If they were Polish, they were possibly members of St. Hyacinth's in LaSalle, the records of which were copied a couple years ago by Jean Wallace and some others, and indexed , I think, by Amy. There might be church records of a baptism or burial. These records are at the Guild. Twila Tootsie <thelmamarie55@earthlink.net> wrote: I was told by an IL county when I first began researching to be sure and ask about the delayed birth records. I got the impression if for some reason the parents didn't report the birth of their child due to distance or whatever when the county searched for you they wouldn't necessary check those records. Tootsie martha wrote: > Hello list. I sure could use some suggestions on this one. According to an aunt (she is now deceased) she claims that my gg grandparents had a child and this child died at the age of about 2. I have no birth date or death date but was she born within a 3 year span. I don't find her on IRAD either. The name that I was told was Marie Grajkowski (a), child of John and Mary Grajkowski. She was born between 1891 and 1894, I believe. The town of Peru is what my aunt noted. Any help in finding this child would be appreciated. > > And thank you Twila. > > ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Martha, The woman in Springfield is Molly - you can reach her at _www.mollx.com_ (http://www.mollx.com) - I believe that she is charging 3.50 - 4.00 now for death certs and you'll get it in a week. Genealogyangel

I was told by an IL county when I first began researching to be sure and ask about the delayed birth records. I got the impression if for some reason the parents didn't report the birth of their child due to distance or whatever when the county searched for you they wouldn't necessary check those records. Tootsie martha wrote: > Hello list. I sure could use some suggestions on this one. According to an aunt (she is now deceased) she claims that my gg grandparents had a child and this child died at the age of about 2. I have no birth date or death date but was she born within a 3 year span. I don't find her on IRAD either. The name that I was told was Marie Grajkowski (a), child of John and Mary Grajkowski. She was born between 1891 and 1894, I believe. The town of Peru is what my aunt noted. Any help in finding this child would be appreciated. > > And thank you Twila. > >

Hello list. I sure could use some suggestions on this one. According to an aunt (she is now deceased) she claims that my gg grandparents had a child and this child died at the age of about 2. I have no birth date or death date but was she born within a 3 year span. I don't find her on IRAD either. The name that I was told was Marie Grajkowski (a), child of John and Mary Grajkowski. She was born between 1891 and 1894, I believe. The town of Peru is what my aunt noted. Any help in finding this child would be appreciated. And thank you Twila. Martha S.

I am looking to order a marriage certificate for my g grandparents that were married in LaSalle. Where would I write to obtain a copy and is there a form that needs to be filled out? I found them listed on IRAD. Thank you. Martha S,

Give the info to the LaSalle Co Gen. Guild...email off their site. There is also a woman in Springfield who gives great service. I'll see if I have that email address. Either is reasonable. ($3-5 plus an SASE.) martha <restless13@foresitewireless.com> wrote: I am looking to order a marriage certificate for my g grandparents that were married in LaSalle. Where would I write to obtain a copy and is there a form that needs to be filled out? I found them listed on IRAD. Thank you. Martha S, ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Again, I plead with you all to include your surnames in your subject line; remember that many of us do not have time to read the dailies and only read the digest. I check the subject line and if it doesn't include info on my family, I never read it...I can't be alone here! Just putting "LaSalle" or "Help" or "Look Up" doesn't do it for me. Jo-Ann Seitzinger

Of course. Keeping fingers crossed. On Apr 26, 2005, at 7:43 AM, Tim Bryant wrote: > You're welcome, Jane. Let us know if something pans out. > > Tim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jane Bubier [mailto:drane@comcast.net] > Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 11:22 AM > To: ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILLASALLE] Mary Boss Will > > > Thank you so much for that. You sure are wonderfully prompt with > information. I'll write to the LaSalle Gsnealogical Society for list > in R.C. cemetery in Troy Grove. Perhaps the will solve the date of > death. Again . Many thanks. Jane Bubier > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

You're welcome, Jane. Let us know if something pans out. Tim -----Original Message----- From: Jane Bubier [mailto:drane@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 11:22 AM To: ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILLASALLE] Mary Boss Will Thank you so much for that. You sure are wonderfully prompt with information. I'll write to the LaSalle Gsnealogical Society for list in R.C. cemetery in Troy Grove. Perhaps the will solve the date of death. Again . Many thanks. Jane Bubier

Yes, please send whatever you have found for Abraham Brosius. My Brosius family did come from PA- landed at Philadelphia from Germany. Didn't know about the move to VA. if you want to just send the link, that would be great too, if it is easier for you. YOu really are an angel to do this for someone you have never met. Again thank you. Jane M. Bubier On Apr 24, 2005, at 8:30 PM, LIPS0160@aol.com wrote: > Jane, > > I took a look and found an Abraham Brosius/Brosus, who lived in Penn, > then > moved to Virginia with his wife and children. There are 6 pages. I > used > every name variation that I could think of (but if you know of any > different > spellings, please let me know). I even pulled up all the pensioners > files for > Pennsylvania and he was not there. Maybe you might have an idea of an > alternate state? If you can get any additional information, please > let me know and > I'll give it a go. I could still send you the file for Abraham, if > you like. > Let me know. > > If anyone else would like a lookup, I'd be happy to do so for them - > just > give a yell... > > Genealogyangel (Leslie) > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Jane, I took a look and found an Abraham Brosius/Brosus, who lived in Penn, then moved to Virginia with his wife and children. There are 6 pages. I used every name variation that I could think of (but if you know of any different spellings, please let me know). I even pulled up all the pensioners files for Pennsylvania and he was not there. Maybe you might have an idea of an alternate state? If you can get any additional information, please let me know and I'll give it a go. I could still send you the file for Abraham, if you like. Let me know. If anyone else would like a lookup, I'd be happy to do so for them - just give a yell... Genealogyangel (Leslie)

Would like to hear from anyone who might have any information on any Gaard's that emigrated from Norway. Hazel

I don't have Ancestry but that's Delos. He was postmaster of the LaSalle Post Office and died in 1906. His wife was Eliza. Delos was born in New York, Hi Cindy. Are you absolutely certain of the 1906 death of Delos? If so, do you have a theory regarding the following listing from the 1910 census? Delos Robinson Mission Twp, LaSalle County, Illinois T624_301, part 1, page 22B Robinson, Delos, head, male, white, 75 years old, married - 2 times, this marriage - 43 years, born NY, father - NY, mother - NY, occupation - own income. ------------, Eliza, wife, female, white, 72 years old, married - 2 times, this marriage - 43 years, 3 children born/1 currently living, born NY, father - NY, mother - NY Wortman, George, boarder, male, white, 77, single, Illinois, New York, New York, occupation - Mason & Bricklayer It should be noted that they are listed as family 106 along with a separate head of household: Nancy C. Jacobs, age 79, born Ohio, Virginia, Virginia and her daughter Winefred J., Winefred's husband and children. Looking backwards to the 1900, they are also in Mission Twp, although Delos is listed in the Ancestry index as "Delor" rather than Delos. The ages of Delos and Eliza match the 1910 listing (65 and 62) and Eliza's info states she had 3 children born and 1 living, which also matches the 1910 listing, as does the birth information for each of them. It appears that child is Bertha May, who is listed in their household. Also, if I'm reading the 1880 correctly, the George Wortman listed in the 1910 may also be related to the Robinson family. In the 1880 household, there is a Phebe Wortman, a 49 year old widow, listed as a Sister-in-law to the head of household (Delos Robinson). Just a few more things for you to consider. Shelly

Thank you so much for that. You sure are wonderfully prompt with information. I'll write to the LaSalle Gsnealogical Society for list in R.C. cemetery in Troy Grove. Perhaps the will solve the date of death. Again . Many thanks. Jane Bubier On Apr 24, 2005, at 12:03 PM, Tim Bryant wrote: > Hi, Jane-- > > I looked at the John and Mary household in Troy Grove in the 1870 > census. > It's odd that I couldn't get a direct hit on Mary or John--had to > search for > Jane. > > Neither Mary nor John BOSS is listed in the 1880 census in Illinois, > so they > either died or moved. > > If Mary died in LaSalle Cty her will would be on file at the > courthouse in > Ottawa. I went to the LaSalle Genealogy Guild, which has a searchable > Probates list (see http://www.lscgg.org/ and click on Probates at the > top), > and entered Boss and only one record came up for a Mr. BOSSERMAN. > There also > no obituaries for any Bosses on file at the Guild. > > I also did a statewide search on Boss in the pre-1916 death index and > found > some John Bosses, but none seemed to fit. (I do realize that LaSalle > Cty is > not included in this index.) > > Finally, neither John nor Mary Boss appear in *any* states in the > FamilySearch 1880 census records, thus it *is* likely they died (or > completely left the country) between 1870 and 1880. I would suggest > asking > the list for a search on folks buried in cemeteries near Troy Grove > township. These include CRANDALL, MEINHARDT, METHODIST EPISCOPAL, OLD > LUTHERAN AKA ZORN, ST. PETER AND PAUL, TROY GROVE CITY PARK MEMORIAL, > TROY > GROVE MEINHARDT AKA WELCH, WELCH AKA MEINHARDT, and ZORN AKA OLD > LUTHERAN, > plus a few "UNKNOWN" cemeteries in different sections. All these come > from > one of the Guild pages at http://www.lscgg.org/home/lscgg02c.html. > There is > an e-mail contact at the Guild's main page. > > Sorry, this was all I could determine for now. If something else comes > to > me, I'll send more. > > Tim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jane Bubier [mailto:drane@comcast.net] > Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 9:07 AM > To: ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILLASALLE] ROBINSON Delos and the 1890 Special Civil War > Pensioners > > > Dear Tim, I really need a will for Mary Riley (Reilly) Boss who is > listed in the 1870 LaSalle Co., IL census on page 727 line 37. She was > born in Ireland in ca 1812 and in 1870 was caring for a niece, Jane > Riley (on same census). Is it possible to locate her will? I know she > had one because in it she repaid her brother money he'd given her > husband. > Think husband, John Boss, also bn Ireland may have pre-deceased her, > but perhaps not. Don't know when she died. > I know this is a really awful job to ask anyone to do but the Jane > was lost to our family for a long time and I'm trying to fill the > holes for all my cousins. If you can find any clues about this > woman, Mary Boss, I'll be really grateful. Thank you for offering > to help. Jane Bubier > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

You're right his date of death was 27 Feb 1914. Cindy Cltiv8tr@aol.com wrote: I don't have Ancestry but that's Delos. He was postmaster of the LaSalle Post Office and died in 1906. His wife was Eliza. Delos was born in New York, Hi Cindy. Are you absolutely certain of the 1906 death of Delos? If so, do you have a theory regarding the following listing from the 1910 census? Delos Robinson Mission Twp, LaSalle County, Illinois T624_301, part 1, page 22B Robinson, Delos, head, male, white, 75 years old, married - 2 times, this marriage - 43 years, born NY, father - NY, mother - NY, occupation - own income. ------------, Eliza, wife, female, white, 72 years old, married - 2 times, this marriage - 43 years, 3 children born/1 currently living, born NY, father - NY, mother - NY Wortman, George, boarder, male, white, 77, single, Illinois, New York, New York, occupation - Mason & Bricklayer It should be noted that they are listed as family 106 along with a separate head of household: Nancy C. Jacobs, age 79, born Ohio, Virginia, Virginia and her daughter Winefred J., Winefred's husband and children. Looking backwards to the 1900, they are also in Mission Twp, although Delos is listed in the Ancestry index as "Delor" rather than Delos. The ages of Delos and Eliza match the 1910 listing (65 and 62) and Eliza's info states she had 3 children born and 1 living, which also matches the 1910 listing, as does the birth information for each of them. It appears that child is Bertha May, who is listed in their household. Also, if I'm reading the 1880 correctly, the George Wortman listed in the 1910 may also be related to the Robinson family. In the 1880 household, there is a Phebe Wortman, a 49 year old widow, listed as a Sister-in-law to the head of household (Delos Robinson). Just a few more things for you to consider. Shelly ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi, Jane-- I looked at the John and Mary household in Troy Grove in the 1870 census. It's odd that I couldn't get a direct hit on Mary or John--had to search for Jane. Neither Mary nor John BOSS is listed in the 1880 census in Illinois, so they either died or moved. If Mary died in LaSalle Cty her will would be on file at the courthouse in Ottawa. I went to the LaSalle Genealogy Guild, which has a searchable Probates list (see http://www.lscgg.org/ and click on Probates at the top), and entered Boss and only one record came up for a Mr. BOSSERMAN. There also no obituaries for any Bosses on file at the Guild. I also did a statewide search on Boss in the pre-1916 death index and found some John Bosses, but none seemed to fit. (I do realize that LaSalle Cty is not included in this index.) Finally, neither John nor Mary Boss appear in *any* states in the FamilySearch 1880 census records, thus it *is* likely they died (or completely left the country) between 1870 and 1880. I would suggest asking the list for a search on folks buried in cemeteries near Troy Grove township. These include CRANDALL, MEINHARDT, METHODIST EPISCOPAL, OLD LUTHERAN AKA ZORN, ST. PETER AND PAUL, TROY GROVE CITY PARK MEMORIAL, TROY GROVE MEINHARDT AKA WELCH, WELCH AKA MEINHARDT, and ZORN AKA OLD LUTHERAN, plus a few "UNKNOWN" cemeteries in different sections. All these come from one of the Guild pages at http://www.lscgg.org/home/lscgg02c.html. There is an e-mail contact at the Guild's main page. Sorry, this was all I could determine for now. If something else comes to me, I'll send more. Tim -----Original Message----- From: Jane Bubier [mailto:drane@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 9:07 AM To: ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILLASALLE] ROBINSON Delos and the 1890 Special Civil War Pensioners Dear Tim, I really need a will for Mary Riley (Reilly) Boss who is listed in the 1870 LaSalle Co., IL census on page 727 line 37. She was born in Ireland in ca 1812 and in 1870 was caring for a niece, Jane Riley (on same census). Is it possible to locate her will? I know she had one because in it she repaid her brother money he'd given her husband. Think husband, John Boss, also bn Ireland may have pre-deceased her, but perhaps not. Don't know when she died. I know this is a really awful job to ask anyone to do but the Jane was lost to our family for a long time and I'm trying to fill the holes for all my cousins. If you can find any clues about this woman, Mary Boss, I'll be really grateful. Thank you for offering to help. Jane Bubier

Dear Tim, I really need a will for Mary Riley (Reilly) Boss who is listed in the 1870 LaSalle Co., IL census on page 727 line 37. She was born in Ireland in ca 1812 and in 1870 was caring for a niece, Jane Riley (on same census). Is it possible to locate her will? I know she had one because in it she repaid her brother money he'd given her husband. Think husband, John Boss, also bn Ireland may have pre-deceased her, but perhaps not. Don't know when she died. I know this is a really awful job to ask anyone to do but the Jane was lost to our family for a long time and I'm trying to fill the holes for all my cousins. If you can find any clues about this woman, Mary Boss, I'll be really grateful. Thank you for offering to help. Jane Bubier On Apr 23, 2005, at 7:51 PM, Tim Bryant wrote: > Well, the thing is, I only had an interest in one fellow who is my > girlfriend's g-grandfather, so getting the muster rolls for him was > all I > needed. This guy was later written up extensively in the History of > Mercer > County and it gave a lot of great details of his Civil War experience. > > Jane, if you want to look something up for Cindy, go ahead and I'll do > what > I can to resolve your LaSalle County queries. > > Best wishes, > > Tim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cynthia Mac Suibhne [mailto:barkupthetree@yahoo.com] > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 4:59 PM > To: ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [ILLASALLE] ROBINSON Delos and the 1890 Special Civil War > Pensioners > > > I'd take Jane up on that on Tim. If you go through her she can tell > you how > many pages your vets pension file is but NARA won't. It's $17.00 just > for > the basics when it comes to Pension files and $37.00 complete...well > one > doesn't know what it contains so maybe something will be left out by > only > ordering the $17.00 one you know, and why spend $17.00 when for $20.00 > more > you get the complete file...unless of course the file is 5 pages > whether > it's $17 or $37. > I'm not complaining since I can't get to the archives and I have > ordered Rev > War Pension files on film through the FHC and spent a small fortune on > .25 > cent copies. Unfortunatley the Civil War Pension files aren't on film > through FHC. > I did locate the Ill. 1883 list of Civil War Pensioners for LaSalle and > Delos hasn't filed maybe he did later on. > Cindy > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Dear Leslie, you mean to say you will save me a trip to DC? I'm looking for the Rev War pension file for Jacob Brosius. He was born 1744 in PA and died 1833 also in PA. Thanks heaps. On Apr 23, 2005, at 11:23 PM, LIPS0160@aol.com wrote: > Jane, > > Now I'd like to interrupt... LOL .... Heritage now has the Rev Pension > files. If you give me the name of the person that you're looking for, > I can e > mail the whole file to you in a matter of hours! Let me know if you > want my > help. > > Leslie > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Tim and Cindy, Not unless you go there and view the file in person. The National Archives personel will not look it up just to tell you how many pages there are (unless you have a friend who works there and will do it on their lunch hour). They "do not have time" as "our staff is overloaded with requests" for file infomation. This was the shortened reply when asked if they could tell you how many pages were in a pension file before it was ordered. Bre ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Bryant" <tpbryant9@yahoo.com> To: <ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 2:49 PM Subject: RE: [ILLASALLE] ROBINSON Delos and the 1890 Special Civil War Pensioners > Cindy, > > I haven't done anything with the national archives myself. I wonder > whether > there's some way to see what the holdings consist of before you shell out > the dough--like a notation of how many pages are available. Thanks for > sharing your experience. The more discussion of the subject on the list, > the > more it will benefit people with like interests. > > Best wishes, > > Tim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cynthia Mac Suibhne [mailto:barkupthetree@yahoo.com] > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 2:16 PM > To: ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [ILLASALLE] ROBINSON Delos and the 1890 Special Civil War > Pensioners > > > Thanks again Tim, whether to pay $37.00 for the complete pension file is > the tricky part. I sent for one and it was only five pages not much for > $37.00. My vet served only a few months in one regiment before he must > have > been sent or joined another regiment. His records for some reason didn't > follow him and I haven't found the other troop he was with. But I have a > friend I do genealogy with and she has several files none under 50 pages > long. I was so jealous the day she came to me with a new binder and 100 > poly > sheets for one file. That's worth $37.00 because it was full of > information. > Her vet married two women during the war and it wasn't until he died and > both were widowed that they applied for their loving husband's pension > only > to find out there was another woman. Another one of hers was in Anderson > Prison and wounded and the file came with drawings of the location of his > wounds. That would be an extreme but something more lengthy then 5 pages > would be nice, for pensio! > n a vet > has to prove his place of birth, maybe testimony of another family member > as to where, place of marriage, children ect. anyway > Thanks for the muster roll site I'm going to request that. > Cindy > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Cindy, Sorry--this question slipped through the Net yesterday. Yes, I had forgotten about the fee for records requested by folks from out of state. I believe your reading is correct. Also, I was just dinking around on the National Archives site and found a link to the Civil War Soldiers and Sailors site at http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/index.html. Maybe you've already done this with Delos. I entered the details for him, and up pops his basic record and a summary of the regimental history. You can get all the regimental histories from the Illinois Civil War site, but you have to download a big file. At Soldiers and Sailors, you get just the regiment for the person you're looking for. In this case: "Organized at Pontiac and mustered in September 8, 1862. Moved to Louisville, Ky., September 22. . . . [movements and battles with links to details over the next three years, culminating with "Occupation of Raleigh April 14"]. Delos participated in Sherman's March to the Sea, and was mustered out at Washington, D.C, in June 8, 1865. It's interesting to see the unit was organized at Pontiac. That may account for the listing of Residence as Livingston County on his state record. Tim -----Original Message----- From: Cynthia Mac Suibhne [mailto:barkupthetree@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 5:46 PM To: ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILLASALLE] Costs of information One more thing and then I'll keep quiet about the cost of genealogical papers. Am I reading the Ill. State Archives correctly? Because I'm not a resident of Ill. the fee for 2 uncertified muster roll papers are $10.00? I'd be happy to send for them if I'm reading that correctly. For some reason I can't get into the site to order online but I can just send for them. Cindy