Is there any one with information on the Hemken family from Livingston County? Leone Hemken was owner of land in Pike twp. in 1976 according to a plat book published by "Rockford Map Publishers", Inc. for the Bicentenial. My grandfathers brother, (John Heibult) lived and owned land in Nebraska twp.,Livingston Co. My ggrandfather Klass Heibult in Wustenei Ostfriesland,Germ. had two brothers that married Hemken sisters, Meena Gerdes Hemken, and Frauke Gerdes Hemken. We have an "Ostfriesland Genealogical Soc" at George. Ia, and a member from Witchita, KS by the name of Raymond Hemken is interested in the Hemken family history, too. fh

For Karen and others: Regarding how to obtain marriage records from Livingston Co., IL, write a letter asking for the marriage license, using the information you obtained from the on-line marriage index including the parties' names, marriage date, license number and anything else you can provide. I strongly suggest you ask also for the marriage license application. When you get into the 1880 period, you get applications which provide the parents' names for bride and groom, including both mothers' maiden names, birthplaces, etc. I just did this in February, and unfortunately the person responding said "There is no application with this marriage record." Such wording is very confusing. Does she mean no application is filed WITH the marriage record or license in the same book or file drawer? Or does she mean there is no application filed elsewhere - and I have seen them in the past down in the basement. I wrote a second letter and got the following comment: "As I stated before! There IS NO APPLICATION with this marriage record." I sent $10 with each of my letters and they returned the second $10. The address is: County Clerk's Office, Livingston Co. Courthouse, 112 W. Madison St., Pontiac, IL 61764-1871 U.S.A. I hope you have better luck than I did. I may try to get up there this summer, about 130 miles from home. Linda Kmiecik Girard, IL

Thanks Linda, and all the other helpful people from whom I got private replies. I was told that you can get genealogical copies of the certificates for $3 to $5 but I am not sure what information I will get from them. Maybe the marriage licence application is a good idea as well. You would think there would be an application with every marriage certificate. Can anyone tell me what information is included on the marriage certificate? Thanks - - Karen in BC ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony & Linda Kmiecik <tonky@ctnet.net> To: <ILLIVING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 4:16 PM Subject: Marriage Records > For Karen and others: > > Regarding how to obtain marriage records from Livingston Co., IL, write a > letter asking for the marriage license, using the information you obtained > from the on-line marriage index including the parties' names, marriage date, > license number and anything else you can provide. I strongly suggest you > ask also for the marriage license application. When you get into the 1880 > period, you get applications which provide the parents' names for bride and > groom, including both mothers' maiden names, birthplaces, etc. I just did > this in February, and unfortunately the person responding said "There is no > application with this marriage record." Such wording is very confusing. > Does she mean no application is filed WITH the marriage record or license in > the same book or file drawer? Or does she mean there is no application > filed elsewhere - and I have seen them in the past down in the basement. I > wrote a second letter and got the following comment: "As I stated before! > There IS NO APPLICATION with this marriage record." I sent $10 with each of > my letters and they returned the second $10. The address is: County > Clerk's Office, Livingston Co. Courthouse, 112 W. Madison St., Pontiac, IL > 61764-1871 U.S.A. I hope you have better luck than I did. I may try to get > up there this summer, about 130 miles from home. > > Linda Kmiecik > Girard, IL > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >

I am searching for a book called "Livingston County Historical Society" by J. Paul Yost. I would love to get a copy of it or interlibrary it to me in California. J. Paul Yost is in my family tree - I would appreciate ANY help or suggestions!! Thank you, Lynn in California

Hi listers- I have been trying to find the family of James and Jane (Bentley) Close and have found indications of them going to Livingston Co. from Canada (they were both born in England). Tonight I have found on the Illinois Statewide Marriage Index , three names of some CLOSE girls who were all married the same day (August 24, 1881) in Livingston County. These girls also have the same christian names as James and Jane's children. I found: Sarah J. who married a George WEATHERHEAD, Wilhelmina who married John W. PARKER and Hannah L. who married Peter J. GERHART. Also there was a James Jr. who married Emma A. COSSELMAN on Dec 22, 1875 in Livinston Co. These children are also of about the right age to be marrying at that time. What I would like to know is how to get the marriage information on them to determine if they are in fact children of James and Jane CLOSE. The website gives the names of the counties from which information is available for ordering but Livingston is not one of them. Any help would be truly appreciated. - Karen in BC Canada

Hi, I'm trying to reach a family by the name of REICHES in Milford, IL. Can anybody help me? Thanks Ernestine Wark, NJ

George WILLIAMS, page 150, N Side Vermilion R (with all family residing with him) George WILLIAMS 41 M Farmer 500 Kentucky Elizabeth 35 F Ohio Katharine 14 F Indiana Eliza J. 12 F Indiana Nancy 10 F Indiana Emma 8 F Indiana Mary Ann 5 F Indiana James 3 M Indiana John 1 M Illinois David W. WILLIAMS, page 162, N side Vermilion R (with all family residing with him) David W. William 54 M Farmer 800 Virginia M??d H. Williams 29 M Ohio (Can't make out first name) George W. WILLIAMS, page 164, N side Vermilion R (is this the same family, if not, would like all family members). W. A. Gentery 24 M Doctor Kentucky Kesiah Gentery 18 F Illinois R. H. Bleu 26 M Farmer Ohio Garrett Bleu 14 M Illinois George W. Williams 6 M ???? (Place of Birth is Blank) Oliver H. Gentry 3/12 M Illinois ----- Original Message ----- From: <RSan987272@aol.com> To: <ILLIVING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 5:02 PM Subject: 1850 Census Look up > Anyone having access to the 1850 Livingston Count IL, census > > David W. WILLIAMS, page 162, N side Vermilion R (with all family residing > with him) > > George W. WILLIAMS, page 164, N side Vermilion R (is this the same family, if > not, would like all family members). > > George WILLIAMS, page 150, N Side Vermilion R (with all family residing with > him) > > Thank you, Pat Darby Sanchez > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >

Anyone having access to the 1850 Livingston Count IL, census David W. WILLIAMS, page 162, N side Vermilion R (with all family residing with him) George W. WILLIAMS, page 164, N side Vermilion R (is this the same family, if not, would like all family members). George WILLIAMS, page 150, N Side Vermilion R (with all family residing with him) Thank you, Pat Darby Sanchez

If anyone has an 1860 Livingston County IL Census would you please check to see if there are any families listed with the surname COSAD? I appreciate any help! Sue

Livingston Co., IL marriages 1837-1877 are now on-line, and apparently additional marriages are being typed in. Access this information through the Secretary of State's site: http://www.sos.state.il.us/. Then select "Services", and then "Governmental Records", and then "Search Archives Databases". Scroll down a bit to find the Marriage database name, and go from there. Linda Kmiecik

Regarding marriage records in Livingston County, I was there last year looking for my Metz and King ancestors and my notes indicate records at least back to 1867 (I only took notes on certain families that I was interested in, so it is quite likely that they go back further - my somewhat hazy memory seems to recall that they had records back into the 1840s, but the record got thinner the further you went back). If you go there, they'll let you look at the books yourself. I recall seeing the actual certificates (or good facsimiles). Perhaps worth a trip if you're not too far away. Stan http:://users.erols.com/gpuccini/index.htm

I am wondering if there would be any marraige certs for the 1850's. I am looking for a Susan Defenbaugh and Johnson Bradley I believe they married in Lin=vingston Co. in 1852. They lived around Reading/Ancona area. I would appreciate any and all input. Thank You MJ Bradley HOUSTON _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

For Diane R. and others: I found the following old e-mail in which I sent someone else the questions asked on an application for a marriage license in 1880: Full name of groom, place of residence, occupation, age next birthday in years, color, race (Irish American), place of birth, father's name, mother's maiden name, number of groom's marriage, full name of bride, maiden name, if a widow, place of residence, age next birthday in years, color, race, place of birth, father's name, mother's maiden name, no. of bride's marriage, married at ____________, date, witnesses' signatures (Edward Brown and Kate Waters), and then a certification at the bottom to be signed by the priest, giving marriage date and place. All wonderful information. Actually at the top is "Illinois State Board of Health. Return of a Marriage to County Clerk." The instructions at the top say it should be filled in carefully and attached to and returned with the Marriage License. "This Return does not take the place of the Certificate which comes attached to the License, but is IN ADDITION THERETO."

With reference to Linda Kmiecik's message on today's list, by coincidence I had just requested a copy of a marriage license issued in 1882 in Livingston County, IL. I also requested that if an application for this license was on file, to also send a copy of it. I have found that it is worthwhile to ask for both of these documents if available. This is my first request in Illinois, but I have found in Nebraska for instance that the marriage certificate on file in the 1880's in one county I am researching gave the names of both sets of parents and included the maiden names of both mothers. On an 1883 certificate I requested in Alabama there was a copy of a note handwritten by the bride's father giving his permission for the wedding. This was my first clue to her father's given name and also indicated that she was quite young, giving me an idea of the date of her birth. Just tho't I'd pass this on as every little clue helps. Rose Adams

For Diane: I have a copy of the 1876 marriage license of my great-grandfather's brother. It gives his name, residence, and age, as well as his bride's name, residence and age. At the bottom of the form is the "return", a short section in which the priest (or minister, justice of the peace, etc.) certified that on the 30th day of November 1876 he did join in marriage these two people. However, even more important is their "Application for Marriage License" which I also have. In this case, it gives no additional information - just name, residence, and age, plus swearing that each is single and unmarried. However, I have seen other Applications for Marriage License, in which such wonderful information appears as the groom's and bride's mothers' maiden names. One of these was an 1880 Livingston Co., IL Application, and another was in the 1880s or 1890s in a different county in Illinois. I would think for an 1885 marriage, you would also get this additional information. The Applications are indeed on file in Livingston Co., IL, and I believe they are down in the courthouse basement. I was allowed down there one time, by myself, and nearly went crazy looking in ledgers, drawers of metal file cabinets, etc. I'm sure the girl who told me to go on downstairs got in lots of trouble when I came back upstairs and met the older woman who was in charge. A letter to the County Clerk, Livingston County Courthouse, Pontiac, Illinois (I do not know the zip code), enclosing perhaps $10.00 U.S. and requesting these copies should bring a response, if not the copies, then at least a statement of what their cost would be. Linda K.

Researching from England, need help in looking for FELLERS in Wing, and Forrest, Livingstone Co, IL from mid 1800's. BURGESS in Piatt IL in mid 1800's also MUSSELMAN. I have GEORGE WASHINGTON BURGESS married ELLEN MUSSLEMAN in Piatt IL in Jan 1885. There is a wedding cert number for this marriage which I have not got at the moment, can anyone out there tell me what sort of information I can expect to find on it at that date. Many thanks in advance......... Diane Rayburn...... from across the pond

If someone out there has a copy of the book on the Darnall, Spence, Steers, etc., families, by Erma D. Stuckey (deceased), would you please contact me privately? Thank you, Robert ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

I am new on the list and was wondering if anyone is connected to the above family. This family originally came from Ontario, Canada, about 1864. Jane and James were married in Ontario in 1844. Most of the children were born in Ontario except for two. James and Jane were born in Yorkshire, England. There is information on this family on the family search site under the IGI but they are listed as being married in Broughton, Livington, Illinois, and all their children born there. Also Jane is listed as being born in Ilinois. This is not correct. The information has been submitted under a batch number beginning with F which is a patron submitted form. If anyone is researching this family and has information on their descendents, I would like to hear from them and exchange information. - Karen in BC Canada

Looking for MINCHIN & DANN Charlotte MINCHIN m. Joseph DAN/DANN 1 Dec. 1856 in Cincinnati OH. Joseph's family lived in Pontiac area and have much of that info already...just can't find anything else on Joseph and Charlotte. Jo Ellen in MI

Good Evening, Are there any churches in the area of Streator? Among other cities, this would include: Dwight, Cornell, Wenona, Grand Ridge? The Streator Times Press published a short history of the churches in their readership area in the 1950's. We have copies of the articles at the museum and I could make a copy for you. Joanie Robert L Webb wrote: > > Hi! this is my first post to this list. I am a church > historian/minister and am writing a book on churches in Illinois of our > denomination, regular or predestinarian baptist. There was a church, > which existed from 1832 until 1897, called Bethel, at Indian Grove (in > early minutes referred to as Bethel on Mackinaw Creek). I have compiled > a partial list of members names but it is very limited without the actual > church records. The church was located about 14 miles east of Lexington, > or about 6 miles south of Fairbury. I have not yet obtained a deed for > the property to identify its exact location, but would like to do so. I > know nothing yet about the church building, but assume there was probably > a rather small frame building here (maybe a log building before that). > I realize it is not likely anyone will be able to help me, but > decided to ask anyway. The family names I know about who were members > included Darnell, Hess, Richardson, Steers, Spence, Scates, Cunningham, > Gibson, Phillips, Phalmer and Lucas, among others. > Robert > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.