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    1. RE: [ILLOGAN] Re: ILLOGAN-D Digest V05 #53
    2. Cheryl Rothwell
    3. Oh dear. I see the original message and I DIDN'T GIVE YOU THE LINK. No wonder everyone is confused. Duh! Good thing you are persistent Mary. http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/copelandchristian.htm Soon I will have one of the actual original -- not that it is so different but it is the original. The original does NOT have the index but the one up there now does. If you go to the last pages there is an index of names. Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.3/15 - Release Date: 6/14/2005

    06/20/2005 08:39:58
    1. RE: [ILLOGAN] Genealogy Cruise
    2. Cheryl Rothwell
    3. I'm sure we'll meet. Every spare minute from the time you get on until the time you get off, including until 11 p.m. one evening and as soon as you board on Sunday is taken up with lectures. I may get off HATING genealogy. Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al -----Original Message----- From: Richard Pence [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 10:35 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ILLOGAN] Genealogy Cruise Didn't you tell me you were going on the Genealogy Cruise in November? If so, I am now signed up, too. Perhaps we will get the chance to meet. Richard ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, send to [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to [email protected] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.3/15 - Release Date: 6/14/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.3/15 - Release Date: 6/14/2005

    06/20/2005 08:27:08
    1. Dorothy Bender Obit
    2. T. Semple
    3. Thought I would submit this as I'm related to the Benders through a paternal great-great grandmother, Mary Bender Langenbahn. Troy Semple DOROTHY BENDER MOUNT PULASKI -- Dorothy Helen Bender, 91, of Mount Pulaski died Saturday, June 18, 2005, at 7:15 a.m. at Vonderlieth Living Center. Her funeral will be at 10 a.m. Wednesday at Fricke-Calvert-Schrader Funeral Home in Mount Pulaski, with the Rev. Frank Pieper officiating. Visitation will be one hour prior to the service. Burial will be in Mount Pulaski Cemetery. Miss Bender was a retired photographer. She was born Oct. 19, 1913, in Mount Pulaski to John Frederick and Ruth Von Lobberecht Bender. She is survived by one sister, June Rockwell of Mount Pulaski; one sister-in-law, Harriet Bender of Mount Pulaski; and several nieces and nephews. Four brothers and one sister preceded her in death. She was a member of St. John's Lutheran Church in Mount Pulaski, and memorials may be made to the church. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football

    06/20/2005 06:53:10
    1. Re: ILLOGAN-D Digest V05 #53
    2. mary n. payne
    3. Sorry Cheryl, to be so dumb. Where do I get the pfd file from? Yes,Wiilis was hid gr gr grandfather. Mary [email protected] wrote: ILLOGAN-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 53 Today's Topics: #1 Re: ILLOGAN-D Digest V05 #52 ["mary n. payne" #2 RE: [ILLOGAN] Re: ILLOGAN-D Digest ["Cheryl Rothwell" #3 Genealogy Cruise ["Richard Pence" Administrivia: To unsubscribe from ILLOGAN-D, send a message to [email protected] that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:06:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "mary n. payne" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: ILLOGAN-D Digest V05 #52 I would like to have pictures and any other information on the Copeland's. My husbands family married into this family, his family is the Payne's. Let me know if I owe you anything for this info. Thank you, Mary N. Payne [email protected] wrote: ILLOGAN-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 52 Today's Topics: #1 Copeland Christian Church ["Cheryl Rothwell" Administrivia: To unsubscribe from ILLOGAN-D, send a message to [email protected] that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 18:29:22 -0500 From: "Cheryl Rothwell" To: [email protected] Subject: Copeland Christian Church Finally, after many months trying to decide how to do it, I have uploaded the Copeland Christian Church history faithfully reproduced by Donna Copeland. She typed the document and put the pictures in, working from what she described as a pretty good copy of the original. An index of names is at the end of the document, just as in the original. Donna is a descendant of William Copeland through Abraham Lucas Copeland. If you are interested in any of the pictures contact me and I'll be happy to email you a copy. Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.3/15 - Release Date: 6/14/2005 - ------------------------------- Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football ______________________________Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:51:14 -0500 From: "Cheryl Rothwell" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ILLOGAN] Re: ILLOGAN-D Digest V05 #52 This is not on the Copelands. It is on the church. Read it and see if there is really anything you want. If you save the .pdf file to your computer you'll have everything. I don't know if there are any Copelands in the pictures. Would that be Willis Franklin Payne who married Lydia Copeland? Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.3/15 - Release Date: 6/14/2005 ______________________________Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:35:08 -0400 From: "Richard Pence" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Genealogy Cruise Didn't you tell me you were going on the Genealogy Cruise in November? If so, I am now signed up, too. Perhaps we will get the chance to meet. Richard --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard.

    06/20/2005 06:21:07
    1. Genealogy Cruise
    2. Richard Pence
    3. Didn't you tell me you were going on the Genealogy Cruise in November? If so, I am now signed up, too. Perhaps we will get the chance to meet. Richard

    06/20/2005 05:35:08
    1. RE: [ILLOGAN] Re: ILLOGAN-D Digest V05 #52
    2. Cheryl Rothwell
    3. This is not on the Copelands. It is on the church. Read it and see if there is really anything you want. If you save the .pdf file to your computer you'll have everything. I don't know if there are any Copelands in the pictures. Would that be Willis Franklin Payne who married Lydia Copeland? Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.3/15 - Release Date: 6/14/2005

    06/19/2005 11:51:14
    1. Re: ILLOGAN-D Digest V05 #52
    2. mary n. payne
    3. I would like to have pictures and any other information on the Copeland's. My husbands family married into this family, his family is the Payne's. Let me know if I owe you anything for this info. Thank you, Mary N. Payne [email protected] wrote: ILLOGAN-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 52 Today's Topics: #1 Copeland Christian Church ["Cheryl Rothwell" Administrivia: To unsubscribe from ILLOGAN-D, send a message to [email protected] that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 18:29:22 -0500 From: "Cheryl Rothwell" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Copeland Christian Church Finally, after many months trying to decide how to do it, I have uploaded the Copeland Christian Church history faithfully reproduced by Donna Copeland. She typed the document and put the pictures in, working from what she described as a pretty good copy of the original. An index of names is at the end of the document, just as in the original. Donna is a descendant of William Copeland through Abraham Lucas Copeland. If you are interested in any of the pictures contact me and I'll be happy to email you a copy. Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.3/15 - Release Date: 6/14/2005 --------------------------------- Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football

    06/19/2005 04:06:19
    1. Copeland Christian Church
    2. Cheryl Rothwell
    3. Finally, after many months trying to decide how to do it, I have uploaded the Copeland Christian Church history faithfully reproduced by Donna Copeland. She typed the document and put the pictures in, working from what she described as a pretty good copy of the original. An index of names is at the end of the document, just as in the original. Donna is a descendant of William Copeland through Abraham Lucas Copeland. If you are interested in any of the pictures contact me and I'll be happy to email you a copy. Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.3/15 - Release Date: 6/14/2005

    06/17/2005 12:29:22
    1. Find the county
    2. Cheryl Rothwell
    3. Know the town and the state but need the county? Try this: http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/townco.cgi Remember, mt has to be mount and so on, no abbreviations in the town names. Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.6.7 - Release Date: 6/10/2005

    06/12/2005 06:52:25
    1. Genealogy Book Sale Saturday June 11
    2. The Sangamon County Genealogical Society invites you to come browse our book sale in the comfort of our air conditioned office this Saturday June 11 from 9 am to 2 pm. We offer a wide variety of books at a reasonable price including our very own Sangamon County publications. Board and society members will be available to answer family history related questions throughout the day. A raffle on a basket filled with red, white and blue values will be one of the attractions of the day, this basket and its contents is valued at over $30.00 and tickets can be purchased at $1.00 per chance. The drawing will be held at 2 pm for the lucky winner. Come join us at our 11th Annual White Elephant/Book Sale in cool comfort at 2856 South 11th Street on the corner of Knox and 11th in Springfield, Illinois. Our phone number is 217-529-0542. We hope to see you Saturday. Sincerely, Dan Dixon President Sangamon County Genealogical Society Office Library 2856 South 11th Street (approx. 3 blocks north of Stevenson Drive and approx. 2 1/2 blocks south of Bunn Golf Course) Springfield, Illinois Phone: 217-529-0546 Email: [email protected] Open Wednesday nights 5:30 to 9:00 or by appointment Web Address: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilsangam/scgs/scgs.htm

    06/09/2005 01:56:41
    1. Midwestern Roots genealogy conference
    2. Cheryl Rothwell
    3. I mentioned I recently attended one of these in Alabama where I have no ancestors. You don't have to have ancestors to learn a great deal from these conferences. If you can attend you'll find it worthwhile. Elizabeth Shown Mills is THE expert on citations, worth the trip by herself. Witcher is from the Ft. Wayne Library, one of the largest genealogical libraries in the country. Indianapolis – Some of the nation’s leading genealogy professionals will present at Midwestern Roots 2005: Family History and Genealogy Conference, August 18-20 in Indianapolis. Midwestern Roots, co-sponsored by the Indiana Historical Society and the Indiana Genealogical Society, will feature over 30 presentations covering topics ranging from finding female ancestors, census substitutes, family food traditions and German SS records to baptismal records, preserving family papers, genetics and more. Optional pre-conference activities on Thursday, August 18, range from tours of the William Henry Smith Memorial Library, the Indiana State Library and the Indiana State Archives to writing workshops on preparing family histories for publication, computer labs on genealogy resources available on the internet and a workshop designed for library staff and volunteers who answer questions from genealogy patrons. The Genealogy Division of the Indiana State Library and the Indiana History Center Smith Library also will stay open late for extended research hours. Other activities include a lively panel discussion bringing together genealogists and historians to answer the question, “History and Genealogy: Why Not Both?” The evening will begin with a dessert reception at the Indiana History Center followed by a discussion with nationally-renowned historical genealogists Elizabeth Shown Mills and Curt B. Witcher, Indiana historian James H. Madison and migration historian Marianne S. Wokeck, who will explore how these fields can enrich each other, from uncovering the slightest detail of one life to seeing human history more clearly because of that life. On Friday, August 19, the conference will begin with the opening session by Mills. Mills will explain the standards and processes all researchers need to apply when using family history and genealogical sources. Friday will conclude with a banquet and Mills will give a presentation that encourages taking what is learned about ancestors and conveying it to descendants. On Saturday morning, Madison will begin the day by considering the various migration streams that settled the Midwest and show how their origins, timing and cultural features helped make the region a distinctive part of the nation. Other notable national speakers include genealogists John S. Humphrey, Diane Gagel, Elizabeth Kelley Kerstens, Tony Burroughs and Kandie Adkinson. The Indiana Historical Society and the Indiana Genealogical Society will offer six scholarships for individuals to attend the conference. The scholarship application can be found at www.indianahistory.org/midwesternroots <outbind://11/cwood/Local%20Settings/Temporary%20Internet%20Files/OLKD/www.i ndianahistory.org/midwesternroots> . Additional conference information, registration forms and exhibitor information can be found at www.indianahistory.org/midwesternroots <outbind://11/cwood/Local%20Settings/Temporary%20Internet%20Files/OLKD/www.i ndianahistory.org/midwesternroots> or by calling (317) 232-1882. Hotel reservations can be made by calling the Indianapolis Marriott East at (317) 352-1231 or (800) 228-9290. Indicate association with Midwestern Roots 2005 upon making reservations to receive the special $92/night room rate. Room reservations must be made by August 1. The Indiana Genealogical Society promotes genealogical and historical research and education. Annual membership benefits include six issues of the IGS Newsletter; quarterly issues of the Indiana Genealogist with a cumulative index; discounts on IGS publications, workshop and conference registrations; opportunities to volunteer in genealogy related projects; access to free Query submissions, Speaker's Bureau, Researcher's List, Librarian Scholarship, Chapter Grants and special service recognition awards. (www.indgensoc.org) Since 1830, the Indiana Historical Society has been Indiana’s storyteller, connecting people to the past by collecting, preserving, interpreting and disseminating Indiana history. The independent, nonprofit organization also publishes books and periodicals; sponsors teacher workshops; provides youth, adult and family programming; assists local historical groups throughout the state; and maintains one of the world’s largest collection of material on the history of Indiana and the Old Northwest. The Indiana Historical Society is one of the oldest historical societies in the United States, and one of the largest with more than 10,000 members. (www.indianahistory.org <http://www.indianahistory.org/> ) -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.4.1 - Release Date: 6/2/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.4.1 - Release Date: 6/2/2005

    06/05/2005 12:29:17
    1. SCGS 11th Annual White Elephant/Book Sale is Fast Approaching
    2. Hello all. This is to remind everyone of the Sangamon County Genealogical Society's 11th Annual White Elephant/Book Sale which will be held on Saturday 11 June from 9:00 A.M. to 2:00 P.M. at the society office, 2856 South 11th Street, Springfield, Illinois. If you have any history or genealogy books or magazines which you would like to donate towards the sale, please let us know by contacting us at the address and number below. This event will helps the society raise funds for monthly expenses, remain open on Wednesday nights for researching and transcribing of records, as well as obtain more genealogical resources such as microfilm and books for the library. Please contact me at the email address below or by voicemail at: 217-299-0446. We are currently having troubles with our office telephone connection, so please leave your message at the number mentioned above until further notice. Thank you for your continued support of the Sangamon County Genealogical Society. Sincerely, Dan Dixon President Sangamon County Genealogical Society Office Library 2856 South 11th Street (approx. 3 blocks north of Stevenson Drive and approx. 2 1/2 blocks south of Bunn Golf Course) Springfield, Illinois Phone: 217-299-0446 (temporary number) Email: [email protected] Open Wednesday nights 5:30 to 9:00 or by appointment Web Address: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilsangam/scgs/scgs.htm Dan Dixon - President/Editor PO Box 1829 (Mailing Address) Springfield, IL 62705-1829

    05/31/2005 01:42:12
    1. RE: [ILLOGAN] Abstracts of Title
    2. Cheryl Rothwell
    3. There is no requirement that abstracts be kept up to date. An abstract follows the chain of title -- it like insurance on your title but it is not required. There is a record of one sort or another when title to a property changes. If there wasn't the tax bill would still be going to the original owner. We all know the county knows who owns the property and how long they've owned it. I am not sure exactly what that record is, outside of probate, when it stays in the family. Probate may generate the record. I just don't know who generates it or precisely what it is. I assume they are meaning passed by inheritance. If a family member sold or gave it to another family member there would have to be new deeds. Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.17 - Release Date: 5/25/2005

    05/28/2005 11:02:15
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN] Abstracts of Title
    2. Joan Lund
    3. I know I am a little late getting into this discussion but I have searched courthouse records for transfer of ownership in Illinois and I have been told unless the land goes out of the family, it doesn't have to be recorded. There is a parcel of land in a county that original had my ancestor's name on the deed (1830) but nothing after the original entry. I am a direct descendant of the man. The people living on the farm now are descendant's of my ancestor's wife's brother. They say that they have an abstract but they keep in the bank and, of course, I have tried several times to get a copy. Do abstracts have to be kept up-to-date even though there is nothing in the courthouse? Joan Black Lund [email protected] http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~joanlund/

    05/28/2005 05:19:30
    1. RE: [ILLOGAN] Re: ILLOGAN-D Digest V05 #45
    2. Cheryl Rothwell
    3. John Dean, yes maybe. Do you know where that land was and who lives there now? The title company needs that. Then you'd have to order a copy of the abstracts for that land. Ideally I'd start with the land he owned when he died because I would think his will would be in that one. Of course, if you know the current owner you might ask them if they already have the abstract and will make you a copy. Sometimes there is no abstract. Here's a horror story. I grew up on land my family had owned for the last 140 years. At some point in there there was an abstract made but it was before 1910. The property didn't change hands after that date and there was never a need for another one. A few years ago, after my aunt died, my uncle and my cousin took the abstract to the attorney when he was drawing up some papers. He lost it. The title company never had a copy, wasn't in business when the abstract was created. It cannot be replaced. Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.16 - Release Date: 5/24/2005

    05/25/2005 08:22:58
    1. Re: ILLOGAN-D Digest V05 #45
    2. In a message dated 5/24/2005 4:01:02 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > X-Message: #7 > Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 20:17:28 -0500 > From: "Cheryl Rothwell" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Message-Id: <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: [ILLOGAN] Abstracts > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="windows-1250" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > There are people who do what George has described for a living. Having done > some of that I vote for abstracts! <g> > > May I suggest that you consider making a copy of the abstract[s] and > donating the copies to the Logan County G&H to help others in the future. > > One of the interesting things about the abstracts is that there are deeds in > mine that are from the prefire period, ie, from February 15, 1839, to the > courthouse fire on April 15, 1857. > > If you missed George's detailed message the first time through I'll leave it > below. > > Cheryl Rothwell > [email protected]nctygenealogy.org > Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan > Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb > Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al Cheryl: Does this mean that it could be possible to find something more about Logan County's first probate Judge, Michael Mann? There has always been some mystery here, and difficult to pursue because of the court house burning. Michael was certainly a fairly large landowner. JOHN

    05/25/2005 02:04:41
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN] Abstracts
    2. George & Shiela Irwin
    3. One of the charms of this is that you never finish! Expect I have spent a couple of weeks with the folks in the Courthouse over the past 3 years. Especially interesting when there are cousins in the same county with very similar names. The only hope is that the wives have different first names, so you can tell them apart when the property sells.

    05/23/2005 03:52:11
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN] Abstracts
    2. owl
    3. There is a William Irvin in the 1860 census in the George Stockton household and there are Wilkins children buried in Mechanicsburg Cemetery. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "George & Shiela Irwin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN] Abstracts > I checked from 1848 to 1912, or 1918 in one case. Still have some cleaning > up to do, especially with mortgages. Logan County was formed from Sangamon > in 1837, so I could get what I needed in the Lincoln Courthouse, and did not > need to go to Springfield. > > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, send to [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to [email protected] > > >

    05/23/2005 03:19:03
    1. Re: [ILLOGAN] Abstracts
    2. owl
    3. is this 1850 -60 or 1950 - 1960 Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "George & Shiela Irwin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN] Abstracts > Following up on Cheryl Rothwell's notes on title abstracts: > > I have recently been doing some genealogy work using the same data source in > a different way, and thought the procedure might be of interest to some > readers of this site. My objective was to trace land ownership of my > immigrant ancestor and his 7 children during their first 50-60 years in > Illinois, rather than to follow a single piece of property through all > changes in ownership. So I was looking at a cross section over a number of > abstracts -- perhaps an expensive purchase from an abstractor firm. > > You can, of course, do your own work. The records are public, in the County > Recorder of Deeds office. It is just a matter of searching through them and > copying the appropriate documents. It can be an interesting genealogy > exercise, but very time consuming, and you have to travel to the Recorder's > office to use the records. > > The saving grace is that it only has to be done once, if done without error. > That is the benefit of an abstract of title -- you are the second purchaser > of work someone has already paid for -- provided it addresses the question > you are interested in.. > > The technique is the same as in preparing an abstract. You advance or > retrogress in time, stepwise from one transaction to the next. You start > out with a buyer or seller (a grantor or a grantee) in a transaction on a > piece of property. It can be the most recent owner of a property or the > original owner. (You can search either backward or forward). The county > records, likely not computerized until recently, record actual deed > documents in the order they were filed, probably in large volumes in a vault > in the office of the Recorder of Deeds. Particularly in early years, the > date of filing can be well after the date the deed is signed. > > The Recorder creates two supplemental indexes at the time the deed is filed, > and these are the source volumes you use to find deed documents. These > indexes record each deed transaction in two places. The first index is by > the name of the seller, and is called the grantor index. The second index > is by name of the buyer, and is the grantee index. In each, the names are > in order the deeds were filed, and contain a reference to the volume number > and page where the actual deed is located. The indexes also contain the > name of the other party to the transaction, the price, and a brief > description of the property. > > There will be a deed book, a grantor index, and a grantee index for each > time period. The number of years included depends on the volume of deed > transactions handled. Within this time period, the indexes may be subdivided > with different sections for each first letter of the last name, to simplify > searches. But you still have the items within a section in order of date > filed, so searching is necessary. > > The process, once you have a beginning or an ending owner for a targeted > property is to find out when they bought/sold that same property, by looking > through the grantor or grantee indexes. This can be carried on repeatedly, > guided by the question you are answering. > > There is also a filing of mortgage and chattel deeds on a property, which > can be used to trace financing on a piece of property, and when the > financing was paid off (released). These may also be recorded in the grantor > and grantee indexes, but the reference will be to a volume and page in the > mortgage books. > > I have found that a computer spreadsheet is essential to organizing the > notes taken during repeated forays to the Recorder of Deeds office, in order > to create a timeline. As Cheryl Rothwell notes in describing the contents > of a single abstract on a piece of property, the individual documents copied > from the deed book can be quite revealing. It is equally informative in > tracing the history of an immigrant German farmer and his family from 1848 > to the early 1900s. While deeds for purchase of a property are often in > the name of the husband only, sale deeds ordinarily contain name of the > spouse, because she has dower rights that must be handled. Such deeds, along > with estate filings, also may have identification of descendants or > ancestors that you have been seeking. > > Has anyone else on this list worked with this data source? > > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, send to [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to [email protected] > > >

    05/23/2005 02:57:22
    1. RE: [ILLOGAN] Abstracts
    2. Cheryl Rothwell
    3. I'll bet you got to know the courthouse folks pretty well before you were through. Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.14 - Release Date: 5/20/2005

    05/23/2005 02:19:18