-----Original Message----- From: Jaynelle Miller [mailto:jaynee23@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 10:59 AM To: ILLIVING-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILLIVING] Wing, IL I am new to the list, and was wondering if anyone had much information on Wing, IL. It is a small town, (if I remember correctly, no more than 50 people) and I can't even tell you what other towns it's near. When I was young, I went with my family to the cemetery there and saw my ggggrandfather's grave. His name is William Bargmann b-1846 d-1921, married Elizabeth ?? b-1853 d-1922. I think there are a few other Bargmann's buried there. I guess I was just wondering if anyone had information on the Bargmann family and the town of Wing. Thank you, Jaynelle Bargmann Miller d/o Mark Richard Bargmann s/o Lloyd Stephen Bargmann s/o Harvey W. Bargmann s/o Caspar C. Bargmann s/o William Bargmann ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Wing is between Forrest and Saunemin in Central Illinois. I'm from Forrest originally and went to school with quite a few people from Wing as they went to Forrest-Strawn-Wing high school. There was one Bargmann in my class, his name was Harvard. Don't remember anything about his family. I can't give you much help as I have lived in California for the past 25 years. If you contact the county clerk in Pontiac they probably have records of all the Bargmanns that lived in the area. Wish I could be of more help to you. Dayle Cottingham

Jaynelle, the following is taken from Historical Encyclopedia of Illinois and History of Livingston County Volume II (Munsell Publishing Company Publishers 1909). Village of Wing "Wing is located on the Wabash road, midway between Forrest and Saunemin. It was laid out in May, 1880, in the southwest quarter of section 10, on the land owned by Elijah Filley and Jacob Keller. The depot was erected on FIlley's land. The sum of $1,000 was raised by subscription among the farmers and land owners of the township, which upon completion of the station house and 1,500 feet of sidetrack, was paid by the railroad company. The village has a population of about 200. It has three general stores, two blacksmith shops, lumber yard, and three grain elevators. It is one of the best grain points in the county. A two-room brick school house was erected several years ago. Two churches are located here: Methodist and United Brethren. Both edifices are frame structures. James Gibb is the present postmaster." This just for a little bit of info for you. Marilyn Krug

I am new to the list, and was wondering if anyone had much information on Wing, IL. It is a small town, (if I remember correctly, no more than 50 people) and I can't even tell you what other towns it's near. When I was young, I went with my family to the cemetery there and saw my ggggrandfather's grave. His name is William Bargmann b-1846 d-1921, married Elizabeth ?? b-1853 d-1922. I think there are a few other Bargmann's buried there. I guess I was just wondering if anyone had information on the Bargmann family and the town of Wing. Thank you, Jaynelle Bargmann Miller d/o Mark Richard Bargmann s/o Lloyd Stephen Bargmann s/o Harvey W. Bargmann s/o Caspar C. Bargmann s/o William Bargmann ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hi, Jaynelle: Wing is barely a village today, but there is still a grain elevator there. If you will write to the Lexington Genealogical Society, they have walked and recorded the graves of cemeteries of Livingston Co. IL. The cemetery for Wing is the Pleasant Ridge Twp. Cemetery, southeast of Wing. The Lex. Gen. Society is run on pure grit by Verda Gerwick, her volunteers and donations. The address is Lexington Genealogical Society, The Fort, Main Street, Lexington, IL 61753. If I may be of any more help, please contact me. I am familiar with southeast and south central Livingston Co. Susan Ulfers Campbell Missfiz@aol.com

My ancestor, James BELL was in Pike Twp , Livingston Co. in the 1880 census. Does anyone on the list have easy access to this census? I was interested in getting the information from the census, esp. where James and Catherines parents were born. Thanks, Mr. Tracy J. Brown Tracy.Brown@eastmansoftware.com Weekends: TJBrownNH@juno.com

Hello Tami Try writing the following address: The Fort 318 W. Main Street Lexington, Illinois 01753 This is where I got the census for Cullom. Happy Hunting Carmel

If you are near a regional National Archives office (you can look up the regional locations online at the National archives site), they have this info on microfilm. -----Original Message----- From: THETAMIS@aol.com <THETAMIS@aol.com> To: ILLIVING-L@rootsweb.com <ILLIVING-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 10:54 PM Subject: [ILLIVING] Census? >Does any kind soul on the list have access or better yet a copy of the >Livingston Co., census for 1870 or 1880? I am looking for info on the family >of Ephraim Lynn VANCE and his wife Mary Matilda TURNBULL/TURMBULL who were >married in Chatsworth in 1876 and had their first child Mary Agnes in 1877 in >Chatsworth. Any help would be most appreciated. Thank you most kindly! > >Tami >

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Does any kind soul on the list have access or better yet a copy of the Livingston Co., census for 1870 or 1880? I am looking for info on the family of Ephraim Lynn VANCE and his wife Mary Matilda TURNBULL/TURMBULL who were married in Chatsworth in 1876 and had their first child Mary Agnes in 1877 in Chatsworth. Any help would be most appreciated. Thank you most kindly! Tami

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Hello Listers, I'm looking for my Grandfathers Birth Records. His name is Charles John Moeller, born Aug 26, 1907 or 1906 in Dwight, IL. I'm looking for the name of his parents. would appreciate a look up from someone that has the information. Thanks in advance

Hello all! I know what you mean about some genealogy books being badly printed. I have never ordered from Higginson Book Co but have noticed that ( in one particular county I'm familiar with) Higginson's county history book is about $15 more expensive than the same history ordered from the county genealogical society. I purchased several other genealogy records' books from a county genealogical society and after about a year of use, the ink is rubbing off of the pages I've referred to! It is as if they made copies on a zerox machine and the ink / developer was really cheap. (By the way, this was NOT Livingston County.) I won't mention the county as I don't want to cause an uproar or make enemies there----they have been most helpful otherwise. Should I tell them???? I'm surprised that a regular publishing company doesn't use REAL ink and a printing press. Some books that are reprints of old county histories must also just be zeroxed from the original? Something I hadn't previously thought about. Joanne in California --------------- -----Original Message----- From: Amy Robbins-Tjaden <atjaden@mindspring.com> To: ILLIVING-L@rootsweb.com <ILLIVING-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, March 27, 2000 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [ILLIVING] History of Livingston County >A note about Higginson Book Co from someone who has had only one dealing >with them... > >I ordered The History of Woodford County from them and was very disappointed >in the reprint that I got. First, it took seemingly forever (over three >months) to get the book from them after I sent them my check. Second, some >of the pages of the book have print that it so light it is barely readable. > >To be fair, I wrote to them after I received my book and they said I could >send it back to them and get my money back. I responded by saying that I >would like to return the book if they could send me a book that was totally >readable (with respect to the darkness/lightness of the print) and they said >that they couldn't guarantee it. Rather than lose possible clues about my >ancestors, as well as a valuable resource, I kept the book. SNIP SNIP

A note about Higginson Book Co from someone who has had only one dealing with them... I ordered The History of Woodford County from them and was very disappointed in the reprint that I got. First, it took seemingly forever (over three months) to get the book from them after I sent them my check. Second, some of the pages of the book have print that it so light it is barely readable. To be fair, I wrote to them after I received my book and they said I could send it back to them and get my money back. I responded by saying that I would like to return the book if they could send me a book that was totally readable (with respect to the darkness/lightness of the print) and they said that they couldn't guarantee it. Rather than lose possible clues about my ancestors, as well as a valuable resource, I kept the book. This company has a lot of good books that I would love to buy but it's a case of "once bitten, twice shy". I would love to hear if others have had more positive experiences with this company. Then I would be very tempted to try them again. Until I hear about some good reprints from this company, I'll stick to buying from Amazon and Barnes and Noble (where the titles I want usually fall under the catagory of "out of print" status). I don't want to be a negative part of this exchange but feel I should share my one-time experience with the company that's being talked about. Amy Robbins-Tjaden atjaden@mindspring.com

Thanks to those of you who posted messages or e-mailed information about this book. Since several others indicated interest, I'm passing along ordering information. The reprint of this 1878 book was done by Higginson Book Co. You can order it directly from them for $89.50 plus $6.75 shipping. Their website is http://www.higginsonbooks.com The order form says to allow 8 - 12 weeks for delivery. They have reprints of many county histories from all over the U.S. The book may also be ordered from Barnes and Noble at barnesandnoble.com Their website says the book is in stock. Cost is $92.50 plus $3.99 shipping with arrival in 3-6 business days. There are two other Livingston Co. history books listed - make sure to select the one by Higginson if you want the 1878 book. Gail Murphy gjmurphy@home.com

Hi, I don't think that we have a history of Cornell, but the Streator museum does have short histories of the churches in Cornell. These are from a 1950? newspaper. Do you know what religion/church that they belonged to? Joanie Johnson grace w gathman wrote: > I would like to see a copy of the history of Livingston Co. also. I have > relatives who lived near Streator. I think they worked in coal mines, as > they were from coal mining families in England. I would particularly like > to find a history of Cornell. The names are Stott and Hardy. Thanks, > Grace

I would like to see a copy of the history of Livingston Co. also. I have relatives who lived near Streator. I think they worked in coal mines, as they were from coal mining families in England. I would particularly like to find a history of Cornell. The names are Stott and Hardy. Thanks, Grace

THE HISTORY OF LIVINGSTON COUNTY, Containing a History of County, its Cities, Towns, etc... With biographies. Pub. by Wm. Le Baron, Jr. & Co. 896p. (Chicago:1878) 1994. $89.50 Is this the book you are looking for???? http://www.higginsonbooks.com/detoia.htm Check this website. I have not personally bought books thru this company but am thinking about it. Nancy Peter Scottsdale, Az -----Original Message----- From: Jim & Gail Murphy <gjmurphy@home.com> To: ILLIVING-L@rootsweb.com <ILLIVING-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, March 26, 2000 2:49 PM Subject: [ILLIVING] county history >I am interested in obtaining a copy of The History of Livingston County, Illinois published in 1878. Does anyone know if there is a reprint of this book? If so, how do I get a copy. My mother-in-law was a Zeigler born in Manville in 1906 and had many relatives who lived in Livingston Co. Thanks. > >Gail Murphy >gjmurphy@home.com > >

I am interested in obtaining a copy of The History of Livingston County, Illinois published in 1878. Does anyone know if there is a reprint of this book? If so, how do I get a copy. My mother-in-law was a Zeigler born in Manville in 1906 and had many relatives who lived in Livingston Co. Thanks. Gail Murphy gjmurphy@home.com

I also would be interested in getting a copy. My grandparents: Benjamin Reddington Gould and Maud Ritter Gould were from Long Point, as well as my Great Grandparents: Royal Rose Gould and Mary Louise Carlton/Benjamin Carlton and Laura Miller Eaton. Chocy Brown