Here's a link to a site that claims to provide locations for cemeteries. What it does is give you clickable links to several mapping sites. http://sjcook.com/genealogy/findcem/us/il/ Needless to say, I didn't check them all out. Feedback on this to the list would be useful to other researchers. If it works well it is a good resource. Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: 4/7/2005

Cheryl Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote: > On citing your sources you might want to investigate Mills - Elizabeth Shown > Mills, Evidence - Citation and Analysis for the Family Historian. It's more > modern than Lackey. TMG helps you cite your sources properly too, annoying > as it can be as it forces you to do it. *Evidence* is definitely the book to get. Elizabeth Mills is, in my opinion and that of many others, the pace setter in genealogy today and her guide is without doubt the most authoritative in the field. She is currently working on an extensive update of her book. > I admit, I didn't cite starting out and paid dearly for it. With odd things > [and aren't most of them odd?] I find citing to be a pain in the rear but it > should be done. I echo what Cheryl said, having suffered a similar fate. The following is taken from an on-line course I once did for the Genealogy Methods Mailing List: While "sources" and "documentation" can both be "citations," most often they are quite different things. Every item in your database has a source and you will do yourself a great favor if you record that source when you enter that item, either electronically or in another medium. I can state from dreadful experience that you will come to regret it if you don't. [From: Understanding Sources, Citations, Documentation And Evaluating Evidence In Genealogy. On line at: http://www.pipeline.com/~richardpence/classdoc.htm > The issue of believing a source is quite different. I have a line the DAR > took as proven and I proved it was wrong - he served, just not as they said > he did. No one is perfect and more recent research can disprove long held > beliefs and good research. Cheryl, as you have already learned, demonstrating that some DAR-accepted lines are not accurate is sometimes pretty easy. In the past, quite a few applications were accepted without adequately being documented. That's why the DAR no will longer let anyone in on previous approved lines. You must do your own research and documentation. (For a case study, see "Which Jacob Pence?" an article I once wrote for the National Genealogical Society Quarterly, at: http://www.pipeline.com/~richardpence/shenback.htm#which As the title indicates, evaluating evidence is amount the topics in the above-mentioned course. Regards, Richard A. Pence 3211 Adams Ct. Fairfax, Virginia 22030 703-591-4243 Pence Family History <www.pipeline.com/~richardpence/>

I'm going up to Samford University, where Mills is, in a couple weeks for a conference. There is a larger one there in June, a week long I believe. She will also be on the genealogy cruise I am going on in the late fall. I expect to meet her at one or both. The previous proof of my ancestor used my ancestor's genealogy [more or less] and tacked it on to another guy's service. I guess there were several of the same name and the prior proof of my ancestor with his real service had been done by a totally different line -- the DAR thought they were different men. Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.4 - Release Date: 4/6/2005

There are a lot of missing stones in the old part of Lucas but Mrs. Pierce doesn't seem to fall into that time frame. I would say the creek was out and eventually that did the stones in as that area is also closest to the creek. It seems to me the creek was out at least every other year, sometimes several times, when I was young. We used to swim in the flooded fields -- but not in the creek as that was deadly. Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.4 - Release Date: 4/6/2005

Thank you very interesting on the Logan co. website I have several obits for members of the Morris family that you might find interesting ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:21 PM Subject: [ILLOGAN] Unhappy Existence Ends > Lincoln Daily Courier, March 7, 1904 > AN UNHAPPY EXISTENCE ENDS > Eliza Pierce, Once One of the Prominent and Prosperous Women of the County > Suicides > SAD ENDING OF HUMAN LIFE > > Without a Home and Suffering From Remorse and Melancholy the Unhappy and > Miserable Being Seeks Rest in the Grave > > Between 6 and 7 o'clock Saturday night, on the steps of Coroner > Boyen's office, on Pulaski street, an elderly and portly woman was seen > swallowing something taken from a paper. The person seemed eager to > obtain all there was in the paper, which eagerness probably was excitement > over an act later producing death. > > The act was witnessed by occupants of the Gaus boarding house, corner > of Logan and Pulaski street, who had observed the woman walking up and > down the street in an aimless sort of a way for an hour or so. It was not > long after the act of swallowing the potion that the sequel revealed a > case of suicide. > > It was probably 6:20 p.m. when Lynn W. Parker in walking along > Pulaski street from the Central school building toward the business > district found ___?____(unable to read smudge in print) close to the > wagon went and knocked at Hassenstats. He inquired to ascertain her > trouble and upon __?__ was requested to take her to the home of Coroner > Boyden, humanely did so and there she was identified as Eliza Pierce who > was estranged from her husband and children several years ago. > > Upon arriving in front of the coroner's office one of the spasms > produced by strychnine came on and she fell. Mr. Parker and another person > aided her into the office and Mr. Boyden was called and in answer to his > query, she said she had heart trouble. Dr. Rembe was called and responded > and to him she told she had swallowed strychnine. The doctor resorted to > heroic measures to save her life, but death ensued in a brief time, > following the act of taking the terrible poison. > - - - - - > > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, send to > [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the > digest mode, send to [email protected] >

Lincoln Star - 12 Aug 1926 PIERCE, PIONEER, IS DEAD IN OKLAHOMA Hiram L. Pierce, pioneer farmer, soldier, politician and town builder passed away this week in his ninety-second year. His funeral took place today in the town of Broken Arrow, Okla., which he helped build. Lincoln relatives received the delayed telegram announcing his death too late to attend the funeral. A grand-daughter, Mrs. Alonzo Larison, resides in Lincoln. She made frequent visits to Oklahoma in recent years. Hiram L. Pierce was born in Chattaraugus county, New York, August 7, 1834. He came to Lincoln as a young man, becoming a farmer and stock raiser. He owned and farmed for many years the ground now occupied by Owen Beaver, as his home farm, five miles west of Lincoln. Served Through War Mr. Pierce served through the greater part of the Civil war. He enlisted as a private and was brevetted a lieutenant at the close of his service. Returning at once to Lincoln where he had established himself. Mr. Pierce became a leading figure in West Lincoln. He was a member of the board of supervisors from his township for a number of years and was a leader in progressive moments. One of the incidents of those years recalled by a citizen today was the successful effort to get rid of hitch racks around the court house. Mr. Pierce had a friend on the board propose that racks be abolished. A majority, including Pierce, voted "No." At the next session several "hitchrack supervisors" absented themselves and Mr. Pierce took advantage of his negative vote to secure a reconsideration. The hitchracks were voted out and they never came back. Sheriff 1870-1872 Mr. Pierce was sheriff of Logan county during the years 1870-1872 at the time the Zura Burns case was a national topic. A man suspected and tried for the crime was acquitted and Mr. Pierce headed a group of fifty citizens who called upon the suspect and ordered him to leave the county in 24 hours. This he did. The gentleman who comprised the "committee" bought the sheriff a gold-headed cane as a memento of the occasion. Mr. Pierce who never learned to read or write until after he came out of the army was honored by his neighbors with a term in the state legislature serving through the sessions (hard to read, ??? looks like) 1880 to 1882 He participated in the struggle against alien land ownership in Illinois, a measure aimed at "Lord Scully" who became a citizen of the United States to protect his holdings. Moved to Texas Financial (unable to read bad print / reverses?) in the nineties caused Mr. Pierce to give up farming and he moved to Texas, but after two years went to Indian Territory where he helped build the little settlement Broken Arrow into a town with a municipal government and a school district. He acted a judge, sheriff and police (unable to read) in the pioneer days of his new community administering justice and preserving peace between the whites and the Indians of his section. During "dull" times he operated a general store. Mr. Pierce was married three times, the third wife, surviving his death. Mr. Pierce had three children by his first wife and five by the second. Most of his children are deceased. A number of grandchildren are living. Mr. Pierce became converted while living in Saginaw, Texas, and at once united with a Christian church. He became an active church worker and for many years was superintendent of a Sunday school. He was also a thirty-third degree Mason, affiliating with the Masonic bodies while a resident of Lincoln.

Part 2 The ending of the unhappy life was not a surprise although a shock. Mrs. Pierce had frequently declared her intentions of committing the deed and even explained how she would do it by having in her possession available a large dose of Strychnine. For years her mind was affected and she lived in various places and was morose and despondent. She was an inmate of St. Clara's hospital for a long time, then lived for brief periods with old acquaintances who could not keep her, as she was a burden, being blind and so old she was no longer able to work. Recently she lived with Mrs. Doyle and Mrs. Williams on Fourth street. Within a few weeks Mrs. Pierce lived in the Central house on South Kickapoo street, where she remained as long as she would be kept, as she was in the custom of doing. When ordered to seek another home she walked out on the streets and concluded to give up the battle for life and atone for her past by sacrificing what is dearest and sweetest to mortal - life. The deceased had a horror of becoming an inmate of the county house and repeatedly declared she would commit suicide rather than go there and she kept her word. She was aided by the county when the inmate of homes, and labored under the idea that arrangements were being completed to send her the the county home, therefore the tragical incident and end of a life once of much usefulness and value to a family and community. The ending of the unhappy and unfortunate life naturally causes a pang of sorrow among former friends and acquaintances, who were numerous in the days of happiness and prosperity. Yet, everything considered, however deplorable the deed, the victim is far better off, as unhappiness and sorrow and suffering are forever ended and in the grave the frailities and the mistakes of the deceased will be buried with her. The unfortunate was in her youth, a woman of remarkable energy, strength and courage. She was hospitable and obliging, kind-hearted and charitable - when able to give. Her husband, whom she married in 1861, was a prominent man in this county. And to them were born four children - two sons and two daughters, who are living in distant states and territories. The deceased whose maiden name was Eliza Horn, was born in Pike county, Illinois, and came to Logan county when a young woman. She was married in 1861 and lived for nearly twenty years with her husband, and when ? children were grown to ?? manhood their paths ? and both ? The funeral ? place, Wednesday. The exercises will be held in the office of Coroner Boyden at 10:00 o'clock and the remains will be taken to Lucas cemetery for interment. Note: No stone listed for Eliza Pierce at Lucas Chapel Cemetery, Corwin, Logan, IL

Lincoln Daily Courier, March 7, 1904 AN UNHAPPY EXISTENCE ENDS Eliza Pierce, Once One of the Prominent and Prosperous Women of the County Suicides SAD ENDING OF HUMAN LIFE Without a Home and Suffering From Remorse and Melancholy the Unhappy and Miserable Being Seeks Rest in the Grave Between 6 and 7 o'clock Saturday night, on the steps of Coroner Boyen's office, on Pulaski street, an elderly and portly woman was seen swallowing something taken from a paper. The person seemed eager to obtain all there was in the paper, which eagerness probably was excitement over an act later producing death. The act was witnessed by occupants of the Gaus boarding house, corner of Logan and Pulaski street, who had observed the woman walking up and down the street in an aimless sort of a way for an hour or so. It was not long after the act of swallowing the potion that the sequel revealed a case of suicide. It was probably 6:20 p.m. when Lynn W. Parker in walking along Pulaski street from the Central school building toward the business district found ___?____(unable to read smudge in print) close to the wagon went and knocked at Hassenstats. He inquired to ascertain her trouble and upon __?__ was requested to take her to the home of Coroner Boyden, humanely did so and there she was identified as Eliza Pierce who was estranged from her husband and children several years ago. Upon arriving in front of the coroner's office one of the spasms produced by strychnine came on and she fell. Mr. Parker and another person aided her into the office and Mr. Boyden was called and in answer to his query, she said she had heart trouble. Dr. Rembe was called and responded and to him she told she had swallowed strychnine. The doctor resorted to heroic measures to save her life, but death ensued in a brief time, following the act of taking the terrible poison. - - - - -

On citing your sources you might want to investigate Mills - Elizabeth Shown Mills, Evidence - Citation and Analysis for the Family Historian. It's more modern than Lackey. TMG helps you cite your sources properly too, annoying as it can be as it forces you to do it. I admit, I didn't cite starting out and paid dearly for it. With odd things [and aren't most of them odd?] I find citing to be a pain in the rear but it should be done. The issue of believing a source is quite different. I have a line the DAR took as proven and I proved it was wrong - he served, just not as they said he did. No one is perfect and more recent research can disprove long held beliefs and good research. Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.4 - Release Date: 4/6/2005

I to have done extensive research and travel on the Elijah Morris line and have been in contact with Jim Morris and have received his research as well as that of Eugene Morris. We all have the same John Morris (found independently) however there is no concrete proof beyond Elijah . Eugene and I have found some information recently and have shared with each other in trying to solve the mystery. It is not ready to be documented as yet as it is a work in progress. The information supplied by D. Hanson has a lot of mis information in it. I also have the information from Pauline Morris Geiger . I have a lot of documented history on the Elijah Morris line forward and undocumented from John backward. Ask for documentation of facts . Norma Morris Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Lund" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN] John Morris > Other persons' family trees are not proof. I do know > that Jim Morris and Pauline Morris Grieger worked on > this for a number of years. Jim did extensive > traveling both on the Morris line and on the Richards > line and was never able to unscramble either of these > (1985-early 90's). Yes, it was John, but which John > Morris is the question. > > I have a line that has been repeated since 1878 in > various family histories but it is not right. I > believe in the perponderance of truth. This is one > disadvantages of the internet. A person can just say > "oh that looks like my line", and doesn't get the > documents to back it up. > > There is a book called "Cite your Sources" by Richard > S. Lackey 1980. Any serious genealogist and family > historian should read it and follow its guidelines. > > Joan > --- [email protected] wrote: >> Attn: Joan Lund, >> Sources: >> One World Tree >> Ancestry World Tree Project >> Robert, John MORRIS, Hanson/Morris Family Tree: >> Dianna Hanson, >> [email protected] >> Elijah Albert Morris, Sr., Source: >> Fletch Williamson Family Tree: Contact, Sandra >> Salyers, [email protected] >> Toy Williams Family Tree: Paul Williams, >> [email protected] >> Norma Morris Smith, [email protected] >> >> >> >> ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== >> To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are >> in mail mode, send to >> [email protected] If you are receiving >> messages in the digest mode, send to >> [email protected] >> >> > > Joan Black Lund > [email protected] > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~joanlund/ > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, send to > [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the > digest mode, send to [email protected] >

Lincoln Evening Star, 29 Nov 1916 Mrs. J. R. Jones Mrs. J. R. Jones, a life long resident of Logan County passed away on Wednesday afternoon at 2:10 at the family home, 516 Fifth street, after an illness of two years with asthma. Decedent has been very low for the past week, and her death was not unexpected. Mrs. J. R. Jones was born in Logan county, August 16, 1849, and was aged 67 years, 3 months and 13 days. She was married in Lincoln and has been a resident of West Lincoln for nearly fifty years. Little particulars are obtainable in regard to her life at this time. She leaves her husband and the following ten children: Mrs. Sarah E. Donavon, of Cheyenne, Wash.; Mrs. Charles Talmage, Mrs. Hazel Cutter and Katherine Jones, William, John, Allie, Alvin, Frank and Bert Jones all of Lincoln. One sister and brother also survive, Mrs. Emma Houch, East Broadway and John Dinsmore. Funeral arrangements are not completed but the services will probably be held on Friday afternoon at the Lincoln Hill Presbyterian church with interment in Union Cemetery. - - - - Wife of James Riley "Rial" Jones, Mary Densmore. Married 23 Nov 1864, Logan

Cool. I believe this is probably the daughter of Sarah Jane Lucas who married Harry Dinsmore. Sarah's father is Peter P. Lucas and his first wife. My ancestor, Amanda Rush Horn, was his 2nd wife. They were married in Pike Co., IL in 1847. Peter P. Lucas is given credit for establishing Detroit in Pike Co. One of Amanda's siblings married a James Dinsmore. I am a descendant of Amanda's first husband. Joan --- [email protected] wrote: > Lincoln Evening Star, 29 Nov 1916 > > Mrs. J. R. Jones > > Mrs. J. R. Jones, a life long resident of > Logan County passed away on > Wednesday afternoon at 2:10 at the family home, 516 > Fifth street, after an > illness of two years with asthma. Decedent has been > very low for the past > week, and her death was not unexpected. > > Mrs. J. R. Jones was born in Logan county, > August 16, 1849, and was > aged 67 years, 3 months and 13 days. She was married > in Lincoln and has > been a resident of West Lincoln for nearly fifty > years. Little particulars > are obtainable in regard to her life at this time. > > She leaves her husband and the following ten > children: Mrs. Sarah E. > Donavon, of Cheyenne, Wash.; Mrs. Charles Talmage, > Mrs. Hazel Cutter and > Katherine Jones, William, John, Allie, Alvin, Frank > and Bert Jones all of > Lincoln. One sister and brother also survive, Mrs. > Emma Houch, East > Broadway and John Dinsmore. > > Funeral arrangements are not completed but the > services will probably > be held on Friday afternoon at the Lincoln Hill > Presbyterian church with > interment in Union Cemetery. > - - - - > Wife of James Riley "Rial" Jones, Mary Densmore. > Married 23 Nov 1864, Logan > > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are > in mail mode, send to > [email protected] If you are receiving > messages in the digest mode, send to > [email protected] > > Joan Black Lund [email protected] http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~joanlund/

Thank you for confirming. What I was reacting to which was someone listing Elijah Morris's father as John's but with John's ancestors. Everyone agrees on a John Morris but not just which one. I hope that you would share what the evidence is when you decide that is probably the correct one. Speaking of Jim Morris, have you had any contact with him recently. It has been a few years since he sent me his research and travel trips on several disks. You can write me off the list at [email protected] Joan Black Lund --- Norma Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > I to have done extensive research and travel on the > Elijah Morris line and > have been in contact with Jim Morris and have > received his research as well > as that of Eugene Morris. We all have the same John > Morris (found > independently) however there is no concrete proof > beyond Elijah . Eugene > and I have found some information recently and have > shared with each other > in trying to solve the mystery. It is not ready to > be documented as yet as > it is a work in progress. > The information supplied by D. Hanson has a lot of > mis information in it. > I also have the information from Pauline Morris > Geiger . > > I have a lot of documented history on the Elijah > Morris line forward and > undocumented from John backward. > > Ask for documentation of facts . > > Norma Morris Smith > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joan Lund" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:47 PM > Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN] John Morris > > > > Other persons' family trees are not proof. I do > know > > that Jim Morris and Pauline Morris Grieger worked > on > > this for a number of years. Jim did extensive > > traveling both on the Morris line and on the > Richards > > line and was never able to unscramble either of > these > > (1985-early 90's). Yes, it was John, but which > John > > Morris is the question. > > > > I have a line that has been repeated since 1878 in > > various family histories but it is not right. I > > believe in the perponderance of truth. This is one > > disadvantages of the internet. A person can just > say > > "oh that looks like my line", and doesn't get the > > documents to back it up. > > > > There is a book called "Cite your Sources" by > Richard > > S. Lackey 1980. Any serious genealogist and family > > historian should read it and follow its > guidelines. > > > > Joan > > --- [email protected] wrote: > >> Attn: Joan Lund, > >> Sources: > >> One World Tree > >> Ancestry World Tree Project > >> Robert, John MORRIS, Hanson/Morris Family Tree: > >> Dianna Hanson, > >> [email protected] > >> Elijah Albert Morris, Sr., Source: > >> Fletch Williamson Family Tree: Contact, Sandra > >> Salyers, [email protected] > >> Toy Williams Family Tree: Paul Williams, > >> [email protected] > >> Norma Morris Smith, [email protected] > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > >> To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you > are > >> in mail mode, send to > >> [email protected] If you are > receiving > >> messages in the digest mode, send to > >> [email protected] > >> > >> > > > > Joan Black Lund > > [email protected] > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~joanlund/ > > > > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you > are in mail mode, send to > > [email protected] If you are > receiving messages in the > > digest mode, send to > [email protected] > > > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are > in mail mode, send to > [email protected] If you are receiving > messages in the digest mode, send to > [email protected] > > Joan Black Lund [email protected] http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~joanlund/

Other persons' family trees are not proof. I do know that Jim Morris and Pauline Morris Grieger worked on this for a number of years. Jim did extensive traveling both on the Morris line and on the Richards line and was never able to unscramble either of these (1985-early 90's). Yes, it was John, but which John Morris is the question. I have a line that has been repeated since 1878 in various family histories but it is not right. I believe in the perponderance of truth. This is one disadvantages of the internet. A person can just say "oh that looks like my line", and doesn't get the documents to back it up. There is a book called "Cite your Sources" by Richard S. Lackey 1980. Any serious genealogist and family historian should read it and follow its guidelines. Joan --- [email protected] wrote: > Attn: Joan Lund, > Sources: > One World Tree > Ancestry World Tree Project > Robert, John MORRIS, Hanson/Morris Family Tree: > Dianna Hanson, > [email protected] > Elijah Albert Morris, Sr., Source: > Fletch Williamson Family Tree: Contact, Sandra > Salyers, [email protected] > Toy Williams Family Tree: Paul Williams, > [email protected] > Norma Morris Smith, [email protected] > > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are > in mail mode, send to > [email protected] If you are receiving > messages in the digest mode, send to > [email protected] > > Joan Black Lund [email protected] http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~joanlund/

Looks like Emma and William are siblings if this census is a link? 1880 Corwin, Logan, IL Abram SHAY, 56, IN, IN, IN, Farmer Wife, Laurinda, 56, VA, VA, VA, Keeping House Son, James K, Widowed, 35, IL, IN, VA, Farm Labor Son, John L, 25, IL, IN, VA, Farm Labor Dau, Harriett E., Single, 21, IL, IN, VA Son, William T, 19, IL, IN, VA, Farm Labor Son, Albert J., 15, IL, IN, VA, At School Dau, Emma A, 10, IL, IN, VA, At School GSon, Samuel A. Shay, 14, IL, IL, IL, At School GDau, Sarah E. Shay, 10, IL, IL, IL, At School Dau, Nancy E. Hudlow, 17, IL, IN, VA GDau, Annie A. Hudlow, 8, IL, IN, IL, At School IL Marriage Index: Nancy E Shay, m. James D. Hudlow, 8 Aug 1872, Mason, Co, IL Annie A. Hudlow, m. Columbus B. Snyder, 7 Sep 1891, Sangamon Emma W Shay, m. Solomon Morris, 30 Oct 1884, Logan (W should read A) Nancy E Jones, m. Willia F Shay, 10 Feb 1886, Logan (should read William)

Attn: Joan Lund, Sources: One World Tree Ancestry World Tree Project Robert, John MORRIS, Hanson/Morris Family Tree: Dianna Hanson, [email protected] Elijah Albert Morris, Sr., Source: Fletch Williamson Family Tree: Contact, Sandra Salyers, [email protected] Toy Williams Family Tree: Paul Williams, [email protected] Norma Morris Smith, [email protected]

>Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:38:59 -0600 >To: "Norma Smith" <[email protected]> >From: [email protected] >Subject: Re: Morris corrections & Additions > >Norma, > >The SHAY line might have a link to the niece of Mary Etta Jones! > >Nancy Ella M. Jones, married William F. Shay, 10 Feb 1886 Logan, he was >b. Jul 1886, Logan. >All I know about William is that his father was b. IN, mother OH. >Nancy "Ella" M Jones, b. Jul 1867, Broadwell, Logan, d/o Richard Worley >Jones & Mary "Callie" Pierce. >Ella was a cook for the state school, 1930 census. West Lincoln. > >Do you think there might be a link with William Shay and Emma Alice Shay? >Brother and Sister? > >William and Nancy Ella had 7 SHAY children all b. Lincoln: >Grace, Ralph, Frank, Paul, Emil, Willma (sp?), and Donald Shay. > >Louisa Baugham, wife of Alonzo Morris is the daughter of ? > >At 10:17 AM 4/7/2005 -0500, you wrote: >>Wife of Elijah Sr. was Kate Martin 1819-1880 Ohio >> >>Wife of Solomon Emma Alice Shay B. July 26 1868 Logan Co. >> D. May 22 >> 1950 Lincoln Il >>Buried in Lucas Chapel Cemetery >> >>Alonzo Morris wife was Louisa Baugham >> >>Clarissa Jane Young Morris was born in 1857 not 1858 >> >>Norma

Norma, Thanks, for your additions. Do you have name of mother of Elijah Sr? Wife of Solomon? Please, Corrections, additions, typo? Descendants of Elijah Albert Morris, Sr 1. ELIJAH ALBERT4 MORRIS, SR (JOHN3, THOMAS2, ROBERT1) was born 1824 in Ohio, father Ohio, mother Ohio, and died 13 Oct 1889 in Logan, IL. He married (1) ELIZABETH J RICHARDS 1849, daughter of ELIJAH JR and SOPHIA HANEY. She was born 26 Apr 1828 in Urbana Twp, Champaign Co., OH, and died 22 Nov 1872 in Lincoln, Logan, IL. He married (2) MARY ETTA JONES 05 May 1873 in Logan County, Illinois, daughter of JAMES JONES and NANCY MCCARTY. She was born 15 Sep 1842 in OH, prob. Ross Co, and died 28 Jan 1918 in Lincoln, Logan, IL. Children of ELIJAH MORRIS and ELIZABETH J RICHARDS are: i. CLARISSA ANN5 MORRIS, b. 1850; d. 1853. ii. MAY O MORRIS, b. 1851; d. 1851. iii. MARY MORRIS, b. 1853; d. 1854. iv. EMELY MORRIS, b. 1855; d. 1855. v. ADAM MORRIS, b. 1856; d. 1858. vi. ELIJAH ALBERT MORRIS, JR, b. 03 Nov 1857, Logan Co, IL, d. 20 Mar 1913, Logan Co, IL; m. CLARISSA "CLARA" JANE YOUNG, 25 Dec 1875, Logan Co, IL b. 30 Nov 1858, IL, father KY, mother OH d. 29 Jul 1950, IL, 1910 census 6 children, 6 living. vii. ALONZO MORRIS, b. 30 Jan 1859, IL, moved to Thayer, York, NE; d. 30 Nov 1940 m. (1) ELIZA; b. 1860, IL, IL, IL; m. (2) LOUISA BANGHAM, (? sp) 13 Feb 1879, Logan Co, IL viii. EDWARD RICHARD MORRIS, b. 09 May 1862, Lincoln, IL; d. 28 Jun 1909, Lincoln. m. JENNIE OLIVE ELLIS, 16 Nov 1886, Logan, b. 11 Jan 1870, Middletown, Logan, IL. ix. SOLOMAN MORRIS, b. 1864, Logan Co, IL; d. 1931. (wife?) x. JAMES MORRIS, b. 1867; d. 1867.

To my knowledge it hasn't been proven which John is the father or Elijah Morris and people have not been able to go back further because of that. If you have proof, I would like to see it. Joan --- [email protected] wrote: > Norma, Thanks, for your additions. Do you have name > of mother of Elijah Sr? > Wife of Solomon? Please, Corrections, additions, > typo? > > Descendants of Elijah Albert Morris, Sr > > 1. ELIJAH ALBERT4 MORRIS, SR (JOHN3, THOMAS2, > ROBERT1) was born 1824 in > Ohio, father Ohio, mother Ohio, and died 13 Oct 1889 > in Logan, IL. He > married (1) ELIZABETH J RICHARDS 1849, daughter of > ELIJAH JR and SOPHIA > HANEY. She was born 26 Apr 1828 in Urbana Twp, > Champaign Co., OH, and died > 22 Nov 1872 in Lincoln, Logan, IL. He married (2) > MARY ETTA JONES 05 May > 1873 in Logan County, Illinois, daughter of JAMES > JONES and NANCY > MCCARTY. She was born 15 Sep 1842 in OH, prob. Ross > Co, and died 28 Jan > 1918 in Lincoln, Logan, IL. > > Children of ELIJAH MORRIS and ELIZABETH J RICHARDS > are: > i. CLARISSA ANN5 MORRIS, b. 1850; d. > 1853. > ii. MAY O MORRIS, b. 1851; d. 1851. > iii. MARY MORRIS, b. 1853; d. 1854. > iv. EMELY MORRIS, b. 1855; d. 1855. > v. ADAM MORRIS, b. 1856; d. 1858. > vi. ELIJAH ALBERT MORRIS, JR, b. 03 Nov > 1857, Logan Co, IL, d. > 20 Mar 1913, Logan Co, IL; > m. CLARISSA "CLARA" JANE YOUNG, 25 > Dec 1875, Logan Co, IL > b. 30 Nov 1858, IL, father KY, > mother OH > d. 29 Jul 1950, IL, 1910 census 6 > children, 6 living. > > vii. ALONZO MORRIS, b. 30 Jan 1859, IL, > moved to Thayer, York, > NE; d. 30 Nov 1940 > m. (1) ELIZA; b. 1860, IL, IL, IL; > m. (2) LOUISA BANGHAM, (? sp) 13 > Feb 1879, Logan Co, IL > > viii. EDWARD RICHARD MORRIS, b. 09 May > 1862, Lincoln, IL; d. 28 > Jun 1909, Lincoln. > m. JENNIE OLIVE ELLIS, 16 Nov 1886, > Logan, b. 11 Jan 1870, > Middletown, Logan, IL. > > ix. SOLOMAN MORRIS, b. 1864, Logan Co, > IL; d. 1931. (wife?) > > x. JAMES MORRIS, b. 1867; d. 1867. > > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are > in mail mode, send to > [email protected] If you are receiving > messages in the digest mode, send to > [email protected] > > Joan Black Lund [email protected] http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~joanlund/

I don't have any information on the elusive Ms. Thompson but I can help with some of the other questions. Elizabeth Richards died in Logan Co. at age 44 and is buried in Lucas Chapel Cemetery. Elijah Morris had 11 children most of which died very young. Listed below Clarissa Ann 1850-1853 May O 1851-1851 Mary 1853 1854 Emely 1855-1855 Adam 1856-1858 Elijah ALbert 1857-1913 My g grandfather Alonzo 1859-1940 Edward Richard 1862-1909 Solomon 1864-1931 William 1866-1866 If anyone is interested i have the day and month of B & D on above as well as where and those that married their wives history. Sophia Haney not Hansey was born April 25, 1803 Urbana Township CHAmpaign Co. Ohio and died November 26, 1867 in Lincoln Norma Morris SMith gg grandaughter of Elijah Morris James 1867-1867 ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 3:15 PM Subject: [ILLOGAN] Stepgrandchildren > Cheryl, I knew you meant "Step." I'm sure everyone knew you meant "STEP." > It is so easy to slip/error when there are soooo many marriages, names, > dates, children, etc. And, "Thank You," for your input on Mary Etta Jones > and her 3 marriages. > > Nieces, nephews and All the theories from everyone are interesting! > Thanks, Joan Lund, for checking the Josiah's Richards children. > Your suggestion on working backwards is the path to follow. > > "The 1918 Mysterious Mrs. M. Thompson of Lincoln Search List" > > 1. The one REAL fact we know she was called, "Mrs. M. Thompson," in 1918, > Lincoln. > 2. The second fact we know is that anything is possible > 3. All the facts are clear that Thompson was NOT the biological daughter > of Mary Etta. > 4. The fact is, somewhere, in Lincoln, is the true story of M. Thompson. > > Melvina Jones, b. 15 Dec 1831, OH, d. 11 Jun 1894, Logan, sister of Mary > Etta, never married. The Jones sisters, were living together in 1880, with > Mary Etta's second husband, Elijah Albert Morris, Sr, and HIS two youngest > sons, Edward R. Morris, 18, and Solomon Morris, 17. > I have 4 sons for Elijah Sr, and his first wife. Elizabeth J. Richards, NO > daughters. > > Elizabeth J. Richards, b. 26 Apr 1826, Urbana, Champaign Co, OH, d. 22 Nov > 1872, Lincoln, > (Joan Lund, I do not show Menard as death place/but open to ALL > corrections) > d/o Elijah Richards, Jr., b. 10 May 1789, VA, d. 18 Apr 1883, Lincoln, > and Sophia Haney. > > Anyone, have anything on Sophia Hansey, mother of Elizabeth J. Richards > Morris? > > Mary Etta's third marriage to Abraham Baughan/Boughan, 1891, marriage > record not found. > He was b. 6 Oct 1832, Corwin, d. 24 Apr 1919, Lincoln, s/o Berryman and > JANE Lucas. > > His children from first marriage, c1853, to Helen Pereta Martin, b. c1840. > James A. Baughan/Boughan, b. 25 Sep 1854, Lincoln, d. 28 Nov 1930, Caton, > Futon, IL > Samuel G. Boughan, b. 1859, Lincoln, d. 12 Sep 1940, Lincoln > > No, step-daughters, only step sons. Step-granddaughter "reared as a > daughter?" Anything is possible! > > Searching my files I found: > Bertha Baughan, b. c1879, Sheridan, m. David Edward Thompson, 18 Oct 1899, > Sangamon. > d/o John Baugahn, and Rosa ? > John is the s/o Lystra/Lester Baughan and Sarah Jane Martin. > I find no children listed for Bertha and David E. Thompson. Bertha is of > the age that she could have lived with her granduncle, Abraham > Baughan/Boughan and his second wife, Mary Etta. > > Thanks again, for all the suggestions and help to everyone submitting. > Please, keep the suggestions coming as they are helpful. GREAT INPUT! > Those that have any ideas, please submit. Any idea, suggestion, welcomed. > Our Logan ancestors must be pleased to see all the friendly help on this > list. This Logan list, is great. > > Kathleen Mae > [email protected] > > At 10:45 AM 4/6/2005 -0500, you wrote: >>After I wrote check grandchildren I realized that I, of course, meant >>stepgrandchildren. Also nieces and nephews. In those days the families >>seem >>to get all jumbled up. I have nieces from Ohio living here with an aunt or >>uncle, marrying locally. >> >>I'm not tracing this line. I'm only casually curious about the Baughans, >>being a descendant of Berryman Baughan Wood. I believe Kathleen got the >>information she has on Mrs. M. Thompson from Mrs. Boughan's obit. It says >>Mrs. M Thompson is "a daughter whom she reared." To me that sounds like a >>stepdaughter but I suppose it could also mean "reared as a daughter." In >>any >>event, M. Thompson isn't a lot to go on. She could be, probably is, a >>widow >>herself. >> >>Cheryl Rothwell >>[email protected] > > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, send to > [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the > digest mode, send to [email protected] >