This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WilliamMiltonberger Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/410.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, I am looking for information on Stephen C Price, born 5 Nov 1823 Death 25 Sep 1896 in Hood River Oregon. I saw your message on Ancestry.com and hoped you might shed some light on this person, he married Polly Coon in 1855, she was my G G Grandmother. Any info would be appreciated, Thanks, Bill Miltonberger Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Dick -- But we don't know if it is calculated because in the "good old days" they didn't label it so we could be passing on bad info despite our best efforts. We are probably even citing that tombstone.
I'm not sure how far back the 8870 thing goes, but my view is that any calculated date is suspect - for the simple reason one can never know which of the several methods for determining the age of an individual was used. And any calculated date should be so labeled. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Rothwell" <historysleuth@gmail.com> To: <illogan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN] birth date calculator > Yes, there is a note to that effect on the Long Island web site. I'm > wondering how many calculated birth dates there are in accepted > records from before this was proven to be a wonky method...like DAR, > old NEGHS and NYGBRs, maybe even TAG. > > I confess it did not occur to me that the STONECUTTER would be the > person doing the calculating, not that he was necessarily any worse > than some of the other options... > > Cheryl > ________ > Logan County ILGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan > > To unsubscribe send a message to: > ILLOGAN-request@Rootsweb.com > with unsubscribe as the subject. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Dear Cheryl: Beware the 8870 system for figuring the date of birth from age at death. It only works about a third of the time. The recommendation is that you NOT use calculated dates in your data. At best, such dates can only be considered as a guess. The main reason for this is that there are - were - a number of different ways used by undertakers/tombstone carvers and newspaper editors to calculate how old a person was at death. The two most prominent methods were the "actual method" - which took into consideration the actual number of days in each month in determining the number of days old a person was at death - and the "30-day method" - which assumed that all months have 30 days no matter what. The 8870 method only works if the "all months have 30 days" method was used to calculate the age at death (or the number of days old was fewer than the day of the month of death - in which case it's easier to just do the math for the days, month and years).This 30-day method was actually taught in school in the latter half of the 19th century. There were other elaborate systems used to calculate ages, almost too complicated to explain (and I've forgotten them anyway <g>). In the late 1980s and early 1990s I did a survey of several hundred instances where the actual birth date was known from other sources and I used the two above-mentioned methods to calculate the birth date from age at death found on a tombstone or in an obituary. The result was that the person who did the age calculations used the "actual days method" about a third of the time and also used the "30-day method" about a third of the time. In the rest of the cases neither of these two methods of date calculation worked, indicating an error was made in the original calculation or some other method was used. (Note that in the case where the month preceding death had 30 days, either method would work.) For the above reasons, calculated birth dates are frowned upon. Their best legitimate use is for trying to determine if a "John Smith" whose age and death date are on his stone in the town cemetery is the same "John Smith" shown in the town birth records as being born on a given date (and thus providing documentation as to the names of his parents). When I encounter a date of death and age at death but nor birth date, I enter the year of birth only, the exact date of death and then footnote the age at death. Sadly, a great number of calculated dates posted on the Internet without noting that the date is calculated. Even though it can be shown that any calculated birth date has two chances out three of being wrong, others accept these dates as "fact." Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Rothwell" <historysleuth@gmail.com> To: "ILLOGAN" <illogan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 3:25 PM Subject: [ILLOGAN] birth date calculator > Put your math skills to work! [courtesy Morgan Johnson] > > HOW TO FIGURE A BIRTHDATE > > REMEMBER THIS NUMBER: 8870 > > This is not an error: It is the number to remember when you want to find > the > birthdate of someone when you only have the date of death and age. > > How do you figure the birthdate? > > Suppose the person died May 6, 1889, at the age of > 71 years, 7 months, 9 days. > > 1. Write the year, month, day as: ----------- 18890506 > 2. Subtract the age at death: ---------------- 710709 > 3. This gives the figure: ------------------------ 18179797 > 4. Now subtract 8870: -------------------------- 8870 > 5. The result is: ----------------------------------- 18170927 > > Year 1817, 9th month (Sept), 27th day or 27 Sept, 1817 > > I don't know if it is accurate or not. > > The easier but not necessarily more accurate way: > http://longislandgenealogy.com/birth.html or > http://www.progenealogists.com/birthfromdeath.htm > ________ > Logan County ILGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan > > To unsubscribe send a message to: > ILLOGAN-request@Rootsweb.com > with unsubscribe as the subject. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Yes, there is a note to that effect on the Long Island web site. I'm wondering how many calculated birth dates there are in accepted records from before this was proven to be a wonky method...like DAR, old NEGHS and NYGBRs, maybe even TAG. I confess it did not occur to me that the STONECUTTER would be the person doing the calculating, not that he was necessarily any worse than some of the other options... Cheryl
Richard - enlightening information. Thanks for sharing. Bill Stephenson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard A. Pence" <richardpence@pipeline.com> To: <illogan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN] birth date calculator | Dear Cheryl: | | Beware the 8870 system for figuring the date of birth from age at death. It | only works about a third of the time. The recommendation is that you NOT use | calculated dates in your data. At best, such dates can only be considered as | a guess. | | The main reason for this is that there are - were - a number of different | ways used by undertakers/tombstone carvers and newspaper editors to | calculate how old a person was at death. The two most prominent methods were | the "actual method" - which took into consideration the actual number of | days in each month in determining the number of days old a person was at | death - and the "30-day method" - which assumed that all months have 30 days | no matter what. The 8870 method only works if the "all months have 30 days" | method was used to calculate the age at death (or the number of days old was | fewer than the day of the month of death - in which case it's easier to just | do the math for the days, month and years).This 30-day method was actually | taught in school in the latter half of the 19th century. | | There were other elaborate systems used to calculate ages, almost too | complicated to explain (and I've forgotten them anyway <g>). | | In the late 1980s and early 1990s I did a survey of several hundred | instances where the actual birth date was known from other sources and I | used the two above-mentioned methods to calculate the birth date from age | at death found on a tombstone or in an obituary. The result was that the | person who did the age calculations used the "actual days method" about a | third of the time and also used the "30-day method" about a third of the | time. In the rest of the cases neither of these two methods of date | calculation worked, indicating an error was made in the original calculation | or some other method was used. (Note that in the case where the month | preceding death had 30 days, either method would work.) | | For the above reasons, calculated birth dates are frowned upon. Their best | legitimate use is for trying to determine if a "John Smith" whose age and | death date are on his stone in the town cemetery is the same "John Smith" | shown in the town birth records as being born on a given date (and thus | providing documentation as to the names of his parents). | | When I encounter a date of death and age at death but nor birth date, I | enter the year of birth only, the exact date of death and then footnote the | age at death. | | Sadly, a great number of calculated dates posted on the Internet without | noting that the date is calculated. Even though it can be shown that any | calculated birth date has two chances out three of being wrong, others | accept these dates as "fact." | | Richard | | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Cheryl Rothwell" <historysleuth@gmail.com> | To: "ILLOGAN" <illogan@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 3:25 PM | Subject: [ILLOGAN] birth date calculator | | | > Put your math skills to work! [courtesy Morgan Johnson] | > | > HOW TO FIGURE A BIRTHDATE | > | > REMEMBER THIS NUMBER: 8870 | > | > This is not an error: It is the number to remember when you want to find | > the | > birthdate of someone when you only have the date of death and age. | > | > How do you figure the birthdate? | > | > Suppose the person died May 6, 1889, at the age of | > 71 years, 7 months, 9 days. | > | > 1. Write the year, month, day as: ----------- 18890506 | > 2. Subtract the age at death: ---------------- 710709 | > 3. This gives the figure: ------------------------ 18179797 | > 4. Now subtract 8870: -------------------------- 8870 | > 5. The result is: ----------------------------------- 18170927 | > | > Year 1817, 9th month (Sept), 27th day or 27 Sept, 1817 | > | > I don't know if it is accurate or not. | > | > The easier but not necessarily more accurate way: | > http://longislandgenealogy.com/birth.html or | > http://www.progenealogists.com/birthfromdeath.htm | > ________ | > Logan County ILGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan | > | > To unsubscribe send a message to: | > ILLOGAN-request@Rootsweb.com | > with unsubscribe as the subject. | > | > | > ------------------------------- | > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | > ILLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the | > quotes in the subject and the body of the message | | ________ | Logan County ILGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan | | To unsubscribe send a message to: | ILLOGAN-request@Rootsweb.com | with unsubscribe as the subject. | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message | |
Put your math skills to work! [courtesy Morgan Johnson] HOW TO FIGURE A BIRTHDATE REMEMBER THIS NUMBER: 8870 This is not an error: It is the number to remember when you want to find the birthdate of someone when you only have the date of death and age. How do you figure the birthdate? Suppose the person died May 6, 1889, at the age of 71 years, 7 months, 9 days. 1. Write the year, month, day as: ----------- 18890506 2. Subtract the age at death: ---------------- 710709 3. This gives the figure: ------------------------ 18179797 4. Now subtract 8870: -------------------------- 8870 5. The result is: ----------------------------------- 18170927 Year 1817, 9th month (Sept), 27th day or 27 Sept, 1817 I don't know if it is accurate or not. The easier but not necessarily more accurate way: http://longislandgenealogy.com/birth.html or http://www.progenealogists.com/birthfromdeath.htm
If you need to know the date a county began keeping records -- doesn't mean they have every record back to that date of course -- I put the Archives' list up at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/earlyrecords.htm
There is a Sarah E. Nicholes who married Albert Sutley 3 Mar 1867 in Mason Co., IL Lic #809. On the 1870 census they had 2 children. In 1890 where living in Peoria, IL. Joan "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GeraldJones72 Surnames: Jones Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1593.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for the information on the Joneses. As of right now I don't see any connection with the Jones family in Logan Co. But I'll keep this for future use. Thanks Jerry Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ________ Logan County ILGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan To unsubscribe send a message to: ILLOGAN-request@Rootsweb.com with unsubscribe as the subject. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Joan Black Lund jblgene@sbcglobal.net http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~joanlund/
I had no problems with it, don't have dial up of course. And it is new. Presumably as time progresses the number of books will increase. On 8/18/07, Bill Stephenson <woodart@srbfl.com> wrote: > > I tried this site - got two hits on a surname (Bock) I have been > researching for > some time. In one of the documents I was only able to get the title page > - in > the other I was able to get several pages. They all seemed to be .pdf > images > which are very slow downloading with my having dialup (due to the volume > of data > being transferred). I have never even heard of either document in all my > research to date. > > Bill Stephenson > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cheryl Rothwell" <historysleuth@gmail.com> > To: "ILLOGAN" <illogan@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 12:58 PM > Subject: [ILLOGAN] New Resource > > > | FamilySearch's Family History Library, Allen County Public Library and > | the Brigham Young University Harold B. Lee Library are joining to > | digitize and index 100,000 books in the libraries' holdings of local > | and family histories from all across the country. It'll be the largest > | collection of its kind on the Web with free access at the BYU > | library's site. > | > | http://www.lib.byu.edu/fhc/ > | > | It's like Heritage Quest only free. > | ________ > | Logan County ILGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan > | > | To unsubscribe send a message to: > | ILLOGAN-request@Rootsweb.com > | with unsubscribe as the subject. > | > | > | ------------------------------- > | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > | > | > > > ________ > Logan County ILGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan > > To unsubscribe send a message to: > ILLOGAN-request@Rootsweb.com > with unsubscribe as the subject. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
I tried this site - got two hits on a surname (Bock) I have been researching for some time. In one of the documents I was only able to get the title page - in the other I was able to get several pages. They all seemed to be .pdf images which are very slow downloading with my having dialup (due to the volume of data being transferred). I have never even heard of either document in all my research to date. Bill Stephenson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Rothwell" <historysleuth@gmail.com> To: "ILLOGAN" <illogan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 12:58 PM Subject: [ILLOGAN] New Resource | FamilySearch's Family History Library, Allen County Public Library and | the Brigham Young University Harold B. Lee Library are joining to | digitize and index 100,000 books in the libraries' holdings of local | and family histories from all across the country. It'll be the largest | collection of its kind on the Web with free access at the BYU | library's site. | | http://www.lib.byu.edu/fhc/ | | It's like Heritage Quest only free. | ________ | Logan County ILGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan | | To unsubscribe send a message to: | ILLOGAN-request@Rootsweb.com | with unsubscribe as the subject. | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message | |
FamilySearch's Family History Library, Allen County Public Library and the Brigham Young University Harold B. Lee Library are joining to digitize and index 100,000 books in the libraries' holdings of local and family histories from all across the country. It'll be the largest collection of its kind on the Web with free access at the BYU library's site. http://www.lib.byu.edu/fhc/ It's like Heritage Quest only free.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GeraldJones72 Surnames: Jones Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1593.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for the information on the Joneses. As of right now I don't see any connection with the Jones family in Logan Co. But I'll keep this for future use. Thanks Jerry Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GeraldJones72 Surnames: Nichols, Aldridge Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1593.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I gave you the wrong birth year for Charles M Nichols it was 1875. Charles's father George M Nichols was born in 1845 in Fayette Co, IL. George Nichols lived and died in or near Ramsey,IL. The names you listed my be related to Charles and George but I don't know how. I am related to George Monroe Nichols through his wife Elizabeth Ann Aldridge. Elizabeth's mother was Martha Jones. Martha was a great Aunt of mine. I think Charles Nichols and his wife Harriet had no children and I was trying to find his and his wife's final resting place. Jerry Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wdonath Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1593.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Below is a list of references for William Jones from the Lincoln Herald 1859-1867 Name: Date: Page: Col: Event JONES, William 25 Sep 1862 2 5 Capt Williams' Company JONES, William 19 Jul 1866 2 5 Letters @ Lincoln PO JONES, Wm 29 Mar 1866 2 7 Letters @ Lincoln PO JONES, Wm 21 Nov 1867 3 3 Died 16 Nov 1867 JONES, Wm B 31 Jan 1867 3 3 New Attorney JONES, Wm B 04 July 1867 1 1 Ad Attorney Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wdonath Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1593.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Below is a list of the Nichols references in the Lincoln Herald 1859-1867 Name: Date: Page: Col.: Event: NICHOLS, George 15 Jun 1859 4 2 Tax List NICHOLS, J 15 Jun 1859 4 3 Tax List NICHOLS, John 15 Jun 1859 4 2 Tax List NICHOLS, Nathiel G 15 Jun 1859 4 2 Tax List NICHELS, N G 09 May 1860 4 4 Tax List NICHOLS, J H 31 Oct 1860 1 5 Fair Premiums NICHOLS, John 09 May 1860 1 4 Tax List NICHOLS, J 19 Sep 1861 1 4 Tax List NICHOLS, John 19 Sep 1861 1 4 Tax List NICHOLS, N G 19 Sep 1861 2 3 Tax List NICHOLS, Nathaniel G 14 Mar 1861 2 6 Real Estate Tax Sale NICHOLAS, Rev John 04 Dec 1862 3 3 Letters @ Lincoln NICHOLS, G F 12 Jun 1862 4 1 Near Corinth NICHOLS, H 05 Jun 1862 2 2 Tax List NICHOLS, John 07 Aug 1862 2 6 Foreclosure NICHOLS, John 05 Jun 1862 1 3 Tax List NICHOLS, John 05 Jun 1862 2 2 Tax List NICHOLS, Mr 05 Mar 1863 3 2 Local Jottings NICHOLS, Dora 27 Sep 1866 2 6 Letters @ Lincoln PO NICHOLS, Geo T 24 May 1866 2 3 Tax List NICHOLS, John H 24 May 1866 2 1 Tax List NICHOLS, N E 28 Jun 1866 2 8 Elkhart 4th of July NICHOLS, George 13 Jun 1867 2 6 Petit Jurors NICHOLS, George 26 Sep 1867 3 1 Petit Juror NICHOLS, George F 09 May 1867 Suppl-1 2 Tax List NICHOLS, John H 16 May 1867 2 1 Tax List Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GeraldJones72 Surnames: Nichols Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1593.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: No I have not. Charles Nichols was born in Fayette Co, IL Nov 1845. I don't know if the Nichols in Logan Co are related to Charles. So I don't think I can help you. Jerry Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wavy2n1 Surnames: Nichols, Jones Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1593.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have you run across WILLIAM JONES, and Sarah NICHOLS who were married in Logan county on Feb 28, 1866? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GeraldJones72 Surnames: Nichols Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.logan/1593/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I need an obituary lookup for Charles Monroe Nichols. Social security has him dieing Jan 1964. Last known location, 1930 census, was Logan Co Corwin, IL. He registered for WW1 while living in Middletown, IL Sept 2, 1918. His wife was Hattie M Nichols. Occupation was a farmer. I need an obit for his wife as well. Thanks Jerry Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
The oldest is March 31, 1876 so they may have older ones than that?? Marilyn -----Original Message----- From: illogan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:illogan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Steve Royce Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 3:08 PM To: illogan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN] abstracts How far back in time do you think their records go? Marilyn <munderwood@access4less.net> wrote: Joan, I wrote to Logan Co. Title Co., Inc., 507 Pulaski St., Lincoln, Ill. 62656 asking for anything they had on my G.Grandparents there in Lincoln concerning property and they sent a wholleeee bunch of papers! Seems my G.Grandmother was buying the property - 4 lots all together; I found 2 other siblings listed I hadn't found earlier, also who they bought the property from, how much, etc. It wouldn't hurt to check with them and if they don't have the copies, they will probably tell you where to write. Marilyn - Fla. -----Original Message----- From: illogan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:illogan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joan Lund Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 11:04 PM To: illogan@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILLOGAN] abstracts Has anyone ever done this and had any suggest? Joan "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: thegenealogysleuth Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.l ogan/1589.1.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You might check with the title company. They have abstracts for many properties. Abstracts are the history of the property and as such are tremendous resources, may include wills, probate, court battles, etc. If the property has been in the family forever the title company probably does not have the abstract but it is always worth checking. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ________ Logan County ILGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan To unsubscribe send a message to: ILLOGAN-request@Rootsweb.com with unsubscribe as the subject. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Joan Black Lund jblgene@sbcglobal.net http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~joanlund/ ________ Logan County ILGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan To unsubscribe send a message to: ILLOGAN-request@Rootsweb.com with unsubscribe as the subject. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________ Logan County ILGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan To unsubscribe send a message to: ILLOGAN-request@Rootsweb.com with unsubscribe as the subject. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. ________ Logan County ILGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan To unsubscribe send a message to: ILLOGAN-request@Rootsweb.com with unsubscribe as the subject. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message