It is highly unlikely there was ever a birth certificate. In 1884 the newspaper in Atlanta was the Argus. The Illinois State Library might be a source for that. "The Library's 4,900 newspaper titles are preserved on nearly 73,000 microfilm reels. As the mandated newspaper repository in Illinois, the Library holds titles from all 102 counties. Many of the newspapers date from the early and mid-nineteenth century, and more than 300 newspapers are currently received through subscription." http://www.state.il.us/hpa/lib/default.htm I note their link to genealogical information requests is broken. <g> As I recall the fees are different for Illinois residents and non Illinois residents. There is a John P. Hornbeck who served in Company G of the 106th in the Civil War. If you look him up on the CW lists in the state archives it should tell you where he enlisted from. The 106th was heavily Logan County. I realize that is years before but it could be a clue. http://www.sos.state.il.us/depts/archives/datcivil.html Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

Cheryl, Is there anyway I could verify a birth in Atlanta, Il, Logan Cty back in July 2, 1884. I am out on a family tree limb, so to speak! My grandfather was supposedly born there. Walter Franklin Hornbeck. I am afraid that it might have been during a migration time and that they didn't actually live there. I can find no information on them. Father was W.W. or Wallace Winslow Hornbeck and mother was Matilda Ann Sullivan. If anyone could help I would greatly appreciate it, I am even willing to pay someone. Thanks for you assist. Judy Hornbeck in SC _______________________________________________________ Visit Excite Shopping at http://shopping.excite.com The fastest way to find your Holiday gift this season

Thank you for the offers of lookups I received for Bethel Cemetary listings for my family. I did get the information for my 4th Gr-grandparents, Jefferson L Summers, & his wife Charolette Summers and I am very grateful. Unfortunately, the lady that offered to do the lookup for the rest of the family for me had a computer crash before she could look up the rest of the family for me. So, I still really (desperately) need their son,(my 3rdgr-grandparents) Elias C Summers, his wife Mary J Summers, hopefully some clues to the relationships of some of Charolette's (my 4thgr grandmother)family, the Carnahan's, who should be buried at Bethel also. The date range would be 1860-1900. Does anyone have an index for Bethel cemetaries for a lookup for me? I would be very grateful for any help. Thank you Judy Laros jlaros@earthlink.net

Good idea Sharon. there are quite a few new people on the list so this is a good time for everyone to remind us of the names you are researching. Someone always makes new contacts when we do so it is worth it. My names include Clark, Downing, Harding and Lucas -- and most everyone else in south Logan County. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

Hi Everyone, Here are some of the names I am researching in Logan county. Sharon mnsajt@aol.com or mnsajt@juno.com HICKEY, MALONEY, FOGARTY, BOYLAN, EGAN, EAGAN, MOHAN, MOWEN, HALEY, ROURKE, BURNS, MCGOUGH, MCCABE, ODEA, DWYER, BYRNE, TOMLINSON, MITCHELL, HARTZELL, MILLER, BROOKER, SCHLITT, COOGAN, WACASER, MCNALLY, READ, BROSAMER, FITZIMMONS, HUFFMAN, RYAN ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

There hasn't been anything here on that. I have an idea who might be doing it. I'll have to rustle up that person's name for you a bit later. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

I had a cousin tell me that someone was working on a new history of New Holland. Since I didn't read the news list for about six weeks (working on another project), does anyone know about this or can tell me to contact? Joan Black Lund N9SYV Webmaster for: http://www.tbox.com/isgs http://www.tbox.com/ccgs http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~j-lund http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~j-lund/ares.html http://www.lang.uiuc.edu/study.abroad/index.html

If you wish to post a biography you may submit it to the web site or the GenConnect biography board for Logan. Please do NOT post it to the list. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

An Early Settler of Logan Co., IL JOSEPH ORENDORFF. (1803-1854) Biography of Joseph's youngest son, Alfred Orendorff, in HISTORY OF SANGAMON CO., IL, states that Joseph was a native of North Carolina and gives his birthdate. This is in contrast with birthplace given in census records, which frequently are in error. In the Sangamon Co. history is a brief biography of Joseph's German grandfather, Christopher Orendorff. The grandfather's second son, Christopher (or Christian?) was married at Hagerstown, MD in 1791 to Elizabeth Phillips and soon after spent some time in Georgia and South Carolina, but finally settled in North Carolina, where on 25 November 1803 their son, Joseph Orendorff, was born. Although Joseph and Elizabeth Stephens married in Sangamon Co., IL, Logan Co. their subsequent residence, was formed 1839 and in the 1840 census they appear in the latter county. Males: 1 under 5; 2 ages 5-10; 1 20 and under 30; 2 under 40. Females: 1 under 5; 1 10-15; 1 20-30; 1 under 40. Both parents were born ca. 1802/1803 and thus were under 40 in 1840. Since the couple were married June 1833 in Sangamon Co., IL, we surmise Elizabeth, born in Kentucky, had been some visiting relatives, namely her sister Mary, wife of William McGraw. In 1833, on June 23, in Sangamon Co., Joseph Orendorff married Elizabeth Stevens [Stephens], "a native of Henderson, KY," according to the biography of her son Alfred Orendorff of Sangamon Co.. According to birthdates given for the pair, each was about 29 years old. (Writer is in possession of marriage record.) Logan Co. cemetery and later census records indicate they lost several children. Joseph's Parents Henderson Co., KY deed indexes show Christopher and Elizabeth Orendorff, the parents, were briefly in Henderson Co., KY. AIS census report called EARLY AMERICAN SERIES, EARLY NORTH CAROLINA, Vol. I, 1600-1789, shows a Christopher Orenduff in Wilkes Co., NC, Morrow District, Tax 1793. (BYU F253, .E2) Prior to 1818, Christopher and Elizabeth Orendorff lived in Tennessee and Kentucky, but in 1818, the couple moved to Washington Co., IL. About 1820, they removed to Sugar Creek, Sangamon Co., IL Joseph's Activities In 1839, the northern part of Sangamon Co. became Logan Co., IL. Early probate records of Sangamon Co., IL, show that Joseph Orendorff was involved in the probate of Jas. N. Clark, who died intestate. Another probate of 1834, No. 165 of Montgomery Warrick, named Alfred and Joseph Orenduff [sic]. This Alfred must have been a brother or possibly an uncle of Joseph, as Joseph's son, Alfred, was either a minor, b. ca. 1835, or not yet born. See below for 1850 census showing Joseph's son Alfred as age 5. In 1845, Joseph was a candidate for the 15th General Assembly of Illinois, and he lost the election by four votes. 1850 census, Logan Co., IL, 30 Oct 1850 shows Joseph Orendorff was 46 years old, giving him an approximate birthdate of 1804, real estate $6,000. Although his place of birth is given as "S.C.," two biographies of his son Alfred state he was born in North Carolina. Joseph's wife, Elizabeth, b. KY, was the same age. All four sons were born in Illinois and all attend school: James, age 16 Robert, age 16 (they were twins) Christopher, age 14 Alfred, age 5 Victor Reese, age 16, $400, b. Ohio Biography of Elizabeth Stephens II Orendorff contains information about deeds in Henderson Co., KY executed in 1845 (K-450-451) and in 1851 by herself and husband Joseph Orendorff and her sister Mary McGraw and her husband, William McGraw. They, along with the Christopher Ewings, were residents of Logan Co., heirs of David Stephens, decd (ca. 1813, administration Henderson Co., KY). Christopher Ewing's first wife was said to be Margaret Ann williams (d. 1849) who is believed to be a niece of Elizabeth Stephens Orendorff. Niblick Cemetery, Logan Co., IL cemetery inscriptions show Joseph died 18 Sep 1854. His wife died twelve years later. ........ ILLINOIS HISTORICAL COLLECTIONS V 18, p. 420 (University Research Library, UCLA call no F536 I29c, V. 18 shows Joseph Orendorff was candidate for General Assembly from Logan Co., IL.) Submitted by Evelyn W. Wallace hdanw@aol.com Would like to hear from persons interested in this family. May be able to share more information about other Orendorff family members.

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I went right there just now... Looks to me like they've changed the format of the pages. At 09:17 AM 1/6/2000 -0600, you wrote: >Are you able to access familytreemaker.com? Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

Are you able to access familytreemaker.com? I have tried many times over the past week and keep getting the message that Netscape is unable to find such an address; telling me to check the address and try again. I wonder if they are shut down for the Y2K problem or is it just Netscape that can't find them? Alberta Lisk Webevannin@aol.com wrote: > > Would like to let the lady searching Atterberry from Logan County know that > there is some info at > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/r/a/James-E-Branch/ > There is an Atterberry text file on this page. > Click on World Connect link for GEDCOM. There are actually a lot of folk > there from Logan County, so someone else might find something too. > There is a link to take you back to Logan County Web. > Lois > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > To post a message so everyone on ILLOGAN-L or ILLOGAN-D receives it, send the message to: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > It will then be sent on to everyone in both ILLOGAN-L or ILLOGAN-D.

To let you know. Went to Rootsweb and they say World Connect is down for right now.

Hi Cheryl, Yes, I can get into MyFamily.com, but World Connect is a busy little puppy this morning and I get connection timed out. Went there early this morning and it was working then. Hope I put down address right: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/r/a/James-E-Branch Take Care, Lois

Would like to let the lady searching Atterberry from Logan County know that there is some info at http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/r/a/James-E-Branch/ There is an Atterberry text file on this page. Click on World Connect link for GEDCOM. There are actually a lot of folk there from Logan County, so someone else might find something too. There is a link to take you back to Logan County Web. Lois

>From Ancestry.com online newsletter of 1/5/00 -- free databases which may be useful. Note they are only free briefly. DATABASE OF THE DAY (Free for 10 Days!) <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ================================================== REVOLUTIONARY WAR MUSTER ROLLS Among the defining conflicts in the history of the United States, the Revolutionary War touched the lives of millions of people. This database is a collection of records kept by the National Archives that list men who fought for the colonies during the war. Transferred from microfilm to electronic format by Direct Data Capture, it contains the names of nearly 426,000 individuals. Each record provides the soldier's name, company and unit of service. Additionally, rank information is included along with box and roll numbers in the National Archives to aid the researcher in obtaining copies of the original record. The records in this database were taken from rolls in the National Archives numbered RG94 and M860. Bibliography: Direct Data Capture. "Revolutionary War Muster Rolls." [Database online] Orem, UT: Ancestry, Inc., 1999. To search this database, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4282.htm _________________________________________________________ LDS MILITARY RECORDS, 1840-1847 Formed shortly after the founding of Nauvoo, Illinois, the Nauvoo Legion was a part of the Illinois Militia even though all its members were Latter-day Saints. This database is a listing of men who served in the legion between 1840 and 1844. It also contains a listing of men mustered in July 1846 into what was called the Mormon Battalion. Each entry contains the soldier's name, rank and commission date. Containing the names of nearly 1,000 men, it can be a helpful source of information for researchers of early Mormon ancestors. Bibliography: Platt, Lyman. "Early LDS Military Records." [Database online] Orem, UT: Ancestry, Inc., 1999. To search this database, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4233.htm Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

I'm interested. What are the "specs" and cost of a palm pilot? ---Jan Cheryl Rothwell wrote: > Do you have a PalmPilot? I can't imagine life without one. Forget those > bulky day planners and address books. You can get all that and much, much > more in a Pilot. Heck, you can even read your email if you want. Here are a > couple free programs which allow you to put your genealogy on the Palm. > > Genealogy for the Palm Pilot <http://members.aol.com/TJLivett/> > > This is really a way to take certain kinds of notes while researching. > > GedPalm <http://pages.prodigy.net/gordondjc/ghcs/> > > This program allows you to get GEDCOM information on your Palm so the > information is always at hand. > > Cheryl Rothwell > clrothwell@mindspring.com > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > Your County Coordinator can ALWAYS use help. What can you do? clrothwell@mindspring.com

Do you have a PalmPilot? I can't imagine life without one. Forget those bulky day planners and address books. You can get all that and much, much more in a Pilot. Heck, you can even read your email if you want. Here are a couple free programs which allow you to put your genealogy on the Palm. Genealogy for the Palm Pilot <http://members.aol.com/TJLivett/> This is really a way to take certain kinds of notes while researching. GedPalm <http://pages.prodigy.net/gordondjc/ghcs/> This program allows you to get GEDCOM information on your Palm so the information is always at hand. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE don't give your snail mail address or phone number in a list message. The world is full of nuts and all of them can read the archives of this mailing list. Make that a rule of thumb for any public forum and be safe. You can exchange snail mail addresses in private emails. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

The new Illinois Ancestor Registry is finished. The URL is http://tn-3.rootsweb.com/~marce/ilar/index.html You can register surnames for your Illinois ancestors and/or search for them. If one of your surnames is Clark or Smith or something like that you might want to think about it but if it is less common then this can be a good tool. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com