HQ does NOT have a serchable index for 1880 that is why you have to BROWSE. at familysearch you can get the name of town, page number so makes the search easier. Karen > what I do in searching the 1880 census is go to www.familysearch.com and > when I find the info of what page and such go to > Heritage Quest online and in the upper left hand corner click on browse and > You san find the real cenus page. > > Karen >

If you go to familysearch.org it allows you to view the original document. Also, if you go to ancestry home page, it says next to the 1880 U. S. Census Records & Images FREE Barb in Iowa ----- Original Message ----- From: <lwhgeneo@aol.com> To: <ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [ILLASALLE] Did you know > > In a message dated 4/3/2005 1:46:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > bdrummer@marshallnet.com writes: > > When finding someone you're looking for on the 1880 on > http://www.familysearch.org there is an option to view the original image > on > ancestry.com too and at no cost for ancestry subscription. Sometimes when > doing that you see more and catch things that you might not through the > transcribed information on familysearch. > Barb in Iowa > > > How do you search the Ancestry Census records without a subscription? I > have > been an Ancestry member for years. Has never been free to me. Linda in > Missouri > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 4/1/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 4/1/2005

bluejay, Question: Who is William Hayer's parent's 11 Jul 1900 1839 Woodland Civil War;61 Iowa Graves Registration Survey W P A Polk County Iowa and Who is Mina Hayer's parents10 Apr 1925 1886 Graceland Sioux City f; Laurel; N2248; 1;39 WPA Grave Registrations of Graceland Cemetery, Sioux City, Ia. I can't seem to find them in Family search or Rootsweb. Gwen ----- Original Message ----- From: <bluejay201@mchsi.com> To: <ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [ILLASALLE] RE: Hans Hayer and Wife > > Alvin N. Hayer 19 Jul 1934 28 Mar 1894 Rose Hill Lamini row 12; World War > veteran Grave Stone Records of Decatur County, Iowa > > Charles Hayer 1913 1861 Rose Hill Lamoni row 4 Grave Stone Records of > Decatur County, Iowa > > Christian F. Hayer 1928 1848 Rose Hill Lamoni row 12 Grave Stone Records of > Decatur County, Iowa > > Eli Hayer 20 Oct 1929 1854 Rose Hill Lamoni row 13 Grave Stone Records of > Decatur County, Iowa > > Ella L. Hayer 1935 1861 Rose Hill Lamoni row 19 Grave Stone Records of > Decatur County, Iowa > > Hans Hayer 17 Apr 1905 1822 Rose Hill Lamoni row 19 Grave Stone Records of > Decatur County, Iowa > > Ida May Hayer Rose Hill Lamoni (no dates); row 4 Grave Stone Records of > Decatur County, Iowa > > Margaret Jane Hayer 05 Feb 1938 Rose Hill Lamoni row 13 Grave Stone > Records of Decatur County, Iowa > > Oliver Hayer 1936 1852 Rose Hill Lamoni row 12 Grave Stone Records of > Decatur County, Iowa > > Sarah Hayer 19 Sep 1917 1831 Rose Hill Lamoni row 19 Grave Stone Records of > Decatur County, Iowa > > William Hayer 11 Jul 1900 1839 Woodland Civil War;61 Iowa Graves > Registration Survey W P A Polk County Iowa > > Mina Hayer 10 Apr 1925 1886 Graceland Sioux City f; Laurel; N2248; 1;39 WPA > Grave Registrations of Graceland Cemetery, Sioux City, Ia. > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Alvin N. Hayer 19 Jul 1934 28 Mar 1894 Rose Hill Lamini row 12; World War veteran Grave Stone Records of Decatur County, Iowa Charles Hayer 1913 1861 Rose Hill Lamoni row 4 Grave Stone Records of Decatur County, Iowa Christian F. Hayer 1928 1848 Rose Hill Lamoni row 12 Grave Stone Records of Decatur County, Iowa Eli Hayer 20 Oct 1929 1854 Rose Hill Lamoni row 13 Grave Stone Records of Decatur County, Iowa Ella L. Hayer 1935 1861 Rose Hill Lamoni row 19 Grave Stone Records of Decatur County, Iowa Hans Hayer 17 Apr 1905 1822 Rose Hill Lamoni row 19 Grave Stone Records of Decatur County, Iowa Ida May Hayer Rose Hill Lamoni (no dates); row 4 Grave Stone Records of Decatur County, Iowa Margaret Jane Hayer 05 Feb 1938 Rose Hill Lamoni row 13 Grave Stone Records of Decatur County, Iowa Oliver Hayer 1936 1852 Rose Hill Lamoni row 12 Grave Stone Records of Decatur County, Iowa Sarah Hayer 19 Sep 1917 1831 Rose Hill Lamoni row 19 Grave Stone Records of Decatur County, Iowa William Hayer 11 Jul 1900 1839 Woodland Civil War;61 Iowa Graves Registration Survey W P A Polk County Iowa Mina Hayer 10 Apr 1925 1886 Graceland Sioux City f; Laurel; N2248; 1;39 WPA Grave Registrations of Graceland Cemetery, Sioux City, Ia.

In a message dated 4/3/2005 1:46:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, bdrummer@marshallnet.com writes: When finding someone you're looking for on the 1880 on http://www.familysearch.org there is an option to view the original image on ancestry.com too and at no cost for ancestry subscription. Sometimes when doing that you see more and catch things that you might not through the transcribed information on familysearch. Barb in Iowa How do you search the Ancestry Census records without a subscription? I have been an Ancestry member for years. Has never been free to me. Linda in Missouri

what I do in searching the 1880 census is go to www.familysearch.com and when I find the info of what page and such go to Heritage Quest online and in the upper left hand corner click on browse and You san find the real cenus page. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Drummer" <bdrummer@marshallnet.com> To: <ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [ILLASALLE] Did you know > I see that the message about View original Image free (that's what I thought > it said at least) on familysearch now says for a fee at Ancestry, yet, If I > go to http://www.ancestry.com and click on 1880 FREE and put in bryant > Residence Iowa, county story, township grant it takes me to the 1880 for my > Bryant's, F. P. Bryant and Mary, > H. D. Bryant > Harriett Bryant > It does not allow me to view the image though. > So it allows you to use the index for the 1880 FREE. > I stand corrected. > Barb in Iowa

I concur. Tim -----Original Message----- From: lwhgeneo@aol.com [mailto:lwhgeneo@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 2:31 PM To: ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILLASALLE] Did you know In a message dated 4/3/2005 1:46:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, bdrummer@marshallnet.com writes: When finding someone you're looking for on the 1880 on http://www.familysearch.org there is an option to view the original image on ancestry.com too and at no cost for ancestry subscription. Sometimes when doing that you see more and catch things that you might not through the transcribed information on familysearch. Barb in Iowa How do you search the Ancestry Census records without a subscription? I have been an Ancestry member for years. Has never been free to me. Linda in Missouri ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

<<Marriages before 1877 only give the date, bride and grooms name and who married them. If they are under age a permission may be recorded. Jenan Jobst LaSalle County Genealogy I have marriage records for two siblings, one married in 1870 and the other in 1875, both in Bureau County. The 1870 record gives only the names of the persons getting married, the date, and the person who married them. The preprinted form also states that the groom was over 21 years of age and the bride over 18. I assume this to mean that these were the ages of consent in 1870. The 1875 record gives the grooms name, location where he lives, and his age. The same info is stated for the bride. In addition, the record indicates the date and place of marriage and who married them. The marriage affidavit printed on the reverse in my copy also includes the information indicating that the mother of the bride is consenting to the marriage of her daughter. This consent is hand written on the bottom of the form. The groom was 24 and the bride was 14. it would appear then, that some records in the couple years prior to 1877 contained more information than the earlier marriage records. Shelly

When finding someone you're looking for on the 1880 on http://www.familysearch.org there is an option to view the original image on ancestry.com too and at no cost for ancestry subscription. Sometimes when doing that you see more and catch things that you might not through the transcribed information on familysearch. Barb in Iowa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret & Randy" <mrcarmean@sbcglobal.net> To: <ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 11:35 AM Subject: [ILLASALLE] Did you know > Many libraries offer free access to Heritage Quest (census and history > books). > Those members who have Ottawa Illinois Reddicks Library Cards can access > this information from their homes. > First go to > http://www.reddicklibrary.org/ > Then choose databases under Reference. This brings up a new screen where > you can select Heritage Quest Online and enter your library card number. > You can search by name and location, etc in books (LaSalle County books > are > on there). Also the census records excluding 1850, 1880 (which is free on > the familysearch.org site anyway) and 1930 (which they are working on). > They do not offer the soundex option for census searches but if you can > narrow down the area you are searching you can use the advanced search > with > first name, age, place of birth, etc. to find who you are looking for. > Be sure to check your local library and see if this fantastic service is > available in your area! > Margaret > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 4/1/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 4/1/2005

Thank-you ever so much for the information. Greatly appreciate it. I also posted to the Decatur County, Iowa List. Figured most of them went to Decatur County, Iowa after I had sent the email to the LaSalle County site. Thanks again for helping me out. Gwen ----- Original Message ----- From: <bluejay201@mchsi.com> To: <ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [ILLASALLE] RE: Hans Hayer and Wife > > Alvin N. Hayer 19 Jul 1934 28 Mar 1894 Rose Hill Lamini row 12; World War > veteran Grave Stone Records of Decatur County, Iowa > > Charles Hayer 1913 1861 Rose Hill Lamoni row 4 Grave Stone Records of > Decatur County, Iowa > > Christian F. Hayer 1928 1848 Rose Hill Lamoni row 12 Grave Stone Records of > Decatur County, Iowa > > Eli Hayer 20 Oct 1929 1854 Rose Hill Lamoni row 13 Grave Stone Records of > Decatur County, Iowa > > Ella L. Hayer 1935 1861 Rose Hill Lamoni row 19 Grave Stone Records of > Decatur County, Iowa > > Hans Hayer 17 Apr 1905 1822 Rose Hill Lamoni row 19 Grave Stone Records of > Decatur County, Iowa > > Ida May Hayer Rose Hill Lamoni (no dates); row 4 Grave Stone Records of > Decatur County, Iowa > > Margaret Jane Hayer 05 Feb 1938 Rose Hill Lamoni row 13 Grave Stone > Records of Decatur County, Iowa > > Oliver Hayer 1936 1852 Rose Hill Lamoni row 12 Grave Stone Records of > Decatur County, Iowa > > Sarah Hayer 19 Sep 1917 1831 Rose Hill Lamoni row 19 Grave Stone Records of > Decatur County, Iowa > > William Hayer 11 Jul 1900 1839 Woodland Civil War;61 Iowa Graves > Registration Survey W P A Polk County Iowa > > Mina Hayer 10 Apr 1925 1886 Graceland Sioux City f; Laurel; N2248; 1;39 WPA > Grave Registrations of Graceland Cemetery, Sioux City, Ia. > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Many libraries offer free access to Heritage Quest (census and history books). Those members who have Ottawa Illinois Reddicks Library Cards can access this information from their homes. First go to http://www.reddicklibrary.org/ Then choose databases under Reference. This brings up a new screen where you can select Heritage Quest Online and enter your library card number. You can search by name and location, etc in books (LaSalle County books are on there). Also the census records excluding 1850, 1880 (which is free on the familysearch.org site anyway) and 1930 (which they are working on). They do not offer the soundex option for census searches but if you can narrow down the area you are searching you can use the advanced search with first name, age, place of birth, etc. to find who you are looking for. Be sure to check your local library and see if this fantastic service is available in your area! Margaret

Marriages before 1877 only give the date, bride and grooms name and who married them. If they are under age a permission may be recorded. The Genealogy Guild only charges a quarter for a copy. The church record may give parents names if you know what church they were married in. The Genealogy Guild has some of the records of the catholic churches and other churches in the county. Jenan Jobst LaSalle County Genealogy Guild ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cltiv8tr@aol.com> To: <ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 9:03 AM Subject: [ILLASALLE] Re: Cost of a Marriage Cert > > Bonnie - > > If someone replies to this question off-list, please post the answer here > for all to see. I've been searching to the answer to this question as well. I > believe we had a very large discussion about this on the Bureau County list > a number of years ago. > > I also have an ancestor who married young. When she married in 1885, she > was just 14 years old, but gave her age as 15 on the certificate. I believe > her maternal grandmother gave permission for her marriage, although the record > is somewhat unclear about that. Another relative married in 1874 at the age > of 14 with the permission granted by her mother (father was deceased). > Although these are decades after your 1858 marriage, it does appear that at this > time, marriages could take place at that age as long as the adult with > responsibility for their care, gave permission for the marriage to take place. > > Shelly > > Thanks Tim. > > What was Illinois legal age for marriage in 1858? One of the girls was only > fourteen when she was married (unheard of, at least in the bride's family) > but I suspect she married without parental permission. The groom, age 21 > was a farmer's son from Putnam Co. She was a farmer's daughter from LaSalle > Co. and they were married in Livingston Co. perhaps in order to hide the > marriage from her father. > > Bonnie > > > > > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Bonnie - If someone replies to this question off-list, please post the answer here for all to see. I've been searching to the answer to this question as well. I believe we had a very large discussion about this on the Bureau County list a number of years ago. I also have an ancestor who married young. When she married in 1885, she was just 14 years old, but gave her age as 15 on the certificate. I believe her maternal grandmother gave permission for her marriage, although the record is somewhat unclear about that. Another relative married in 1874 at the age of 14 with the permission granted by her mother (father was deceased). Although these are decades after your 1858 marriage, it does appear that at this time, marriages could take place at that age as long as the adult with responsibility for their care, gave permission for the marriage to take place. Shelly Thanks Tim. What was Illinois legal age for marriage in 1858? One of the girls was only fourteen when she was married (unheard of, at least in the bride's family) but I suspect she married without parental permission. The groom, age 21 was a farmer's son from Putnam Co. She was a farmer's daughter from LaSalle Co. and they were married in Livingston Co. perhaps in order to hide the marriage from her father. Bonnie

I am now seeking additional information on these family members. Obituaries, census information, spouses ect. If anyone can help me out it would greatly be appreciated. Hans is a brother to Andrew Hayers from my last post. Gwen Hans Larssen Hayer &; Sigrid Halvorsdatter (Elefson) ================================================================================ Husband: Hans Larssen Hayer ================================================================================ AKA: Born: 28 Jul 1822 - Norway Christened: Died: 17 Apr 1905 - Lamoni, Decatur Co, IA Buried: Father: Lars Anderssen Folseland (Hayer) (1784-1863) Mother: Anne Marie Olsen (1790-1843) Married: 17 Mar 1849 Place: Mission Twp, La Salle Co, IL ================================================================================ Wife: Sigrid (Sarah) Halvorsdatter (Elefson) ================================================================================ AKA: Born: 12 Jan 1831 - Gransherred, Telemark, Norway Christened: Died: 19 Sep 1917 - Lamoni, Decatur Co, IA Buried: ================================================================================ Children ================================================================================ 1 F Annie Hayer Born: 26 Nov 1850 - Miller Twp, La Salle Co, IL Christened: Died: 14 Aug 1852 - Miller Twp, La Salle Co, IL Buried: Spouse: Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 M Lorenzo Hayer Born: 14 Jul 1853 - La Salle Co, IL Christened: Died: 3 Nov 1927 - Lamoni, Decatur Co, IA Buried: Spouse: Bertha Ann Danielson (1861-1921) Marr. Date: 17 Mar 1881 - Earlville, La Salle, Illinois Spouse: Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 F Mary Ann Hayer Born: 1856 - Miller Twp, La Salle Co, IL Christened: Died: 1867 - Miller Twp, La Salle Co, IL Buried: Spouse: Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 F Julia Marie Hayer Born: 21 Jan 1859 - Miller Twp, La Salle Co, IL Christened: Died: 11 Jan 1931 - Independence, Jackson Co, MO Buried: Spouse: Martin Jacob Danielson (1857-1917) Marr. Date: 19 Feb 1880 - Miller, La Salle, Illinois Spouse: Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5 F Ellen Hayer Born: 11 Dec 1861 - Miller Twp, La Salle Co, IL Christened: Died: 6 Mar 1931 Buried: Spouse: Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6 F Sarah Ann Hayer Born: 1864 - Miller Twp, La Salle Co, IL Christened: Died: 1867 - Miller Twp, La Salle Co, IL Buried: Spouse: Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7 F Martha Hayer Born: 1866 - Miller Twp, La Salle Co, IL Christened: Died: 27 Jan 1866 - Miller Twp, La Salle Co, IL Buried: Spouse: Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8 F Sarah Ann Hayer Born: 10 Jul 1868 - Miller Twp, La Salle Co, IL Christened: Died: 31 Jan 1944 Buried: Spouse: William Edwards Hougas ( - ) Marr. Date: 29 Jan 1890 Spouse: Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9 F Carrie Malissa Hayer Born: 21 Sep 1871 - Miller Twp, La Salle Co, IL Christened: Died: 1961 Buried: Spouse: William Henry Sumption ( - ) Marr. Date: 2 Sep 1903 Spouse:

Thank-you very much for the obituary on Julia. Really appreciate it. Gwen ----- Original Message ----- From: <bluejay201@mchsi.com> To: <ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 9:07 PM Subject: [ILLASALLE] Re: [Mres. Julia Hayer > ...from Streator Daily Free Press > Feb. 12, 1904 > Mrs. Julia Hayer died at her home in Miller Township recently, aged 83 > years. She was born in Norway in 1821 and came to this country in 1842. In > 1845 she came to Illinois and was married to Mr. Hayer and then settled on the > farm where she died. She was the mother of ten children, eight of whom are > living. > > Julia Elefson(sp) and her husband Oliver Larsen Hayer, Sr. are buried in > Section Cemetery. > > -- > Streatorland Historical Society > 306 South Vermillion Street > Streator, Illinois 61364 > Monday - Friday 9:30 - 2:30 > Sunday 1 - 4 p.m. > > > > Must not of had any children. Andrew wasn't married to his first wife to > > long so they probably didn't have any children as well. Thanks for all you > > have done for me. Guess I can move onto the next child of Lars Andersen > > FOLSELAND (HAYER) and Anne Marie OLSEN. > > Please send me the obituary on Margaret if you would. > > Gwen > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <bluejay201@mchsi.com> > > To: <ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 4:05 PM > > Subject: Re: [ILLASALLE] RE: Andrew Larsson Hayer > > > > > > > > > > The 1900 census for Miller Twp. shows Ellen living with her sister Sophia > > > Danielson?. It also shows 0/0 children for Ellen. > > > Joanie > > > -- > > > Streatorland Historical Society > > > 306 South Vermillion Street > > > Streator, Illinois 61364 > > > Monday - Friday 9:30 - 2:30 > > > Sunday 1 - 4 p.m. > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Thanks Tim. What was Illinois legal age for marriage in 1858? One of the girls was only fourteen when she was married (unheard of, at least in the bride's family) but I suspect she married without parental permission. The groom, age 21 was a farmer's son from Putnam Co. She was a farmer's daughter from LaSalle Co. and they were married in Livingston Co. perhaps in order to hide the marriage from her father. Bonnie -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 4/1/2005

Bonnie, Boy, that's a good question. In my research of my g-g-aunts and -uncles in Livingston County, I found that one aunt whose husband I knew of was actually married to another guy at the age of 15 (I found this out when I obtained the guardianship papers for the minor siblings after their father died.) There was no record of that marriage (or I haven't been able to find it), and this was back in 1891. Sorry I could not be of further help. I hope someone else on the list can shed some light. I'm also interested in the legalities of cousins marrying cousins in the period of the mid to later 1800s. Tim -----Original Message----- From: Bonnie Ostler [mailto:lostler@intranet.ca] Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 7:49 AM To: ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILLASALLE] Cost of a Marriage Cert Thanks Tim. What was Illinois legal age for marriage in 1858? One of the girls was only fourteen when she was married (unheard of, at least in the bride's family) but I suspect she married without parental permission. The groom, age 21 was a farmer's son from Putnam Co. She was a farmer's daughter from LaSalle Co. and they were married in Livingston Co. perhaps in order to hide the marriage from her father. Bonnie

I would strongly suggest that instead of contacting the LaSalle County Clerk for a certified copy of the marriage license you contact the LaSalle County Genealogy Guild! I believe the county cost for a search (which entitles you to a copy IF found) is Fourteen Dollars. They will conduct a search a few years either way for the one document you requested and that is it! Now contacting the LaSalle County Genealogy Guild with a donation will net you not only the identical document minus the county seal - but if you request additional info. on the family - you'll find a treasure trove of information there. The year you are requesting will not include the marriage application so the info. will be very limited as to the bride, groom and witness names period usually. After 1877 the applications are with the marriage certificate. If the marriage took place in the Ottawa area there is a chance a write up in the local paper took place and the Guild has copied and indexed the marriage write ups for the Ottawa paper. The address to contact the Guild is found here: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illcgg/ A listing of the holdings of the Guild can be found at this page - along with an online searchable database of obituaries available and county probate records (click the links at the top of tihs page) http://www.lscgg.org/ Also certain church records are found there; the cemetery records have transcribed; census records; county history books have been indexed plus info. to other people researching the same family name are on file there too. HTH Margaret

Thanks for the info. Joannie.

Bonnie, In all likelihood, not much more than what you get from the listing on the state archive. Here's a quotation from Jenan Jobst of the LaSalle County Genealogy Guild on that subject: "Prior to 1877 the marriage licenses only give the name of the bride and groom, the date of the license and the date of the marriage and who married them. If one of them was under age there may be an additional piece of paper with the parents permission on it. After 1877 the licenses usually give a lot of information on them but sometimes they don't. The LaSalle county genealogy guild has copies of all these marriage licenses so don't pay $12 to the county to get a copy." (from the list, 7-23-04) I'd be curious to know whether there was a statewide edict that changed the law in 1877, and I'm guessing there was. Best wishes, Tim -----Original Message----- From: Bonnie Ostler [mailto:lostler@intranet.ca] Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 6:00 AM To: ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILLASALLE] Cost of a Marriage Cert The marriages that interest me took place in 1858 LaSalle County. What additional information might be gained from the marriage certificate for that year? Bonnie