They were strange then. The judge may have determined the mom didn't have the right to the kid since she wasn't married, etc. so her permission was not needed. 1889 - there MIGHT be a birth certificate. I don't know that they thought to change them at that time. On 6/25/07, Marilyn <munderwood@access4less.net> wrote: > > NOOOOO, I wouldn't want it that bad!!! Holy cow, they want the living > too. > > Like I said, I have the adoption decree, but the mothers name isn't on it > nor the wife's maiden name. I was hoping there might be a release paper > signed by the mother - did they do that sort of thing back then? Surely, > she needed to sign 'off' on the baby? But no, don't want to spend > hundreds > of dollars for that. > > Seems my grandfather (mothers dad) was born in 1889, the parents were his > actual father and a girlfriend/mistress/lover (?) and not his wife. > However, he and the wife 'adopted' him. Which seems a bit odd, why > wouldn't > he have just taken the boy without it being legal? But his father use to > take him to a park and 'meet' the pretty lady once in awhile when he was > young - this was all he remembered about it as told to my grandma. > > We don't know the wife's maiden name or any idea what the 'mothers' name > was. That's the only place I could think that might have both their names > listed. > > Thanks again. > Marilyn - Fla. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: illogan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:illogan-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Cheryl Rothwell > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 2:25 PM > To: illogan@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN] Archives Info > > Adoptions are a different issue but it is probably the same process. The > difference is you are working with the county and a county judge. You > would > have to petition him or her to open the records and there is no guarantee > since you have no "compelling" reason. > > Before spending that kind of money -- filling any kind of petition in > Illinois is pretty expensive these days -- I would want to be sure the > file > actually existed. Filing fee could be several hundred dollars. You > probably > don't want it that bad. > > Normally you petition for adoption of X and all adults involved sign off. > If > it was concentual the mother may have signed off or she may just have > appeared in court that long ago. If it was not consentual for whatever > reason she obviously didn't sign. > > On 6/24/07, Marilyn <munderwood@access4less.net> wrote: > > > > Cheryl: > > > > You mention obtaining records that need a 'court order' - how do you go > > about that? I have been trying to get 'application?' papers for an > > adoption > > for several year now and no one seems to know 'how/where' I do > > this. These > > papers would be 118 yrs old. Is that old enough? :o) I have adoption > > papers, but would like to see the papers where the 'mother' signed off > on > > - > > at least I would think there was such a thing? Am I wrong and wasting > my > > time? > > Thanks > > Marilyn - Fla. > > > > > ________ > Logan County ILGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan > > To unsubscribe send a message to: > ILLOGAN-request@Rootsweb.com > with unsubscribe as the subject. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ________ > Logan County ILGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan > > To unsubscribe send a message to: > ILLOGAN-request@Rootsweb.com > with unsubscribe as the subject. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: thegenealogysleuth Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/754.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Just a note. That is NOT an accurate and complete list of the early settlers of Logan County but a list that was in the 1878 history. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: thegenealogysleuth Surnames: Patterson, Morrow, Downing, Frakes Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/135.136.288.300.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: That's who I have as their parents also. Franklin was the son of Moses Patterson who was the son of William. Franklin's brother William married Elizabeth Morrow. Elizabeth Morrow is the daughter of James Morrow and Hannah Downing. Hannah is the daughter of John and Hannah Frakes Downing. James is the brother of Jane and Ruth, the three Morrows who married John Downing children. Thus -- and this may make sense only to Sherry -- it is probably accurate that those are indeed the parents. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: thegenealogysleuth Surnames: Martin, Downing Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1586.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There are Martins in Logan County from the early days, some living in the same area as the Downings and their relatives. I don't know if they are connected to each other or not. It's a common enough name. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Megan Smolenyak, one of the premier genealogists on DNA testing, was on NPR's Science Friday last week. If you go to this page: http://www.sciencefriday.com/feed/ You can download Genes and Genealogy [right click and "save link as" to save it or just click on download to listen now] and hear it. It probably won't be there forever.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: EttaR_Maroni Surnames: Maccarrone Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/426.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am researching Maccarrone from Adrano, Catania, Sicily, Italy. My Grandfather Giuseppi was born 19 march 1887. He was married 25 june 1910. His spouse was Angelina Gullotta. He died in Syracuse, New York as Joe Maroni on 20 June 1955. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sherryk180 Surnames: Shoup, Downing, Conrad, Davenport, Schaub, Galliford, Pancake Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/135.136.134.300/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Power: Early Settlers of Sangamon County, IL: Jacob and Sarah [Downing] Shoup left Pennsylvania and settled in Pickaway County, OH where their 16 children were born, each of whom lived to be at least 26 years old. The family moved to Sangamon County, IL and settled in Ball Township, in the autumn of 1831. Their children: 1. John 1802/03-1865 m. Hannah Martin 1829 Pickaway Co OH; 2. Mary 1804-1885 m James A. Fletcher 1837 Sangamon Co IL; 3. Jacob 1805-1832 b & d Pickaway Co OH; 4. Sarah 1807-c.1868 unmarried; 5. Thomas 1808-1857 m Rachel Anderson 1830 Pickaway Co OH; 6. Eliza 1810-1857 m Wm. Gulliford 1833 Sangamon Co IL, to OR 1852; 7. Maria 1812-c. 1876, m David Brunk 1833 Sangamon Co IL; 8. Timothy 1813-1850, m Mary Keys, Sangamon Co IL; 9. Elizabeth 1815-1886, m Barnett Ramsey 1836 Sangamon Co IL, to OR 1852; 10. Delilah I. 1817-1870, m Elijah Bradshaw 1852 Sangamon Co IL; 11. Alexander 1819-fall 1856, m Mary J. Wilkinson, Sangamon Co IL; 12. Dorcas 1821-1908, m Thomas Lavelock 1891, Sangamon Co IL, to Ray County, MO; 13. Henry 1822-1914, m Ruth Knotts, Sangamon County, IL; 14. Nancy 1824- ? , m Joseph Penn, Sangamon County, IL, to Dallas County, TX; 15. Samuel Newton 1827 - 1886 m Alice J. Mourer 1857 Sangamon County, IL; 16. Melissa A. 1829-1855 m Philemon Stout, Sangamon County, IL. 1810 Pickaway County, OH Tax List: Jacob Shoup [the only Shoup listed]. 1813 Pickaway County, OH Deed Book A, page 510: On May 1, 1813 Jacob Shoup purchased from his parents for $200 80 acres in Walnut Township, Pickaway County, OH NW1/4, R21, Section 27. He lived there at the time. His brother Thomas Shoup bought the NE1/2 at the same time. 1815 Pickaway County, OH Deed Book B, page 539: Jacob Shoup bought from Adam Conrad and wife the NE1/4, R1, T9, Section 28. He and Sarah sold this property to Charles Davenport August 18, 1832, recorded in Deed Book J, page 484. 1816 Pickaway County, OH Tax List: Jacob Schaub Jacob Schaub Thomas Schaub Jacob Schaub, Jr. 1820 US Census, Pickaway County, OH, Walnut Township, with possible identification: Jacob Shoup, farmer, 3 in the family engaged in agriculture 3 males under 10 [-----, Alexander, Timothy] 1 male 10-16 [Thomas] 1 male 16-18 [Jacob or John] 1 male 16-26 [Jacob or John] 1 male 26-45 [Jacob Shoup, Jr., the father] 4 females under 10 [Delilah, Elizabeth, Maria, Eliza] 2 females 10-16 [Sarah, Mary] 1 female 26-45 [Sarah (Downing) Shoup, the mother]. 1830 US Census, Pickaway County, OH, Walnut Township: Jacob Shoup 2 males 5-9 [Samuel, Henry] 1 male 10-14 [Alexander] 1 male 15-19 [Timothy] 2 males 20-29 [Jacob, Thomas] 1 male 40-49 [Jacob Shoup, the father] 1 female under 5 [Melissa] 2 females 5-9 [Dorcas, Nancy] 1 female 10-14 [Delilah] 2 females 15-19 [Maria, Elizabeth] 3 females 20-29 [Mary, Sarah, Eliza] 1 female 40-49 [Sarah nee Downing, the mother]. Pickaway County, OH Marriages include: Elizabeth Shoup - John Wingate license issued 3 October 1830 Mary Shoup - Abraham Pancake license issued 23 June 1832 Susannah Shoup - Nicholas Hartman license issued 7 February 1835. 1840 US Census, Sangamon County, IL Jacob Shoup 00102001//01220001, 4 in agriculture. 1850 US Mortality Census, Sangamon County, IL: Jacob Shoup, 68, born PA Timothy Shoup, 31, born OH Sarah Shoup 67, born PA John Galliford 72, born PA. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sherryk180 Surnames: Shoup, Downing, Fletcher, Martin, Patterson, Scroggins, Frakes, Gulliford, Houchins, Johnson, Morrow, Vandeventer, Bowen, Edwards, Anstine Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/754.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: John Shoup settled under the shelter of the timber on the north side of Salt Creek in Logan County, IL in 1832. His house was the seat of government until the county seat was named at Postville. He served on the board of county commissioners in the 1830s, as captain of the militia, as Justice of the Peace, and as elected associate judge in the county from 1861 until he died. He was a Democrat, later Republican, and voted for Abraham Lincoln in 1864. 1830 US Census, Pickaway County, OH, Walnut Township: John Shoup 1 male 20-29 1 female 20-29 1 female under 5. A list of people who settled in Logan County before 1840 according to the 1878 History of Logan County, IL, transcribed by Marge Farmer. Before 1839 the area was Sangamon County. -----http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/oldset.htm Downing, Robert Salt Creek 1821 Living Downing, James Salt Creek 1821 Living Downing, John E. Born in County 1826 Living Downing, James Salt Creek 1824 Living England, John Rev. Lake Fork 1819 Living Fletcher, Mrs. Thomas Salt Creek 1828 Living Fletcher, Thomas Salt Creek 1834 Living Martin, Samuel Salt Creek 1830 Living Martin, Mrs. Samuel Salt Creek 1832 Living Matthew, Thomas Salt Creek 1839 Dead Matthew, Lafayette Kickapoo 1830 Living Matthew, William Salt Creek 1838 Living Matthew, Mrs. Wm. Salt Creek 1830 Living McCoy, Isaiah T. Lake Fork 1821 Living Patterson, Milton Salt Creek 1834 Living Rankin, Isaac N. Menard Co. 1837 Living Scroggin, L. K. Lake Fork 1827 Living Scroggin, Russell Lake Fork 1822 Living Scroggins, John Lake Fork 1812 Living Scroggins, Mrs. Phoebe Lake Fork 1826 Dead Scroggins, L. Sr. Lake Fork 1828 Living. 1840 US Census, Logan County, IL: John Shoup 000001//310001, one engaged in agriculture; 1840 US Census Index, Logan County, IL - http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/Logan1840.htm: Bell, Baily F. 237A Capp, Jabez 235A Chineth, Noah 243A Collins, Hugh 236A Collins, Joseph 236A Downing, Hannah 247A Downing, James 241A Downing, Josiah 240A Downing, Robert 240A Edwards, Hiram 237A Edwards, John 244A Edwards, John M. 247A Edwards, Wilson M. 237A England, John 237A Fletcher, Eli 240A Fletcher, Margaret 240A Fletcher, Thomas J. 237A Fletcher, Thomas P. 244A Foster, Samuel 243A Foster, Samuel 246A Foster, Squire 242A Fraikes, William 242A Frakes, Dawson 237A Frakes, Robert 241A Frakes, William Sr. 240A French, Asa 248A Gillet, John G. 236A Gulliford, William 235A Houchins, Jefferson 246A Houchins, Preston 246A Houchins, William 246A Hutchins, William 246A Jackson, James 240A Jackson, William 242A Johnson, Elizabeth 246A Johnson, Henry 247A Johnson, Levi 247A Johnson, Nathaniel P. 246A Lantis, Daniel 244A Lantis, Martin K. 244A Lucas, Abraham 242A Lucas, Elijah 248A Lucas, George B. 236A Lucas, George M. P. 239A Lucas, Hannah 236A Lucas, John 235A Lucas, John 235A Lucas, Nancy 247A Lucas, Thomas 236A Lucas, William 242A Martin, Drury 236A Martin, John Sr. 239A Martin, John Sr. 247A Martin, Samuel 241A Martin, Samuel 247A Martin, Samuel G. 238A Mathews, Thomas C. 247A Mathews, William 248A Moore, Moses 241A Moore, Nicholas 241A Moore, Stephen 248A Morrow, James 241A Patterson, Moses 247A Rankin, Edmund 239A Roberts, Philip 241A Robinson, Barton 235A Robinson, John 237A Scroggins, Carter 242A Scroggins, John 242A Scroggins, Leonard 243A Scroggins, Thomas J. 242A Shoup, John 240A Shoup, Thomas 237A Sutten, David S. 244A Sutten, Elizabeth 243A Suttle, John 244A Sutton, John C. 238A Vandeventer, Abraham 235A Vandeventer, John 247A Vandeventer, Thomas 247A Vandeventer, William 247A Weaver, Elijah E. 239A © Earliene Kaelin 1999 All rights reserved. No portion of this document may be used for any commercial purpose without the prior written consent of the copyright owner. 1840 US Census Index, Sangamon County, IL: Jacob Shoup. 1850 US Census, Logan County, IL #507-514: John Shoup, 47, PA, farmer, $4,400 Hannah Shoup, 44, OH Angeline Shoup, 20, OH Rosane Shoup, 18, OH Mary Shoup, 14, IL Sarah Shoup, 12, IL Monroe Shoup, 9, IL Delila Shoup, 7, IL Jerome Shoup, 5, IL Nancy E. Shoup, 2, IL. 1850 US Census Index, Logan County, IL [A - M] - http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/Logan1850.htm: Bacon, Ahen S. 226B Bacon, Lamarcus 226B Bowen, Ezra 175B Bowen, Sarah 220A Bowers, David 199A Bowles, David 217B Bowles, Jesse 217B Bowles, Joseph 206A Bowman, Ezekiel 184B Bowman, Mary 189A Bowman, Rosannah 220B Buckles, John 192A Buckles, Robert 190A Buckles, William 191B Collins, Elizabeth 195B Collins, Joseph 192B Collins, Thomas 195A Collins, Thornberry 214A Downey, James 222A Downing, George 207A Downing, James 206B Downing, John M. 177A Downing, Josiah 204A Downing, Robert 206B Downing, Samuel 197A Downing, Thomas 197A Downing, Timothy 197A England, John 186A Fletcher, Eli 204B Fletcher, James 203B Fletcher, Ruann 208B Fletcher, Thomas 204B Fletcher, William 214A Fraikes, Dawson 196A Fraikes, Robert 198A Fraikes, William 186A Fraikes,, William 206B French, Hannah 196B French, Martha 219A French, Tillelia(?) 223A Houchin, Asbery 211A Houchin, Ewing 211B Houchin, Jefferson 211A Houchin, William 211A Houchins, William J. 211B Jacaway, Elizabeth 207A Jacaway, J.B. 206B Key, Jane 196B Key, William 197A Keys, Charles 182A Lantis, Daniel 220B Lantis, Martin 170B Lark, Samuel 211A Larrison, Abel 216A Larrison, Julia A. 216B Larrison, Theopholis 213A Larrison, Thomas J. 214A Leeds, Timothy 177B Martin, Alexander 214A Martin, Drury 194B Martin, James P. 215A Martin, John 172A Martin, John 197A Martin, Rebecca, 206A Martin, Samuel 203B Martin, Samuel G. 169B Martin, Zachariah 171A Mathews, Charles 224B Mathews, Charles 227B Mathews, Fedelia 228A Matthews, David M. 196B Matthews, Eli 214B Matthews, Isreal 196A Matthews, Thomas 183B Matthews, William 183B Morris, Andrew 171A Morris, Elijah 171A Morris, William 172A Morrow, Alexander 180A Morrow, Elizabeth 194B Morrow, George P. 200B Morrow, Harvey 206B Morrow, James 206B Morrow, John 206B Morrow, Mariah 196B Patterson, Daniel 200A Patterson, Franklin 197B Patterson, James C. 167A Patterson, John G. 200A Patterson, Moses 197B Patterson, William 197A Ripley, James 199B Roberts, George 207A Roberts, Henry 197B Roberts, John 206B Robinson, Barton 181A Robinson, George 180A Robinson, Sarah 201B Robinson, William 193B Scoggin, Thomas 178A Scroggin, John 182A Scroggins, Alfred 195A Scroggins, Carter 189B Scroggins, Franklin 191B Scroggins, Leonard 189B Scroggins, Leonard 191B Scroggins, Russel 192A Shoup, John 203B Shoup, Thomas 203A Silvers, Jacob 217B Stallings, Silas 192B Stallings, William 196A Thompkins, James J. 206B Thompkins, Simon 206B Turley, Charles 186B Turley, David K. 190B Turley, G.W. 178A Turley, G.W. 185A Turley, George 196B Turley, James O. 186A Turley, Martha Jane 190A Turley, Samuel 190A Turley, Sarah 185B Turley, Thomas 191B Turley, William R. 185A Vandeventer, Andrew 196B Vandeventer, James 196B Vandeventer, John 200A Witter, David 202A Witter, Joshua 203A Witter, Sarah Ann 196B Witter, Sarah Ann 207A © Earliene Kaelin 1999 All rights reserved. No portion of this document may be used for any commercial purpose without the prior written consent of the copyright owner. 1860 US Census, Logan County, IL #1366-1399: John Shoup, 57, PA, $15,000 Hannah Shoup, 54, OH Rosean Shoup, 28, OH Monroe Shoup, 19, IL Delia Shoup, 17, IL Jerome Shoup, 16, IL Nancy E. Shoup, 14, IL Kate Bowers, 50, OH, [farm supt., head of household] Samuel Bowers, 19, OH. Nan [Morrow] Golliher, daughter of John Morrow and Mary [Shoup] Morrow, of Logan County, IL and Sherman County, OR, wrote about her mother's father, "Grandpa Shoup's homestead in Logan County, IL near Mt. Pulaski was where we lived for a while. Settled sometime in the middle 1800s on Salt Creek. The farm consisted of a wooded patch, cornfields, wheat and a meadow, an orchard and a lane along Salt Creek to the barn lot. John Shoup was a judge and lawyer in Pennsylvania [not proved] and took a land claim in Logan County. He used his house for a court house. Mother often wondered what became of his books." Logan County, IL Inventory of the Estate of John Shoup, Deceased Filed this September 22, 1865, Recorded in No. 2, Page 330 and 331. Estate Sale. Articles Sold Name of Purchaser Amount: 1 writing desk, Jerome Shoup, $2 [son of deceased] 1 writing desk, Monroe Shoup, $2.50 [son of deceased] 1 chest, Monroe Shoup, $7.50 1 chest, Jerome Shoup, .50 1 rocking chair, Monroe Shoup, $2.50 5 chairs, Jerome Shoup, $2 1 map, Jerome Shoup, $1 1 county map, Monroe Shoup, .75 1 pair saddlebags, John Baxter, .50 1 rifle, Jerome Shoup, $3 1 bed, Jerome Shoup, $13 1 bedstead, Jerome Shoup, $3.25 1 bedstead, J. Marshall Edwards, .50 1 bedstead, Lorenzo Dow Downing, .50 [son-in-law] 1 bedstead, John Dameron, .50 1 lot of books, Monroe Shoup, $11 1 lot of books, Jerome Shoup, $5 1 piece of carpet, Jerome Shoup, $2.75 1 large copper kettle, John Buckles, $15 1 --------, Richard Templeman, $3.50 1 --------, G.W. Ward, $1.25 1 parlor stove and pipe, William Matthews, $8.40 1 beehive, Marshall Edwards, $7.67 1 beehive, Marshall Edwards, $8.25 1 beehive, Franklin Patterson, $5 1 beehive, Franklin Patterson, $6 1 beehive, Josiah Downing, $8 1 beehive, W.A. --gram, $7.75 1 beehive, W.A. --gram, $8.75 1 beehive, Lorenzo Dow Downing, $10 [son-in-law] 1 beehive, ----- Smith, $3 1 beehive, John Martin, $6.75 -- ---------- ------------------- ------------- 1 red [cow], ----------, $36.05 1 [lot of] twelve calves, C.M. Primm, $155.40 1 roan bull, B.B. Whitaker, Jr., $37 1 [lot of] ten sheep, Marshall Edwards, $42.50 1 [lot of] ten sheep, Marshall Edwards, $38.50 1 [lot of] ten sheep, John Walker, $39 1 [lot of] ten sheep, John Patterson, $32.50 1 [lot of] ten sheep, John Baxter, $33.50 1 [lot of] twelve sheep, John Baxter, $36 1 [lot of] 28 lambs, James Rece, $84 1 roan horse, W.P. Leathers, $140.50 1 bay horse, R.L/Y. Burns, $150.50 1 sorrel horse, Jerome Shoup, $102 1 bay horse, William McMahon, $126 1 bay mare, Samuel Heft, $150.75 1 gray mare, Monroe Shoup, $105 1 iron gray colt, John Anderson, $125.25 1 gray colt, John D. Martin, $50.50 1 [lot of] 15 hogs, Franklin Patterson, $273.75 1 [lot of] 15 hogs, Franklin Patterson, $270 1 [lot of] 15 hogs, Monroe Shoup, $202.50 1 [lot of] 15 hogs, Monroe Shoup, $172.50 1 [lot of] 20 pigs, Abraham Shoup, $100 1 [lot of] 20 geese, G.W. Ward, $8 [gap of faint, difficult to read lines here] 30 bushels of wheat, Monroe Shoup, $31.50 35 bushels of rye, Franklin Patterson, $22.75 60 bushels oats, Monroe Shoup, $18 [unreadable three lines] Timothy hay stack, Lewis Hon, $11 Timothy hay stack, J.B. ?Pettitt, $18.75 Timothy hay stack, John Morrow, $21 [son-in-law] Timothy hay stack, Lewis Hon, $12 Timothy hay stack, Frank James, $3.75 Timothy hay stack, Alexander Mills, $9.50 Timothy hay stack, Eli Fletcher, $13.75 Timothy hay stack, Alexander Mills, $8 Timothy hay stack, Alexander Mills, $6.50 Stack of wheat, James Reec, $18.75 17 acres of corn, Monroe Shoup, $127.50 13 and third acres corn, Monroe Shoup, $80 ---- acres corn, Monroe Shoup, $190 12 acres corn, John Morrow, $60 16 acres corn, Monroe Shoup, $160 2/3 acre corn, Henry Anstine, $2 1 stack of oats, John ?Warick, $30 5 three-year-old steers, John Buckles, $240 [gap one line] 2 two-year-old heifers, Jerome Shoup, $60 24 yearling steers, L.K. Scroggins, $438 1 whiteface cow, --------, ------ 1 red cow, -------------, $37 1 spotted cow, Franklin Patterson, $39.90 1 red cow, Jesse Jackson, $39 1 pale red cow and two calves, Christopher Donner, $30 1 red cow and calf, Daniel Hoy, $16.25 1 red whitefaced cow, John Dameron, $42.50 1 red whitefaced cow and calf, Christopher Donner, $24 1 brindle cow, Franklin Patterson, $42.25 1 spotted cow, Bartle Ruff, $15.25 1 red cow, Reuben Bowers, $24 1 red cow, Reuben Bowers, $17.75 1 red cow, Reuben Bowers, $19.50 1 red cow and calf, Milton Patterson, $17.10 1 red cow and calf, Reuben Bowers, $15.25 1 brindle cow, David Bowen, $35 1 red cow, Reuben Bowers, $16.75 1 pale red cow, John Baxter, $37 1 red cow white face, Robert Fleming, $25.20 1 red cow white face, Robert Fleming, $30 1 red cow white face, Reuben Bowers, $36.25 1 red cow white face, Jerome Shoup, $28 1 dun cow, John Buckles, $36 1 red cow, John Buckles, $36.05 1 brindle cow, John Buckles, $36.05 1 grindstone, Chalt Buckles, $3.35 1 grubbing hoe, Bartle Ruff, .75 1 mowing scythe, G.W. Ward, $1.55 1 brush scythe, Bartle Ruff, .50 1 brush scythe, Alexander Mills, .60 2 old scythes, Abraham Shoup, .50 1 crosscut saw, John Morrow, $5 2 old axes, Monroe Shoup, $1.75 1 pair steelyards, Henry Anstine, .50 1 lot of plains [sic], Frank Huston, $5 1 adz, John Morrow, $2 3 squares, Frank Huston, $2.30 1 handsaw, Frank Huston, $1.50 1 -------- saw, John Morrow, .75 1 ---- inch auger, Frank Huston, .75 1 broad ax, Frank Huston, $1.30 2 augers, Frank Huston, .90 2 augers, Frank Huston, .45 2 frow, Thomas Buckles, $1.45 1 spade, ---- no sale---- 3 ox yokes, Chalt Buckles, $1 1 log chain, W. Clay, $2 1 log chain, John Morrow, $3.05 1 log chain, J.H. Coddington, $2 1 log chain, Reuben Bowers, $4.10 1 lot of old irons, G.W. Ward, $1.30 1 lot whipple trees, Johnathan Combs, .25 1 wood saw, Bartle Ruff, .50 1 bench screw & iron wedge, Frank Huston, $1.50 1 two-horse wagon, Jerome Shoup, $92 1 old wagon, Henry Anstine, $13.50 1 two-horse cultivator, William Smith, $20 1 two-horse cultivator, Jerome Shoup, $36.50 1 two-horse plow, William --. Leathers, $20 1 two-horse plow, Lewis Hoy, $2.50 1 two-horse plow, Jacob G-----, $2 1 two-horse plow, Bartle Ruff, $5 1 two-horse plow, James Fletcher, $1.25 [brother-in-law of deceased] 1 two-horse plow, John H. Roberts, $5 1 double-shovel plow, Frank Huston, $2.50 1 double-shovel plow, Frank Huston, .50 1 shovel plow, R.W. Roberts, $1 1 two plow, G.W. Ward, $1.05 1 corn planter, A. Simonton, $21 1 two-horse scraper, Jesse Jackson, $5.10 1 windmill, Franklin Patterson, $1 1 grain drill, W. --. Leathers, $10 1 McCormick reaper, Franklin Patterson, $1 ---------. An inventory of John Shoup's real estate with value, all in Township 19N, Range 2W: ---80 acres, S1/4 SW 1/4 Section 27, timberland, $1,600; ---40 acres, SE1/4, SE -- Section 22, in cultivation, $560; ---40 acres, NW1/4 NE --, Section 34, partly under cultivation, $32, warrantee deed given by William Gulliford and wife September 30, 1837; ---40 acres, S1/2 of the W1/2 of the SE --, Section 27, under cultivation, warrantee deed given by Jacob Shoup and wife September 30, 1837; ---160 acres, W ----, Section 27, under cultivation, $1,920; ---40 acres, SE1/4 of the SE 1/4, Section 27, part timber (ordinary), $ --?, warrantee given by John Grigg and wife, October 21, 1846; ---120 acres, NW1/4 and NE1/4 SE 1/4 of Section 22, under cultivation, $1,680, land warrant ------- by John Shoup, April 3d, 1850; ---80 acres, N1/2 of NW1/4, Section 34, swamp land, $640, land warrant located by John Shoup, December 31, 1842?; ---20 acres S1/4 SE1/4 of Section 28, timber land (ordinary), $400. and in Township 18N, R2W: ---42 & 43/100 acres, NE 1/4 of the NW 1/4 of Section 3, $800, good timber land, entered at the land office at Springfield, Ills March 18, 1833; Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sherryk180 Surnames: Patterson, Shoup, Hoffman Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/135.136.288.300.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Patterson notes for Monroe and Mary Ann Shoup: Survivors of Mary Ann (Patterson) Shoup in 1916 when she died at Mt. Pulaski, IL included: Mrs. Jerome Shoup, Hill City, KS Mrs. J.W. Hoffman of Ames, KS C.J. Patterson, Springfield, CO Harry Patterson, Saline, KS Edward Patterson, Kansas City, KS. A long-forgotten source gave the parents of Mary Ann " Molly" and Florence "Flol" Patterson as Franklin and Elizabeth Patterson. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sherryk180 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1586.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Logan County, IL Martin notes: People who settled in Logan County before 1840 according to the 1878 History of Logan County, IL. http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/oldset.htm Martin, Samuel, Salt Creek, settled there 1830, Living in 1878 Martin, Mrs. Samuel, Salt Creek, settled there 1832, Living in 1878. and... Officers of Logan County from the formation of the county in 1839 to the Logan County History published in 1878: Shoup, John County Justice 11/30/1861. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sherryk180 Surnames: Martin, Shoup, Morrow Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1586.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In 45 years of off-and-on-again research and contact with descendants, I cannot say with confidence who Hannah Martin Shoup's parents are. Our family connects from her daughter Mary Shoup who married John Morrow and came to Oregon. In a very large fill-in-the-blanks family tree inherited from their daughter is written James and Mary Martin as her parents. I have not looked for a will for them... perhaps in Ohio, maybe Logan County, IL, nor have I looked for them in the census. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: thegenealogysleuth Surnames: Patterson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/135.136.288.300.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you know which Pattersons are the parents of Mary Ann and Florence? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: thegenealogysleuth Surnames: Martin, Shoup Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1586.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Who are Hannah Martin Shoup's parents? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sherryk180 Surnames: Gulliford, Shoup, Downing, Vanderpool, Hardesty, Cooper, Happenstall, Allen, Hodges, Propst, Lucky, Butler Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1587/mb.ashx Message Board Post: William H. Gulliford m. Eliza Shoup, daughter of Jacob and Sarah (Downing) Shoup, in Sangamon County, IL 29 September 1833. They crossed the plains to Oregon by wagon & ox team in 1852 with eight chilren, the ninth being born in Oregon. Seek parents of William H. Gulliford. William Gulliford was bornin PA or OH 24 April 1810 and died in Lane County, OR 1865. Eliza was born 27 February 1810 in Pickaway County, OH, died Lane County, OR 1857. Their children: 1. Jacob Allan 1834 Sangamon County, IL - 1922 Wasco County, OR, m Martha E. Vanderpool, Wasco County, OR 1872; 2. John Lewis 1836 Logan County, IL - c. 1899-1903 Umatilla County, OR, m Julia Hardesty 1859 Lane County, OR; 3. Sarah E. 1838 Menard County, IL - 1917 Whitman County, WA, m William R. Cooper 1857 Lane County, OR; 4. William H. 1840 Logan County, IL - 1901 Crook County, OR, m Ellen Happenstall 1864 Lane County, OR; 5. Thomas J. 1842 Logan County, IL - 1888 Whitman County, WA, m Elizabeth Delaney, 1885 Whitman County, WA; 6. Emma Catherine c. 1844 Menard County, IL - 1921 Linn County, OR, m William M. Allen 1858 Linn County, OR; 7. Jasper Newton 1845 Menard County, IL - 1920 Lane County, OR, m Elizabeth C. Hodges 1872 Wasco County, OR; 8. Anne Eliza 1849 Menard County, IL - ?; m James M. Propst 1864 Lane County, OR; 9. Mary "Molly" M. 1854 Linn County, OR - ?, m1 Eugene R. Lucky 1872 Wasco County, OR, m2 J.D. Butler. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sherryk180 Surnames: Conrad, Shoup Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1586/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Lewis or Louis Conrad was born 26 July 1842, married Delilah Shoup, daughter of John and Hannah (Martin) Shoup, 16 August 1866 in Logan County, IL. Delilah "Lilah" was born 26 July 1842 in Logan County. They had five known children: 1. Frank G. 2. Lina R. 3. Maude 4. William S. 5. Pearl. The family is believed to have moved to Winfield, KS and Seattle, King County, WA. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sherryk180 Surnames: Shoup, Crocker, Patterson, Jenkins, McCoy, Scott, St. Peter, Millbrook, Morrow Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/135.136.288.300/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Jerome Shoup [1844-1916] m1 Harriet F. Crocker 1867 Logan County, IL and they had one child, Eva Luella in 1868. Harriet d 1872 age 23, buried Bowers-Templeman Cemetery, Logan County, IL. Jerome m2 Florence "Flol" Patterson, 1873 in St. Louis, MO, the sister of Mary Ann Patterson who m. Monroe Shoup. Florence had no children. Jerome and Florence died in Hill City, Graham County, KS. Eva L. Shoup m John W. Jenkins. 1860 US Census, Logan County, IL: #1373-1398: Harvey Crocker, 48, IL Mary Crocker, 45, OH Alice Crocker, 16, IL Harriet Crocker, 11, IL Thomas Crocker, 10, IL Julia Crocker, 6, IL; #1366-1391: John Shoup, 57, PA Hannah Shoup, 54, OH Rosean Shoup, 28, OH Monroe Shoup, 19, IL Delia Shoup, 17, IL Jerome Shoup, 16, IL Nancy E. Shoup, 14, IL. 1870 US Census, Logan County, IL: Jerome Shoup, 25, IL, farmer, $9,600 / $2,000 Harriet Shoup, 26, IL Eva Shoup, 1, IL Rosa A. Shoup, 37, IL [sister to Jerome Shoup] William B. McCoy, 20, farm laborer Mary McCoy, 18, domestic servant. 2002: Graham County Sheriff's Department http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/8761/history.htm Hill City, Kansas U.S.A. - Don E. Scott, Sheriff Graham County History Prior to April 1, 1880 what is now Graham County Kansas was Graham Township of Rooks County Kansas. On April 1, 1880 The Honorable Governor St. Peter signed a proclamation founding Graham County Kansas. On June 1, 1880 the first election was held for Graham County Sheriff and that term was only temporary until the general election in Novemeber of 1880. Date Elected 1880 (June) 1880 (Nov) A.E. Moses A.E. Moses Millbrook Millbrook and 1891 1893 Jerome Shoup Jerome Shoup Hill City. Jerome Shoup was in Sherman County, OR to visit the cousins, John and Mary [Shoup] Morrow and their offspring, on "Poverty" [Starvation] Point, east of Wasco near the John Day River, about 1905 or 1906. The People's Reveille - circa 1908 - http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/5320/rice.html Most people probably imagine that if they had means they would chose to live in some city where the so-called modern conveniences could be enjoyed. But all people do not experience that feeling. As notable examples we mention two gentlemen whose pictures adorn this page. Mr. Jerome Shoup is rated at $100,000.00 and could live in splendor wherever his fancy might lead him. He recently sold a large farm in Illinois preferring to live and invest his money in this county. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sherryk180 Surnames: Lincoln, Morris, Mann, Barkley, Dunner, Bozarth, Rankin, Shoup, Vonderlieth Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/135.136.288.291.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Tentatively . . . John Lincoln, son of Thomas of PA & OH, was born bet. 1834-1837 in Union County, PA, died 1903; went to Pickaway County, OH 1842, then to Mt. Pulaski, Logan County, IL. He married Melinda Morris who was born in Pickaway County. Their children, all born Mt. Pulaski, included: 1. Mary Susan 1857-1931, m Edward Mann 1878; 2. Charles Wellington 1863-1912, m Lee Barkley, in 1893 was cashier at Mt. Pulaski Farmer's Bank, lived Kansas City, MO; 3. Maud(e) m1 George C. Dunner (1867-1920), m2 Dr. J.W. Bozarth; 4. Warren John 1878 - ; m1 Blanche Rankin, m2 Lina Shoup; 5. Abraham d in infancy; 6. Edward M. m. Emiline Katharine Vonderlieth. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sherryk180 Surnames: Shoup, Patterson, Lincoln, Rankin, Barlow, Lushbaugh, Stallings, Downing, Scroggins, Schultz, Martin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/135.136.288.291.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Monroe Shoup farmed part of the old place in Logan County, IL in Section 27 of Chester Township, and lived on N. Washington Street in Mt. Pulaski, IL. He belonged to the Christian Church, and was a Republican. He enlisted in April 1861 in Company H. 7th Illinois Regiment, then re-enlisted in August 1862 in Company D, 106th Illinois Infantry and served as a 2nd Lieutenant and 1st Lieutenant, until 1865. He married Mary Ann "Molly" Patterson following his return from service in the Union Army. He was a member of the Sam Walker Grand Army of the Republic post at Mt. Pulaski, and an elder and Sunday school superintendent in the Christian Church. 1860 US Census, Logan County, IL #1366: Monroe Shoup, 19, IL, living with his family. 1870 US Census, Logan County, IL: Monroe Shoup, 29, IL, farmer, $8,000/$2,000 Mary A. Shoup, 24, IL, keeping house Philip S. Shoup, 3, IL John F. Shoup, 2, IL Lewis B. Shoup, 1, IL. Children of Monroe and Mary Ann [Patterson] Shoup: 1. Philip Sheridan 1866-1936, m. Cleo Matilda Martin (1862-1944) 1890 Logan County, IL, two children, Helen 1891 and Phyllis Mae 1896; 2. John Franklin 1867-1945, m. Mertise Ellen Downing 1890 Logan County, IL, one daughter Hilma wife of A.F. Schultz in Decatur, IL; 3. Lewis Byron 1869-1923, unmarried, murdered - shot by Warren John Lincoln at Lincoln home in Aurora, IL, buried Mt. Pulaski, IL; 4. Fanny Fern 1870-1871; 5. Luella "Lida" or "Lyde" 1872-1960, m1 1891 Hubert Milford Scroggins (1870-1894, two children Arthur M. and Edna Pauline; m2 Wm. E. Lachenmeyer or Luchemeyer, one son Dean; 6. Nelly May 1874-1930, m Henry Nelson Downing 1890 Logan County, IL at Shoup home, 4 children: Winifred Lenore, Byron L., Mildred Marie & Helen Pauline; 7. Joseph Martin 1876-1919, m Flora Belle "Pet" Downing, d/o Lorenzo D. and Hancy Ann Downing, 1896 Logan County, IL, one child Cecil; Flora m2 Rogers, m3 Frank "Max" Stallings 8. Willis "Billy" Monroe 1877-1946, m. Kathryn "Katie" Barlow 1899 Logan County, IL, one son Harold Clyde 1909-1911; 9. Clara Winifred c. 1879-1881, "ran away to" m Theodore W. "Ted" Lushbaugh in Iowa 1905; Clara lived in Tulsa OK in 1966; 10. Ralph 1885-1930, unmarried; 11. Evangeline "Lina" 1883-1923, murdered by husband Warren John Lincoln, m Warren J. Lincoln, Logan County, IL; By his first wife Blanche Rankin, Warren Lincoln had a son John 1904; 12. Roscoe "Ross" Conklin 1887-1960, m Maude Louise Barlow 1909, two daughters, Norma Jane 1915 & Erma Louise 1919. Certified Copy of Monroe Shoup's Death Record, State of Illinois Department of Public Health: Monroe Shoup, veteran, male, white, widowed, born Logan County, IL September 12, 1840, died October 17, 1919 at age 79y 1m 5d of senility and creeping paralysis, retired farmer, buried Mt. Pulaski Cemetery, Mt. Pulaski, IL, Boyden Undertaking Company. Informant was Mrs. Lida Lincoln of Mt. Pulaski. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sherryk180 Surnames: Morris, Richards, Deihl, Anstine, Morrow Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/887.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Connection, if any, to the Morris family posted previously, is unknown: W.S. "Dick" Morris lived at Lincoln, Ill., a farmer in 1887; b. Ohio to Lemuel Morris & Annie Richards; married to Lillie Morrow by Rev. Joseph E. Deihl, ministering elder on 27 Jan 1887 / 1881 at bride's home, Logan Co., Ill. Witnesses - Jerome Morrow & William ?Anstin(e). Marriage license written "Richard" crossed out & changed to W. S. Morris; stated FIRST MARRIAGE FOR BOTH. Ch: Ethelyn and Alta. Lillie moved to Oregon where her siblings and parents located in Sherman County. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jloganbrooks Surnames: Logan, Acevedo, Andrade, Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1585/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking to find info on my ggrandfather. I have records from about 1917 (WWI draft cards) showing he was born in Sheridan Illinois in 1886. I also have found a copy of his death certificate. I also have a closest relative in Blackwell Oklahoma - Mrs. A. Jones He was a mechanic who went to work in the mines in Santa Cruz County, Arizona for a company based in Salinas, CA. He married at an older age to a young Ann Acevedo. They had 3 children... Bert, Ruth and Robert. I can not verfiy any information about this person prior to him moving to Arizona. Does anyone have any other information about Logan families from this area? Thanks in advance for any help. Julie Logan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.