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    1. Re: [ILLOGAN-L] Submissions

    3. I noticed in your E-mail that there was a reference to a Musick. I am the great-grandson of Hannah Musick Amberg, daughter of John Thomas Musick and Ann Owen Wren Musick. If you have any information on this Musick family, please let me know. Thank you. Bill Scroggin Chesterfield, mo.

    07/06/1999 01:39:48
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN-L] Submissions

    3. I noticed that there was a Musick mentioned in your E-mail. I am the great-grandson of Hannah Musick Amberg and would like to know if you have any connections to her and/or her parents, John Thomas Musick and Ann Owen Wren Musick. Please let me know. Bill Scroggin Chesterfield, Mo.

    07/06/1999 01:36:51
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN-L] Submissions
    2. Susan McShane

    3. Rootprsuit@aol.com wrote: > > The biography of John Washington Hawes was probably written by his son, Henry > Clay Hawes, who was a great writer. It contains many facts that would be > interesting to people with early pioneer connections in Logan County, > Illinois. In addition, it is also a heartwarming account of a man clearly > esteemed by his son. It is a terrific read! and I feel I am totally unbiased > in this as I am not related to the Hawes in any way. My 4th great > grandmother, Esther Allen Musick Ewing, married 2nd John Washington Hawes. I > am descended from her first marriage. I am very fortunate that I was able to > obtain photocopies of several biographies written by and about the Hawes. > They were early Logan County settlers and married early Logan County settlers > and I think whether they contain "a bit of genealogy" or not, "a little puff" > or not, they are a good find for your web site. When I go to a county > genealogy web site I hope the biographies contained therein will include > genealogies. Would I like genealogy included in a biography about Abraham > Lincoln? You bet! Particularly if I had ancestors in the area. Why do we > search far and wide for obituaries except that they give us this important > lineage data in addition to dates and places. > > Your explanation, I must say, put me off quite a bit. It was insensitive to > someone who believed they were providing your web site with valuable > historical and genealogical data for others to share in. And who are we to > say what is "puffed up?" My regret is that there isn't a more appropriate > place to send these biographies to. > > Sincerely, > Sue A. Ridenhour. > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > Logan County is on roll 116 of the 1850 Census. I agree totally. I find old biographies very interesting to read. Thank you Susan

    07/06/1999 10:56:35
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN-L] MY HASTY REPLY

    3. Anything you can do to help me share this info on the Hawes family, I would appreciate. I also have an autobiography by Henry Clay Hawes and Corrilla Adella Boruff Hawes, husband and wife, long-time residents of Logan County. Thanks for your kind reply! Sue A. Ridenhour.

    07/06/1999 09:58:12
    1. [ILLOGAN-L] 1840/1850 Census CD

    3. BTW, anyone who would like to have their own personal copy of the 1840 and 1850 census images on CD can purchase one from S-K for $20. Normally they only have one census year on the CD but because these these two are fairly small they put them together for us. I know the 1850 census is done but they haven't been put online yet. I suppose the folks responsible for that took off for the holiday like everyone else. <g> I'll let you know as soon as they tell me they are up. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

    07/06/1999 08:33:39
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN-L] MY HASTY REPLY

    3. Sue -- My hide is tough. <g> I haven't read your submissions [or anyone else's] yet...and I'm probably not going to get to them today. There are things I can get around and things I can't. I am working on a way to post basic outline genealogies [NOT on Rootsweb or USGenWeb] of our Logan County lines for the sole purpose of comparing notes and finding others searching the same names. Because of space limitations it would consist of something along the lines of name of first ancestor in that line who came to Logan County and then the names/dates down to your, say, grandparent or the person who left Logan County. I don't want any living people's information published. I'm still working it out. If you are interested in this let me know. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

    07/06/1999 08:23:05
    1. [ILLOGAN-L] MY HASTY REPLY

    3. Sorry to vent on you for something you probably can't control. It seems like a shame to me that some bios are passed up in this manner. Particularly since Logan County does not have a good supply of them. My Logan County ancestors (and connections) were solid, respectable people, and I want to share that with others who are looking. I hope my submissions will be acceptable. Please accept my apology for taking your explanation personally. Sincerely, Sue A. Ridenhour.

    07/05/1999 09:39:30
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN-L] Submissions

    3. The biography of John Washington Hawes was probably written by his son, Henry Clay Hawes, who was a great writer. It contains many facts that would be interesting to people with early pioneer connections in Logan County, Illinois. In addition, it is also a heartwarming account of a man clearly esteemed by his son. It is a terrific read! and I feel I am totally unbiased in this as I am not related to the Hawes in any way. My 4th great grandmother, Esther Allen Musick Ewing, married 2nd John Washington Hawes. I am descended from her first marriage. I am very fortunate that I was able to obtain photocopies of several biographies written by and about the Hawes. They were early Logan County settlers and married early Logan County settlers and I think whether they contain "a bit of genealogy" or not, "a little puff" or not, they are a good find for your web site. When I go to a county genealogy web site I hope the biographies contained therein will include genealogies. Would I like genealogy included in a biography about Abraham Lincoln? You bet! Particularly if I had ancestors in the area. Why do we search far and wide for obituaries except that they give us this important lineage data in addition to dates and places. Your explanation, I must say, put me off quite a bit. It was insensitive to someone who believed they were providing your web site with valuable historical and genealogical data for others to share in. And who are we to say what is "puffed up?" My regret is that there isn't a more appropriate place to send these biographies to. Sincerely, Sue A. Ridenhour.

    07/05/1999 07:50:06
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN-L] Submissions

    3. Bios need to contain more than genealogy. Would you expect a lot of genealogy in a bio of, say, Abraham Lincoln? Puff piece is a journalism term for someone's bio or write up of someone which is designed to show how wonderful they are more than anything else. As to yours I can't say -- I haven't gotten to all of those submitted this weekend. Are they items that were published somewhere as opposed to someone's personal history of grandma? Do they deal in facts or just personal opinion? Do they give historical information or just genealogy? Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

    07/05/1999 06:22:41
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN-L] Submissions

    3. About biographies - I have found that not only biographies but obituaries from the 1800's usually were lengthy and the people were described as fantastic -- just GREAT at everything! I feel that much was added in since the papers covered mostly local items -- they did not have the instant world news as we do today. marlyn

    07/05/1999 05:41:52
    1. [ILLOGAN-L] Submissions

    3. Hope you all are having/had a nice holiday. It's 95° here and my brain is soggy. Some of you have been busy genealogists this long weekend and have uploaded bios, obits and the like. Because of the overload it will no doubt be awhile before I get to all of them. I was NOT a busy genealogist this weekend. In fact, this is the first time I've signed on. :-) Also, please note that we do NOT use genealogies or genealogies attempting to pose as bios, obits, etc. This isn't my rule, although I don't disagree with it, but the USGenWeb and Rootsweb rules. We also do not use 'puff pieces.' Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

    07/05/1999 01:44:43
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN-L] Submissions

    3. I have a question on what genealogies posing as bios are? What are puff pieces? Are mine these type that cannot be submitted? I can certainly chop up the histories I sent in, but I feel it would be a shame. Any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Sue A. Ridenhour.

    07/05/1999 01:13:20
    1. [ILLOGAN-L] GeoCities Web Sites

    3. Thinking of putting your family genealogy on a free GeoCities website? Better read this first: http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/20472.html Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

    06/30/1999 04:32:28
    1. [ILLOGAN-L] Re: ILLOGAN-D Digest V99 #109

    3. In a message dated 28.06.1999 12:18:49 Central Daylight Time, ILLOGAN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > X-Message: #5 > Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 06:08:17 -0400 > From: "ksb9308" <ksb9308@gateway.net> > To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <001501bec14e$256776a0$35562299@oemcomputer> > Subject: [ILLOGAN-L] Pettitt > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Dear Mr. Wilham, thank you for your kind offer. I have done little to no > searching for the Pettitt surname as I have been concentrating on the > Hedges. Ezekiel and Aletha Hedges, grandparents of Mrs. George Pettitt,were > my great great grandparents. The funeral of Mr.Hedges was held in July > 14,1902, at the home of Mrs. George Pettitt of Lincoln. Any small bit of > help you can give me would be greatly appreciated.Sincerely,Kathy Beauchamp

    06/28/1999 05:48:50
    1. [ILLOGAN-L] PAF 4

    3. I don't know what software you are using but PAF 4.0 is now available as a free download. This is the new Windows version of the original Mormon genealogy software. Readers of these lists probably already have their favorite software but this might just the ticket for someone just starting out. The price is right and [remembering back to version 2] it is not a difficult program to use. At the moment it is available at: http://www.familysearch.org Click on "What's New." Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

    06/28/1999 08:12:59
    1. [ILLOGAN-L] Pettitt
    2. ksb9308

    3. Dear Mr. Wilham, thank you for your kind offer. I have done little to no searching for the Pettitt surname as I have been concentrating on the Hedges. Ezekiel and Aletha Hedges, grandparents of Mrs. George Pettitt,were my great great grandparents. The funeral of Mr.Hedges was held in July 14,1902, at the home of Mrs. George Pettitt of Lincoln. Any small bit of help you can give me would be greatly appreciated.Sincerely,Kathy Beauchamp

    06/28/1999 04:08:17
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN-L] 1830 Sangamon County Census
    2. La Rene Kauffman

    3. What is your snail mail address? L. Kauffman -----Original Message----- From: clrothwell@mindspring.com <clrothwell@mindspring.com> To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com <ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, June 27, 1999 10:04 AM Subject: [ILLOGAN-L] 1830 Sangamon County Census >Everyone who is donating to the purchase of the 1830 Sangamon County census >email privately with your snail mail address. Guess what folks! This one is >coming right up too! > >Cheryl Rothwell >LoganCty@mindspring.com >Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project >http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm >Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com >Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com >Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com >Downing query board> >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing >Lucas query board> >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas > > >==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== >The first settlers came to Logan County in 1819. At that time it was Sangamon County. > > >

    06/27/1999 02:11:14
    1. [ILLOGAN-L] Reading Old Handwriting

    3. In preparation for reading those census records you might want to check out this useful web site: http://www.firstct.com/fv/oldhand.html It's from a course on 'Deciphering Old Handwriting' and is quite interesting. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

    06/27/1999 12:06:55
    1. [ILLOGAN-L] 1830 Sangamon County Census

    3. Everyone who is donating to the purchase of the 1830 Sangamon County census email privately with your snail mail address. Guess what folks! This one is coming right up too! Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

    06/27/1999 11:03:27
    1. [ILLOGAN-L] 1850 Census

    3. Good news. The films have arrived [finally!] and should be processed this week. Allowing for the holiday and vacations I still expect it to be online in July sometime. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

    06/27/1999 10:54:56