Looks to me like a very good guess. All the families you list are names from around Chestnut and Mt. Pulaski, and all the German Villages of origin seem to be very close together. Would be fun to know a bit of German and spend some time searching old Lutheran Church records in that general area. So it may be Maisenberg rather than Meisenberg where Erhard Stoll family originated. Since all 3 Meisenberg locations are in other states, the only further check would be to find a German map from 1847 to be sure one of the three had not formerly been in Wurttemburg state. Sure appreciate all your help!

http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/research.htm Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

I have received a message regarding the 1850 census images. Rootsweb is adding a new server to better serve the growing needs of the genealogy community. While they are getting this server up and going they aren't adding anything new -- such as the rest of the census images. I knew this because we have had other minor problems but I did not connect it with the missing census images. I am assured that as soon as that server is configured and running smoothly the census images will go up. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

Would you please give out the URL for the list of ancestors everyone is submitting. I cleaned some files out a little too deep last night. Joan Black Lund j-lund@uiuc.edu http://staff.uiuc.edu/~j-lund/joan.html For the program I use for genealogy see http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/

Once again Earliene Kaelin has come through and produced a census index for us, this time for the 1840 Logan County census images. She also did the 1850 Logan County census index. She has infinitely more patience than I do for such things. Thanks Earliene! When will the rest of the 1850 census images be up? GOOD question. I have asked and begged and pleaded and it has gotten me ZIP so far. This census has had more than its share of problems and they still continue. I will resume the battle after the holiday. I don't think anyone is listening at the moment. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

> From: George Irwin <girwin35@worldnet.att.net> > > Question: My mother's written notes all say the origin of the Stolls > was Meisenbach. Your record says Maisenbach. Both exist. Any idea how to > determine which is the correct location? Hi George, I used the spelling from the Wuerttemberg Immigration Index. I just thought the German authorities would spell it properly. On the other hand, it's translated into English by Americans, so who knows? However, all but one of the Erhard Stoll family are listed with Maisenbach, Neuenbuerg as their birthplace. Source: Schenk, T.; Froelke, R.; Bork, I.: The Württemberg Emigration Index, Vol. I-V, Ancestry Incorporated, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA. (Catalogue-No. G005/1-5) I had some fun with the following excerise: These families, I believe some are collateral families, made application to leave Wuerttemberg from the district of Neuenburg as well: Renschler - Pfinzweiler Renschler - Conweiler Schroth - Maisenbach Stolle - Maisenbach Stoll - Maisenbach Dittus - Schoemberg Dittus - Neuenbuerg Stoll - Waldrennach Rentschler - Calmbach Schroth - Grunbach Leotterle - Grunbach Schroth - Salmbach Rentschler - Igelsloch Rentschler - Schoemberg Rentschler - Dennach Reichstetter - Engelsbrand Go to your favorite mapping site. I like Mapquest for this excercise, at: http://www.mapquest.com/ Select: Online Maps For City, enter: Maisenbach For Country, enter: Germany When you are presented with choices, select the "Baden-Wurttemberg" map. If you choose another method it's about half way between Stuttgard and Strassbourg Zoom in to City level or alittle less. Make the map as large as possible. Click around to move on the map and find the neighboring villages. That's my best guess, for now ...... and I reserve the right to change my mind entirely . ;-D Penny (Richner) Husler

> From: PBord1950@aol.com > Phylis Borders > Here is my early ancestors > Humphrey Scroggins / Sarah Kirby Hi Phylis and list members, While trying to sort out my LEOTTERLE and RICHNER connection (sigh), I was out on the net and found the following excellent site. I thought it was worth sharing with this list because of the many Mt Pulaski and other Logan Co. connections. Title page: doggetts and other cousins http://www.doggettfam.org/index.htm Margaret DOGGETT SCROGGIN is the one to follow from this page: Margaret will take you to the following page related to Logan Co. and tons of Scroggin family listings and hot links: or go direct: http://www.doggettfam.org/scroggin314.htm Sincerely, Penny (Richner) Husler

If anyone is in the area... Please note that many of the items mentioned are available in printed form from them. The Sangamon County Genealogical Society board will host an an open house at the society office at 2856 S. 11th St. in Springfield on Saturday November 13, 1999 from 10 am to 3 pm. We will be providing research assistance and will offer our publications for sale the day of the open house. We presently have two microfiche readers and two microfilm readers to use that day. We have the state wide marriage index (1821-1900 for Sangamon County), the death record index (1916-194?) the 1881 History of Sangamon County and an index to the Genealogical Helper Magazine all on microfiche. There are records for birth (1878-1883) including a few records prior to 1878, please be sure to refer to our first birth record book for details about those early birth records, also available that day will be marriage (1821-1899), deaths (1878-1890) and deed records (1822-1832) on microfilm which can be viewed and transcribed but not printed as our machines do not have that capability. For more information, please contact Dan Dixon at Dbutton2@aol.com Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

Boy do I feel stupid. I was way off on the dates. I did some searching and came up with the dates 1855-56 and being used as long as until 1900. Thanks for your help, Laurie

This groups seems to be very knowledgeable, especially Cheryl. I was wondering if someone could tell me what years tin type began and ended? I have been forwarded and unidentified tin type photo. I would like to get an estimated time frame to help determine who it might be. I know that the earliest known photo is 1839. I compared this photo to that and it looks very similiar. Thank you, Laurie

No, not way off: The daguerreotype, invented in 1837 by the French artist Louis Daguerre, was the first practical form of reproduction in photography. A daguerreotype was made on a silver-plated sheet of copper made light-sensitive by prior exposure to vapors that produced silver iodide... Costly and time-consuming, daguerreotypes were, nevertheless, superbly detailed. The process, although popular, was soon replaced. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

Hi List If anyone has any further information on this Hickey family, please advise. Thank you. Sharon Hi Carol, I have had a major computer crash and am slowly getting back up to par. I hope this is your correct email address. Can you please give me any information on the following Hickey family? They are in Logan with my Hickey families, but I am wondering if there is a connection. I would appreciate any information you have on them. Sharon 1 John W Hickey b: March 23, 1820 Ohio d: April 28, 1861 Sheridan twp, Logan county, Illinois .. +Elizabeth b: April 15, 1822 Ohio d: April 23, 1903 Sheridan twp, Logan county, Illinois ... 2 Isaac C Hickey b: November 19, 1849 From Ohio d: January 08, 1903 Sheridan twp, Logan county, Illinois ... 2 Mary Hickey b: 1856 Illinois ... 2 America Hickey b: 1854 Ohio d: 1930 Sheridan twp, Logan county, Illinois ....... +Azariah W Beaver b: September 09, 1843 Ohio d: April 30, 1880 Sheridan twp, Logan county, Illinois ... 2 Sarah Hickey b: 1859 Illinois

Hello -- I am new to this list. My earliest Logan County ancestor is Charles HARPER, who was said to be a full-blooded Choctaw Indian, born in Mississippi around 1770. He moved to Kentucky where his children were born, and then to Logan County around 1828. Actually Logan County was not yet established at that point; I believe Charles was one of the early settlers in the Lake Fork district. I don't know Charles wife's name but they apparently had quite a number of children. I have documentation for the following: Baldwin HARPER m. Martha BURNS 2nd wife Permelia CARTMELL William HARPER m. Rebecca RIDER 2nd wife Cassandra Rominie Reuben HARPER m. Mariah Low 2nd wife Sarah ? Charles HARPER m. Eveline CARTMELL 2nd wife Sarah ? Samuel HARPER m. Mary Ann CARTMELL Are there any other HARPER researchers out there? I would love to connect. Valorie Anlage __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

On the 1880 Logan County census, it lists a H.W. Curtis, age 28, S.T. Curtis,33, Enoch Curtis, 67,Samuel Curtis, 7l, and a William, age 20, in the deaf and dumb school or orphanage. Hope this helps. Marge in Nebraska Loren Curtis wrote: > My g-g-grandfather, Saul (or Sol) H. Curtis(s) moved his family from > Randolph County, Indiana to Logan County, Illinois between 1850 and 1860. > My g-grandfather William Wesley Curtis married Eliza Ann Campbell on 27 > December 1859 in Lincoln, Logan, Illinois. The 1860 and 1870 census shows > them all living in Atlanta Township, Logan, IL. My g-grandfather moved his > family to Cherokee County, Kansas between 1870 and 1880. > > Anyone have information on the Curtis or Campbell families or Logan County > between 1850 and 1880? > > Thanks, > > Curt > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > If you have found some information you were seeking through this list we'd like to know about it.

My g-g-grandfather, Saul (or Sol) H. Curtis(s) moved his family from Randolph County, Indiana to Logan County, Illinois between 1850 and 1860. My g-grandfather William Wesley Curtis married Eliza Ann Campbell on 27 December 1859 in Lincoln, Logan, Illinois. The 1860 and 1870 census shows them all living in Atlanta Township, Logan, IL. My g-grandfather moved his family to Cherokee County, Kansas between 1870 and 1880. Anyone have information on the Curtis or Campbell families or Logan County between 1850 and 1880? Thanks, Curt

The McHenry County Illinois Genealogical Society (MCIGS) is sponsoring a one-day conference with Cyndi Howell's on October 9, 1999. The deadline for early registration is August 31st, so I thought I'd let everyone know now. There will be no walk-in registrations, so all must be in by September 30th. This will be held at the McHenry County College in Crystal Lake, IL from 8-4. More details and registration form can be found on the MCIGS website: http://www.nsn.org/clkhome/mcigs/ Crystal Lake is north of Chicago, quite a bit north. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

I found this today. 106th Illinois Infantry [references] Dyer, Frederick H. A Compendium of the War of the Rebellion. Vol. 2. Dayton, OH: Morningside, 1979. Ref. See p. 1092 (1 photocopied page) for a concise summary of the regiment's service. [note: this is available online] <http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilcivilw/county/logan.htm> IL. Mil & Naval Dept. Report of the Adjutant General of the State of Illinois. Vol. 6. Springfield, IL: Journal Co, 1901. UA43I322v6. See pp. 3-25 (12 photocopied pages) for a roster of the regiment. .Vicksburg Mil Park Comm. Illinois at Vicksburg. Chicago: Blakeley, 1907. E475.27I29. See pp. 283-85 (3 photocopied pages) for a brief recountal of the regiment's service during the Vicksburg Campaign. Our Photo Archive includes images of individuals of this unit.106inf from: <http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usamhi/photodb.html> RG98S-CWP95.57 A full standing view of Pvt. William O. Harrington, Co. H, 106th Regt., Illinois Vol. Inf. Wartime photo. RG98S-CWP 151.74 Wartime bust view of Capt. Abram F. Risser, Co. B, 106th Regt., Illinois Vol. Inf. RG98S-CWP 151.75 Nearly a full length seated view of Pvt. John Hankins, Co. K, 106th Regt., Illinois Vol. Inf. RG98S-CWP 165.85 3/4 standing view of an elderly Corp. Jacob S. Wright, Co. H, 106th Regt., Ill. Vol. Inf. RG98S-CWP 165.86 Group photo with family of Corp. Jacob S. Wright, Co. H, 106th Regt., Ill. Vol. Inf. RG98S-CWP 183.50 Pictured in a 9 button frock coat that has a pocket on the right breast side is Pvt. Willis Adams, Co. G, 106th Regt., Ill. Vol. Inf. RG98S-CWP 183.51 1/2 seated image of Pvt. Willis Adams, Co. G, 106th Regt., Ill. Vol. Inf. He is pictured in uniform with a 20th Corps badge on his kepi. Ordering Photographs Please note also that this is only a catalog. At present, we do not have photographs linked to the catalog entries. Duplicates of photos may be obtained by following these directions. Send a message to the MHI Special Collections Branch. This may be accomplished in several ways: e-mail to Special Collections <http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usamhi/SCmail.html> postal mail to U.S. Army Military History Institute ATTN: Special Collections 22 Ashburn Drive Carlisle, PA 17013-5008 or call them directly at +1-717-245-3434 In the message, provide your postal address and the catalog number of the photograph you desire (the Photo ID or "RG" number). They will mail a photocopy of the photograph to you for your examination and approval, along with much more detailed instructions, which will include charges for the duplication of photos. Assuming that you want a copy of the photograph(s), you will then mail a check for the appropriate amount payable to "MHI Fund" and the copy will be furnished after a suitable number of weeks for processing. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

Carolyn, Have we talked? I have the surnames Houser and Arnspiger in my line, first in PA and MD, then into KY, and finally into IL. I descend from John Houser and Mary Ann Arnspiger. --Jan P.S. If we've already connected, don't mind me...I'm easily confused. "Carolyn H. Chapman" wrote: > Surnames: > > Houghton > Hieronymus > Arnspiger > Howser or Houser > Bishop > Williams > Thompson > Rhodes > > Carolyn Chapman > e-mail: carolync@unr.edu > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > What Logan County resouces do you own? Tell us.

Cheryl, First of all a big thank you for all your hard work. I have gleaned much from this mail list and again, THANKS! Here are my early Logan County ancestors: COLLINS, Hugh and Elizabeth (LANE) McCAIN, Margaret (HEPLER), a widow with several children Rochelle Wehrheim Johnson gramashell@aol.com

I just checked with my local library in Illinois and they do not have the index. Cheri Salz -----Original Message----- From: Joan Lund [mailto:j-lund@uiuc.edu] Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 1:28 PM To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILLOGAN] Death Certificates If you are in Illinois, this microfiche is available at your local library. Joan At 11:00 AM 8/23/99 -0500, you wrote: >Another thought on those death certificates. I was always curious just how >many of my surname were on file, so I began by requesting a print-out from >the fiche for all of one surname. That works well if not a common name like >Smith, etc. This way one can catch other members of the families possibly. > Then send for two at a time for the actual death certificate of those you >are interested in from this print-out. > >Mary Ann > ______________________________