On Hoblit I ran across a source which says Sarah's father was Michael Hoblit and her mother was Catherine VanVeigle, daughter of Wilhelm VanVeigle. The source also thinks Geoffrey of Anjou was the son of Henry I of England [if you aren't into that you can trust me, he isn't] so I am wary of that source. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

That's the same. You need to know that Thomas died in Sangamon now known as Logan County. Do you have information on Sarah Hoblit's parents, etc.? Thomas came to Logan County with the Hoblit family. They came from Ohio. But Thomas resided in Atlanta Township first. He owned land east of Atlanta. He also owned land near Mt. Pulaski. Before you asked me about their church or any church information that might be useful. They had been members of the Caesars Creek Baptist Church in Ohio. They joined the Predestinarian Baptists Lake Fork Church. I don't know more about that church but perhaps someone else does. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

Cheryl, The only information I have about Sarah's parents is that her father's name was Michael HOBLIT, he was born in Germany in 1755 and died in Woodford County, Kentucky on 3 May 1796. Sarah's mother was Catherine VAN VEIGLE. She was born in 1759 in Pennsylvania and died in 1820 in Wilmington, Ohio. Catherine's father was Wilhelm VAN VEIGLE and he was born in Pennsylvania in 1733 (Pennsylvania Dutch?) and her mother's name was unknown but she was also born in Pennsylvania in 1737. And that is where the line ends. This is a line I haven't worked much on because I have been concentrating on the WILLIAMS end of the John Williams/Marcy Jane Lucas line, so I apologize for the gaps in information. This information was obtained at my local FHC, and I haven't verified anything. Hope this helps open a few doors for you. Shauna

Dear Logan Folk, Thanks for all your past information. My family history is just too sparce in Logan/Sangamon County to justify remaining on your list. Please Unsubscribe me. Thanks again. jdn (:) j. david Neher jdavidn@ibm.net

We have a Sarah HOBLIT, born 4 June 1786 in Pennsylvania, died 13 July 1859 in Logan County, married to a Thomas LUCAS, in our family tree. My husband comes through their daughter Marcy Jane. Are these the folks you're looking for? I don't know about Thomas owning land in Atlanta, however. He was born in Pennsylvania, but died in Sangamon County. Shauna

I believe someone is researching Hoblit. I've run across at least one in my Lucas lines and I'd like to compare notes. Unlike most Lucases, the one with the Hoblit wife spent some time in the Atlanta area and owned land there at his death [altho he lived south of Mt. Pulaski]. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

Today I added a Logan County Cemetery Tombstone Listing page. The link is under the listing of cemeteries. At the moment we have one cemetery but I'd certainly like to add more. I've left plenty of room for more. <g> I also archived queries before January 1 and consolidated some archive files. I may have suggested this before but I print out the archived queries and read them at leisure [and away from the computer] to see if there is anyone I want to contact. That way I don't miss one when I'm in a hurry. Also, I have a list available if a new name pops up in my research. Of course, it is a good idea to skim through the current queries periodically. I have no method for determining when to archive queries except by length of the file. If the file gets too big it is slow to load and, particularly for current files, people are turned off by that. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

And since I'm looking around to see what they've changed, here's how to get info on your Civil War ancestor: Photocopies The researcher can use the regiment number and company letter from this index to obtain further information on a veteran from the published reports or the State Archives record series, Muster and Descriptive Rolls (RS 301.020). The muster and descriptive rolls include rank, age, physical description, occupation, marital status, birthplace, residence, enrollment and mustering out information, and remarks concerning transfers, promotions, injuries, death, or special duty for each soldier. If you have any questions about or problems with this database, please feel free to contact the Archives. We will attempt to answer your question or resolve your difficulty as quickly as possible. If you would like an unofficial and uncertified photocopy of the soldier's entry in the record series, Muster and Descriptive Rolls (RS 301.020), please include your postal mailing address. As a result of limitations on research time, Archives staff can photocopy no more than 2 entries per request. To request photocopies or further information, contact: Illinois State Archives Reference Unit Margaret Cross Norton Building Capitol Complex Springfield, Illinois 62756 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Telephone: (217) 782-3556 Fax: (217) 524-3930 e-mail: lgreen@ccgate.sos.state.il.us Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

Here's the nitty gritty on IRAD searches from the SoS web site: IRAD Research Policy Visiting a Depository Researchers may visit an IRAD depository and examine the records that are available. The seven IRAD depositories are open Monday through Friday. Depositories are closed on Saturdays and Sundays, state holidays, and any weekdays the university libraries are closed. Hours are reduced in June and July. Researchers are urged to call before planning a visit to a depository. Requesting a Search IRAD welcomes mail and telephone requests from researchers interested in genealogy and local history. The regional depositories are unable to receive or send requests by e-mail. Please direct inquiries to the depository holding the records you wish to have searched. Click here for Depository Addresses and click here for a Map of the IRAD Regions. In order for depository staff to conduct a search of the IRAD holdings, researchers should provide the following information: The full names of the persons they are researching The approximate year when these persons are expected to appear in the records The county which created the records Record titles/types to search Include any additional information that may assist in locating the person or information requested (such as township or precinct for searches of tax and election records). Researchers also are asked to limit requests to two (2) names at a time and to wait for a response to one request before submitting another one. Inquiries should be sent directly to the depository holding the records of the county to be searched. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Fees The research services of the IRAD system are provided at no charge. Therefore, when requesting information by mail a self-addressed stamped envelope is not necessary. However, there may be a photocopy fee for which you will be billed. Unless an expenditure limit is set in advance by the researcher, authorization to produce photocopies will be requested for billings that exceed $5.00. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ISU Illinois Regional Archives Depository Williams Hall Illinois State University Campus Box 5500 Normal, IL 61790-5500 Telephone: (309) 452-6027 Hours: Monday – Friday, except state holidays 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m.; 1:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. Champaign DeWitt Ford Grundy Iroquois Kankakee Livingston Logan Marshall McLean Piatt Tazewell Vermilion Woodford Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

Here's the IRAD listing for Logan County. To print you'll probably have to set up for landscape. Result of search for "Logan". BEG END ACCESSION COUNTY TITLE DATE DATE DEP NUMBER ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------- Logan Circuit Court Case Files 1857 1944 ISU 3/0001/01 Logan Insanity and Conservator's Record 1956 1963 ISU 3/0084/04 Logan Probate Sale Record, Personal Property 1931 1963 ISU 3/0084/06 Logan Probate Widow's Relinquishment and Selection Record 1950 1964 ISU 3/0084/03 Logan Probate Inventory Record 1894 1964 ISU 3/0084/02 Logan Probate Will Record 1855 1964 ISU 3/0084/01 Logan Marriage Record 1857 1901 ISU 3/0140/02 Logan Marriage Record Index 1857 1865 ISU 3/0140/01 Logan Feeble-Minded Record 1915 1949 ISU 3/0084/05 Logan School Teachers' Certificate Examination Record (Lincoln) 1877 1891 ISU 3/0115/08 Logan City Council Minutes (Lincoln) 1853 1947 ISU 3/0114/01 Logan Board of Health Record (Lincoln) 1895 1936 ISU 3/0115/04 Logan Local Improvements Board Minutes (Lincoln) 1901 1954 ISU 3/0115/02 Logan Burial Registers (Lincoln) 1891 1899 ISU 3/0115/05 Logan School Fund Examination Record (Lincoln) 1880 1885 ISU 3/0115/07 Logan Plats (Lincoln) 1890 1890 ISU 3/0115/06 Logan Assessor's Books (Lincoln) 1859 1872 ISU 3/0115/01 Logan City Ordinance Record (Lincoln) 1857 1907 ISU 3/0115/03 Logan Village Trustees' Minutes (Elkhart) 1861 1930 ISU 3/0134/01 Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

Digital Microfilm is a relatively new concept to genealogy. One that has provided great interest to Heritage Quest, with its collection of 250,000 titles of genealogy-rich microfilm. Now the company is announcing the beginning of a new era--one of convenience, speed and highly-improved document viewing. Heritage Quest has now imaged the complete 1790, 1900, and 1920 federal census schedules with remaining census years projected to completion by September 1999. This new product line--Family Quest Archives(tm) Digital Microfilm-will be produced on CD-ROM on a roll-by-roll basis (one CD-ROM equivalent to one roll of microfilm) with all the familiar NARA microfilm numbers you've been accustomed to using. Heritage Quest has taken National Archives silver master census films and digitized each and every image. The process has taken time, highly-skilled human resources and the best digital imaging equipment on the market today. But, looking at the features and benefits, the wait and enormous startup expenditures have been worth it. No word on price. My guess would be $20-30 per roll but I've been wrong before. They currently have a long list of microfilm and CDs available. http://www.heritagequest.com Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

A couple folks said they got some sort of marriage record. It was a listing in a book or on a sheet of paper though, not a license. This MAY explain a note to myself which says: 'Marriage Applications Record Book. #1 1857-1865. #2 1865-1878.' I have never been able to determine what I was recording when I wrote that down. Possibly it is this listing that some folks have seen? Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

Perhaps I was mistaken. Perhaps the marriage license that is published in our family tree notebook came from a cousin and perhaps only the 1903 licenses that I have a copy of the front and back of came from the court house. I apologize for giving out bum information to the list. Dorothy ---------- From: clrothwell@mindspring.com To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN-L] Marriage Certificates Date: Sunday, January 31, 1999 10:20 AM I am overwhelmed. I called the Logan County Clerk a few months and she told me she had absolutely no records before 1878, talked about a fire and so on. Obviously, that isn't the case. Cheryl Rothwell

I am overwhelmed. I called the Logan County Clerk a few months and she told me she had absolutely no records before 1878, talked about a fire and so on. Obviously, that isn't the case. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

The Logan County Clerk does not have ANY records before 1878. IRAD has marriage records between 1857 and 1901 but not all records of all marriages. IRAD-Williams Hall IL State Univ, Normal, IL 61761 (309) 452-6027 Counties: Champaign, DeWitt, Ford, Grundy, Iroquois, Kankakee, Livingston, Logan, Marshall, McLean, Piatt, Tazewell, Vermilion, Woodford Other Illinois records: Birth (long) $15.00 Birth (short) $10.00 since Jan 1916 Division of Vital Records Death (long) $15.00 Death (uncertified) $10.00 Division of Vital Records -- appears this is 1943 on Death $0.00 1916-1943 Illinois State Archives Marriage/Divorce $5.00 since Jan 1962 Make money order, certified check or personal check payable to Illinois Department of Public Health. For certified copies, write to the Clerk of the Circuit Court in the county where the marriage license was obtained or divorce was granted. Fees vary. There were a lot of databases available online from the Secretary of State's office but since the Secretary of State became Governor and someone else became Secretary of State they seem to have disappeared. I don't know what is going on there. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

Dear Cheryl, Thanks for the info. on marriage certificates. Beth

Dear Marlyn, Thanks for the response. Maybe I'll write and ask. Beth

I got a copy of an 1871 marriage licenses and almost fell over. It is the only county where I have found that miracle. With the bride and groom's own signatures! Dorothy ---------- From: MJD62@aol.com To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN-L] Marriage Certificates Date: Saturday, January 30, 1999 7:36 PM Doubt if they have absolute marriage certificates, but they do have some records, as we found the evidence of my husband's gr.-grandparents' marriage, which took place in 1859. They seem to have kept records on marriages long before deaths, for some reason or other. Marlyn Duff ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== Logan County is on roll 63 of the 1840 Census.

It may or may not be and there probably won't be much additional info if any. Cheri Salz salzaeck@mtco.com -----Original Message----- From: BSmith7439@aol.com [mailto:BSmith7439@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, January 30, 1999 5:17 PM To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILLOGAN-L] Marriage Certificates Hello. I'm new to this list. Does anyone know if a marriage certificate from 1873 would be available at the county clerk's office? I'm thinking about sending away for a copy of a marriage that took place on Jan. 1, 1873 in Middletown, Logan Co., IL, between William Morrow SILVER and Mary Ann ROACH WEAVER. I just don't know if they would have records back that far. I'd appreciate any info. on this matter. Thanks. Beth BSmith7439@aol.com ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== Logan County is on roll 248 of the 1870 Census.

Doubt if they have absolute marriage certificates, but they do have some records, as we found the evidence of my husband's gr.-grandparents' marriage, which took place in 1859. They seem to have kept records on marriages long before deaths, for some reason or other. Marlyn Duff