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    1. Re: [ILLOGAN-L] CaCulman
    2. That's it - I did have the right address except for the htm at the end - Thanks a bunch. Maxine

    07/30/1999 10:52:30
    1. [ILLOGAN-L] CaCulman
    2. Would the person who had the webpage where you can go from one gen page to another - send the web address to me . Maxine

    07/30/1999 06:48:22
    1. [ILLOGAN-L] marriage information
    2. M & S Thomas
    3. Hi Everyone, I am still trying to find the first marriage for my grandfather. Today I received his marriage certificate from Mason county for his second marriage which was to my grandmother. It shows that he was living in Bloomington, McLean county and was born in Lincoln, Logan county, Illinois. However, it lists his age as 33 on his last birthday of January 1933. This doesn't match with the other information we have that he was born in either 1892 or 1894. I am hoping that someone can tell me how I can find out information about his first marriage. I know that his name was John Wesley Hickey and that he was the son of John Hickey and Mary Mowen. His parents were born, lived and died in Lincoln, Logan county, Illinois. The family stories are that he married when he was very young the first time, which would have been as early as 1910 (using 1892 as birthdate) late as 1933 when he married my grandmother. Does Illinois have a marriage index for all the counties? Is it possible to find marriage information if you don't know the date of the marriage nor the bride's information? I really think the marriage was in Logan county, but it could have been McLean as well. Thank you for any assistance or information. Sharon mnsajt@cwix.com

    07/26/1999 09:16:03
    1. [ILLOGAN-L] most helpful
    2. Linda Stewart
    3. I belong to several lists and the ones from Illinois seem to be the most helpful. I am always finding URL's to search for information. Some have been useful and some haven't, but the more places we can look the easier it is for the ones of us who live in another state. Of course, maybe Illinois HAS more sites that are helpful. Either way, Illinois is a great place to have ancestor's come from. Thanks. Linda _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

    07/26/1999 07:02:38
    1. [ILLOGAN-L] Another link
    2. This one might be considered, by some, competition. I figure there is no need to duplicate efforts -- if we all waste time doing the same thing there won't be any time to do new things. http://usgennet.org/~alhnilus/index.html Scroll through. Some of the links are good or interesting and some are not -- like everywhere else. You might find something there you haven't seen elsewhere. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

    07/26/1999 06:27:18
    1. [ILLOGAN-L] Vital Records
    2. Here's an online link you might want for early record dates as compiled by IRAD: http://usgennet.org/~alhnilus/kimco.html >From there you can link to other information on vital records. Another link of use [which might be on the web page but I've forgotten - if it isn't I'll probably put it up there]: http://www.tbox.com/isgs/ilresource.html This takes you a link page of the Illinois State Genealogical Society. You might want to bookmark it as Joan adds to it periodically. It's very hot and I've apparently broken my toe so my activities are generally limited to sitting here [walking is extemely painful] and going through all the notes I haven't had time to get to before. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

    07/26/1999 06:18:13
    1. [ILLOGAN-L] Genealogy Search Tool
    2. >From Dick Eastman's Online Genealogy newsletter [and it works]: MultiGen Charles A. Culman says that he had frustrations when trying to search different genealogy databases on the Web. Each database has its own interface with its own set of commands. This makes it difficult to switch from one to the other. Perhaps even worse, it is easy to overlook a vital database. Culman decided that he could invent a better method. "Primarily, I built the tool for my own use," said Culman. "When I couldn't find anything on the web to do the same thing (a Dogpile for genealogy), I thought others might like it as well. I am also enjoying the ego boost of generating a lot of hits. And, I admit, I think it would be great to have someone come along and pay me to put an ad on the page, but I think that's a pipe dream." MultiGen is simplicity itself. Go to the MultiGen home page, fill in an ancestor's name, click on which of the seven databases you wish to search and then MultiGen does the search for you. You didn't find the desired information on the first database? All you need is two mouseclicks to search the next database. Simply click BACK in your Web browser and then click on the next database in the list. The seven databases available are: Ancestry.com, Family Tree Maker, Gendex, Genealogy.com, JewishGen FamilyFinder, the LDS FamilySearch, and the Roots-L surname list. MultiGen is entirely web-based; it does not require any special software in your computer. It should work with any modern web browser on any PC, Macintosh or even on WebTV. MultiGen is available at: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/CACulman/MultiGen.htm Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

    07/25/1999 11:59:16
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN-L] Index to Guardian's Case Files
    2. I assume by 'copy' you mean transcription. [If you are talking about actual images you can skip the rest of this paragraph.] Be alert for whole columns left blank and and perhaps left out of the document. Some enumerators were more diligent than others. Some transcriptions ASSUME you aren't interested in certain columns, were shortened due to space restrictions, etc. The transcription itself should contain a preface or some such with explains the columns in the transcription. 1860 census columns: dwelling number family number name of every person whose usual place of abode on 1 June 1860 was with this family age sex color profession, occupation, or trade of each person over 15 value of real estate owned value of personal estate owned place of birth naming state, territory or country married within the year in school within the year persons over 20 unable to read & write deaf & dumb, blind, insane, idiotic, pauper, or convict There was a second page of the 1860 census pertaining to slaves which would not apply in Logan County. 1880 census columns: [first two might not be on a transcription] street name house number dwelling number family number name of every person whose place of abode on 1 June 1880 was in this family color sex age month born if during census year relationship to head of this household single married widowed/divorced married during year profession, occupation or trade months unemployed this year currently ill? if so specify blind deaf & dumb idiotic insance disabled school this year cannot read cannot write birthplace birthplace of father birthplace of mother Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

    07/25/1999 11:46:34
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN-L] Index to Guardian's Case Files
    2. Ronald Spahr
    3. At 10:42 PM 7/24/99 -0400, you wrote: >I recently received a copy of the 1880 and 1860 census. What are the >different columns? What does md stand for as a status in the family? Also >why do some have (s) after the status? Thanks for any help. Darlene Hi Darlene, Md ='s Married (s) ='s single

    07/24/1999 09:45:36
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN-L] Index to Guardian's Case Files
    2. Darlene Lercher Smith
    3. I recently received a copy of the 1880 and 1860 census. What are the different columns? What does md stand for as a status in the family? Also why do some have (s) after the status? Thanks for any help. Darlene

    07/24/1999 08:42:37
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN-L] OBITUARIES
    2. Thanks for the info I will try to find out about the libraries in Lincoln or Atlanta. Sue.

    07/24/1999 06:00:50
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN-L] OBITUARIES
    2. Carolyn H. Chapman
    3. Obituaries for Eminence Township and the town of Atlanta were published in the Atlanta Argus, often with great detail. The only means I've found for generally accessing these is to go to the library in Lincoln or the Atlanta library. I've been fortunate in having a grandmother (Parrie Hieronymus Houghton) who clipped obituaries and pasted them in big scrapbooks. It's been surprising how often Grandma's scrapbook has just what I'm looking for. Of course they have to be typescripted to use in current documents, but it's been fun to find them. Carolyn Chapman Rootprsuit@aol.com wrote: > I need to find out where the obituaries are kept for the Eminence Twp./Town > of Atlanta area of Logan County. Did Atlanta have it's own paper back in the > mid 1800's to early 1900's? Or did the paper in Lincoln usually carry these > obituaries? > > Also what records are available for "little cost" at the Logan County > Courthouse? I understand some records can be copied and others cost $3.00 - > $5.00 each. What is available for free (or a minimal copy expense) and what > years? I plan on going in person to get what I need, but need a plan in mind > of what I'm going to accomplish. > > Thanks for your help. > Sue A. Ridenhour. > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > Logan County is on roll 248 of the 1870 Census.

    07/24/1999 01:24:18
    1. [ILLOGAN-L] Poll Books
    2. This is the last book. It is called Snow Birds. Poll Books of Sangamo County 1821-30. There is an alphabetical surname only index. The book contains 194 pages and costs $12. It is an older book, published in 1983, and the the printing on some pages is a bit blurry but, in general, it is fine. This book lists all the elections during that period and who voted. In some cases it tells you who they voted for. Apparently they didn't have secret ballots in early Sangamon County. What is in each record depends on the election. There is also some other copy included such as the Early Logan Settlers List which appears on the web site [and should NOT be considered a complete list]. It is not clear where these records exist, possibly IRAD. In all of these books I have taken their word for the fact that the records are at IRAD. Things change and you should check. The holdings of IRAD are listed on the State Archives web site. I'm going to use Downing as it is only a surname index and other names produce too many page numbers. For Downing there are three pages: 28, 71, 88. Page 28 tells me Robert Downing voted in Union Precinct at the house of Thomas Constant on August 2, 1824. This is consistent with the fact that he settled along Salt Creek in 1822. Page 71 tells me the same Robert Downing voted in Salt Creek Precint at the home of Robert Mc lure [Mc Clure in other places] on November 18, 1826. Bowmans, Turleys, Buckles are among the voters there on that day. The election was for Sheriff and they probably voted for John Taylor as he won with 17 votes. Garret Elkins had four votes and William Kendal had none. Page 88 tells me Robert Downing was a candidate for Constable in the election of August 6, 1827. The election was held at the home of John Buckles and called for the election of two Justices of the Peace and two Constables. No voter list survives. Robert did not get elected. I find this book very interesting reading. I don't know if I would list it high in usefulness unless you have no other information. The name 'Snow Birds' refers to it covering the period before the 'winter of the deep snow,' ie, the winter of 1830-31. It is quite a stretch but I didn't name it. This is the last book that I purchased. There are many other books available from Sangamon County and if your ancestors were in Sangamon County you will want to look over the whole list. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

    07/24/1999 11:56:26
    1. [ILLOGAN-L] Divorce Index
    2. Yes, there is a divorce index. It covers 1825-1899 -- remember, only until Feb 1839 is what is now Logan County included. The book has 72 pages and alphabetical index. It costs $12. The book itself seems to be alphabetical by the petitioner -- called complainant in those days. Of course, in most cases, the complainant and the defendant have the same last name. The actual records are available from IRAD in Springfield. The listing includes alias, separate maintenance and name changes. Interestingly, there are women, even then, who took their maiden name back. I don't know anyone who got a divorce during that period so I am using a name at random. I don't know that they are from Logan County. Oct 1838 Foster, George N. Foster, Charlotte D/274 The complaint was 'recorded' in October 1838 [I don't know if this means filed or it is the date judgement was issued] by George N. Foster. There is a column for case number but none is listed in this case. Charlotte Foster is the defendant and the case is in volume D, page 274. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

    07/24/1999 11:33:08
    1. [ILLOGAN-L] Marriage Records 1821-1840
    2. Returning to books from the Sangamon County Genealogical Society, this is Marriage Records and covers the period when Logan County was part of Sangamon County. It has 74 pages includes an alphabetical listing by groom followed by a bride's index, an alphabetical list of brides which refers you to the groom's record. The cost of this book is $8. It is not clear whether you can actually obtain copies of these marriage records. The preface says the books are very fragile -- and that was 1987. They also mention DAR marriage records 1834-1840 available at the Illinois State Historical Library which is in Springfield. Example: DOWNING, James MARROW, Ruth 07 Jun 1825 This is from the groom's index and this contains an error. The bride's name was Ruth Morrow. I have seen this error in other places so my guess is the actual record is incorrect [rather than a typo in transcription]. I haven't seen the actual record and I don't know for sure where the error occurs. Other sources give June 9 as the wedding date and that may be correct. According to the preface, the date listed may be either the date of the license or the date the marriage was recorded. Thus they may have gone to Springfield and obtained the license on June 7, returned to Salt Creek and married on June 9. If you have ancestors who married in what is now Sangamon County between 1821 and 1840 you will probably want this book. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

    07/24/1999 11:15:48
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN-L] Index to Guardian's Case Files
    2. In my exhaustion I made an error. If no one caught it is it an error? <g> Thomas Lucas married Sarah Hoblit. The Sarah Lucas who married Michael Mann was born a Bowman. I have both Bowmans and Lucases in my lines and they didn't have a lot of variety in their names. As for Sarah Hoblit Lucas Turley, there is apparently some dispute over whether she married once more or twice. I have some printed discussion on that if you are interested. Actually, I believe I have it somewhere on my computer also. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

    07/24/1999 08:43:27
    1. [ILLOGAN-L] OBITUARIES
    2. I need to find out where the obituaries are kept for the Eminence Twp./Town of Atlanta area of Logan County. Did Atlanta have it's own paper back in the mid 1800's to early 1900's? Or did the paper in Lincoln usually carry these obituaries? Also what records are available for "little cost" at the Logan County Courthouse? I understand some records can be copied and others cost $3.00 - $5.00 each. What is available for free (or a minimal copy expense) and what years? I plan on going in person to get what I need, but need a plan in mind of what I'm going to accomplish. Thanks for your help. Sue A. Ridenhour.

    07/24/1999 07:46:04
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN-L] Index to Guardian's Case Files
    2. Per LDS records, Sarah Hoblit, who married Thomas Lucas - had two more husbands after he died - died 13JUL1859 in Logan Co., IL Marlyn

    07/23/1999 05:06:47
    1. [ILLOGAN-L] Thoughts on Records
    2. Here are some thoughts on genealogical records written by another county coordinator. I don't think he'll convince them... WHY SHOULD A GENEALOGY SOCIETY GIVE RECORDS AWAY? by Jeffrey A. Bockman, M.B.A. <jeffb@anet-chi.com> <http://www.anet-chi.com/~jeffb/index.html> [Jeffrey Bockman is the president of the DuPage County (Illinois) Genealogical Society. This article was originally published in the FGS FORUM, Winter 1997, page 25, and is reprinted here with the author's kind permission.] There is a vast amount of family history currently available on the Internet and on CDROM that is incorrect, undocumented, or fictitious. Yet, with the growing interest in family history many searchers will stop with these easy-to-find "instant families." David E. Rencher stated in "Where In Cyberspace Are We?" (FORUM 9:2 (Summer 1997) page 3), that presently the Internet offers a search environment but "the field of electronic genealogy . . . has yet to create a research environment." Genealogy societies should be leading the way in creating a research environment by providing information so that verifying an "instant family" is as convenient as finding the family in the first place. But how? One way in which societies can help to create a research environment is to rethink traditional ways of distributing and sharing the information that they compile. The traditional method of sharing is to publish and the process is: 1. Compile information from vital records, cemeteries, ledger books, and other sources, and enter into a word or data processing program; then format and proofread. 2. Take the manuscript to a printer and have it published. 3. Store, advertise, and hopefully sell the resulting publication. A closer look at this process shows while step 1 is critical in getting the information in a form that can be shared with others, the dissemination, steps 2 and 3, is open to question. Step 2 benefits a printer/publisher while step 3 benefits a society -- but only if sales are good and income exceeds expenses. This traditional procedure has other flaws. First, distribution potential is limited. A user benefits if he or she can find the publication, but it may only be available from the society by mail or at local workshops. If it is advertised in national genealogical publications, it competes with hundreds, perhaps thousands of similar titles. Even library use is limited: users may find the book only in a local, regional or national library which specializes in genealogy. Thus, a researcher could spend more time and money trying to locate the information than in actually using the information. The market is limited, too. Few people want to purchase a publication to look up only one or two events. They have other options. They can ask the county clerk or the cemetery office to find one or two entries. Or, they may write to the genealogical society who offers searches as a courtesy or for a slight fee. A third drawback is the risk involved. The society takes all of the risk. It has to determine print quantity based upon printer volume costs, anticipated demand, and storage facilities. The society must advertise and give free copies to some libraries or for book reviews. Society volunteers must retrieve books from storage, haul, unpack, and display them at conferences, then box and return unsold books to storage. If publishing, storage and advertising costs, and the wear and tear on volunteers exceed profits, the risk has been too great. This traditional distribution channel, with its flaws, should cause societies to reexamine their ultimate goal in compiling and distributing information. If society goals are (a) to preserve and make available genealogical information; (b) to promote an interest in genealogy; and (c) to encourage proper research techniques; there may be a better way to achieve them. The target audience for the dissemination of information in published form is comprised of the society's members, people doing research in the jurisdiction, and patrons of selected libraries. This is really a very small audience. If a society seeks to share information with the widest possible audience, why not share with everybody? The Internet is the new communications frontier. Anyplace in the world is only nanoseconds away. If every society and county government put its records online a researcher who only needs information about a single event would be able look it up from home or the local library with Internet access or at an "Internet coffee shop." Ideally, if the person found the desired event from a detailed online index, he could order a copy of the certified record by entering credit card information or obtaining an invoice number. . . While many societies are beginning to discuss this issue they look at it from a personal or society viewpoint rather than from a global viewpoint. Instead, consider a wider range of benefits: Government Agencies: o Time savings from not having to look in book indexes. o Faster access by using the electronic index. o Only activity would be with paid certificate requests. o Possibly less floor space needed for index storage and access. Genealogical Society o No financial risk from over-printing. o No handling and storage, save time and costs. o Less income but less need to purchase other indexes. o Improved recognition and wider audience with home page link. o Requests for hard copy can be automated and printed on demand. Global Audience o Faster, easier access to useful research without leaving home. o Eliminates need to review online library catalogs trying to find the closest copy of a printed index. o Information could be annotated to show corrections and source. Members o Attend sessions and socialize rather than sitting in a hallway selling books. o Reduce wait for replies and save the cost of SASEs. o Achieve immediate action and results on new clues or ideas. o Could actually spend time doing research on their own family. If one of the purposes of a genealogical society is to help make information readily available then what better method is there? Societies are nonprofit organizations. What money they do realize from publication sales often goes to purchase other publications for the use of members. But there are other options. Money can be earned through workshop, class, or lecture fees. Profits can be used to disseminate information more widely: by providing additional Internet resources, Internet access at the local library or society library or office, or supporting the storage and access cost of the county GenWeb site, a society home page, or online vital record storage. Once a society is convinced of the benefits of this new and more Effective way of disseminating information, it can start small and work up to more ambitious projects: 1. Provide the following information on-line: o Places to do research, hours and holdings. o Handy guide to the type of historical information that is available. o Access instructions to vital records or the indexes. o Queries. 2. Compile indexes and make them easily available. 3. Assist counties and repositories in getting images of the actual records online with easy search and retrieval systems. If everyone would "do for others as you would like them to do for you," we could all make electronic genealogy work for us. We could be making verification of information now available in Internet's search environment quick and easy. We could be establishing research environments to complement and enhance the existing search environment, and we could be turning searchers into researchers. WHY SHOULD A GENEALOGY SOCIETY GIVE RECORDS AWAY? by Jeffrey A. Bockman, M.B.A. <jeffb@anet-chi.com> <http://www.anet-chi.com/~jeffb/index.html> [Jeffrey Bockman is the president of the DuPage County (Illinois) Genealogical Society. This article was originally published in the FGS FORUM, Winter 1997, page 25, and is reprinted here with the author's kind permission.] There is a vast amount of family history currently available on the Internet and on CDROM that is incorrect, undocumented, or fictitious. Yet, with the growing interest in family history many searchers will stop with these easy-to-find "instant families." David E. Rencher stated in "Where In Cyberspace Are We?" (FORUM 9:2 (Summer 1997) page 3), that presently the Internet offers a search environment but "the field of electronic genealogy . . . has yet to create a research environment." Genealogy societies should be leading the way in creating a research environment by providing information so that verifying an "instant family" is as convenient as finding the family in the first place. But how? One way in which societies can help to create a research environment is to rethink traditional ways of distributing and sharing the information that they compile. The traditional method of sharing is to publish and the process is: 1. Compile information from vital records, cemeteries, ledger books, and other sources, and enter into a word or data processing program; then format and proofread. 2. Take the manuscript to a printer and have it published. 3. Store, advertise, and hopefully sell the resulting publication. A closer look at this process shows while step 1 is critical in getting the information in a form that can be shared with others, the dissemination, steps 2 and 3, is open to question. Step 2 benefits a printer/publisher while step 3 benefits a society -- but only if sales are good and income exceeds expenses. This traditional procedure has other flaws. First, distribution potential is limited. A user benefits if he or she can find the publication, but it may only be available from the society by mail or at local workshops. If it is advertised in national genealogical publications, it competes with hundreds, perhaps thousands of similar titles. Even library use is limited: users may find the book only in a local, regional or national library which specializes in genealogy. Thus, a researcher could spend more time and money trying to locate the information than in actually using the information. The market is limited, too. Few people want to purchase a publication to look up only one or two events. They have other options. They can ask the county clerk or the cemetery office to find one or two entries. Or, they may write to the genealogical society who offers searches as a courtesy or for a slight fee. A third drawback is the risk involved. The society takes all of the risk. It has to determine print quantity based upon printer volume costs, anticipated demand, and storage facilities. The society must advertise and give free copies to some libraries or for book reviews. Society volunteers must retrieve books from storage, haul, unpack, and display them at conferences, then box and return unsold books to storage. If publishing, storage and advertising costs, and the wear and tear on volunteers exceed profits, the risk has been too great. This traditional distribution channel, with its flaws, should cause societies to reexamine their ultimate goal in compiling and distributing information. If society goals are (a) to preserve and make available genealogical information; (b) to promote an interest in genealogy; and (c) to encourage proper research techniques; there may be a better way to achieve them. The target audience for the dissemination of information in published form is comprised of the society's members, people doing research in the jurisdiction, and patrons of selected libraries. This is really a very small audience. If a society seeks to share information with the widest possible audience, why not share with everybody? The Internet is the new communications frontier. Anyplace in the world is only nanoseconds away. If every society and county government put its records online a researcher who only needs information about a single event would be able look it up from home or the local library with Internet access or at an "Internet coffee shop." Ideally, if the person found the desired event from a detailed online index, he could order a copy of the certified record by entering credit card information or obtaining an invoice number. . . While many societies are beginning to discuss this issue they look at it from a personal or society viewpoint rather than from a global viewpoint. Instead, consider a wider range of benefits: Government Agencies: o Time savings from not having to look in book indexes. o Faster access by using the electronic index. o Only activity would be with paid certificate requests. o Possibly less floor space needed for index storage and access. Genealogical Society o No financial risk from over-printing. o No handling and storage, save time and costs. o Less income but less need to purchase other indexes. o Improved recognition and wider audience with home page link. o Requests for hard copy can be automated and printed on demand. Global Audience o Faster, easier access to useful research without leaving home. o Eliminates need to review online library catalogs trying to find the closest copy of a printed index. o Information could be annotated to show corrections and source. Members o Attend sessions and socialize rather than sitting in a hallway selling books. o Reduce wait for replies and save the cost of SASEs. o Achieve immediate action and results on new clues or ideas. o Could actually spend time doing research on their own family. If one of the purposes of a genealogical society is to help make information readily available then what better method is there? Societies are nonprofit organizations. What money they do realize from publication sales often goes to purchase other publications for the use of members. But there are other options. Money can be earned through workshop, class, or lecture fees. Profits can be used to disseminate information more widely: by providing additional Internet resources, Internet access at the local library or society library or office, or supporting the storage and access cost of the county GenWeb site, a society home page, or online vital record storage. Once a society is convinced of the benefits of this new and more Effective way of disseminating information, it can start small and work up to more ambitious projects: 1. Provide the following information on-line: o Places to do research, hours and holdings. o Handy guide to the type of historical information that is available. o Access instructions to vital records or the indexes. o Queries. 2. Compile indexes and make them easily available. 3. Assist counties and repositories in getting images of the actual records online with easy search and retrieval systems. If everyone would "do for others as you would like them to do for you," we could all make electronic genealogy work for us. We could be making verification of information now available in Internet's search environment quick and easy. We could be establishing research environments to complement and enhance the existing search environment, and we could be turning searchers into researchers. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

    07/23/1999 01:33:27
    1. [ILLOGAN-L] Deed & Misc Record Index
    2. The Sangamon County Deed & Misc Record Index covers 1822-1832. That doesn't mean everyone in them is from Logan County, only that all of Logan County for that period would be listed. There are 94 pages listed alphabetically by grantor and in the second section by grantee. It may be slightly confusing at first but it works out. Please note that deeds for property obtained from the government [those land record links on the main web page] do not appear to be included. This book costs $12. All records are at IRAD in Springfield. Example: C 135 John & Sarah LUCAS Michael MANN This is from the grantee alphabetical listing. The elusive Michael Mann got property from John & Sarah Lucas. This interests me because when John died Sarah married Michael Mann but that would be many years later. The C is the book and 135 is the page. The preface warns that these records are quite old and may be difficult to read. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

    07/23/1999 01:28:47