Does anyone out there have the name or address of someone to contact about the Atlanta Cemetery directory? It seems that a name was published in the past, but I can't put my hands on it right now. I have some DALZELL information that I would like to add to the next cemetery index, if anyone happens to be working on it. Thanks, Marylou (DALZELL) Chapman

Thank you very much. I really appreciate this. Merry Christmas! Judy Laros, jlaros@earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: Shauneeh@aol.com <Shauneeh@aol.com> To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com <ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, December 12, 1999 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN] Re: ILLOGAN-D Digest V99 #221 >Hi, > >I show the following from Logan County Cemetery Inscriptions, V. 2: > >Bethel Cemetery, Orvil Twp.: > >Summers, Charlotte B. > wife of J. L. > Nov. 6, 1877 > ae. 66 yr. 8 mo. 20 da. > >Summers, J. L. > Mar. 22, 1876 > ae. 61 yr. 3 mo. 3 da. > > > >Shaunee Power > > >==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== >Logan County is on roll 248 of the 1870 Census. > >

Hi, I show the following from Logan County Cemetery Inscriptions, V. 2: Bethel Cemetery, Orvil Twp.: Summers, Charlotte B. wife of J. L. Nov. 6, 1877 ae. 66 yr. 8 mo. 20 da. Summers, J. L. Mar. 22, 1876 ae. 61 yr. 3 mo. 3 da. Shaunee Power

In a message dated 12.12.1999 09:48:06 Central Standard Time, ILLOGAN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > I am looking for the burial plots for Jefferson L Summers, his wife > Charolette Summers, their son, Elias C Summers, his wife Mary J Summers, > probably some of Charolette's family, the Carnahan's would be buried near > Orvil, also. The date range would be 1860-1876. Does anyone have an index > for local cemetaries for a lookup for me? I would be very grateful for any > help. > Judy Laros > jlaros@earthlink.net Judy: My wife, Sara is from Hartsburg. She doesn't remember any Summers, but remembers a MR."Calley/Kalley" Carnahan who was a neighbor of her cousin, Chuck Coffey. Chuck's wife, TWILA, is online, and is a genealogical researcher. Also, Chuck's mom's cousin, Originally Anna Jannette Lolling, (now Eeten), and her brother take care of the Hartsburg cemetary. Got all that straight? Anyway, try writing to Twila Coffee ( tcoffey2@abelink.com). John & Sara Lolling Wilham

Orvil Township in Logan County includes the towns of Hartsburg and Emden. I only find Bethel Union and Hartsburg Union cemeteries in that township, just to narrow it down for a volunteer searcher. I don't have a book that lists either of those cemeteries but someone on this list probably does. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

Rootsweb has its own version of World Family Tree and other such projects. You can submit your own information or search. Keep in mind this is all submitted information, not verified. The URL is: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

I am looking for the burial plots for Jefferson L Summers, his wife Charolette Summers, their son, Elias C Summers, his wife Mary J Summers, probably some of Charolette's family, the Carnahan's would be buried near Orvil, also. The date range would be 1860-1876. Does anyone have an index for local cemetaries for a lookup for me? I would be very grateful for any help. Judy Laros jlaros@earthlink.net

I received this email offer. If anyone is researching Parsons let me know. >I purchased a book in an antique store in Bartlesville, Oklahoma. >On the inside cover are several names listed with births >deaths & marriages. Also listed was Pulaski, Logan Co., IL. >I am researching several families & thought this information >might be of use to someone researching the Parsons family. > >The earliest birth date is for Cal Parsons b. June >20, 1844 d. July 21, 1905. I can send you a copy of the >FTM file I made of the names or send a copy of the original >entries. >Carolyn Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

I can't really think of a logical reason for the carriage factory to close in the 1880s since cars hadn't come into their own yet. Practical reasons might be bankruptcy, fire, competition, etc. Perhaps George just wanted to move on. Perhaps some charmer broke his heart and he wanted to get away. <g> It's not safe to assume in genealogy. I don't know if there are such records but a good place to inquire would be the Logan County Genealogical and Historical Society. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

Excerpted from Dick Eastman's online genealogy newsletter -- longish version: Last spring the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints launched their new FamilySearch site at http://www.familysearch.org. This has become one of the most popular sites on the Internet; millions of people have searched the site's online databases since it opened. The same site also offered another feature of note: the capability to send GEDCOM files of your ancestry to the site. Genealogy files submitted by private individuals to the FamilySearch Internet site are preserved at the Granite Mountain Records Vault, located near Salt Lake City, Utah. Genealogy data submitted via this method is also preserved in FamilySearch databases that are now becoming publicly available on compact disc. They will also be available on the Web site at some time in the future. .... The Pedigree Resource File set contains over six million family history records submitted by individuals through the FamilySearch(r) Internet Genealogy Service. Family information is organized in family groups and pedigrees, similar to how it is displayed in Ancestral File(tm). However, the Pedigree Resource File displays each submitter's information exactly as it was submitted, not combined with information from other submitters, as is done in Ancestral File. Notes and sources are also displayed. This set includes discs 1 - 5 and a master index. .... Navigating around the database is easy. .... The same software also displays Family Group Sheets, a structured report of a man, a woman, their parents and their children. You can click on any individual listed to quickly see that person's data. A wide variety of printed reports are available, including pedigree charts, ancestor charts, ahnentafel lists (a listing of ancestors), family group sheets, Register-format reports (similar to a common format used in many printed genealogy books) and even fan charts. The same software will export GEDCOM files that can be directly imported into almost any genealogy program. In fact, the CD-ROM software looks for a copy of Personal Ancestral File version 4.0, if installed, and directly launches that. However, the GEDCOM files work well with other genealogy programs, too. I feel that I have to express several warnings about the use of these CD-ROM disks: Like all other collections of data submitted by thousands of different individuals, there is no guaranty of accuracy or of the quality of the research. The information is presented "as is" and the viewer must verify each "fact" by other means. Many of the people who submitted this information are highly qualified and highly-motivated genealogy researchers. However, others are not. Some of the submitters may simply have recorded hearsay data or may have guessed at some of the information contained. Others simply copied erroneous data they found in books, thereby perpetuating older mistakes. ....The records that I found on the Pedigree resource often included extensive notes and sources that I can double-check. However, other records were presented with no accompanying documentation as to the source of the information. Would I use this data? You bet I would! But I would use each eference as a possible clue, not as a proven fact. In short, the information found on these disks should be considered as clues of possible ancestors. Every "fact" that I obtain from these disks will be verified by me before I enter any of the information into my primary personal database. Also, for many of the same reasons listed above, never directly import this data into your primary genealogy database. You don't want someone else's possibly inaccurate data to be intermixed with your own hard work. Almost all genealogy programs have the capability to create a second, empty database. Use that. First, make a backup of your existing database. Then create a second, empty database. Import the data obtained from the Pedigree Resource File into that second database. After you have verified this newly obtained data, you can transfer the records to your primary database. You can transfer the data, one individual at a time or in groups, as appropriate. But you certainly do not want to insert unproven data. Even with these caveats, I must say that these CD-ROM disks are excellent genealogy research tools. They allow you to easily obtain the results of thousands of hours of research work done by other genealogists. A careful examination of this data may well result in your finding previously unknown ancestors. The use of CD-ROM disks is faster than doing online searches. I like to use both online and CD-ROM databases. Now, are you ready for the best part? The price of each Pedigree Resource File disk is $5.00. That's right, five greenbacks. As if that price wasn't cheap enough, the collection of the first five disks plus the Master Index CD-ROM disk only costs $15.00. Six CD- ROM disks for $15.00, not a bad price! You may have to pay a bit extra for taxes and shipping. Considering the combination of millions of records and high-quality software to manipulate and report that data, the price of these CD-ROM disks is a bargain! To order the Pedigree Resource File CD-ROM disks, go to: http://www.familysearch.org and click on "Order Family History Resources." ############### Please note that you have to register before you can order. The complete set he discusses is the last item on the list on page 3. The site was pretty busy today and timed out a couple times before I got in. I have several of the other databases that are on the list including the Vital Records Index for North America and the British Isles. These are actual records, not contributions. I also have the Source Guide which contains a wealth of basic information. All are very inexpensive. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

The 1878 Logan County history lists a Frank Gerard, carriage manufacturer, Clinton cor. Union St.; dem; from Missouri. That means he was a carriage manufacturer located at Clinton corner of Union St., that he was a democrat and that he came from Missouri. There is no further information on him or his business in this book. Note the spelling with one r. If someone has the 1886 history they might look for you -- I don't know that anyone does. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------79B8FDC5DC91BBBEA0239AC1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------79B8FDC5DC91BBBEA0239AC1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <Griff2703@aol.com> Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.1]) by mail00.dfw.mindspring.net (Mindspring/Netcom Mail Service) with ESMTP id s4lnpd.nsg.33qs884 for <micku@ix.netcom.com>; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 16:54:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from Griff2703@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id u.0.6a3498c0 (1759); Sun, 5 Dec 1999 16:54:37 -0500 (EST) From: Griff2703@aol.com Message-ID: <0.6a3498c0.257c391c@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 16:54:36 EST Subject: Fwd: Fw: 'TWAS THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS, To: micku@ix.netcom.com, CPayne5237@cs.com, pamt55@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_0.6a3498c0.257c391c_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 --part1_0.6a3498c0.257c391c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_0.6a3498c0.257c391c_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <salglo@ij.net> Received: from rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (rly-yb02.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.2]) by air-yb02.mail.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP; Sun, 05 Dec 1999 13:30:02 -0500 Received: from solomon (solomon2.ij.net [209.216.95.2]) by rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (v66.4) with ESMTP; Sun, 05 Dec 1999 13:29:49 -0500 Received: from [209.4.40.194] by solomon (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id ga581964 for <Griff2703@aol.com>; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 13:21:36 -0500 Message-ID: <007c01bf3f4e$b2d892c0$472804d1@savatore> Reply-To: "Salvatore Addeo" <salglo@ij.net> From: "Salvatore Addeo" <salglo@ij.net> To: "Pam Harper" <pmh2954@cs.com>, "Lori Collins" <ed911@aol.com>, "Joe Bratt" <ir2abrat@aol.com>, "Gloria Addeo" <GAddeo@co.pinellas.fl.us>, "Charlene Estrada" <Halston_c@hotmail.com>, "Betty Bard" <BBBWBB@aol.com>, "Bob Griffiths" <Griff2703@aol.com> Subject: Fw: 'TWAS THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS, Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 13:22:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 > Subject: 'TWAS THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS, > > > >'TWAS THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS, > > HE LIVED ALL ALONE, > > IN A ONE BEDROOM HOUSE MADE OF > > PLASTER AND STONE. > > > > I HAD COME DOWN THE CHIMNEY > > WITH PRESENTS TO GIVE, > > AND TO SEE JUST WHO > > IN THIS HOME DID LIVE. > > > > I LOOKED ALL ABOUT, > > A STRANGE SIGHT I DID SEE, > > NO TINSEL, NO PRESENTS, > > NOT EVEN A TREE. > > > > NO STOCKING BY MANTLE, > > JUST BOOTS FILLED WITH SAND, > > ON THE WALL HUNG PICTURES > > OF FAR DISTANT LANDS. > > > > WITH MEDALS AND BADGES, > > AWARDS OF ALL KINDS, > > A SOBER THOUGHT > > CAME THROUGH MY MIND. > > > > FOR THIS HOUSE WAS DIFFERENT, > > IT WAS DARK AND DREARY, > > I FOUND THE HOME OF A SOLDIER, > > ONCE I COULD SEE CLEARLY. > > > > THE SOLDIER LAY SLEEPING, > > SILENT, ALONE, > > CURLED UP ON THE FLOOR > > IN THIS ONE BEDROOM HOME. > > > > THE FACE WAS SO GENTLE, > > THE ROOM IN SUCH DISORDER, > > NOT HOW I PICTURED > > A UNITED STATES SOLDIER. > > > > WAS THIS THE HERO > > OF WHOM I'D JUST READ? > > CURLED UP ON A PONCHO, > > THE FLOOR FOR A BED? > > > > I REALIZED THE FAMILIES > > THAT I SAW THIS NIGHT, > > OWED THEIR LIVES TO THESE SOLDIERS > > WHO WERE WILLING TO FIGHT. > > > > SOON ROUND THE WORLD, > > THE CHILDREN WOULD PLAY, > > AND GROWNUPS WOULD CELEBRATE > > A BRIGHT CHRISTMAS DAY. > > > > THEY ALL ENJOYED FREEDOM > > EACH MONTH OF THE YEAR, > > BECAUSE OF THE SOLDIERS, > > LIKE THE ONE LYING HERE. > > > > I COULDN'T HELP WONDER > > HOW MANY LAY ALONE, > > ON A COLD CHRISTMAS EVE > > IN A LAND FAR FROM HOME. > > > > THE VERY THOUGHT > > BROUGHT A TEAR TO MY EYE, > > I DROPPED TO MY KNEES > > AND STARTED TO CRY. > > > > THE SOLDIER AWAKENED > > AND I HEARD A ROUGH VOICE, > > "SANTA DON'T CRY, > > THIS LIFE IS MY CHOICE; > > > > I FIGHT FOR FREEDOM, > > I DON'T ASK FOR MORE, > > MY LIFE IS MY GOD, > > MY COUNTRY, MY CORPS." > > > > THE SOLDIER ROLLED OVER > > AND DRIFTED TO SLEEP, > > I COULDN'T CONTROL IT, > > I CONTINUED TO WEEP. > > > > I KEPT WATCH FOR HOURS, > > SO SILENT AND STILL > > AND WE BOTH SHIVERED > > FROM THE COLD NIGHT'S CHILL. > > > > I DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE > > ON THAT COLD, DARK, NIGHT, > > THIS GUARDIAN OF HONOR > > SO WILLING TO FIGHT. > > > > THEN THE SOLDIER ROLLED OVER, > > WITH A VOICE SOFT AND PURE, > > WHISPERED, "CARRY ON SANTA, > > IT'S CHRISTMAS DAY, ALL IS SECURE." > > > > ONE LOOK AT MY WATCH, > > AND I KNEW HE WAS RIGHT. > > "MERRY CHRISTMAS MY FRIEND, > > AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT." > > > >This poem was written by a Marine stationed in Okinawa Japan. > >The following is his request. I think it is reasonable..... > >PLEASE. Would you do me the kind favor of sending this to as many people as > >you can? Christmas will be coming soon and some credit is due to our U.S. > >service men and women for our being able to celebrate these festivities. > >Let's try in this small way to pay a tiny bit of what we owe. Make people > >stop and think of our heroes, living and dead, who sacrificed themselves > for > >us. Please, do your small part to plant this small seed. > > > --part1_0.6a3498c0.257c391c_boundary-- --------------79B8FDC5DC91BBBEA0239AC1--

Hi John, I am still here. I still have the mnsajt@aol.com address and receive list mail at mnsajt@juno.com Either address will get me a message. I am anxious to hear of your new contacts. I have had great success with my Hickey lines this past year. Sharon Thomas mnsajt@aol.com or mnsajt@juno.com I have lost contact with Sharon Thomas, who was researching the Hickey's of Logan County. I have made new contacts with Hickey's and would like your new E-mail address. JOHN WILHAM ___________________________________________________________________ Why pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Thanks to the hard work of Mary Ann Radtke the Lake Bank Cemetery listings are now on the web. There is an alphabetical listing as well as detailed listings of each stone by section. Be advised that most of these are large files and may be slow to load. http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/stonelist.htm The cemetery listing page has been updated with some minor additional information. There's a new Christmas song on the main page too. <g> Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

Would it be possible to look up the family name of "Black"? I am looking for the names of the parents and siblings of my g-great grandfather, Joseph Penn Black, born in Logan Co. around 1832. The family were of the Episcopal or Protestant faith. The only thing my father said about his family was that they were "Pennsylvania Dutch" and I beleive Joseph's fathers' first name may have been Benjamin. The father was from KY and mother from OH. I don't know when they came to IL or the migration they took to get there. I have no other leads on them. Ginger Smith wrote: > Cheryl - The Biographical Record 1901 is indexed. However, my copy is an > original and the index has been torn and is missing some of the T's and page > numbers on some of the S's. The Bios are not in alphebetical order. The > only thing that makes lookups difficult is the state of repair my book is > in. The covers and pages are loose and some of the pages are out of order. > However, I'll be glad to so look ups, if that's the question. > > Ginger > -----Original Message----- > From: clrothwell@mindspring.com <clrothwell@mindspring.com> > To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com <ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Thursday, December 02, 1999 3:24 PM > Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN] Logan Books > > >Ginger -- Is the 1901 Biographical Record indexed or are the bios in > >alphabetical order? IOW, is it easy to look up a person? The Stringer > >History is not indexed and the bios are not in alpha order. :-( > > > > > >Cheryl Rothwell > >clrothwell@mindspring.com > > > > > >==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > >What Logan County resouces do you own? Tell us. > > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > Space for this list is provided by RootsWeb.com which also provides space for the ILGenWeb Logan County pages. Your generous donations to RootsWeb makes this all possible. Find out more! http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

I have lost contact with Sharon Thomas, who was researching the Hickey's of Logan County. I have made new contacts with Hickey's and would like your new E-mail address. JOHN WILHAM

That map is interesting in that it shows some old towns and place names that no longer exist. I recently found more place names like that and will be organizing that too at some point. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

It was the 1886 History. I have inquired of the Society if they would consider a reprint since we have several folks who are interested just on this list. They have not responded. I sent a letter so they'd have something to discuss and they sent me the requested items in the letter so I know they got it. It isn't something I would expect an instant response on. I have the 1982 History. The one thing about it is that is it is contributed, rather like World Family Tree and similiar sources. There's no way to know if it is accurate. Certainly some parts were left out by some people, bad marriages and resulting children for example, as well as creating a more impressive lineage. This isn't confined to contributed histories. In the 1911 Stringer history I have found several errors. I ASSUME he asked for information and wrote what he got. If people forgot about something and failed to mention it he couldn't write it. But he left out several marriages which had children on some of my ancestors and I'm sure he didn't just single my ancestors out -- those are just the ones that would be obvious to me. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

Cheryl: Where is this Lake Bank Cemt.?? Marilyn - Fla. clrothwell@mindspring.com wrote: > Thanks to the hard work of Mary Ann Radtke the Lake Bank Cemetery listings

Great site for Illinois county maps of 1895 at this site http://www.livgenmi.com/ilcounty.htm