You do not want to pick my brains... It's a mess in there! Please note if you are researching one of the names already on the list you need to let me know and I'll add your email address to the mailing group. [I already added you to the Abe Lucas group John.] Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

Please add me to this: At this time I have only one surname to connect to Logan County: 1. David Mowrey--spouse--Grace 2. Byron Jefferson Mowrey My website is www.angelfire.com/sc2/HolbertHollister Thank You Roberta Mowrey Hollister -----Original Message----- From: clrothwell@mindspring.com <clrothwell@mindspring.com> To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com <ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 11:17 AM Subject: [ILLOGAN] Logan County Researchers >I am trying something new, a site known to members of this mailing list but >not the general public which will link you, the researcher, to others >researching the same family. I hope this will be useful and that you will >all send me some of your names to get the ball rolling. This site will not >be linked on the main web page. > >There are more than 150 people on this mailing list. I am hoping if we put >our heads together we can learn more. Those who are reluctant to post to >the general list can mail to the limited surname group. > >Check it out and let me know what you think: > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/research.htm > >I have also snagged a free web site where I could put up basic individual >lines of Logan County families if everyone is interested. You would have to >contribute your lines - I already know mine. <g> I could also put up links >to your own web page next to your line - if they find an ancestor they are >interested in they could then go to your page for more details. > >Needless to say, this requires more than a little work so mull it over and >tell me what you think, suggestions, ideas, etc. Suggestions and ideas on >other items for the web site are always welcome. > > > >Cheryl Rothwell >clrothwell@mindspring.com > > >==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== >Logan County is on roll 116 of the 1850 Census. > > >

Do you really want to know all the names?!? It sounds great -- will send these on to you, but if there are too many, just skip them. Ebenezer DUFF -- already researching or posted Sally McCLURE Duff - already researching or posted William David DUFF - already researching or posted Emeline Huntington LARISON Duff - already researching or posted Thomas Jefferson LARISON - already researching or posted Katherine Ann HOBLIT Larison - already researching or posted John Ewing DUFF Eleanor Wright Duff PENNY James Madison DUFF Abraham Jackson DUFF Andrew McClure DUFF Sarah Jane (Jennie) DUFF Frances Anne Duff PENNY ? AINSWORTH Lewis LAYMAN Isaac LAYMAN Sarah Jemima CANTRALL Hannah (An) McLAUGHLIN Harry M. DUFF James Merritt (Mett) DUFF - possibly already posted Margaret Anna TROWBRIDGE Duff - possibly already posted John HOBLIT - possibly already posted Mellicent SEWARD Hoblit - possibly already posted Thomas James PEGRAM William H. ABBOTT Charles Ebenezer DUFF Ruth DUFF Wilson Emeline DUFF Oyler Henry Schuyler OYLER, M.D. Blanche DUFF Pegram Walker Abbott PEGRAM Elizabeth Hatton DUFF Pegram Henry Baker PEGRAM John Thomas DUFF Kittie Ann GRAHAM Duff Adah Belle DUFF McConnell Thomas Lester McCONNELL Not sure whether this is what you wanted - take care, Marlyn Duff New Berlin, WI

Cheryl, Sign me up for this with the surnames: 1. Andrew J. Cartmill spouse Nancy Edwards 2. Samuel Harper spouse Mary Ann Cartmill 3. Willis Cassidy spouse Nancy Cartmill 4. Cartmill Crockett spouse Margaret Hedrick All the above are grandchildren of Thomas Cartmill but he never came to Illinois. Page: Home Page http://www.telisphere.com/~cartmill 5. Mary Polly Randolph spouse Peter Coppenbarger: ( I am not sure about how to list this one, Polly's father was William Randolph. His original homestead was divided as DeWitt and Logan were separated it straddled into both counties so would you list him as the originator although his piece stayed in DeWitt? His sons were the ones that ended up there in Logan). There are many others pieces of families I have info. on but I will just keep watch and post those as I see help needed or as I need help. Most all of my DeWitt connections lived right along the border of DeWitt and Logan. I think this is a great idea and sure don't know where you find the time. You must be a lot quicker at the keys than I and I know more knowledgeable about the computer stuff. Sure wish I lived close to you so I could "pick your brain" as my mother used to say... "E" Earliene Kaelin jeniann@wa.net or earliene@wa.net 1118 156th St. East Tacoma, WA. 98445-2324 Coordinator for http://www.rootsweb.com/~ildewitt/ -----Original Message----- From: clrothwell@mindspring.com [SMTP:clrothwell@mindspring.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 7:55 AM To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILLOGAN] Logan County Researchers I am trying something new, a site known to members of this mailing list but not the general public which will link you, the researcher, to others researching the same family. I hope this will be useful and that you will all send me some of your names to get the ball rolling. This site will not be linked on the main web page. There are more than 150 people on this mailing list. I am hoping if we put our heads together we can learn more. Those who are reluctant to post to the general list can mail to the limited surname group. Check it out and let me know what you think: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/research.htm I have also snagged a free web site where I could put up basic individual lines of Logan County families if everyone is interested. You would have to contribute your lines - I already know mine. <g> I could also put up links to your own web page next to your line - if they find an ancestor they are interested in they could then go to your page for more details. Needless to say, this requires more than a little work so mull it over and tell me what you think, suggestions, ideas, etc. Suggestions and ideas on other items for the web site are always welcome. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== Logan County is on roll 116 of the 1850 Census.

I am trying something new, a site known to members of this mailing list but not the general public which will link you, the researcher, to others researching the same family. I hope this will be useful and that you will all send me some of your names to get the ball rolling. This site will not be linked on the main web page. There are more than 150 people on this mailing list. I am hoping if we put our heads together we can learn more. Those who are reluctant to post to the general list can mail to the limited surname group. Check it out and let me know what you think: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/research.htm I have also snagged a free web site where I could put up basic individual lines of Logan County families if everyone is interested. You would have to contribute your lines - I already know mine. <g> I could also put up links to your own web page next to your line - if they find an ancestor they are interested in they could then go to your page for more details. Needless to say, this requires more than a little work so mull it over and tell me what you think, suggestions, ideas, etc. Suggestions and ideas on other items for the web site are always welcome. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

OK - Call me the village idiot but where is the query page?

Good idea! Marlyn Duff

I am interessted in any WEBB research being done in Logan Co. In particular Samuel WEBB and any of his siblings including but not limited to Sally Ann WEBB-NOBEL, Louisa J. WEBB-COX, George W. WEBB (married to Susane?), Richard WEBB, James WEBB, John H. WEBB, Augustine M. WEBB, and Caroline "Carrie" WEBB-TROWBRIDGE. Kathleen Church

If you post a query please be sure to give your COMPLETE email address. For some reason there have been a rash of incomplete email addresses in queries -- example: 'clrothwell' rather than 'clrothwell@mindspring.com' -- and those can't be posted as no one can contact the poster. If you know someone who has posted a query that didn't make it to the page that is probably why. Just repost with a complete address -- and all the required information of course. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

>I have an old photo, around 1890, of Latham folks hauling logs. Family members >identified include:James and Ella Birks, J.W. Birks and wife Effie, Billie and >Emma (Birks) Williams, Charlie Walters, Ben Sims, and Samuel Blevins, Wm. Betz, >Matt Blevins, and Dave Kerr of Montvale, Tenn. If you would like to see it, >notify me as to the format you can recieve it in, such as jpeg, or if you have >Adobe software, and I will send it to you. > I also have a 1910 Logan County Atlas, let me know if I can look anything up >Jerry.M1@Worldnet.Att.Net > > > >==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== >Logan County is on roll 116 of the 1850 Census. > > >Jerry This would be an interesting photo to have. Would it be possible for you to have it copied at Office Max on card stock glossy paper in an 8x10? This is what I do for all my photos to send those who request them. If the photos are black and white, ask that it be copied on the colored printer-this usually turns out exceptionally well. I will pay for the copying expenses as well as the postage if you could do that. I cannot print any pictures from my computer--but would really appreciate a copy of the one you described if it wouldn't be too much trouble. My address is Mrs. Marlyn Riter 2507 S. Kearney ST Denver, Colorado 80222 Thanks again.

Hello, I am Jerry Martin. The Francis Martin I am looking for was born August 20, 1843, d. Dec., 7, 1909. The only information I have on his wife, Hannah Lenore Michels, lists her as Michels, her father as George W. Michels and mother Nancy. Francis Martin lived in Latham at one time. He had a second wife named Jennie who died Dec. 4, 1877. -----Original Message----- From: clrothwell@mindspring.com <clrothwell@mindspring.com> To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com <ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, August 16, 1999 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN] Martin's >Need some dates on Martin. Also, do you know the name is Michels? There is >a family named Michel and people tend to say Michels. I don't know that >there is a connection. They are in the right area [for Lake Bank Cemetery] >but I don't know about the time frame. > > >Cheryl Rothwell >clrothwell@mindspring.com > > >==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== >The first settlers came to Logan County in 1819. At that time it was Sangamon County. > > > >

Many thanks to Earliene for the index to the 1850 census of Logan County. When will the pages beyond 193a be available? Garland Edgell

This sounds like a must-have item. Thanks, Cheryl, for the information. Also, I hadn't been to that site before and it looks inviting! Marge in Nebraska clrothwell@mindspring.com wrote: > Here's a review of a new book by Dick Eastman in his online genealogical > newsletter. While he says the book lists all censuses that have been > transcribed, indexed or placed on CD we know that is impossible as new ones > are added daily. But the rest of the information might be useful in your > research. Disclaimer: This does not constitute an endorsement of the book > and is presented for your information only. > > - The Census Book > > Bill Dollarhide is a well-known and prolific genealogy author and > lecturer. He has just released a new book that will be of interest > to most people researching ancestors who lived in the United > States. The full title of the book is "The Census Book - A > Genealogist's Guide to Federal Facts, Schedules and Indexes." > > The 183-page book indeed does live up to its full title. It gives > detailed descriptions of each census schedule and identifies every > known U.S. census index ever published. The Census Book gives a > complete tabulation of all U.S. Federal Censuses including non- > population census schedules and where the records are located > today. It gives many unknown facts and peculiarities about census > records. > > The Census Book also includes maps of the United States as it > changed and grew over the years. Looking for ancestors in the 1820 > census in the area known today as Wisconsin? A quick look at the > map on page 29 shows that present-day Wisconsin was a part of the > Michigan Territory in the 1820 census. Therefore the ancestors > would be listed in the 1820 census as living in the Michigan > Territory. > > Do you want to know if a particular census return for a state has > been indexed? Or, even better, has it been transcribed to CD-ROM? > If so, The Census Book will tell you. It lists all the census > indexes as well as the Broderbund CD-ROM census CD-ROM disks. > According to a reference in the book's preface, "this review > spends considerable space correcting errors found in the > descriptions of censuses and indexes found on CD-ROM > publications." The Census Book apparently does not cover census > CD-ROM disks made by companies other than Broderbund, however. > > The Census Book also contains blank census extraction forms. You > can photocopy these forms and then use them to copy and track your > ancestor's information as you view these original source > documents. > > Now for the fun part: a CD-ROM of the entire book is included > inside the back cover. When you purchase this book, you actually > receive two copies: one printed on paper and an exact duplicate in > electronic form on CD-ROM. You can search for every word in the > book. Since I have many ancestors who lived in Penobscot County, > Maine, I did a search on the word "Penobscot." Within seconds, I > found every reference to that word contained in the book. I was > able to print any or all pages of the book. Before going to the > library or a local Family History Center, I can print a copy of > the page that describes the microfilm reel that I wish to view, > including the Family History Library Call Number. > > The blank census extraction forms described earlier are also > available in the CD-ROM version. The user can print very high- > quality blank forms on a laser or inkjet printer. > > The Census Book CD-ROM uses Adobe Acrobat 4.0 software, an > excellent choice. The required software is included for use with > Windows 95, 98 or NT. The Census Book CD-ROM should also operate > properly on a Macintosh although the Mac software is not included. > You can download Adobe Acrobat for Macintosh at no charge from > Adobe's website at http://www.adobe.com. > > Most of the normal Acrobat commands are supported in The Census > Book CD-ROM. However, I could not find any method to cut-and-paste > data from the book to other Windows applications using the Windows > Clipboard. The CD-ROM uses bookmarks as a sort of Table of > Contents. It does not seem to have the capability for adding new > bookmarks or annotations. > > "The Census Book - A Genealogist's Guide to Federal Facts, > Schedules and Indexes" by William Dollarhide is a valuable > addition to the bookshelf of any genealogist doing research in the > United States. The availability of "twin copies," one on paper and > another on CD-ROM, is an excellent method of meeting everyone's > needs and preferences. "The Census Book" is published by Heritage > Quest and lists for $24.95 U.S. funds. However, when I looked at > Heritage Quest's website, I noticed that the price there was shown > as $22.45. Shipping charges will add a bit more to that price. For > more information about this excellent new book, look at: > http://www.heritagequest.com > > Cheryl Rothwell > Logan County, IL, ILGenWeb - LoganCty@mindspring.com > http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm > Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com > Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com > Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com > Downing query board> > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing > Lucas query board> > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > If you have found some information you were seeking through this list we'd like to know about it.

Looking for Martin's including Francis M. Martin, married to Hannah Lenore Michels, second wife's first name was Jennie. Francis M. Martin was father of Clive C. Martin. All were from Logan County, Francis Martin is buried in Lake Bank Cemetary near Latham. If you have information on these Martins I would appreciate hearing from you. Jerry.M1@Worldnet.Att.Net

Need some dates on Martin. Also, do you know the name is Michels? There is a family named Michel and people tend to say Michels. I don't know that there is a connection. They are in the right area [for Lake Bank Cemetery] but I don't know about the time frame. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

Appologies to the entire list for tmy previous reply that included the entire digest version. I know better, just cut and pasted more then I intended to. It's probably brain damage from reading too much microfilm! ------------------- > Saw your message and the name Mayer. Do you by chance have a Martin and > Catherine or William Mayer that you are researching? > Carolyn S. Allen Cecil Hi Carolyn, I'm sorry to report I don't have your Martin Mayer family in my database. I keep a master list of all Census work, complete, to-do or the cryptic results. I only have Martin listed, one time, and in a way that indicates I've not done the look-up yet: Myer Martin No 1860 IL, Logan, Lincoln FHL# 0803 200 Page 265 Leaving on vacation for 2 weeks on Monday morning. So...., regarding the Stolls, Mayers of Mt Pulaski: George Irwin was the source of my info initially and has a terrific database on them. If he's unavailable, I'll help the best I can when I get back. Bye for now, Penny

Thanks to great work by DeWitt County CC Earliene Kaelin an index of the 1850 census is now on the web site. You will find the link on the main page under the census link. http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/Logan1850.htm The page numbers refer to the page numbers on the census images which are the actual census page numbers for documentation purposes when citing your sources. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

Here's a review of a new book by Dick Eastman in his online genealogical newsletter. While he says the book lists all censuses that have been transcribed, indexed or placed on CD we know that is impossible as new ones are added daily. But the rest of the information might be useful in your research. Disclaimer: This does not constitute an endorsement of the book and is presented for your information only. - The Census Book Bill Dollarhide is a well-known and prolific genealogy author and lecturer. He has just released a new book that will be of interest to most people researching ancestors who lived in the United States. The full title of the book is "The Census Book - A Genealogist's Guide to Federal Facts, Schedules and Indexes." The 183-page book indeed does live up to its full title. It gives detailed descriptions of each census schedule and identifies every known U.S. census index ever published. The Census Book gives a complete tabulation of all U.S. Federal Censuses including non- population census schedules and where the records are located today. It gives many unknown facts and peculiarities about census records. The Census Book also includes maps of the United States as it changed and grew over the years. Looking for ancestors in the 1820 census in the area known today as Wisconsin? A quick look at the map on page 29 shows that present-day Wisconsin was a part of the Michigan Territory in the 1820 census. Therefore the ancestors would be listed in the 1820 census as living in the Michigan Territory. Do you want to know if a particular census return for a state has been indexed? Or, even better, has it been transcribed to CD-ROM? If so, The Census Book will tell you. It lists all the census indexes as well as the Broderbund CD-ROM census CD-ROM disks. According to a reference in the book's preface, "this review spends considerable space correcting errors found in the descriptions of censuses and indexes found on CD-ROM publications." The Census Book apparently does not cover census CD-ROM disks made by companies other than Broderbund, however. The Census Book also contains blank census extraction forms. You can photocopy these forms and then use them to copy and track your ancestor's information as you view these original source documents. Now for the fun part: a CD-ROM of the entire book is included inside the back cover. When you purchase this book, you actually receive two copies: one printed on paper and an exact duplicate in electronic form on CD-ROM. You can search for every word in the book. Since I have many ancestors who lived in Penobscot County, Maine, I did a search on the word "Penobscot." Within seconds, I found every reference to that word contained in the book. I was able to print any or all pages of the book. Before going to the library or a local Family History Center, I can print a copy of the page that describes the microfilm reel that I wish to view, including the Family History Library Call Number. The blank census extraction forms described earlier are also available in the CD-ROM version. The user can print very high- quality blank forms on a laser or inkjet printer. The Census Book CD-ROM uses Adobe Acrobat 4.0 software, an excellent choice. The required software is included for use with Windows 95, 98 or NT. The Census Book CD-ROM should also operate properly on a Macintosh although the Mac software is not included. You can download Adobe Acrobat for Macintosh at no charge from Adobe's website at http://www.adobe.com. Most of the normal Acrobat commands are supported in The Census Book CD-ROM. However, I could not find any method to cut-and-paste data from the book to other Windows applications using the Windows Clipboard. The CD-ROM uses bookmarks as a sort of Table of Contents. It does not seem to have the capability for adding new bookmarks or annotations. "The Census Book - A Genealogist's Guide to Federal Facts, Schedules and Indexes" by William Dollarhide is a valuable addition to the bookshelf of any genealogist doing research in the United States. The availability of "twin copies," one on paper and another on CD-ROM, is an excellent method of meeting everyone's needs and preferences. "The Census Book" is published by Heritage Quest and lists for $24.95 U.S. funds. However, when I looked at Heritage Quest's website, I noticed that the price there was shown as $22.45. Shipping charges will add a bit more to that price. For more information about this excellent new book, look at: http://www.heritagequest.com Cheryl Rothwell Logan County, IL, ILGenWeb - LoganCty@mindspring.com http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas

Oooo! A person who actually lives in Logan County. Probably shouldn't have told us that. <g> Are these the same Mayers and Stolls that were in Mt. Pulaski? I have by marriage a Maus, a Volle, a Rupp. I am particularly curious about the Rupp if anyone has them. My great grandmother married a John Rupp after she was widowed. He died rather mysteriously so I have always been curious. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

Please, I ask everyone to delete the message you are replying to rather than including it in your message. In some email programs this is something you set in your preferences. In others you have to do it by hand. If you want to quote pertinent parts that's fine -- just don't let the whole message append to your reply. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com