The state archives databases can be confusing and they are NOT consistent. For example, to search the Black Hawk War database the location is SANGAMON -- there was no Logan County at that time and they didn't list them by town. In the Civil War you can pick a town but be aware that some enlisted from 'Salt Creek' and such, not a town. Punctuation can be a problem too. A search in the Spanish American War database for Mt. Pulaski gets nothing but Mt [no period] Pulaski produces: Result of search for "Mt Pulaski". NAME RANK COMPANY & UNIT RESIDENCE - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- ARMSTRONG, DELBERT H PVT K 1 IL CAV MT PULASKI BOSTIC, JOHN PVT K 1 IL CAV MT PULASKI BOYER, WILLIAM E PVT K 1 IL CAV MT PULASKI CLARK, EZRA PVT K 1 IL CAV MT PULASKI CONNOLLY, WILLIAM E PVT K 1 IL CAV MT PULASKI FIELD, GEORGE D PVT K 1 IL CAV MT PULASKI HAYES, IBETH R PVT K 1 IL CAV MT PULASKI HAYNES, LEE V PVT K 1 IL CAV MT PULASKI HELLER, CHARLES A PVT K 1 IL CAV MT PULASKI HOWARD, WILLIAM H SAD K 1 IL CAV MT PULASKI INGRAM, CALVIN A PVT K 1 IL CAV MT PULASKI MILLER, JOHN E PVT K 1 IL CAV MT PULASKI STINSON, JAMES W PVT M 9 IL INF MT PULASKI The moral is here is play around with them. Don't let them frustrate you. Outsmart them. <g> Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

In a message dated 7/20/99 12:09:12 PM Mountain Daylight Time, clrothwell@mindspring.com writes: << that elusive John Williams... >> I found him, too! And I'm waiting to hear back from the National Archives and Records Administration in Washington, D. C., to see if they have more information about this John Williams. I'm pretty sure he's the one I'm looking for, however. Shauna Riverton, Utah

Go to the main Logan web page and select which part of the state archives you want -- there are links for many of them right there. Here's the main one: http://www.sos.state.il.us/depts/archives/arc_home.html Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

Could you please give the web address for the state archives web site? Thanks, Carolyn Chapman ILLOGAN-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > ILLOGAN-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 123 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [ILLOGAN-L] Civil War Muster Roll [clrothwell@mindspring.com] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from ILLOGAN-D, send a message to > > ILLOGAN-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [ILLOGAN-L] Civil War Muster Roll > Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:03:10 -0400 > From: clrothwell@mindspring.com > To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > > Not too long ago someone asked me about the Civil War Muster Roll available > from the State Archives. At the time I couldn't find the copy I had but now > it has turned up. My example is from Company G of the 106th Infantry. They > send you both pages, rather like the census images with a right and left > page. Those at the top of the list are fairly easy to read -- a magnifying > glass is useful -- but as they progress down the page [at least in my > example] it gets worse to impossible near the bottom. Of course, I asked > for the what turned out to be the first name on the page so perhaps they > weren't too concerned about doing the bottom right for me. > > Here's what it tells me: Downing, George H., rank private, age 29, 5'10" > tall, dark hair, blue eyes, fair complexion, married, a carpenter, born > Pike County, OH, enrolled Aug 5, 1862, by Benj Williams, for three years, > mustered in Sept 14, 1862, at Lincoln by Lt. ?, residence Lincoln, Logan > County, IL, bunch of columns ignored, mustered out July 12, 1865, Pine > Bluff, AR, by Lt. ?, remarks promoted Corpl. > > This is quite different from the National Archives records which were > basically bimonthly check in sheets. I got a few more pages on my great > great grandfather but only because he died and they had to fill out more > forms, one certifying the death and saying he had been paid and the other > inventorying his effects. > > I think the Illinois information is much more personal. It is also free. > For details check out the state archives web site. > > Cheryl Rothwell > LoganCty@mindspring.com > Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm > Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com > Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com > Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com > Downing query board> > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing > Lucas query board> > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

You can send for this information directly from a site on the web. I did and got the response very fast for this type of information. Cheri Salz -----Original Message----- From: clrothwell@mindspring.com [mailto:clrothwell@mindspring.com] Sent: Sunday, July 18, 1999 8:03 PM To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILLOGAN-L] Civil War Muster Roll Not too long ago someone asked me about the Civil War Muster Roll available from the State Archives. At the time I couldn't find the copy I had but now it has turned up. My example is from Company G of the 106th Infantry. They send you both pages, rather like the census images with a right and left page. Those at the top of the list are fairly easy to read -- a magnifying glass is useful -- but as they progress down the page [at least in my example] it gets worse to impossible near the bottom. Of course, I asked for the what turned out to be the first name on the page so perhaps they weren't too concerned about doing the bottom right for me. Here's what it tells me: Downing, George H., rank private, age 29, 5'10" tall, dark hair, blue eyes, fair complexion, married, a carpenter, born Pike County, OH, enrolled Aug 5, 1862, by Benj Williams, for three years, mustered in Sept 14, 1862, at Lincoln by Lt. ?, residence Lincoln, Logan County, IL, bunch of columns ignored, mustered out July 12, 1865, Pine Bluff, AR, by Lt. ?, remarks promoted Corpl. This is quite different from the National Archives records which were basically bimonthly check in sheets. I got a few more pages on my great great grandfather but only because he died and they had to fill out more forms, one certifying the death and saying he had been paid and the other inventorying his effects. I think the Illinois information is much more personal. It is also free. For details check out the state archives web site. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downi ng Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

Not too long ago someone asked me about the Civil War Muster Roll available from the State Archives. At the time I couldn't find the copy I had but now it has turned up. My example is from Company G of the 106th Infantry. They send you both pages, rather like the census images with a right and left page. Those at the top of the list are fairly easy to read -- a magnifying glass is useful -- but as they progress down the page [at least in my example] it gets worse to impossible near the bottom. Of course, I asked for the what turned out to be the first name on the page so perhaps they weren't too concerned about doing the bottom right for me. Here's what it tells me: Downing, George H., rank private, age 29, 5'10" tall, dark hair, blue eyes, fair complexion, married, a carpenter, born Pike County, OH, enrolled Aug 5, 1862, by Benj Williams, for three years, mustered in Sept 14, 1862, at Lincoln by Lt. ?, residence Lincoln, Logan County, IL, bunch of columns ignored, mustered out July 12, 1865, Pine Bluff, AR, by Lt. ?, remarks promoted Corpl. This is quite different from the National Archives records which were basically bimonthly check in sheets. I got a few more pages on my great great grandfather but only because he died and they had to fill out more forms, one certifying the death and saying he had been paid and the other inventorying his effects. I think the Illinois information is much more personal. It is also free. For details check out the state archives web site. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

>From the State Archives web site: Photocopies Since the Archives record series, Black Hawk War Records (RS 301.007) has been found to be grossly inaccurate, the Archives provides copies of the soldier's entry in Whitney's book. For each veteran, the book's entries generally include name, rank, unit, place and dates of enrollment, and remarks concerning his service. The information following the rolls includes additional history on the unit and its individuals. As a result of limitations on staff research time, no more than two names can be searched per request. When making a request, please include your postal mailing address as well as the soldier's name, unit, place of enrollment, and war of service. To request photocopies or further information, contact: Illinois State Archives Reference Unit Margaret Cross Norton Building Capitol Complex Springfield, Illinois 62756 Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

Does anyone know how I could find out more information about a possible ancestor that I found on the muster rolls for the Black Hawk War? There is a John Williams listed as a private under Col. Elkins and I wonder if there is some "enlistment" record that they needed to fill out that would list their next of kin, age, and other personal information. Hope someone can help. Shauna Riverton, Utah

Due to some sort of glitch I lost a handful of messages. If you emailed me personally and I did not respond you will have to resend. There is no way to retrieve the lost messages. I get the digest version of this list as well as the regular version so I'll pick up any lost list messages there. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

This is not a virus but a trojan. See what Microsoft has to say about it so you can be alert for this one: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/1999/07-08orifice.htm Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

I want to apologize for posting my WTB items on county history. I just found the Classified section on the Rootsweb. I hope that I didn't upset anyone for not using the proper site/list. Surnames: BIRKS, SHORES, HUSTON, LOWRY, MARTIN, HORN, etc. Laurie

In a message dated 15.07.1999 13:49:06 Central Daylight Time, ILLOGAN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Does anybody recognize either the ROACH or CAPP names? I noticed that there > were CAPPs among the early settlers of Logan Co. > > Please let me know if you recognize either family and/or have any idea of > Mary Ann's relationship to the CAPPs. I was born in Lake Fork Township, and passed through the Mt. Pulaski grade and high schools. I remember when I was small (in grade school), that there were still people by the name of Capps living in Mt. Pulaski. Perhaps a letter to someone older than I am (60) would bring results. You might try Bill Bryson or John Bates of Mt. Pulaski Township Historical Society. Somehow, I remember Capps as owning a greenhouse or other business. JOHN WILHAM

Don't let my thoughts change your mind or confuse you. I'm no expert. I think perhaps whether the person was designated as a servant, etc. might depend on how diligent the census taker was. But you should never close the door on any possibilities. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

Dear Cheryl, That's true. I'll keep that in mind. Beth

Is there anyone willing to part with any of these used materials: A HISTORY OF JOHNSON CO. IL (Chapman) HISTORY OF JOHNSON CO. (Mount) 1992 JOHNSON CO. COMMISSIONERS' RECORDS, 1813-1817, VOL A (Sistler) PRAIRE PIONEERS OF ILLINOIS VOL I & II HISTORY OF EDWARD, LAWRENCE & WABASH CO. IL EARLY HISTORY OF PIONEERS, MARRIGAES, AND PATRONS LIST FROM 1813-1880 compiled by Elsie R. Swartz 1973 HISTORY OF WAYNE & CLAY CO., IL illustrated, Chicago Globe Pubs. Co., Historical Pub. 1894 1878 HISTORY OF LOGAN COUNTY, IL HISTORY OF LOGAN COUNTY, IL 1982 HISTORY OF LOGAN CO. IL (Stringer, 1911) HISTORY OF LOGAN CO. IL (Inter-State pub. Co., Chicago, 1886) 150 YEARS OF MT. PULASKI 1836-1986 125 YEARS YESTERYEARS OF MT. PULASKI IL; 1961 HISTORY OF THE EARLY SETTLERS SANGAMON CO. IL; Centennial Record 100 YEARS OF MT. PULASKI, 1836-1936 Am I allowed to ask this question? If not, I apologize. I also apoligize to anyone on another list receiving duplicates of this query. Laurie HisServants@prodigy.net

The 1878 History of Logan County is available from the Logan County G&H Society. There is a reprint company that will do the Stringer history. Actually that is two volumes. It is pricey. I am not familiar with >HISTORY OF LOGAN CO. IL (Inter-State pub. Co., Chicago, 1886) What is 125 Yesteryears? There was the Green book and maybe this is the paper Harry Wible put out? Never mind, I pulled out my copy. 125 Yesteryears of Mt. Pulaski is indeed Harry's souvenir edition of the Times News. I had no idea the name. It is interesting but I don't know if it is particularly useful. The Green book is another story. [officially: AND SHE HELD FORTH HER HAND by Emagene Veech Green -- always referred to as 'the Green book' for its green cover as well as Emagene's name]. You are allowed to ask this question. The rule is you can't sell anything on the list. I saw nothing about buying. I am going to suggest you check out the Sangamon County pages. There's a link on the Logan pages, neighboring counties, if you don't have the address. Go to the pages which link to books and check the listing where it says something like "I want them all" for the reprints of the Stringer histories. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

The Capp that is a Logan County original is Jabez and he settled in Mt. Pulaski. They came from England and apparently went first to the Springfield area before Jabez left for better country [take that Mary Ann! <g>] in what was to become Logan County. The original generation, including Jabez, would be too old for this person. I looked through Jabez' genealogy and I don't see any Roaches or G. W.s. However, the Capps family included the following children: Jabez, Ebenzer, Mary Ann, Susan, Sarah, John, Charles, Benjamin, Thomas. The 1878 Logan County history has a George Capps but he was living in in Mt. Pulaski and was a child. There are quite a few Roaches. I note the Capps have two children living with them, not Capps. They could be children of deceased relatives although two with two different surnames tends to point toward service workers I would think. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

Dear Cheryl, Thanks very much for your help. Often when I've seen workers living in a household on the census, their position was noted - such as servant, clerk, etc. That's what made me think that maybe they adopted Mary Ann. I'll keep looking!! Beth

The state has copies of the state censuses of 1820, 1825, 1830, 1835, 1840, 1845, 1855, 1865. [I don't think there was an 1850 or 1860.] These might be useful in tracking folks who fall into the cracks between censuses. http://www.sos.state.il.us/depts/archives/serv_sta.html Here's an example: STATE CENSUS. 1865. 35 vols. Partial index. The 1865 population census for Illinois was compiled in each county by census commissioners appointed by the county commissioners courts and filed with the Secretary of State. The census was authorized under an 1845 act, as amended in 1855 (Rev. Stat. 1845, p. 89; L. 1855, p. 151). Each county return includes for each household name of head of household; numbers of free white males and females in each decennial age group (e.g., ages 0-9, 10-19, 20-29); numbers of male and female Negroes; total number of inhabitants in household; number of males eligible for duty in state militia; type (e.g., blacksmith shop, wheelwright shop) and valuation of products of manufacturing establishments; valuations of livestock, grain products, and other agricultural products; tons of coal produced annually; pounds of wool products; and numbers of flour and gristmills, sawmills, and distilleries. Also included in each return are numbers of universities, academies, grammar schools, and common schools and number of pupils enrolled in each. Each return also includes signature of census commissioner certifying return, date certified, and occasional recapitulations of totals. Legal subdivisions also are indicated such as cities, towns, and townships and recapitulations frequently are given for them. Returns are included for the following counties: <snip - it includes Logan> 1865 This final state census (R.S. 103.010) currently is indexed only partially. County and township residences are necessary for efficient searches. Searches of unindexed townships with populations exceeding 2,500 cannot be performed because of limitations on staff research time. Again only the names of the heads of households are given. Guidelines for Research at the Illinois State Archives Genealogical research inquiries regarding state and related federal governmental records should be directed to: Illinois State Archives Reference Unit Margaret Cross Norton Building Capitol Complex Springfield, IL 62756 Telephone: (217) 782-3556 Fax: (217) 524-3930 The Archives welcomes inquiries. Researchers can request copies of documents by mail, by fax, by telephone, or by personal visit. A number of the Archives' record series holdings are particularly useful to the genealogist and many have been indexed for rapid access. Archives reference staff will search these indexed records and provide unofficial and uncertified photocopies of requested records. In making requests please follow the guidelines below. Request no more than two specific names or items per mailing. For name searches try to provide 1) the individual's complete name, age, and birthplace, 2) county and township names, and 3) the name of the record to be searched as well as its date span. Wait for a response to one request before submitting another one. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

Atlanta is not my strong point. Any number of folks here know more about the Atlanta area than I do, have researched there and so forth. It sounds like this family was only in Logan County very briefly. By 1870 they were in Kansas -- I assume that means you found them on the census. Have you checked the 1860 Logan census to see if they were in Logan County then? Can you link them to another family -- why did they stop in Logan County at all? Have you checked Rootweb to see if there are surname mailing lists for Hueston/Houston? You never know where you might find information. Also look for a GenConnect board. You can use the surname resource page there also. http://surhelp.rootsweb.com/srchall.html is a place where you can search all sorts of places for the surname of your choice. There is always World Family Tree, Family Tree Maker and similiar pages. Keep in mind that that information is only as good as the submitter. However, you might get some leads. Ditto the LDS site. While there run a check through their IGI files -- those are legitimate sources. I read the genealogy stuff online beginning in 1987 on CompuServe. I made a Clark connection about 1991 and then nothing until early 1998...at the same time I hit the mother lode offline on two different lines. Frankly, I had about given up on some of those lines. Now I have more information than I can get entered. You have to just hang in there... That reminds me, I should post a couple queries myself... Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas