Green Ridge? There are some of those but not in Logan County. Where did this person die? Have you tried to find an obituary on him? Joan [email protected] wrote: Thank you Cheryl! I did not think there was and did not see it on your website. I am thinking Richmond Grove maybe. That is where his brother and father are suppose to be buried. Maybe he is too. > According to the USGS there is no Cream Ridge Cemetery in the state of > Illinois. Closest one I could find with Ridge in the name is Grassy Ridge in > McLean County. That would be feasible for Emden. > > Latitude(DEC) Longitude(DEC) Latitude(DMS) Longitude(DMS) Map Name > 40.4067031 -89.002856 402424N > 0890010W Bloomington West > > Cheryl Rothwell > [email protected] > Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan > Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb > Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 6:27 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ILLOGAN] Cream Ridge Cemetery in Logan county? > > I am looking for the location of Cream Ridge Cemetery in Logan County. I > have not heard of it until I saw it listed on a death certificate today. > Charles Campbell from Emden is suppose to be buried there according to his > death certificate. Can anyone help? > > Thank you! > Darin > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, send to > [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest > mode, send to [email protected] > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/36 - Release Date: 7/1/2005 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/36 - Release Date: 7/1/2005 > > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, send to > [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest > mode, send to [email protected] > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, send to [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to [email protected] Joan Black Lund [email protected] http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~joanlund/

That's no doubt the explanation Bill. Richard is correct about death certificates. I sometimes wonder why we think of them as good sources. I have a relative who knows everything and thinks he is in charge of the world. Mr Perfect provided the death certificate information for my grandparents. Needless to say, there are errors. All the information on birth and death certificates is provided by humans in trauma. Mom just gave birth and now they are bugging her for information. A loved one has died and now they are bugging you for information. I don't find it surprising that information is wrong. The person writing it down may hear something you didn't say, be a poor speller, have terrible handwriting. My husband's death certificate has a wrong secondary cause of death. The doctor had four death certificates she was filling out, got interrupted, laid them down, came back and wrote the wrong thing down. It's wrong for posterity. Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/36 - Release Date: 7/1/2005

That is him. Thanks Bill!! Darin > > There was a one room country school in section 5, S.W. 1/4 of Prairie Creek > Twp, which is west of Emden about 6 miles. It was located on the north side > of the country road. Across the road to the South, is a cemetery, known as > Green Hill. There is a Charles Campbell (no dates) buried there, along side > Hassel E. Campbell (born 1894 - died 3/12/1985). It appears the wrong cemetery > name was given on the death certificate. > > Bill Detmers, Genealogist > Logan County Genealogical & Historical Society > > > > > In a message dated 7/1/2005 6:41:28 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > According to the USGS there is no Cream Ridge Cemetery in the state of > Illinois. Closest one I could find with Ridge in the name is Grassy Ridge in > McLean County. That would be feasible for Emden. > > Latitude(DEC) Longitude(DEC) Latitude(DMS) Longitude(DMS) Map > Name > 40.4067031 -89.002856 402424N > 0890010W Bloomington West > > Cheryl Rothwell > [email protected] > Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan > Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb > Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 6:27 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ILLOGAN] Cream Ridge Cemetery in Logan county? > > I am looking for the location of Cream Ridge Cemetery in Logan County. I > have not heard of it until I saw it listed on a death certificate today. > Charles Campbell from Emden is suppose to be buried there according to his > death certificate. Can anyone help? > > Thank you! > Darin > > > > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, send to > [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest > mode, send to [email protected] >

I guess I should have mentioned the name of the one room school was Cream Ridge. In fact, I thought I had until I re-read my response in Richard's mail. Ah yes - the pleasures of speculating and second guessing things from the past. I think the person giving the information may have known the name of the school (Cream Ridge) but not the name of the cemetery (Green Hill), thus stating it was across from Cream Ridge School. Bill

There is a lesson in how to overcome obstacles in genealogical research in this exchange. I saw Cheryl's note about "Cream Hill" and sent her a message about place names in the U.S. and those listed in the U.S. Geological Survey's Geographic Names Index System, which is on line. After sending off that note, I got to thinking about death certificates in general and the types of errors you often find on them. Usually these forms are completed in times of stress and informants are not always clear-headed or clear spoken. For example, the form usually contains a question concerning the maiden name of the deceased. Too often, the person filling out the form is asking the questions on the form of a relative of the deceased and skips down the form quickly. When he gets to the question about the mother, he asks: "Mother's maiden name?" That's why encounter death certificates that have the maiden name of the mother of the INFORMANT on them and not the maiden name of the DECEASED! Another error you encounter is the "sounds like" error. In mulling over what the cemetery's name could have been, I thought of "Green" instead of "Cream" and was about to write Cheryl again to suggest that perhaps there was a cemetery called Green Ridge or some such. Procrastination caused me to miss being thought of as a brilliant analyst by about t-h-a-t much! <g> The lesson, in case my ramblings were too obtuse, is that when information on a document doesn't seem to fit other known facts, brain-storm it about and see if you can think of what was INTENDED instead of what actually written on the paper. And often names like Hill, Valley, Ridge, Grove, Park, etc., are confused with one another in place names. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [ILLOGAN] Cream Ridge Cemetery in Logan county? > That is him. Thanks Bill!! > > Darin > > > > > > There was a one room country school in section 5, S.W. 1/4 of Prairie Creek > > Twp, which is west of Emden about 6 miles. It was located on the north side > > of the country road. Across the road to the South, is a cemetery, known as > > Green Hill. There is a Charles Campbell (no dates) buried there, along side > > Hassel E. Campbell (born 1894 - died 3/12/1985). It appears the wrong cemetery > > name was given on the death certificate. > > > > Bill Detmers, Genealogist > > Logan County Genealogical & Historical Society > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 7/1/2005 6:41:28 P.M. Central Standard Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > According to the USGS there is no Cream Ridge Cemetery in the state of > > Illinois. Closest one I could find with Ridge in the name is Grassy Ridge in > > McLean County. That would be feasible for Emden. > > > > Latitude(DEC) Longitude(DEC) Latitude(DMS) Longitude(DMS) Map > > Name > > 40.4067031 -89.002856 402424N > > 0890010W Bloomington West > > > > Cheryl Rothwell > > [email protected] > > Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan > > Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb > > Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 6:27 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [ILLOGAN] Cream Ridge Cemetery in Logan county? > > > > I am looking for the location of Cream Ridge Cemetery in Logan County. I > > have not heard of it until I saw it listed on a death certificate today. > > Charles Campbell from Emden is suppose to be buried there according to his > > death certificate. Can anyone help? > > > > Thank you! > > Darin > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, send to > > [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest > > mode, send to [email protected] > > > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, send to [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to [email protected] > >

Hello, Would there be anyone that I can contact to see if there are any actual plot owner records in Richmond Grove and Carlye Cemeteries? I have been to the Office at the Old Union Cemetery on Cobblestone and all they have are the same inscription books that are available at the library and Historical Society. I am looking for confirmation that someone is buried in each cemetery. Unfortuately no tombstone exists for one and no death date on the other tombstone. There was still family in the area, although I do not think they had much money. Wilson Campbell is not listed in the inscription books for Richmond Grove. John Theobald is suppose to be buried with his 2nd or third wife in Carlyle. Their death certificates tell me they are there. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Darin

Thank you Cheryl! I did not think there was and did not see it on your website. I am thinking Richmond Grove maybe. That is where his brother and father are suppose to be buried. Maybe he is too. > According to the USGS there is no Cream Ridge Cemetery in the state of > Illinois. Closest one I could find with Ridge in the name is Grassy Ridge in > McLean County. That would be feasible for Emden. > > Latitude(DEC) Longitude(DEC) Latitude(DMS) Longitude(DMS) Map Name > 40.4067031 -89.002856 402424N > 0890010W Bloomington West > > Cheryl Rothwell > [email protected] > Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan > Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb > Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 6:27 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ILLOGAN] Cream Ridge Cemetery in Logan county? > > I am looking for the location of Cream Ridge Cemetery in Logan County. I > have not heard of it until I saw it listed on a death certificate today. > Charles Campbell from Emden is suppose to be buried there according to his > death certificate. Can anyone help? > > Thank you! > Darin > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, send to > [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest > mode, send to [email protected] > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/36 - Release Date: 7/1/2005 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/36 - Release Date: 7/1/2005 > > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, send to > [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest > mode, send to [email protected] >

I am looking for the location of Cream Ridge Cemetery in Logan County. I have not heard of it until I saw it listed on a death certificate today. Charles Campbell from Emden is suppose to be buried there according to his death certificate. Can anyone help? Thank you! Darin

There was a one room country school in section 5, S.W. 1/4 of Prairie Creek Twp, which is west of Emden about 6 miles. It was located on the north side of the country road. Across the road to the South, is a cemetery, known as Green Hill. There is a Charles Campbell (no dates) buried there, along side Hassel E. Campbell (born 1894 - died 3/12/1985). It appears the wrong cemetery name was given on the death certificate. Bill Detmers, Genealogist Logan County Genealogical & Historical Society In a message dated 7/1/2005 6:41:28 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: According to the USGS there is no Cream Ridge Cemetery in the state of Illinois. Closest one I could find with Ridge in the name is Grassy Ridge in McLean County. That would be feasible for Emden. Latitude(DEC) Longitude(DEC) Latitude(DMS) Longitude(DMS) Map Name 40.4067031 -89.002856 402424N 0890010W Bloomington West Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 6:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ILLOGAN] Cream Ridge Cemetery in Logan county? I am looking for the location of Cream Ridge Cemetery in Logan County. I have not heard of it until I saw it listed on a death certificate today. Charles Campbell from Emden is suppose to be buried there according to his death certificate. Can anyone help? Thank you! Darin

According to the USGS there is no Cream Ridge Cemetery in the state of Illinois. Closest one I could find with Ridge in the name is Grassy Ridge in McLean County. That would be feasible for Emden. Latitude(DEC) Longitude(DEC) Latitude(DMS) Longitude(DMS) Map Name 40.4067031 -89.002856 402424N 0890010W Bloomington West Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 6:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ILLOGAN] Cream Ridge Cemetery in Logan county? I am looking for the location of Cream Ridge Cemetery in Logan County. I have not heard of it until I saw it listed on a death certificate today. Charles Campbell from Emden is suppose to be buried there according to his death certificate. Can anyone help? Thank you! Darin ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, send to [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to [email protected] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/36 - Release Date: 7/1/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/36 - Release Date: 7/1/2005

The Logan County G&H already has stacks of history from me. <g> Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.0/27 - Release Date: 6/23/2005

The Logan County HIstorical Society would like to have your family history. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Rothwell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 7:45 PM Subject: RE: [ILLOGAN] Illiopolis History Book Biographies > Are you accepting individual family histories for inclusion or is there a > fee for that? > > Cheryl Rothwell > [email protected] > Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan > Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb > Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Ann Kaylor [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 10:52 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ILLOGAN] Illiopolis History Book Biographies > > Illiopolis, located on the eastern edge of Sangamon County close to the > Macon and Logan County lines, will be observing the 150th Anniversary of > its > founding in October 2006. > As a result a history book is being compiled and biographies are being > accepted from anyone with ancestors or living persons connected with the > village from 1856 to 2006. Please contact me for information as to > procedure, cost, etc. > or go to the Illiopolis Business Assocation site at: > http://www.illiopolis.com/ > and click on 2006 Sesquicentennial > > Mary Ann > [email protected] > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.0/27 - Release Date: 6/23/2005 > > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, send to > [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the > digest mode, send to [email protected] >

Yes, Individual family histories, but for a fee to help defray the expense of printing the book. See the Illiopolis Business Assoc. site for instructions, etc. If any other questions, please email me. http://www.illiopolis.com/ and click on 2006 Sesquicentennial Mary Ann At 07:45 PM 6/25/2005, you wrote: >Are you accepting individual family histories for inclusion or is there a >fee for that? > >Cheryl Rothwell >[email protected] >Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan >Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb >Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mary Ann Kaylor [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 10:52 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [ILLOGAN] Illiopolis History Book Biographies > >Illiopolis, located on the eastern edge of Sangamon County close to the >Macon and Logan County lines, will be observing the 150th Anniversary of its >founding in October 2006. >As a result a history book is being compiled and biographies are being >accepted from anyone with ancestors or living persons connected with the >village from 1856 to 2006. Please contact me for information as to >procedure, cost, etc. >or go to the Illiopolis Business Assocation site at: >http://www.illiopolis.com/ >and click on 2006 Sesquicentennial > >Mary Ann >[email protected] > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.0/27 - Release Date: 6/23/2005 > > > >==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, send to >[email protected] If you are receiving messages in the >digest mode, send to [email protected]

Are you accepting individual family histories for inclusion or is there a fee for that? Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al -----Original Message----- From: Mary Ann Kaylor [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 10:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ILLOGAN] Illiopolis History Book Biographies Illiopolis, located on the eastern edge of Sangamon County close to the Macon and Logan County lines, will be observing the 150th Anniversary of its founding in October 2006. As a result a history book is being compiled and biographies are being accepted from anyone with ancestors or living persons connected with the village from 1856 to 2006. Please contact me for information as to procedure, cost, etc. or go to the Illiopolis Business Assocation site at: http://www.illiopolis.com/ and click on 2006 Sesquicentennial Mary Ann [email protected] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.0/27 - Release Date: 6/23/2005

Illiopolis, located on the eastern edge of Sangamon County close to the Macon and Logan County lines, will be observing the 150th Anniversary of its founding in October 2006. As a result a history book is being compiled and biographies are being accepted from anyone with ancestors or living persons connected with the village from 1856 to 2006. Please contact me for information as to procedure, cost, etc. or go to the Illiopolis Business Assocation site at: http://www.illiopolis.com/ and click on 2006 Sesquicentennial Mary Ann [email protected]

Actually she wrote: Oh dear. I see the original message and I DIDN'T GIVE YOU THE LINK. No wonder everyone is confused. Duh! Good thing you are persistent Mary. http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/copelandchristian.htm -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.10/25 - Release Date: 6/21/2005

In a message dated 6/17/2005 5:30:05 PM Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > www.rootsweb.com/~illogan > Where on the Logan County site is the Copeland Christian Church information. Many Thanks to Donna Copeland for her hard work. Researching, MOOMEY, WORLEY, STOCKTON, COPELAND, BIRKS, Avie New Mexico

Thank you a thousand times over for the heads up - I'm downloading as I type. I can't wait to read it!! Best regards Teressa Lenkey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Rothwell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 12:43 PM Subject: [ILLOGAN] Researching American Genealogy > Quick! Val D. Greenwood's "Researching American Genealogy" is available > free > at: > > http://www.Genealogical.com > > The entire book. You can download it as a .pdf file. It may not stay there > so run right over and download it now. > > Cheryl Rothwell > [email protected] > Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan > Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb > Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.3/15 - Release Date: 6/14/2005 > > > > ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, send to > [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the > digest mode, send to [email protected] > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.9/23 - Release Date: 6/20/2005 > >

I confess, I didn't know Dorothy was out at Vonderlieth... -----Original Message----- From: T. Semple [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 2:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ILLOGAN] Dorothy Bender Obit Thought I would submit this as I'm related to the Benders through a paternal great-great grandmother, Mary Bender Langenbahn. Troy Semple DOROTHY BENDER MOUNT PULASKI -- Dorothy Helen Bender, 91, of Mount Pulaski died Saturday, June 18, 2005, at 7:15 a.m. at Vonderlieth Living Center. Her funeral will be at 10 a.m. Wednesday at Fricke-Calvert-Schrader Funeral Home in Mount Pulaski, with the Rev. Frank Pieper officiating. Visitation will be one hour prior to the service. Burial will be in Mount Pulaski Cemetery. Miss Bender was a retired photographer. She was born Oct. 19, 1913, in Mount Pulaski to John Frederick and Ruth Von Lobberecht Bender. She is survived by one sister, June Rockwell of Mount Pulaski; one sister-in-law, Harriet Bender of Mount Pulaski; and several nieces and nephews. Four brothers and one sister preceded her in death. She was a member of St. John's Lutheran Church in Mount Pulaski, and memorials may be made to the church. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football ==== ILLOGAN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the Logan County List if you are in mail mode, send to [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to [email protected] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.3/15 - Release Date: 6/14/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.3/15 - Release Date: 6/14/2005

Quick! Val D. Greenwood's "Researching American Genealogy" is available free at: http://www.Genealogical.com The entire book. You can download it as a .pdf file. It may not stay there so run right over and download it now. Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.3/15 - Release Date: 6/14/2005