I am forwarding this to the list. To respond you MUST go to the link. The poster is NOT on this list. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 11:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Looking for Mann,Houston, Surnames: Mann Huston Landis Baston Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Wg.2ADI/184.186.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Is the Charles F. Huston who marriage Elizabeth Jane Mann, daughter of Michael Jacob Mann, the son of James Huston and Mary Batson??? Also could the wife of Michael Jacob Mann be Elizabeth Landis. I have no proof positive but in the IGI of the LDS church they list the wife of Micheal as Elizabeth Landis. I know there are a ton of mistakes there so I am just tossing it out as a question. Is the Andew ho married Hannah the brother to Charles???? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.745 / Virus Database: 497 - Release Date: 8/27/2004

Sorry, that wasn't intended for the list. --- Joan Lund <[email protected]> wrote: > How did your new house fair with Hurricane Ivan? > > I just went through Hurricane Jeanne with my > sister-in-law having gone down to Palm Beach Gardens > last week to see what kind of damage she had with > Hurricane Frances. The eye of both of these > hurricanes > hit just 30 miles north of her. > > ===== > Joan Black Lund > [email protected] > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~joanlund/ > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are > in mail mode, send to > [email protected] If you are receiving > messages in the digest mode, send to > [email protected] > > ===== Joan Black Lund [email protected] http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~joanlund/

The Illinois State Genealogical Society uses the terms active, inactive, and despoiled. Despoiled means that it was known that a cemetery exited there at one time but has been plowed over or disappeared with time. Sometimes a despoiled site can change to inactive and we have had inactive ones become active. I plan to work on one this fall in Mason County that has all but disappeared but the plot has been fenced off for years. ===== Joan Black Lund [email protected] http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~joanlund/

How did your new house fair with Hurricane Ivan? I just went through Hurricane Jeanne with my sister-in-law having gone down to Palm Beach Gardens last week to see what kind of damage she had with Hurricane Frances. The eye of both of these hurricanes hit just 30 miles north of her. ===== Joan Black Lund [email protected] http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~joanlund/

Marilyn, Patrick Kelly was my family ancestor. Bill was just doing a look up in some Logan records -- a great wonderful favor for me. I do have a John Burns(US)/Byrne(as born in Ireland) who married a Mary Murphy in Lincoln, IL in 1868. They had eight kids including a Mary (Mollie) Burns who married a James Murphy. It looks like a close coincidence but not a match up with you lines! Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Underwood" <[email protected]> To: "James Castellan" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 3:37 AM Subject: RE: [ILLOGAN] Question on naturalization records > Bill: > Is your Kelly's connected with Burns of Atlanta, Logan Co., IL? I have my > g.g.grandparents, John Burns m. Mary Ann Kelly somewhere in PA around > 1848-1850, by 1854 > they were in Atlanta, Il. > Thanks > Marilyn - Fla. > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Castellan [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 3:33 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN] Question on naturalization records > > > Hi Bill! > > Could you let me know if you see Patrick Kelly in the Logan Co. > naturalization records? The 1870 census had a mark in the "male citizen 21+" > column but that might be a bad enumerator. He was in the area around late > 1850s-1870. > > Thanks. > > Jim Castellan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 4:24 PM > Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN] Question on naturalization records > > > > Troy, > > > > I have a partial listing of naturalizations that I am putting together. > If > > the name you are looking for is in A-M , > > I might be able to help you. I am not even positive that I have a > complete > > set of those for sure. > > > > Bill Detmers > > > > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, send to > [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest > mode, send to [email protected] > >

Troy, As I go through my "partial book" of naturalizations, I find there is a varying amount of information on individuals. This is all there is for Peter: Langenbahn, Peter Minor's declaration and final oath. Filed October 6, 1888. There is no volume or page number listed for him. The 1910 census shows that he arrived in America in 1883. Bill

Thanks for looking, Bill. I missed that date on the 1910 census, it makes him 15 when he came over instead of 12, which seems more plausible. Sounds like it might be worth taking a look at the original document to see if there is any more info listed. Troy [email protected] wrote: Troy, As I go through my "partial book" of naturalizations, I find there is a varying amount of information on individuals. This is all there is for Peter: Langenbahn, Peter Minor's declaration and final oath. Filed October 6, 1888. There is no volume or page number listed for him. The 1910 census shows that he arrived in America in 1883. Bill ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, send to [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to [email protected] --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers!

Yes, I actually work a block from the museum. I've used the Stevenson-Ives library a couple of times, but my ancestors were all Logan Co. so it wasn't too useful for me. But if you ever need to do research for McLean Co. they have a lot of local history resources, as does the Bloomington Public Libarary. Troy [email protected] wrote: Troy, I think the Bloomington-Normal Genealogical Society changed its name to the McLean County Genealogical Society some years ago, and is located on the square in downtown Bloomington (the old court house.) I think the Library lending still uses a Normal P.O. Box number. Bill Detmers ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, send to [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to [email protected] --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today!

Hi John. Actually, what I'm referring to in Normal is the Family History Center operated by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. You can order films held by the Family History Library in Utah. If you haven't ever visited the site, the web address is www.familysearch.org. You can search for records and if you find family members in their records it will tell you the film # and such that you can use to order and then view the microfilms & fiche. When I make it there I'll be sure to let you know how it goes. Here's the details for the Normal branch. Troy Normal Illinois 1st & 2nd 1628 W. Hovey Ave Normal, McLean County, Illinois, United States Phone: 309-454-4794 Hours: T-W 6:30pm-8:30pm; Sat 9am-11am; Sun 12pm-1pm. [input] [input] [input] [input] [input] [input] Refine Search: [input] [input] -->Note: These are not mailing addresses. Because of limited staff, Family History Centers cannot respond to mail inquiries. Troy: I also live in Heyworth and I would like to know also how to utilize the microfilm and microfish. I have not yet visited the Normal Genealogical Library. If you go there or to Lincoln, maybe you could E-mail me a report? JOHN WILHAM, 4873 Country Oaks, Heyworth. ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, send to [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to [email protected] --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today!

Bill, The name I'm looking for is Peter Langenbahn. I have a date of Oct. 6, 1888. Troy [email protected] wrote: Troy, I have a partial listing of naturalizations that I am putting together. If the name you are looking for is in A-M , I might be able to help you. I am not even positive that I have a complete set of those for sure. Bill Detmers ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, send to [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to [email protected] --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages!

Thank you Bill for your very prompt and helpful reply. I'll contact Logan County Clerk to obtain the naturalization record listed. Also thanks for the "negative" on Martin Kelly's headstone being located in Holy Cross or St. Marys Cemeteries. One for two isn't too bad! Thanks agin for your generous help. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN] Question on naturalization records > Hi Jim, > > Patrick Kelly is listed as: > Kelly, Patrick Final Record of Naturalization, Volume 1, page 165. Date > filed -October 10, 1862. See Original > > Hope this helps as this is all I have for him. > > Bill >

Troy, I think the Bloomington-Normal Genealogical Society changed its name to the McLean County Genealogical Society some years ago, and is located on the square in downtown Bloomington (the old court house.) I think the Library lending still uses a Normal P.O. Box number. Bill Detmers

Hi Bill! Could you let me know if you see Patrick Kelly in the Logan Co. naturalization records? The 1870 census had a mark in the "male citizen 21+" column but that might be a bad enumerator. He was in the area around late 1850s-1870. Thanks. Jim Castellan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN] Question on naturalization records > Troy, > > I have a partial listing of naturalizations that I am putting together. If > the name you are looking for is in A-M , > I might be able to help you. I am not even positive that I have a complete > set of those for sure. > > Bill Detmers >

In a message dated 9/29/2004 7:01:08 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Cheryl, You told me that Logan Co. has the naturalization records. I also noticed on the Logan Co. resources page that LDS has microfilms of them, but in reading the entry I'm a little fuzzy on how to interpret what they have. It looks like there are several rolls. Have you used these (or has anyone else out there)? Any idea which is easier...going to the courthouse or ordering the rolls? I live in Heyworth so travel to Lincoln is no problem; there's also a family history center in Normal where I could order and use the rolls. Troy Semple Troy: I also live in Heyworth and I would like to know also how to utilize the microfilm and microfish. I have not yet visited the Normal Genealogical Library. If you go there or to Lincoln, maybe you could E-mail me a report? JOHN WILHAM, 4873 Country Oaks, Heyworth.

In a message dated 9/29/2004 7:01:08 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I have no idea why [email protected] would bounce. I own the domain. Maybe they think bigfoot.com is a spam mailer? Having had bigfoot addresses I know it is not. I'll check into that. The phone number was provided to me by the Cemetery District. It is a private number. The person has no involvement with genealogy, just a cemetery contact. I'll check into it. However, the contact for any cemetery will not necessarily know who is buried there or how to locate a specific grave. In some cases they are merely the person who can open the gate. A couple suggestions. First, a person on this list might own the cemetery book which includes Holy Cross and would be so kind as to look your ancestor up for you. Newspapers might be useful. A list of the newspapers with dates at the Lincoln Library can be found at http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/newspapers.htm You can also ask for research from the Logan County Genealogical & Historical Society. http://www.rootsweb.com/~illcghs/ Cheryl: I sometimes have an E-mail bounce when friends have taken a vacation, and their E-mail cache or "spooler" has filled up. Also, it has happened when too many E-mails have gone to the address in a short time. JOHN WILHAM

Troy, I have a partial listing of naturalizations that I am putting together. If the name you are looking for is in A-M , I might be able to help you. I am not even positive that I have a complete set of those for sure. Bill Detmers

I have no personal experience with naturalization records. The Logan County G&S did listings of the naturalization records in Roots and Branches and eventually I believe collected them all into a publication. There is a cut off date as I understand it -- before a certain date they are at the county and after that they are federal records. If you have names and dates it might work to go to Lincoln. If you are going to have to search you might be better off ordering the microfilm because they aren't going to let you search their records in Lincoln and they will only search and copy them as time permits. Both clerks have other other duties, as you know, and can't drop everything to do this. Depending on which clerk it is, they are going to be tied up with the election on top of their other duties for the next 6 weeks I imagine. It might be the circuit clerk, as a court proceeding but, since they don't do it anymore it might end up being the clerk/recorder. Why not give them a call and see what the situation is? County Clerk/Recorder [Sally Litterly](217) 732-4148; Circuit Clerk [Carla Bender](217) 735-2376 They both have general web sites too: http://www.co.logan.il.us/county_clerk/ http://www.co.logan.il.us/circuit_clerk/ Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.745 / Virus Database: 497 - Release Date: 8/27/2004

Thanks, Cheryl. Always appreciate your advice. Troy Cheryl Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote: I have no personal experience with naturalization records. The Logan County G&S did listings of the naturalization records in Roots and Branches and eventually I believe collected them all into a publication. There is a cut off date as I understand it -- before a certain date they are at the county and after that they are federal records. If you have names and dates it might work to go to Lincoln. If you are going to have to search you might be better off ordering the microfilm because they aren't going to let you search their records in Lincoln and they will only search and copy them as time permits. Both clerks have other other duties, as you know, and can't drop everything to do this. Depending on which clerk it is, they are going to be tied up with the election on top of their other duties for the next 6 weeks I imagine. It might be the circuit clerk, as a court proceeding but, since they don't do it anymore it might end up being the clerk/recorder. Why not give them a call and see what the situation is? County Clerk/Recorder [Sally Litterly](217) 732-4148; Circuit Clerk [Carla Bender](217) 735-2376 They both have general web sites too: http://www.co.logan.il.us/county_clerk/ http://www.co.logan.il.us/circuit_clerk/ Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.745 / Virus Database: 497 - Release Date: 8/27/2004 ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, send to [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to [email protected] --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers!

I have no idea why [email protected] would bounce. I own the domain. Maybe they think bigfoot.com is a spam mailer? Having had bigfoot addresses I know it is not. I'll check into that. The phone number was provided to me by the Cemetery District. It is a private number. The person has no involvement with genealogy, just a cemetery contact. I'll check into it. However, the contact for any cemetery will not necessarily know who is buried there or how to locate a specific grave. In some cases they are merely the person who can open the gate. A couple suggestions. First, a person on this list might own the cemetery book which includes Holy Cross and would be so kind as to look your ancestor up for you. Newspapers might be useful. A list of the newspapers with dates at the Lincoln Library can be found at http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/newspapers.htm You can also ask for research from the Logan County Genealogical & Historical Society. http://www.rootsweb.com/~illcghs/ Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.745 / Virus Database: 497 - Release Date: 8/27/2004

Cheryl, You told me that Logan Co. has the naturalization records. I also noticed on the Logan Co. resources page that LDS has microfilms of them, but in reading the entry I'm a little fuzzy on how to interpret what they have. It looks like there are several rolls. Have you used these (or has anyone else out there)? Any idea which is easier...going to the courthouse or ordering the rolls? I live in Heyworth so travel to Lincoln is no problem; there's also a family history center in Normal where I could order and use the rolls. Troy Semple --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage!