>The Fair Dealer Ottawa ILL Feb. 13, 1903- Mrs. Barbara Shaver Miller wife of >Joseph Miller died at 11 am Sunday at the family home, 730 east Pearl >Street, aged 78 years. Mrs. Miller was one of the oldest continuous >residence of LaSalle county, having lived here continuously since the early >days of the first pioneers. She is survived by her husband and one >daughter, Mrs. J. Debolt, living about two miles north of Ottawa. The >funeral was held on Tuesday. > >For further information or discussion please contact: sue@kaiconsulting.com

>OBITUARY; Mrs. Elizabeth Shaver one of the earliest pioneers of Illinois >passed from this life Wednesday afternoon July 16, 1902, at the home of her >daughter, Mrs. W. F. Slewder, of Ottawa. >Elizabeth Hackett Shaver was born in Wheeling, VA., Nov. 4th 1815, and died >at Ottawa, as noted above, having reached the advanced age of 86 years, 8 >months and 12 days. >At the age of two years she moved, with her parents, from Virginia to Mt. >Vernon, Ind., remaining there until 1834, when she came to LaSalle County, >and has since been a resident here. >On the 24th of October, 1835, she became the wife of Cyrus Shaver, a man >widely known for his sterling qualities, but of whom she was bereft Feb. >21st 1883. >She leaves to mourn her loss one son, George D., of Rutland township, and >three daughters, Mrs. W. F. Slewder and Mrs. J. Adams Wilson of Ottawa, and >Mrs. D. E. Fogarty, of Chicago. >Mrs. Shaver has been a confirmed invalid for many years, but has borne her >affliction with unfailing patience. She was a member of the M. E. Church >for over thirty-three years. >The funeral was held from the residence of W. F. Slewder, 702 Congress >Street, East Ottawa, this afternoon at 2 O'clock, Rev. E. E. McKay, of the >First M. E. Church officiating. Interment took place in the Shaver cemetery >in Rutland Township. > > >Please contact sue : sue@kaiconsulting.com , for further information or >discussion of the above. >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/il/ilfiles.htm

>SHAVER AND HOLTON TELL A SNAKE STORY: >While camping in the vicinity of the water tank south of the Illinois river, >Thursday, Vivian Shaver and George H. Holton, who were out for a few days >recreation, killed a rattlesnake 41 inches in length. The boys had been out >shooting at targets and were returning to the camp when they noticed the >rattler lying in the road. Shaver, who carried a 22 caliber rifle shot the >reptile, tearing off its head, and Holton, wanting to be sure the serpent >died filled him full of shot. It was found that the snake had 8 rattles and >a button. This is the first rattlesnake that has been killed near Ottawa for >a number of weeks, as they are very scarce in this part of the state. > > >Note: this article was from a LaSalle Co. Paper, from about 1905-1917, >somewhere in between those years, in 1905 Shaver would have been 10, and >after 1917 his family moved out of the LaSalle Co., area. Notice also the >reference to the scarcity of rattle snakes in the area. This clipping was >from my private collection and any questions or discussion should be >directed to: >sue@kaiconsulting.com > > > > >

> The Soundex was not done for military purposes, it was done when Social > Security was established to provide a possible base for claimants. The Allen County Public Library (ACPL) in Fort Wayne, IN (2nd Genealogy Library in the nation) will tell any patron that the reason for the 1880 soundex was so that the government could see households of children under the age of 10, info to be used in case of a military draft being needed. Curious to know - if it was used from 1894-1896 to whenever for the Spanish-American War. In my opion: It seems to me the handwriting on the 1880 census in some places corresponds with the soundex handwriting, as if some census taker filled out the soundex at the same time or at a later date before returning the info to the bureau or the supervisor. In other places, the handwriting at least looks like it was done in a similar handwriting style to that time period as opposed to 40-50 years later. Then the paper and ink would look different on the page, as wele as the age of the paper. The 1890 census was first being filmed in 1921 when the fire broke out; it's hard to say whether the 1880 should hopefully already have been completed or not---; hence no possible claim to be being soundexed for Social Security purposes unless the government had such forthought, which I doubt. Kay Diers Resident of Minnesota Former ACPL Library Page who often worked in Microtext with the Collection of film reels

The soundex was done as part of the WPA during the depression. They started with the 1880 census, it wasnt done then. Hope this answers some of your questions. Alice F

Cheryl -- I have Rachel & Sylvia Hall's account of the May 1832 murder of the settlers on Indian Creek in a text file, which I would be happy to send you (just email me personally; its pretty long to put on the list). Rachel & Sylvia were the two daughters who were kidnapped for about a week and a half and ransomed back from the Winnebago tribe (who were neutral) in southern Wisconsin. I'm descended from Rachel Hall. Sorry I can't help you out with Davis' parents. There is a monument in Freedom Twp. in a small park called Shabbona Park (in LaSalle Co. near Harding, IL) where the victims of the attack were buried in a mass grave. The incident was part of the Black Hawk War, and is mentioned in many history books on that topic. Depending on the book, you get very different views of the whole thing. Many of the accounts written in the 19th c. are published in different county history books (like in the various LaSalle Co. histories). Basically, a few local Pottawatomi Indians who had a grudge against Davis (one had been beaten by him for taking apart a dam that the settlers built which was hurting fishing at the Indian village) took advantage of the unrest going on and with a group of maurading Sauk & Fox Indians attacked the Indian Creek settlement. The Davis & Hall families had been warned twice by Shabbona (a friendly chief from the Pottawatomi village) but as nothing happened the first time, thought they would take their chances at defending themselves at their cabins. When the attack finally came, many of the men were out in the fields planting and a few of them were able to escape. The massacre fueled an absolute frenzy of fear in Ottawa and in settlements all over Illinois, and hundreds of ill-equipped volunteer militia were rapidly formed (you can read more about these groups in books on the Black Hawk war). Rachel & Sylvia became celebrities after their rescue, and the state of IL gave them some land. Rachel's husband supposedly read about this in a newspaper in IN and hurried over to marry her -- all the records seem to show she was only 15 at this point! Anyway, let me know if you (or anyone else) wants the text file mentioned above --Sandy Dunavan << I thought this would be of interest to someone besides me, William Davis is my gr.-gr.-gr.-grandfather. I am also interested in finding out more about this Indian attack and the names of Williams parents. >>

I thought this would be of interest to someone besides me, William Davis is my gr.-gr.-gr.-grandfather. I am also interested in finding out more about this Indian attack and the names of Williams parents. This excerpt was taken from " History of Carroll County, Illinois". Cheryl Latto William Davis born April 13, 1815 in W.V.,came to this state in 1824, to Vermillion Co., then to La Salle; lived on Indian Creek, six miles from Ottawa, in 1832, where his father was building a mill at the commencement of the Indian War; all of the neighbors had gone to Ottawa, expect the two families of Hall and Pettigrew, who where at his father's cabin when they were attacked by the Indians; his father, his mother, two brothers and two sisters were killed, together with Mr.. and Mrs.. Hall and one daughter; two daughters of Mr.. Hall were taken prisoners; Mr.. Davis and his brother Stephen escaped, William moved to Carroll Co, in Feb 1841.

Really!? The Social Security program began in the 1930's. Soundex goes back well before that. > Subject: Re: [ILLASALL-L] 1880 La Salle Co Census > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 07:36:25 -0800 > From: "Jean C Gobel" <jcgobel@email.msn.com> > To: ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com > > The Soundex was not done for military purposes, it was done when Social > Security was established to provide a possible base for claimants. >

Is any one on the list doing research on the Reavleys? If so please contact me. Thanks much, Barbara

Yes, the Soundex only included families with children 10 and under. But check anyway--I found my grandfather and his family on it with him listed as 9 when he actually was 11. Maybe an older sibling gave the info -- who knows. But I never would have found them three counties away from where they were supposed to be if not for the Soundex. The Soundex was not done for military purposes, it was done when Social Security was established to provide a possible base for claimants. -----Original Message----- From: Jude Richardson <lrich@sound.net> To: ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com <ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, November 06, 1998 4:07 AM Subject: Re: [ILLASALL-L] 1880 La Salle Co Census >Please note that the 1880 Soundex is not a complete index of the 1880 Census. >The Soundex included only households with children 10 & under. I've been told >the reason for this was for military draft purposes? > > >-- >Jude Richardson >Leavenworth County Kansas KSGenWeb Page Coordinator >Researching Courtney, Curtis, Hyde, King, Lindsey, Maxwell, Mulanax, > Pilcher, Slagle > >"Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste >good with ketchup!" > > > >==== ILLASALL Mailing List ==== > Search for your LaSalle County Surnames at: >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/surhelp-bin/surindx.pl?site=ILLASALL >

Jean C Gobel wrote: > The LaSalle County Genealogy Guild has published the first of two volumes of > the 1880 census of LaSalle County, with the second volume to be published > soon. It is indexed. They've also published the 1860 and 1870 census. > LaSalle County Genealogy Guild, 115 W. Glover Street, Ottawa, 61350, > (815)433-5261. The 1880 is also Soundexed and should be available at your > local LDS FHC or perhaps public library. > Please note that the 1880 Soundex is not a complete index of the 1880 Census. The Soundex included only households with children 10 & under. I've been told the reason for this was for military draft purposes? -- Jude Richardson Leavenworth County Kansas KSGenWeb Page Coordinator Researching Courtney, Curtis, Hyde, King, Lindsey, Maxwell, Mulanax, Pilcher, Slagle "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup!"

The LaSalle County Genealogy Guild has published the first of two volumes of the 1880 census of LaSalle County, with the second volume to be published soon. It is indexed. They've also published the 1860 and 1870 census. LaSalle County Genealogy Guild, 115 W. Glover Street, Ottawa, 61350, (815)433-5261. The 1880 is also Soundexed and should be available at your local LDS FHC or perhaps public library. -----Original Message----- From: Virginia Amorde <amorde@sonnet.com> To: ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com <ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, November 05, 1998 5:33 PM Subject: [ILLASALL-L] 1880 La Salle Co Census >Is there an 1880 La Salle Co Census? How can I access an index? I am >wanting to get a copy to document great grandparents: > > Dr. Francis and Anna Bry La Salle/La Salle/IL >

Is there an 1880 La Salle Co Census? How can I access an index? I am wanting to get a copy to document great grandparents: Dr. Francis and Anna Bry La Salle/La Salle/IL They may have been living with one of their children in Ottawa or Peru? Help! Many thanks, Virginia Amorde amorde@sonnet.com

Mary, I just click on the address. when you use netscape it comes up in blue and you don't have to retype it. This time it worked just fine. Thank you very much for your help. Ron Mary Couch wrote: > http://www.genealogy.org/~dpc/welcome1.html > > I can get it. Are you using the number "one" after > welcome and not the letter l? > Mary > > ==== ILLASALL Mailing List ==== > Search for your LaSalle County Surnames at: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/surhelp-bin/surindx.pl?site=ILLASALL

Mary, I have tried this site but it does not seem to be working. Can you confirm that the address is correct?? Thanks for the help. Ron Dillon Mary Couch wrote: > LaSalle County Genealogy Society: > http://www.genealogy.org.~dpc/welcome1.html > > ==== ILLASALL Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received when you > subscribed. Feel free to contact me, Carol Ryan-Spenader, list administrator, > with questions concerning this list! spenader@earthlink.net

http://www.genealogy.org/~dpc/welcome1.html I can get it. Are you using the number "one" after welcome and not the letter l? Mary

LaSalle County Genealogical Guild, 115 W. Glover, Ottawa Il 61350. -----Original Message----- From: Ron Dillon <dillonr@gate.net> To: ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com <ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 3:48 AM Subject: [ILLASALL-L] Historical Society >Does either LaSalle County or Marseilles have an historical or >genealogical society?? Would very much appreciate if someone could >provide me with the address, phone number and e-mail address. > >Thank you. > > >==== ILLASALL Mailing List ==== >*****Visit the LaSalle County Home Page!***** > http://www.rootsweb.com/~illasall/ >

Does either LaSalle County or Marseilles have an historical or genealogical society?? Would very much appreciate if someone could provide me with the address, phone number and e-mail address. Thank you.

LaSalle County Genealogy Society: http://www.genealogy.org.~dpc/welcome1.html

Can someone do a lookup for me , please? Looking for Warren Lawrence and his wife Lettie(y) (Waterman). They are believed to have been in Marseilles at the time of the 1850 Census. Thank you. Ron Dillon Coral Springs, FL dillonr@gate.net