Comings and Goings Mr. and Mrs. C. D. Hart have gone to Cornell to visit relatives Mrs. Dick Blue of Cornell was shopping in this city today. J. H. Brown of Tenth street went to Pontiac today on business. Miss Ethel Haldeman left this afternoon for Morris to visit friends for a few days. Miss Ida Forgerson of Millington is the guest of Mary Johnson on East Main street. J. Bentner of Cornell, who has been visiting James Cummings, returned home today. George Riss went to Kankakee this morning where he will visit relatives for a few days. Miss Ada Meils of Flanagan is visiting Mr. and Mrs. G. C. Daniels at 405 South Park Street. ============================== Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

...from Streator Daily Times Press Comings and Goings August 15, 1911 Miss Leah Bertiaux who has been visiting her cousin, Mrs. Clarence Strack in Sterling has returned to her home in this city. Saturday August 19, 1911 Mrs. John Sneyd returned to her home in Odell today after attending the Nelson Plumb funeral. Does anyone know if Mrs. Sneyd was related to the Plumb family or just a good friend? Joanie

I'm brand new to this list but I just couldn't help sharing this poem. I hope you all enjoy it. GRANDMA AND THE FAMILY TREE: There's been a change in Grandma; we've noticed her of late, She's always reading history or jotting down some date. She's tracking back the family; we'll all have pedigrees. Oh, Grandma's got a hobby; she's climbing Family Trees. Poor Grandpa does the cooking now, or so he states, That worst of all, he has to wash the cups and dinner plates. Grandma can't be bothered; she's busy as a bee Compiling genealogy -- for the Family Tree. She has no time to baby-sit; the curtains are a fright, No buttons left on Granddad's shirt, the flowerbed's a sight. She's given up her club work, the serials on TV, The only thing she does nowadays is climb the Family Tree. She goes down to the court house and studies ancient lore, We know more about our forebears than we ever knew before. The books are old and dusty; they make poor Grandma sneeze, A minor irritation when you're climbing Family Trees. The mail is all for Grandma, it comes from near and far, Last week she got the proof she needs to join the DAR. A worth while avocation, to that we all agree, A monumental project, to climb the Family Tree. Now some folks came from Scotland and some from Galway Bay, Some were French as pastry, some German, all the way. Some went on west to stake their claim, some stayed near by the sea. Grandma hopes to find them all as she climbs the Family Tree. She wanders through the graveyard in search of date or name, The rich, the poor, the in-between, all sleeping there the same. She pauses now and then to rest, fanned by a gentle breeze That blows above the Fathers of all our Family Trees. There were pioneers and patriots mixed in our kith and kin Who blazed the paths of wilderness and fought through thick and . thin, But none more staunch than Grandma, whose eyes light up with glee Each time she finds a missing branch for the Family Tree. Their skills were wide and varied, from carpenter to cook And one (Alas!) the record shows was hopelessly a crook. Blacksmith, weaver, farmer, judge, some tutored for a fee, Long lost in time, now all recorded on the Family Tree. To some it's just a hobby; to Grandma it's much more, She knows the joys and heartaches of those who went before. They loved, they lost, they laughed, and they wept, and now lay forever still, But they will not, be forgotten as long, as Grandma climbs the family tree. Author; Unknown Dorothy Nanninga Sewell dsewell@alaska.net Eagle River, Alaska Ostfriesland Ancestors http://www.alaska.net/~dsewell

I just discovered that my gg-grandparents, Thomas E. McMANIGELL and Mary E. BENNETT, were married on 21 Oct 1886 in Livingston Co, IL. They popped up in the Illinois statewide marriage database which must have recently added Livingston Co. data as this marriage hadn't shown up in previous searches. Also, recently, I got a marriage record of Thomas' sister who married in Chicago in 1885 and indicated her mother, Sarah (CURRY) McMANIGELL, lived in Strawn, IL. Also, Thomas' twin brother Charles S. McMANIGELL's future wife, Ida B. HODGES, shows up on the 1880 census in the Strawn area ... they married in 1888 in Phelps Co, NE. I don't know why the McMANIGELL family members show up in Strawn in the mid-1880s. They came from the Neoga area in Cumberland Co, IL. The railroad may have had something to do with it. The father of the family abandoned the family around 1882 and went to Colorado. I hope there is a marriage license application for Thomas and Mary showing Mary's parents. This is the first official record of any kind that I've uncovered for Mary. Thomas and Mary and two of their children seem to have died in the Cerro Gordo area in the mid-1890s leaving only my g-grandfather, Fern Elmo McMANIGELL. Thomas was born in 1864, the son of John and Sarah (CURRY) McMANIGELL. If anyone has any info. on the McMANIGELLs or BENNETTs or on the Strawn area, I would be interested in hearing from you. The McMANIGELLs were an Irish Catholic family and may have attended St. Rose Catholic Church in Strawn. Is this church still in existence? I haven't been able to find a phone number or address. Thanks, Mike _________________________________________________ Michael L. Hebert, Fort Worth, TX Email: mhebert.gen@home.com or genheb@yahoo.com http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mhebert/

Another site on the DVA research sent to Kosciusko County, IN by Linda. (with her permission to forward) Shirl From: "Linda Allred Cooper" <lacooper@mindspring.com> To: <INKOSCIU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [INKOSCIU] Molecular Genealogy You can find links to articles about the DNA research at http://www.allredfamily.org/new_page_14.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "unicorn" <unicorn@ezworks.net> To: <INKOSCIU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 6:35 AM Subject: [INKOSCIU] Molecular Genealogy > Received this from another list in DE and thought it would be of interest to other lists. > Shirl > > Hello, all. > Just a reminder of the date for Brigham Young University's upcoming DNA > sample collection nearest to the Delaware area, for those of you wishing to > participate. BYU staff will be taking samples in Philadelphia on Saturday, > April 28th. > For those wanting more information, please visit the website listed in > the > article below. > (Sorry, I don't have an article from the Philadelphia or Delaware area. > The article below is from January and from our local paper here in St. > Petersburg, FL). The BYU folks were here back in February, whereupon > myself and another list cousin donated our DNA. > Thanks, > John > P.S. Do not send e-mail to the Joel Myres mentioned in the article > below. > The website mentions that he passed away in March. If you are interested > in contacting the staff, please use the "Contact Us" link on their website. > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > Genetics study open to genealogy buffs > By DONNA MURRAY ALLEN > ? St. Petersburg Times, published January 13, 2001 > If you have free time, spare blood and a four-generation pedigree chart, > Ugo Perego wants to meet you. A Brigham Young University student, Perego > has the job of helping microbiology professor Scott Woodward find 100,000 > participants for a three-year study that merges genetics with genealogy. > Woodward, the researcher who discovered a genetic marker that led to the > discovery of the gene for cystic fibrosis, heads up BYU's Molecular > Genealogy Research Group. Just as it was possible to genetically link > Thomas Jefferson to Sally Hemmings' last child, DNA can be used to relate > individuals to their immediate families, ancestors, tribal groups and even > entire populations. The MGRG plans to use markers to reconstruct worldwide > family trees. > The BYU group comes to Florida in February. Project representatives will be > on hand to provide an overview, answer questions and collect samples at > Mormon Family History Centers in Largo, Port Charlotte and Sarasota. In > Largo, the event takes place at 9 a.m. on Feb. 10. Contact Charles > Grandmaison at chasgene@aol.com for details. For more calendar information, > contact your local FHC or log on to <http://molecular-genealogy.byu.edu>. > You must be 18 to participate. > Woodward launched the study last March. He wants to compile a database of > 100,000 blood samples from at least 500 worldwide populations in the next > three to five years. Each sample will be correlated with a four-generation > family history that includes the date and place of birth for each ancestor. > The results will be computerized. > "One hundred thousand samples will provide us with an understanding of the > genetic make-up of the world," Prego said in a phone interview from his > Brigham Young office in Provo, Utah. "We'll also know what markers from > specific areas of the world look like. In the future, individuals will > benefit from this database to trace their ancestors, because they will be > able to compare their DNA to those in the database. Since each individual > carries within them a unique record of who they are and how they are > related to everyone else, it will be possible to overcome such genealogical > obstacles as illegitimacy, adoption and missing records to prove his or her > lineage. For American Indians and African-Americans, among others, such > data would be invaluable." As the database grows, more genealogical > mysteries will be solved. > The MGRG is retracing the movement of genes in time and space, Perego said. > This data will help confirm migration patterns. For centuries, people who > shared similar DNA tended to remain in a small geographical area. Times > have changed. Perego used some of my ancestors as an example. As far back > as 1800, some of my kin lived in what is now known as Slovakia. Thus, the > DNA of my early Slovak relatives is the same DNA strain found in 1890 in > Pennsylvania where my great-grandfather settled. Now it can be found in > Florida -- in me. In other words, that original Slovak DNA could be found > just about anywhere these days. > But the study isn't getting quite that personal yet. To protect the privacy > of those participating in the study, names won't be released or kept in the > database. DNA samples are assigned identification numbers when the data is > collected to ensure confidentiality. Anyone interested in participating in > the study to solve a personal genealogical situation must submit a special > release form. E-mail Joel Myres at joel_myres@byu.edu to obtain a copy of > that form. > Why is BYU sponsoring this project? "Every Latter-Day Saint (Mormon) is > required to compile a four-generation pedigree chart," Perego said. > "Genealogy is very important in order to understand who we are and how we > are related to others. We treat our kin differently than we treat anyone > else." > * * * > > > ==== DEKENT Mailing List ==== > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the DEKENT list, use > DEKENT-l-request@rootsweb.com. > If your Ancestors Migrated to or through Delaware - register them on the Delaware > Migration Page http://demigration.homestead.com/Delaware.html > Delaware-Cemeteries page http://Delaware_Cemeteries.homestead.com/index.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > > > > ==== INKOSCIU Mailing List ==== > Kosciusko Co, IN USGenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~inkosciu/ > ==== INKOSCIU Mailing List ==== Kosciusko Co, IN USGenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~inkosciu/

Received this from another list in DE and thought it would be of interest to other lists. Shirl Hello, all. Just a reminder of the date for Brigham Young University's upcoming DNA sample collection nearest to the Delaware area, for those of you wishing to participate. BYU staff will be taking samples in Philadelphia on Saturday, April 28th. For those wanting more information, please visit the website listed in the article below. (Sorry, I don't have an article from the Philadelphia or Delaware area. The article below is from January and from our local paper here in St. Petersburg, FL). The BYU folks were here back in February, whereupon myself and another list cousin donated our DNA. Thanks, John P.S. Do not send e-mail to the Joel Myres mentioned in the article below. The website mentions that he passed away in March. If you are interested in contacting the staff, please use the "Contact Us" link on their website. ----------------------------------------------------------- Genetics study open to genealogy buffs By DONNA MURRAY ALLEN ? St. Petersburg Times, published January 13, 2001 If you have free time, spare blood and a four-generation pedigree chart, Ugo Perego wants to meet you. A Brigham Young University student, Perego has the job of helping microbiology professor Scott Woodward find 100,000 participants for a three-year study that merges genetics with genealogy. Woodward, the researcher who discovered a genetic marker that led to the discovery of the gene for cystic fibrosis, heads up BYU's Molecular Genealogy Research Group. Just as it was possible to genetically link Thomas Jefferson to Sally Hemmings' last child, DNA can be used to relate individuals to their immediate families, ancestors, tribal groups and even entire populations. The MGRG plans to use markers to reconstruct worldwide family trees. The BYU group comes to Florida in February. Project representatives will be on hand to provide an overview, answer questions and collect samples at Mormon Family History Centers in Largo, Port Charlotte and Sarasota. In Largo, the event takes place at 9 a.m. on Feb. 10. Contact Charles Grandmaison at chasgene@aol.com for details. For more calendar information, contact your local FHC or log on to <http://molecular-genealogy.byu.edu>. You must be 18 to participate. Woodward launched the study last March. He wants to compile a database of 100,000 blood samples from at least 500 worldwide populations in the next three to five years. Each sample will be correlated with a four-generation family history that includes the date and place of birth for each ancestor. The results will be computerized. "One hundred thousand samples will provide us with an understanding of the genetic make-up of the world," Prego said in a phone interview from his Brigham Young office in Provo, Utah. "We'll also know what markers from specific areas of the world look like. In the future, individuals will benefit from this database to trace their ancestors, because they will be able to compare their DNA to those in the database. Since each individual carries within them a unique record of who they are and how they are related to everyone else, it will be possible to overcome such genealogical obstacles as illegitimacy, adoption and missing records to prove his or her lineage. For American Indians and African-Americans, among others, such data would be invaluable." As the database grows, more genealogical mysteries will be solved. The MGRG is retracing the movement of genes in time and space, Perego said. This data will help confirm migration patterns. For centuries, people who shared similar DNA tended to remain in a small geographical area. Times have changed. Perego used some of my ancestors as an example. As far back as 1800, some of my kin lived in what is now known as Slovakia. Thus, the DNA of my early Slovak relatives is the same DNA strain found in 1890 in Pennsylvania where my great-grandfather settled. Now it can be found in Florida -- in me. In other words, that original Slovak DNA could be found just about anywhere these days. But the study isn't getting quite that personal yet. To protect the privacy of those participating in the study, names won't be released or kept in the database. DNA samples are assigned identification numbers when the data is collected to ensure confidentiality. Anyone interested in participating in the study to solve a personal genealogical situation must submit a special release form. E-mail Joel Myres at joel_myres@byu.edu to obtain a copy of that form. Why is BYU sponsoring this project? "Every Latter-Day Saint (Mormon) is required to compile a four-generation pedigree chart," Perego said. "Genealogy is very important in order to understand who we are and how we are related to others. We treat our kin differently than we treat anyone else." * * * ==== DEKENT Mailing List ==== If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the DEKENT list, use DEKENT-l-request@rootsweb.com. If your Ancestors Migrated to or through Delaware - register them on the Delaware Migration Page http://demigration.homestead.com/Delaware.html Delaware-Cemeteries page http://Delaware_Cemeteries.homestead.com/index.html To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett ============================== Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate your heritage! http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

In answer to John's query concerning A/C Cemetery in Fairbury, IL, he used the initials A/C to mean Apostolic Christian Cemetery. There are many members of the Apostolic Christian Church in the central part of IL and elsewhere. Susan Ulfers Campbell in GA

I spoke to Verda a couple weeks ago about people making requests. She said it is easier for her to have a letter than a phone call. It's hard for her to hear clearly on the phone but with a letter in hand she has a better chance to get the names right. -----Original Message----- From: Missfiz@aol.com <Missfiz@aol.com> To: ILLIVING-L@rootsweb.com <ILLIVING-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, April 16, 2001 9:45 AM Subject: Fairbury Cemetery Hi, John: The Fairbury Cemetery is named Graceland Cemetery. This cemetery has A/C's buried in it as well as the small A/C Cemetery adjoining Graceland Cemetery. (Only a gravel lane and shrubbery divide it from the rest of the cemetery.) I know Verda Gerwick of Lexington Gen. Society has walked and recorded all gravestones in Graceland Cemetery and I would imagine that she has done the A/C Cemetery as well. However, I have heard she is slow answering letters; she is in her 80's and may be having a bout of ill health. It might be worth a telephone call to her rather than a letter. Her address is on the Livingston Co., IL usgenweb page. There are two rural A/C cemeteries, one northeast of Fairbury and one southeast of Fairbury also. Susan Ulfers Campbell in GA

Could someone explain what an A/C is? It's late, but for the life of me, I cannot think of what this means. Linda

Hi, John: The Fairbury Cemetery is named Graceland Cemetery. This cemetery has A/C's buried in it as well as the small A/C Cemetery adjoining Graceland Cemetery. (Only a gravel lane and shrubbery divide it from the rest of the cemetery.) I know Verda Gerwick of Lexington Gen. Society has walked and recorded all gravestones in Graceland Cemetery and I would imagine that she has done the A/C Cemetery as well. However, I have heard she is slow answering letters; she is in her 80's and may be having a bout of ill health. It might be worth a telephone call to her rather than a letter. Her address is on the Livingston Co., IL usgenweb page. There are two rural A/C cemeteries, one northeast of Fairbury and one southeast of Fairbury also. Susan Ulfers Campbell in GA

Does anyone know if there is a listing of the burials in the Fairbury A/C Cemetery or who has records and what their address (hopefully email) is? I have several relatives buried there. John E Fischer Cincinnati OH

Lokking for information on a Henry,Hartman/Hartmann,Livingston Co. Ill.1844-1850,came from Switzerland.

Pembrook Information needed Livingston County,about 1844-1864

Looking for Information on C.B.Brown about 1855,Livingston County.

Has anyone had the same problem as me when using the IL marriage index? I had made note of a marriage in IL off the index for a name I wasn't sure was mine at the time. Some weeks later I decided to go back and check the database, it came up no data which puzzled me as I had even got the reference numbers written down. I tried three or four times more, each time it told me no data. I thought I was going senile by then. thought I'd maybe forgotten where I got the details from. The following week I decided to try again as I knew by then that this was family. It came up with the details of the marriage perfectly. I have since tried with the actual marriage cert obtained with details from the index in front of me, and it came up no data. Is anybody else finding this problem? or if it comes up no data do they not bother to try again? I would advise them to keep at it, I got two hits out of maybe ten or twelve tries.

Is anyone in Livingston County researching MILLER/MUELLER/MULLER family names? My ggrandfather John MILLER b ?, d 1865 near Roanoke IL buried in an unmarked grave in Roanoke Apostolic Christian Cemetery. He had at least 4 brothers. His brother Michael had sons John (Gridley) Ben (Fairbury) and Sam (Fairbury.) I'm looking for any information on this family or descendants - will share what I have. Happy Hunting John E Fischer Cincinnati OH fischerj@one.net

You were very lucky, my grandparents were married in 1891, and their application was not filled out. Oh well, maybe, the clerk was in a hurry on that day in 1891. Joanie Tony & Linda Kmiecik wrote: > > For Joan and others: Yes, there were marriage applications in 1876. I > guess that sentence in my prior e-mail wasn't clear. I have in my hands the > 1876 marriage application for a couple in Livingston Co., IL. As I > remember, I located this when I stopped at the courthouse on my way to a > genealogy seminar near Springfield, IL. What I was seeking were some old > tax books I had seen in a basement room on a prior trip. They were by year > and by township. (As I understand it, the basement is in two sections, and > you cannot go from one side to the other, but must come upstairs and access > the "other" part of the basement from some office on that other side. It > was lunch time, and the young girl at the counter in the County Clerk's > office told me to go on downstairs. I wish I had taken notes of what I saw > at the time, but there were lots of ledger type books on shelving and > several file cabinets absolutely crammed with documents. Somewhere, in one > of these, I found this 1876 marriage application. When I came upstairs with > several items to be copied, an older woman was behind the counter and almost > had a coronary that I had been down there, and unsupervised. I never did > find the tax records, and no one in the collector or assessor's office knew > what I was talking about. > > Linda K. > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

For Joan and others: Yes, there were marriage applications in 1876. I guess that sentence in my prior e-mail wasn't clear. I have in my hands the 1876 marriage application for a couple in Livingston Co., IL. As I remember, I located this when I stopped at the courthouse on my way to a genealogy seminar near Springfield, IL. What I was seeking were some old tax books I had seen in a basement room on a prior trip. They were by year and by township. (As I understand it, the basement is in two sections, and you cannot go from one side to the other, but must come upstairs and access the "other" part of the basement from some office on that other side. It was lunch time, and the young girl at the counter in the County Clerk's office told me to go on downstairs. I wish I had taken notes of what I saw at the time, but there were lots of ledger type books on shelving and several file cabinets absolutely crammed with documents. Somewhere, in one of these, I found this 1876 marriage application. When I came upstairs with several items to be copied, an older woman was behind the counter and almost had a coronary that I had been down there, and unsupervised. I never did find the tax records, and no one in the collector or assessor's office knew what I was talking about. Linda K.

What Application?? Did you ask the clerk for an explanation? But, in regard to my first question, are you sure "applications" were filed in 1876? Joanie Tony & Linda Kmiecik wrote: > > I noted with interest the posting from Karen in BC Canada regarding marriage applications she requested but did not receive. I am looking at an 1876 marriage application, and believe I also have one from 1880. As best I can remember, these applications ARE in the basement under the County Clerk's office. After finding a long sought marriage in the Secretary of State's listings which finally contain some Livingston Co. marriages, in February I requested that marriage license and application and did not receive the application. I wrote a second time and received this response: "As I stated before! There IS NO APPLICATION with this marriage record." This wording is not clear. Does this person mean the application is not WITH the license, or that the application is not in their files at all? I believe it is the former, and this person does not want to go down to the basement to get it. That may even be the County Clerk's policy. I don't know if the upcoming electio! n ! > April 3 includes the office of County Clerk, Livingston Co., but we can hope. After years of dealing with an unfriendly County Clerk's office here in Macoupin Co., IL, we not only have wonderful cooperation in getting record copies, but the County just bought the old library in the county seat and we are in the process of moving records from the courthouse dome and basement to the library, where we will ready them for filming. > > Linda K. > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

I noted with interest the posting from Karen in BC Canada regarding marriage applications she requested but did not receive. I am looking at an 1876 marriage application, and believe I also have one from 1880. As best I can remember, these applications ARE in the basement under the County Clerk's office. After finding a long sought marriage in the Secretary of State's listings which finally contain some Livingston Co. marriages, in February I requested that marriage license and application and did not receive the application. I wrote a second time and received this response: "As I stated before! There IS NO APPLICATION with this marriage record." This wording is not clear. Does this person mean the application is not WITH the license, or that the application is not in their files at all? I believe it is the former, and this person does not want to go down to the basement to get it. That may even be the County Clerk's policy. I don't know if the upcoming election ! April 3 includes the office of County Clerk, Livingston Co., but we can hope. After years of dealing with an unfriendly County Clerk's office here in Macoupin Co., IL, we not only have wonderful cooperation in getting record copies, but the County just bought the old library in the county seat and we are in the process of moving records from the courthouse dome and basement to the library, where we will ready them for filming. Linda K.