Does anyone know what time and where the LCG&HS meeting is July 16? Thanks. Carolyn

The Sangamon County Genealogical Society will host a research day on Saturday, July 14 from 9 am to 1 pm at the society's office, 2856 South 11th St., Springfield, Illinois The office is located three blocks north of Stevenson Drive on the corner of 11th Street and Knox and three blocks south of Bunn Park on 11th Street. Members of the society's board will be available to answer research questions throughout the day. Family history materials from the society's library are available for all to view including microfilmed copies of birth (1877-1916), marriage (1821-1925) and death certificates (1877-1940s) for Sangamon County. Surname and obituary files, Auburn Citizen (1874-1965) and other area newspaper microfilms are also available to view at the office. Come enjoy the day in a nice air conditioned building researching your ancestors. Dan Dixon - President/Editor PO Box 1829 (Mailing Address) Springfield, IL 62705-1829 Email: Dbutton2@aol.com Phone: 217-529-0542 Sangamon County Genealogical Society Office Library 2856 South 11th Street (approx. 3 blocks north of Stevenson Drive and approx. 2 1/2 blocks south of Bunn Golf Course) Springfield, Illinois Phone: 217-529-0542 Email: Dbutton2@aol.com Open Tuesday Nights 5:30 to 9:00 or by appointment Web Address: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilsangam/scgs/scgs.htm ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Bill, I did that last night and they will take the picture. Thanks for the suggestion in case I had not already done that. I appreciate your taking the time to help. Lee Anne

If the cemetery is in Logan County, contact the Historical Society. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Anne Center" <lacenter@comcast.net> To: <illogan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN] Need a headstone photographer (Morgan/GilbertCemetery in what was formerly known as Emminence, IL) | Thank you Cheryl. I will check out the findagrave.com website and contact | Tony. | | Lee Anne | | | ________ | Logan County ILGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan | | To unsubscribe send a message to: | ILLOGAN-request@Rootsweb.com | with unsubscribe as the subject. | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message |

Thank you Cheryl. I will check out the findagrave.com website and contact Tony. Lee Anne

I would love to get a photograph of Willard R. Center's (d. 30 Jan. 1879) headstone in the Morgan/Gilbert Cemetery. Do you know someone who would be willing to take one? Lee Anne

Willard's grave is listed on findagrave.com. You could pull up this entry and ask for a free photo. I know Tony Cannon lives in Bloomington, and does 59 of these every week. It's worth a try. You could also try contacting him directly; he's listed as a volunteer.. Cheryl Kale Lee Anne Center <lacenter@comcast.net> wrote: I would love to get a photograph of Willard R. Center's (d. 30 Jan. 1879) headstone in the Morgan/Gilbert Cemetery. Do you know someone who would be willing to take one? Lee Anne ________ Logan County ILGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan To unsubscribe send a message to: ILLOGAN-request@Rootsweb.com with unsubscribe as the subject. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids.

George is not a listed child of Charles Barney. However, since they passed through before 1840 and the first set of children were mostly adults, it is possible that one or more of the sons stayed, married locally and George is a son of that marriage. This is one of the reasons why I posted it. The family passed through and left its mark but would be hard to trace. Years ago we had someone trying to work on Marcy Jane Lucas' first husband, John Williams. His stone is one of those missing from Steenbergen. She did not know what happened to Marcy. Cheryl Rothwell

Cheryl: I do not know if the following people are related to the Barney's you listed but here is information from the Lincoln Herald. Also, there is a Clarence Barney listed in the current telephone book for Lincoln. Lincoln Herald 1859-1867: references to BARNEY NAME: DATE: PAGE: COL: EVENT: BARNEY, George L 19 Dec 1860 3 2 Married 13 Dec MUSICK, Margaret BARNEY, Colen 25 Jul 1861 3 1 Recruits for Civil War BARNEY, George C 14 Aug 1862 3 1 Capt Pegram's Co BARNEY, Sergt G L 28 Aug 1862 2 3 Capt Pegram's Company BARNEY, G S 15 Jan 1863 3 1 Paroled Prisoners > From: illogan-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: ILLOGAN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 121> To: illogan@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 01:05:15 -0600> > > > This is the digest of today's ILLOGAN list messages. PLEASE reply to the individual messages rather than the digest header.> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Charles Barney (Cheryl Rothwell)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 16:55:02 -0500> From: "Cheryl Rothwell" <historysleuth@gmail.com>> Subject: [ILLOGAN] Charles Barney> To: ILLOGAN <illogan@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID:> <d3447b420707041455i5b1e4290p397d4b084348b32a@mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> > A descendant of Abraham and Marcy Kelsey Lucas, a granddaughter named Marcy> Jane Lucas, was the widow of John Williams. She was left with three> daughters. She went west and became one of the pioneer Mormons. Eventually> she married a Henry Barney. Some digging produced the the> following.CharlesBarney had at least 9 children, including Henry,> Lewis and Lurinda. He was> from Vermont, most of the children were born in NY but some in Ohio, then> back to NY. His wife died. He apparently then came to Logan County with the> children. Lurinda married John D. Copeland. Lewis married Elizabeth Turner.> > Not to be outdone old Charles married Deborah Riffle Street of "Lake Fork,> Logan County, Illinois." They had at least seven children, the early ones> being born in Logan or Sangamon [don't know if Sangamon is a mistake or they> moved around -- it does seem that he moved around a great deal], the last> being born in Nauvoo. He joined the church there in 1840 and they moved to> Utah. He was also a pioneer Mormon.> > Elizabeth Turner is from the marriage of Walter Turner and Lydia Ballinger.> The Turners and Ballingers were originally Quakers, later Predestinarian> Baptists. Turners married the Lucases and Birks, perhaps others. Walter> Turner's uncle Allen had, among others, Mary who was the first of four wives> of the Thomas Lucases, and the far more interesting Spencer, first man tried> for murder in DeWitt County. He was defended by Abraham Lincoln and Stephen> Douglas and was acquitted.> > Do the Barneys ring a bell? They seemed to have passed through Logan County> like a whirlwind. Did they marry into other families as well? Does anyone> have a Barney? Does anyone know who Deborah Riffle Street would be?> > Cheryl Rothwell> > > ------------------------------> > To contact the ILLOGAN list administrator, send an email to> ILLOGAN-admin@rootsweb.com.> > To post a message to the ILLOGAN mailing list, send an email to ILLOGAN@rootsweb.com.> > __________________________________________________________> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the> email with no additional text.> > > End of ILLOGAN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 121> *************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Missed the show?  Watch videos of the Live Earth Concert on MSN. http://liveearth.msn.com

A descendant of Abraham and Marcy Kelsey Lucas, a granddaughter named Marcy Jane Lucas, was the widow of John Williams. She was left with three daughters. She went west and became one of the pioneer Mormons. Eventually she married a Henry Barney. Some digging produced the the following.CharlesBarney had at least 9 children, including Henry, Lewis and Lurinda. He was from Vermont, most of the children were born in NY but some in Ohio, then back to NY. His wife died. He apparently then came to Logan County with the children. Lurinda married John D. Copeland. Lewis married Elizabeth Turner. Not to be outdone old Charles married Deborah Riffle Street of "Lake Fork, Logan County, Illinois." They had at least seven children, the early ones being born in Logan or Sangamon [don't know if Sangamon is a mistake or they moved around -- it does seem that he moved around a great deal], the last being born in Nauvoo. He joined the church there in 1840 and they moved to Utah. He was also a pioneer Mormon. Elizabeth Turner is from the marriage of Walter Turner and Lydia Ballinger. The Turners and Ballingers were originally Quakers, later Predestinarian Baptists. Turners married the Lucases and Birks, perhaps others. Walter Turner's uncle Allen had, among others, Mary who was the first of four wives of the Thomas Lucases, and the far more interesting Spencer, first man tried for murder in DeWitt County. He was defended by Abraham Lincoln and Stephen Douglas and was acquitted. Do the Barneys ring a bell? They seemed to have passed through Logan County like a whirlwind. Did they marry into other families as well? Does anyone have a Barney? Does anyone know who Deborah Riffle Street would be? Cheryl Rothwell

The Logan County Genealogical & Historical Society has a printed copy and an update to 2004 of Atlanta Cemetery in Logan county. Cost is $20 plus $5 for shipping. Send Check to 114 N. Chicago St., Lincoln, Il 62656.- Original Message ----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 8:34 AM To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN] Atlanta Cemetery, Logan County, Illinois Lookup This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: xcheck2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/840.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello again Roberta i was just going through the message board again and saw our messges from a couple years ago....hope you got your info ok about the atlanta cemetery..... Robert Black Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ________ Logan County ILGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan To unsubscribe send a message to: ILLOGAN-request@Rootsweb.com with unsubscribe as the subject. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Need help---trying to locate birth parents of a Samuel (O'Brine (O'Brien) b 1868. Marriage certificate to Rebecca Graham Mitchell states Samuel was born 3 June 1868 in San Jose, Mason Co. IL. Family recollection is that his mother died at some point in time after his birth. He was taken in by the midwife who delivered him. The midwife (name unknown) evidently raised him to around the age of 9yrs old when she too passed away. He was then dropped off at Eleanor (Ellen) Proctor O'Brien's house in San Jose. Eleanor Proctor O'Brien purchased property in San Jose in 1868 located next to her sister Mary Proctor Hight. Eleanor had married a William O'Brien in 1851 WV and was widowed by the time she moved to San Jose. Eleanor never legally adopted Samuel. Samuel's oldest son Forrest O'Brine's wife listed in her family Bible that Samuel's birth surname was Waxs???Wack,Wacht. or Weeks. etc. Would greatly appreciate any help. Thank you.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KimShore46 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/114.120.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes, Emily lived in Logan county and i know she had one brother that was killed on his farm. His name was Charles. Years ago when we went to the cemetery in near Chestnut i discovered what i believe to be another brother buried near Emily and John Waddle. I can look up his name if you think this is part of your family. Who are you looking for? The McMahon/McMahan family goes way back to Robert who family was murdered by Indians. Let me know if you think this is your family. You can e-mail me direct at kshore@triad.rr.com.......Kim Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: grandmamcmahan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/114.120/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm trying to find my great great family. I believe he had a sister named Emily. Do you have any information on her? Thanks, Joyce Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thanks Joan, worth a try! Marilyn - Fla. -----Original Message----- From: illogan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:illogan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joan Lund Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 12:00 AM To: illogan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN] Archives Info One that old might be under "re" in the circuit court index. Don't tell anyone you are looking for it though. Better yet, order the index from the Family History Library and look for yourself. Joan Cheryl Rothwell <historysleuth@gmail.com> wrote: Adoptions are a different issue but it is probably the same process. The difference is you are working with the county and a county judge. You would have to petition him or her to open the records and there is no guarantee since you have no "compelling" reason. Before spending that kind of money -- filling any kind of petition in Illinois is pretty expensive these days -- I would want to be sure the file actually existed. Filing fee could be several hundred dollars. You probably don't want it that bad. Normally you petition for adoption of X and all adults involved sign off. If it was concentual the mother may have signed off or she may just have appeared in court that long ago. If it was not consentual for whatever reason she obviously didn't sign. On 6/24/07, Marilyn wrote: > > Cheryl: > > You mention obtaining records that need a 'court order' - how do you go > about that? I have been trying to get 'application?' papers for an > adoption > for several year now and no one seems to know 'how/where' I do > this. These > papers would be 118 yrs old. Is that old enough? :o) I have adoption > papers, but would like to see the papers where the 'mother' signed off on > - > at least I would think there was such a thing? Am I wrong and wasting my > time? > Thanks > Marilyn - Fla. > > ________ Logan County ILGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan To unsubscribe send a message to: ILLOGAN-request@Rootsweb.com with unsubscribe as the subject. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Joan Black Lund jblgene@sbcglobal.net http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~joanlund/ ________ Logan County ILGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan To unsubscribe send a message to: ILLOGAN-request@Rootsweb.com with unsubscribe as the subject. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

One that old might be under "re" in the circuit court index. Don't tell anyone you are looking for it though. Better yet, order the index from the Family History Library and look for yourself. Joan Cheryl Rothwell <historysleuth@gmail.com> wrote: Adoptions are a different issue but it is probably the same process. The difference is you are working with the county and a county judge. You would have to petition him or her to open the records and there is no guarantee since you have no "compelling" reason. Before spending that kind of money -- filling any kind of petition in Illinois is pretty expensive these days -- I would want to be sure the file actually existed. Filing fee could be several hundred dollars. You probably don't want it that bad. Normally you petition for adoption of X and all adults involved sign off. If it was concentual the mother may have signed off or she may just have appeared in court that long ago. If it was not consentual for whatever reason she obviously didn't sign. On 6/24/07, Marilyn wrote: > > Cheryl: > > You mention obtaining records that need a 'court order' - how do you go > about that? I have been trying to get 'application?' papers for an > adoption > for several year now and no one seems to know 'how/where' I do > this. These > papers would be 118 yrs old. Is that old enough? :o) I have adoption > papers, but would like to see the papers where the 'mother' signed off on > - > at least I would think there was such a thing? Am I wrong and wasting my > time? > Thanks > Marilyn - Fla. > > ________ Logan County ILGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan To unsubscribe send a message to: ILLOGAN-request@Rootsweb.com with unsubscribe as the subject. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Joan Black Lund jblgene@sbcglobal.net http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~joanlund/

Isn't that the pitts!!! Grrrrr. I know all the g. uncles/aunt, but nothing about them - have been trying to see if any of them had kids that they might know, but nothing there either. The aunt did have kids but I located one of them but they wouldn't ans. Back when I wrote. Even tried to call. Oh well, such is life. Do you ever talk to 'them' and chew 'em out?? I do all the time - 'course I don't get any ans. from them either! Good luck. Marilyn -----Original Message----- From: illogan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:illogan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Susan McConnell Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 5:15 PM To: illogan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN] Archives Info Marilyn, We have the same story, a Grandfather, born October (7), 1879, then raised in Kinmundy, Marion County. The older of his children knew of the story, via their cousins from his adopted mother's family, but his birth mother's name was never mentioned. It's always seemed like we could 'find' something, but it has eluded us. In his father's Death Notice, he was referred to as 'survived by one adopted son . . . '. Sue McC On Jun 25, 2007, at 3:11 PM, Marilyn wrote: Seems my grandfather (mothers dad) was born in 1889, the parents were his actual father and a girlfriend/mistress/lover (?) and not his wife. However, he and the wife 'adopted' him. ________ Logan County ILGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan To unsubscribe send a message to: ILLOGAN-request@Rootsweb.com with unsubscribe as the subject. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've tried that route! Nothing. And on my g.grandma's death certificate - my grandfather didn't even know his 'stepmother (I guess)maiden name or her parents. Well, I think I will try calling county clerk and see what they tell me. I know stepmother was a midwife and worked for a woman doctor soI even tried nurses organization. -----Original Message----- From: illogan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:illogan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Rothwell Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 4:42 PM To: illogan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN] Archives Info They were strange then. The judge may have determined the mom didn't have the right to the kid since she wasn't married, etc. so her permission was not needed. 1889 - there MIGHT be a birth certificate. I don't know that they thought to change them at that time. On 6/25/07, Marilyn <munderwood@access4less.net> wrote: > > NOOOOO, I wouldn't want it that bad!!! Holy cow, they want the living

Marilyn, We have the same story, a Grandfather, born October (7), 1879, then raised in Kinmundy, Marion County. The older of his children knew of the story, via their cousins from his adopted mother's family, but his birth mother's name was never mentioned. It's always seemed like we could 'find' something, but it has eluded us. In his father's Death Notice, he was referred to as 'survived by one adopted son . . . '. Sue McC On Jun 25, 2007, at 3:11 PM, Marilyn wrote: Seems my grandfather (mothers dad) was born in 1889, the parents were his actual father and a girlfriend/mistress/lover (?) and not his wife. However, he and the wife 'adopted' him.

NOOOOO, I wouldn't want it that bad!!! Holy cow, they want the living too. Like I said, I have the adoption decree, but the mothers name isn't on it nor the wife's maiden name. I was hoping there might be a release paper signed by the mother - did they do that sort of thing back then? Surely, she needed to sign 'off' on the baby? But no, don't want to spend hundreds of dollars for that. Seems my grandfather (mothers dad) was born in 1889, the parents were his actual father and a girlfriend/mistress/lover (?) and not his wife. However, he and the wife 'adopted' him. Which seems a bit odd, why wouldn't he have just taken the boy without it being legal? But his father use to take him to a park and 'meet' the pretty lady once in awhile when he was young - this was all he remembered about it as told to my grandma. We don't know the wife's maiden name or any idea what the 'mothers' name was. That's the only place I could think that might have both their names listed. Thanks again. Marilyn - Fla. -----Original Message----- From: illogan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:illogan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Rothwell Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 2:25 PM To: illogan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN] Archives Info Adoptions are a different issue but it is probably the same process. The difference is you are working with the county and a county judge. You would have to petition him or her to open the records and there is no guarantee since you have no "compelling" reason. Before spending that kind of money -- filling any kind of petition in Illinois is pretty expensive these days -- I would want to be sure the file actually existed. Filing fee could be several hundred dollars. You probably don't want it that bad. Normally you petition for adoption of X and all adults involved sign off. If it was concentual the mother may have signed off or she may just have appeared in court that long ago. If it was not consentual for whatever reason she obviously didn't sign. On 6/24/07, Marilyn <munderwood@access4less.net> wrote: > > Cheryl: > > You mention obtaining records that need a 'court order' - how do you go > about that? I have been trying to get 'application?' papers for an > adoption > for several year now and no one seems to know 'how/where' I do > this. These > papers would be 118 yrs old. Is that old enough? :o) I have adoption > papers, but would like to see the papers where the 'mother' signed off on > - > at least I would think there was such a thing? Am I wrong and wasting my > time? > Thanks > Marilyn - Fla. > > ________ Logan County ILGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan To unsubscribe send a message to: ILLOGAN-request@Rootsweb.com with unsubscribe as the subject. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message