John, Not rockin' your boat...buuuuuuut, the reason that I phrased it that way was because my husbands GG Grandfather - on EVERY census record - gave his place of employment as "Zinc Mine" as did all his male relatives... My Father in law also has a diary of sorts that has been passed down with references to all males of the family working in the zinc mines. I'm not disputing your assertion - however, it's obviously hard to break out of a certain mind set and phraseology (is that even a word? LOL) that has been around the family for so many years.. I acquiesce to you, John and thanks! Les

Hi- For the record, there are no Zinc Mines in La Salle. The Zinc Companies (M&H in La Salle, and Illinois Zinc in Peru) brought the ore in and smelted it in the plants there. Then they also had the Rolling Mills to make the Zinc Sheets. The companies were located in that area because there was ample coal to fire the furnaces. It was cheaper to import the zinc than to export the coal. Back in 1950 I worked in the Illinois Zinc Co. and my father in law worked at M & H. My great grandfather was killed in a mining accident at the M & H Coal mine in the late 1800's. John Derango San Diego Ca. derangos@juno.com On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:51:54 EST sooz2511@aol.com writes: > I believe you are refering to the Zinc mines in La Salle. A > recent > article about the restoration of the Hegler- Carus Mansion was in > the fall > Edward Heleler, who along with Frederick Matthiessen founded the > Zinc company , > there are very few of these in the world it was followed by a > article about > xmas time O f the eldest son 102 whom still lived there died. It > is a > haunteing looking victorian house I was there with my godmother > many years ago in > the 40's Her sister was married to Paul Carus,Built in 1874 it was > a scary > place to me at 7-8, but never fogotton, A freind from Marsellies > finally found > it for me but it was a grand place I remember well diners in the > dinning > room I believe the article came form the Ottowa Paper and was > witten byTammie > Sloup. I do not have the date, but I bet that there you will fine > the mines > Susan, Clover SC, born in Marseilles > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599 &targetid=5429 > >

Hello, I'm a new subscriber to the list and have been appreciative of the interesting sharing among the members. I am searching for information about my 2nd great grandparents. Zofia and Michal Ratajczak immigrated in 1881 from Posen, Prussia. They lived in LaSalle durin the 1880s and 1890s. Michal worked also at the Matthiessen and Hegeler Zinc Works; he is listed in the LaSalle 1886 directory. He died in Dec.1891 according to probate documents signed by his wife Zofia. I can find no record of his death in LaSalle. Zofia remarried Joseph Emmerling in 1894 and they are listed as living at Otter Creek in the 1900 census. By 1910, Joseph is a widower living with his daughter in Spring Valley. I am also looking for a record or obituary for Zofia Ratajczak Emmerling. Thank you. jacki rose

I believe you are refering to the Zinc mines in La Salle. A recent article about the restoration of the Hegler- Carus Mansion was in the fall Edward Heleler, who along with Frederick Matthiessen founded the Zinc company , there are very few of these in the world it was followed by a article about xmas time O f the eldest son 102 whom still lived there died. It is a haunteing looking victorian house I was there with my godmother many years ago in the 40's Her sister was married to Paul Carus,Built in 1874 it was a scary place to me at 7-8, but never fogotton, A freind from Marsellies finally found it for me but it was a grand place I remember well diners in the dinning room I believe the article came form the Ottowa Paper and was witten byTammie Sloup. I do not have the date, but I bet that there you will fine the mines Susan, Clover SC, born in Marseilles

Janet, Go here _http://www.niulib.niu.edu/reghist/RC%20167.htm#scope_ (http://www.niulib.niu.edu/reghist/RC%20167.htm#scope) Here: _http://model-rr.crispen.org/industries/index.php?sb=commodity&rv=y_ (http://model-rr.crispen.org/industries/index.php?sb=commodity&rv=y) Here: _http://www.isgs.uiuc.edu/servs/pubs/pdf-pubs/im117.pdf_ (http://www.isgs.uiuc.edu/servs/pubs/pdf-pubs/im117.pdf) and here is the superfund site - you have to scroll about 2/3 of the way down to see it on the table - it's table 1 - under National Priorities - LaSalle, Matthiessen and Hegele Zinc Mine. _http://www.epa.gov/superfund/sites/npl/f030929.htm_ (http://www.epa.gov/superfund/sites/npl/f030929.htm) Les

Sorry, this index is for the Streator paper. The Guild in Ottawa has the index for the Ottawa papers, and since Ottawa is the county seat, they covered a broader area. The Streator paper had Dwight, Cornell news. Sometimes someone from LaSalle would make our paper, if they had friends in Streator, or had lived in the Streator area at one time. Joanie -- Streatorland Historical Society 306 South Vermillion Street Streator, Illinois 61364 Monday - Friday 9:30 - 2:30 Sunday 1 - 4 p.m. > Joanie, > > Would it be possible to look up the name DREWITZ for any obits? I don't > know how far back the obit index goes, but this family lived in LaSalle, La > Salle County from 1880, until around 1920. They all worked in the Zinc mines > there. Incidentally, did you know that the site of the zinc mines was/is? a > Superfund project? Very interesting, as a lot of people working there died > relatively young suffering from different cancers... > > Thanks, > Les > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Where were the zinc mines located in LaSalle Co? Janet LIPS0160@aol.com wrote:Joanie, Would it be possible to look up the name DREWITZ for any obits? I don't know how far back the obit index goes, but this family lived in LaSalle, La Salle County from 1880, until around 1920. They all worked in the Zinc mines there. Incidentally, did you know that the site of the zinc mines was/is? a Superfund project? Very interesting, as a lot of people working there died relatively young suffering from different cancers... Thanks, Les ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'

Joanie, Would it be possible to look up the name DREWITZ for any obits? I don't know how far back the obit index goes, but this family lived in LaSalle, La Salle County from 1880, until around 1920. They all worked in the Zinc mines there. Incidentally, did you know that the site of the zinc mines was/is? a Superfund project? Very interesting, as a lot of people working there died relatively young suffering from different cancers... Thanks, Les

There is an obit for Robert Bell, aged 85, dated July 11, 1923 in the Daily Ind- Times, he was living in Dwight Joanie -- Streatorland Historical Society 306 South Vermillion Street Streator, Illinois 61364 Monday - Friday 9:30 - 2:30 Sunday 1 - 4 p.m. > Is it possible to obtain an obituary for Robert BELL, who died in Streator on > March 12, 1922? The death index also has another Robert BELL, who died in > Marseilles on Oct. 21, 1921. The one that I am looking for had a wife, Ann, and > children - Mary, Robert, William, Elisabeth, Jane, Thomas and Mathue. Robert > was born in England abt. 1839, so he would have been abt. 82 or 83 years old > when he died. > > Roger Cox > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

For a copy of obituary contact Streator Public Library, they will charge $1.00 for copy plus postage, etc. (notes from obit) ...from Streator Daily Free Press Monday March 13, 1922, page 04 Robert Bell Dies at Home of Daughter Yesterday Morning. Mrs. George Eddy at 205 Penn street born in England in 1838 came to US 59 years ago 48 of which were spent in this vicinity was united in marriage and his wife preceded him in death 16 years ago. Six children are left: Robert of Virden, William of Ottawa, Thomas and John of Virden, Mrs. John Hold? of Bellview, Ill., and Mrs. Geo. Eddy of Streator. one sister, Mrs. Frank Cox of Colorado was a mine examiner, lived with his dau. the past five years. body was shipped to Virden for burial. If he worked for the state, his job could have taken him to the southern coal fields, and perhaps that is why sons live there and he was buried there. -- Streatorland Historical Society 306 South Vermillion Street Streator, Illinois 61364 Monday - Friday 9:30 - 2:30 Sunday 1 - 4 p.m. > Is it possible to obtain an obituary for Robert BELL, who died in Streator on > March 12, 1922? The death index also has another Robert BELL, who died in > Marseilles on Oct. 21, 1921. The one that I am looking for had a wife, Ann, and > children - Mary, Robert, William, Elisabeth, Jane, Thomas and Mathue. Robert > was born in England abt. 1839, so he would have been abt. 82 or 83 years old > when he died. > > Roger Cox > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Good morning Tim, Thank you for the suggestion, I'll do that. Make the best of your day. Tony

Is it possible to obtain an obituary for Robert BELL, who died in Streator on March 12, 1922? The death index also has another Robert BELL, who died in Marseilles on Oct. 21, 1921. The one that I am looking for had a wife, Ann, and children - Mary, Robert, William, Elisabeth, Jane, Thomas and Mathue. Robert was born in England abt. 1839, so he would have been abt. 82 or 83 years old when he died. Roger Cox

Taking a wild shot in the dark probably with your Nolans but seeing their travel path from Peoria - Bloomington to LaSalle County would you let me know when you find their baptismal certificates who the sponsors were? I'd like to compare it against the relations I had down there and their sponsors. This seems to be a common path followed by several of the County Kerry families and we do have Nolan's in the tree - but I don't know of those that came to Illinois. Such a prolific bunch it certainly is quite possible. Margaret

Hi, Tony-- Just one further suggestion: You might subscribe to the Bond County listserve and pose your query there. I've done this while tracking down the movements of one branch of my family--they settled in Peoria County, then moved to McLean Cty, then to Livingston. With one post to the Peoria list, I got responses from folks both in Peoria and McLean. Good luck. The only way is up! Tim -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Dalke [mailto:riverbend@grics.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:16 AM To: ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILLASALLE] Nolans Good day Tim, I know next to nothing about my g-g-grandparents, all that I do know I have already stated. I went to the L.C.G.G. in Ottawa and searched through the obits & baptismal records for any and all Nolans. The obits were quite descriptive but gave no names of family members, so that was of no help. Since my g-grandfather was born in Peoria, I have the need to go there and search for birth cert. or announcement in the paper. In the 1880 fed. census for Il. there is a family, Mathias & Esther Nolan w/ 6 children, one is 3 yr old Michael w/ a 7yr old brother named Johnny. They resided in Ripley, Il. Bond Co.. I have corresponded w/ a g-granddaughter of Michael Joseph and she believes this family to be our ancestors. I need proof. I have several sources that say John Nolan is Michael Joseph's father & one that says Sarah is his mother. If John & Sarah are the middle names of Mathias & Esther, I need to find out. The 1920 Sarah would have been born about 1836, Esther about 1837. Since no family member knows of any siblings for Michael Joseph I am trying to find a name or two to possibly tie in w/ Mathias, Esther & family, or not. I too, have searched for Sarah Whalen/Nolan at Ellis Isle., SSDI and all that Ancestry.com has to offer. 1920 Sarah was the only one to stand out. The search goes on. Make the best of your day. Tony

Good day Tim, I know next to nothing about my g-g-grandparents, all that I do know I have already stated. I went to the L.C.G.G. in Ottawa and searched through the obits & baptismal records for any and all Nolans. The obits were quite descriptive but gave no names of family members, so that was of no help. Since my g-grandfather was born in Peoria, I have the need to go there and search for birth cert. or announcement in the paper. In the 1880 fed. census for Il. there is a family, Mathias & Esther Nolan w/ 6 children, one is 3 yr old Michael w/ a 7yr old brother named Johnny. They resided in Ripley, Il. Bond Co.. I have corresponded w/ a g-granddaughter of Michael Joseph and she believes this family to be our ancestors. I need proof. I have several sources that say John Nolan is Michael Joseph's father & one that says Sarah is his mother. If John & Sarah are the middle names of Mathias & Esther, I need to find out. The 1920 Sarah would have been born about 1836, Esther about 1837. Since no family member knows of any siblings for Michael Joseph I am trying to find a name or two to possibly tie in w/ Mathias, Esther & family, or not. I too, have searched for Sarah Whalen/Nolan at Ellis Isle., SSDI and all that Ancestry.com has to offer. 1920 Sarah was the only one to stand out. The search goes on. Make the best of your day. Tony

Hi, Tony-- I sincerely doubt that hospital records would be available for viewing. (I'd be happy to know if anyone knows otherwise.) I pursued a few standard avenues of research: 1. For starters, I looked to see the marriage of John and Sarah in the statewide marriage index, http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/marriage.html, and I couldn't find it. 2. If you search the 1916-1950 Illinois death index, http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/GenealogyMWeb/idphdeathsrch.html, you'll find several Sarah Nolans, but they are mostly in the Chicago area. This really doesn't signify much. Deaths were recorded in the county where the person died. Sarah could have been in another hospital in Cook County when she died. 3. When did your g-g-grandfather die? I found a John Nolan who died in Streator: NOLAN JOHN JR M/W UNK 4500247 1929-10-25 LA SALLE STREATOR I would *hazard* a guess that this fellow may be the offspring of Sarah Nolan, as Sarah was listed as a widow if I made out the census record correctly. There is probably an obituary for this John Nolan in the Streator newspaper, which is available on microfilm at the Streator library. Obits typically contain lots of information. If you can get your hands on any other names and death dates, pursue their obits. Good luck in your quest! Tim -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Dalke [mailto:riverbend@grics.net] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 3:09 PM To: ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILLASALLE] Nolan Hello Tim, to answer your question, no I don't. I am just begining my search for my gggrandmother. When I acquired my ggrandfather's death cert. I found that his mothers name was listed as unk., father is John Nolan. A new found 2nd cousin told me that John and Sarah Whalen Nolan both came from Dublin, Ire.. My ggrandfather, Michael Joseph was b. in Peoria, 1877. Something took him to Ottawa where he married Margaret McCarthy in 1901. Several of their children, my grandfather included,were born in Oglesby. There are ties to LaSalle Co.. The 1920 Sarah Nolan would have been about 41 yrs old in 1877, not an unheard of age to give birth I'm sure, also she is from Ire.. A place to start. "New" relatives that I have corresponded with as well as those in the area have no knowledge of siblings for Michael Joseph. The ultimate puzzle. I like it. So, now you know where I'm at. If they exist, would hospital records be accessible for viewing? Thank you for your interest. Tony

Hello Tim, to answer your question, no I don't. I am just begining my search for my gggrandmother. When I acquired my ggrandfather's death cert. I found that his mothers name was listed as unk., father is John Nolan. A new found 2nd cousin told me that John and Sarah Whalen Nolan both came from Dublin, Ire.. My ggrandfather, Michael Joseph was b. in Peoria, 1877. Something took him to Ottawa where he married Margaret McCarthy in 1901. Several of their children, my grandfather included,were born in Oglesby. There are ties to LaSalle Co.. The 1920 Sarah Nolan would have been about 41 yrs old in 1877, not an unheard of age to give birth I'm sure, also she is from Ire.. A place to start. "New" relatives that I have corresponded with as well as those in the area have no knowledge of siblings for Michael Joseph. The ultimate puzzle. I like it. So, now you know where I'm at. If they exist, would hospital records be accessible for viewing? Thank you for your interest. Tony

I have a volunteer "job" at church this morning. I will drop a copy off at the museum this afternoon. OK? Joanie -- Streatorland Historical Society 306 South Vermillion Street Streator, Illinois 61364 Monday - Friday 9:30 - 2:30 Sunday 1 - 4 p.m. > Joan, I'd like to get a copy of this information. > Annette Liptak > > bluejay201@mchsi.com wrote: > > >?Buried in Old St. Stephen's Cemetery. Is he really buried in Old St. > >Stephen's and who were his parents. Thanks. > >Joseph Liptak, son of Louis, > >born in Streator Jan. 15, 1895 and died from an accidental gunshot wound on > >Sept. 15, 1908. > > Some boys were playing with a rifle and while a Negery (Negray?) boy was > >handling it, the gun went off. > > I have the newspaper articles from the accident on Monday and the Tuesday > >obituary, if anyone is interested. > > > >Joanie > >-- > >Streatorland Historical Society > >306 South Vermillion Street > >Streator, Illinois 61364 > >Monday - Friday 9:30 - 2:30 > >Sunday 1 - 4 p.m. > > > > > >============================== > >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Hi, Tony-- Do you have any other information on Sarah? Is there something specific you want to know? This info would help others find info you don't already have. Best wishes, Tim -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Dalke [mailto:riverbend@grics.net] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 9:38 AM To: ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILLASALLE] Nolan I am searching for any info on Sarah Nolan. The 1920 federal census shows her as a patient at St. Mary's Hospital in Streator. Thank you for any assistance. Tony ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

To answer Gini's question - The John Sweetser family sent a Floral Remembrance at the time of my grandpa's death (Frank W. Nelson) - Dec. 16, 1955. They did not sign the Visitation book. Karen -----Original Message----- From: Gini G [mailto:ginig@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 10:26 AM To: ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILLASALLE] Vignery, Sweetser, Carr, Hiles in Streator I lived a few doors from a John Sweetser and I believe his sister Laura in the 1950's. I believe they were both retired by then. About all else I could supply would be their address at that time. I can't remember when they passed but I'm guessing the 1960's. Karen are they in your grandfather's funeral book? ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx