod and remarried a Elizabeth Miller on Aug 17, 1881. Well hope some of this info may help you. If I figure out anything more on the ALFRED Thompson mystery I'll let you know. You might take a peak at Dewitt County..for some reason I think(memory?) that Alfred had some connection to Dewitt Co. also..maybe some of the family moved on to that county in later years?? JUST a thought. Barb Seggelke Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/02/2007 11:31:27